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Blue Angel Vs Ipod

I was just curious about the sound quality of the Blue Angel. Many say that the Blue Angel's sound quality is very poor, when compared with Ipod. Please give your opinions and give suggetions to improve the sound quality of Blue Angel.

I am happy to listen mp3 on ba

BA can sound awesome. It is all in the headphones ou use. The vanilla headphones which come with it are average to good, but not great.
if you want GOOD sound, you have 3 options:
1) go to ebay and find an adapter to use headphones with standard plugs in the BA, as the BA has this special phone plug which is smaller. I have one of these adapters, it also comes with a button to initiate and terminate phone calls.
2) go to ebay and get yourself a blueclip, which is a bluetooth 'headset' without phones. you can plug whichever headphone (with a standard jack) you want in this one.
3) get a good stereo bluetooth headset.
1) and 2) are cheaper than 3), but require a wired headphone. The good on them is that you can choose a GOOD headphone (the ones which cost more than $10) to couple with the adapter. Depending on the headphone you choose, you might spend as much as in 3), but you will get the best possible sound going this way.

or do what i did and open up the inline controls/mic on the vanilla one, desolder the crap buds and solder on the buds from a decent set (i used some panasonic ones) amazing sound quality, beats any ipod/mp3 ive tried.

BA sounds great its a question of the sampling of the mp3

The sound of the BA is actually fairly decent (even without headphones). But I will agree with Midget and BrazilianJoe. The better your headset, the better the sound quality.

Thank You for Responses
Its very great idea to improve the Blue Angel's sound quality rather than going for Ipod. I'm on it thank you every one for your suggetions.

well, if you use the DSP ported from an ipaq, you can actually increase the bass and treble levels, which provides amazing sound even on the default pair of earphones
I have included it..just unzip it and use file explorer to put it somewhere(somewhere in the start menu)

I unzipped ur dsp and man the sound is awesome!! thanks Kamal.any more tweeks like this for enhancing the display?
thanks a million.
mukund

I think both the sound quality of them are poor. To improve the sound quality,you can buy a good headphone,such as Shure E2C or B&O A8,and download FLAC instead of MP3s.FLAC has a high quality,you can play it with PocketPlayer.
I prefer some MP3 players which have high sound quality or Hi-MD player to iPod.Like iAudio,iRiver and Kenwood,these brands' MP3 players have better sound quality.
BTW,you have to buy an adapter if you want to buy a good headphone.

i use pocket music(work like win amp).
but still use the dsp..
thanks

yinfo said:
I think both the sound quality of them are poor. To improve the sound quality,you can buy a good headphone,such as Shure E2C or B&O A8,and download FLAC instead of MP3s.FLAC has a high quality,you can play it with PocketPlayer.
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FLAC is a bit extreme; the amplifier in the phone blows goats and is very poor quality. Anything above mp3 160kbps is a waste on this phone IMHO. Most people cannot tell the difference between 160kbps on a blind sound test using decompressed tracks on CD. I can, but only on a decent system which the Blue Angel aint! ;-)
(iPod's sound is pretty poor as well however)

Thanks
Thank you kdskamal this works great!

By Far
The BA is by far a better choice vs the iPod.
Like the others have said, quality will depend on how the file was encoded and the hardware used to listen to the output.
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So far beyond what the ipod is: Phone, MP3 player, and PDA in one.

BA vs Ipod? why not make BA as your ipod
I agree from above statement that BA functions covers all the ipod function and in addition to that why not make your BA looks more like ipdod when playing your favorite mp3. I have attached a skin for the window media player to make it looks like ipod. just unzip it to the windows media player skin folder then change the skin at the skin choosr option.
I am not quite good in testing sound quality but I am using ordinary earphone on my BA. The origina earphones of my BA was already broken and the sound quality is drasticaly ugly. So I cut the wires, throw the ear piece and mic and just used its 2.5 mm male jack and attach it to a 3.5 mm female jack so I can use high quality ear phone made by Sony or any other good manufacturers.
I have tried buying those ready made adopter 2.5 mm to 3.5 mm jack for PDA's, it does'nt work for the BA. Because BA's configuration is similar with nokia phone. So if your planning to buy a ready made adopter so you can use your existing head sets try to get those nokia compatible.

apple should stick to software
fraser said:
FLAC is a bit extreme; the amplifier in the phone blows goats and is very poor quality. Anything above mp3 160kbps is a waste on this phone IMHO. Most people cannot tell the difference between 160kbps on a blind sound test using decompressed tracks on CD. I can, but only on a decent system which the Blue Angel aint! ;-)
(iPod's sound is pretty poor as well however)
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Macintels benchmark OS_X faster than true macs!
Apple is way over-priced everyone knows that, so much money for such entry level hardware. I think we all know Apple cuts corners just like M$.. who the heck would buy a $300 ipod just to listen to music or, when you can buy a great PPC/smartphone for less, that does everything besides go down on you!
If apple made a true ppc though i'd try it too bad they'd charge like $500 for something that resembles a bar of soap with a screen.
Steven ballmer said it best... "I, love, this...company!" haha
developers, developers, developers, developers!

let's not forget that ipod probably has Digital Right Management system in place, while TCMP on BA will piss on DRM and its owners.

starik said:
let's not forget that ipod probably has Digital Right Management system in place
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The correct term is "Digital Restrictions Management". It has nothing to do with your rights other than taking them away. Please encorage people to use the correct term instead of the double-think marketing lingo.

Kalonian said:
Thank you kdskamal this works great!
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Wow! Thanks everybody )

kdskamal said:
well, if you use the DSP ported from an ipaq, you can actually increase the bass and treble levels, which provides amazing sound even on the default pair of earphones
I have included it..just unzip it and use file explorer to put it somewhere(somewhere in the start menu)
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Have you another version? Doesn't work on hX4705 WM 6 rev 4

How do / Can I connect a USB DAC to the SGS?

I recently got a portable amplifier with USB DAC connection (iQube v2). Now, since there's no true audio line-out from the SGS, I was wondering if one can connect the SGS to the USB DAC for audio out instead.
Any info will be hugely appreciated! Thanks.

audio out? are you joking? wth do you think that audio jack is ).

As far as I know, the SGS has no digital audio out, only analogue, so theres no way to connect it to your DAC.
The analogue-out on the SGS is quite good btw, and so is the built-in dac so theres not much need for external dac either.

i have been using my pair of cx-300 for about 3 and a half years now and they are unbeatable at sound quality. if you want good soung, go look for some very good headphones.

You can always try and let us know what happens...
I have USB DAC, but I connect it to the PC, I dont use it on the road...

nonyhaha said:
i have been using my pair of cx-300 for about 3 and a half years now and they are unbeatable at sound quality. if you want good soung, go look for some very good headphones.
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Using SE535, before this it was SE530, TF10Pro, E4C.

nonyhaha said:
audio out? are you joking? wth do you think that audio jack is ).
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Audio out is not a true line-out.
What do you think LOD cables are for?

Chatbox said:
Using SE535, before this it was SE530, TF10Pro, E4C.
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Sennheiser IE8 here. Lets have an offtopic top-tier IEM party
Ontopic: I think with voodoo sound app, you can make your phones-out behave pretty much as a line-out, preampwise. Its still not a true line-out but for practical purposes that doesnt really matter.

The other issue that I'm having is jitter from the SGS.
Already using voodoo sound v7, from voodoo kernel 5.5.3. Voodoo Control with everything ticked except "mono downmix" (as recommended by supercurio). Every now and then, I still get a little jitter when I'm playing my music (FLAC mostly, and MP3 320kbps CBR).
At the moment, I use either a Cowon D2 or a MZ-RH1 as my source. The RH1 sounds better IMO, but discs can be an issue (not really that portable). The D2 is also great, but lacks a true line-out.
Guess I may be on the market for a decent source.

Chatbox said:
The other issue that I'm having is jitter from the SGS.
Already using voodoo sound v7, from voodoo kernel 5.5.3. Voodoo Control with everything ticked except "mono downmix" (as recommended by supercurio). Every now and then, I still get a little jitter when I'm playing my music (FLAC mostly, and MP3 320kbps CBR).
At the moment, I use either a Cowon D2 or a MZ-RH1 as my source. The RH1 sounds better IMO, but discs can be an issue (not really that portable). The D2 is also great, but lacks a true line-out.
Guess I may be on the market for a decent source.
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Sounds like youre maybe the type thats just never quite satisfied
I find the SGS with voodoo sound to be a quite capable portable source (compared to portable players in general but especially for a phone) that has no problems delivering into high end headphones. But sure, its always possible to find better and drag that along. Probably wrong forum for that though.

[Q] Beats audio sound quality question

I'm considering picking up this phone and I've seen quite a few claims that if you disabling Beats will "replace the beats profile with one that reduces audio quality" instead.
Anyone confirm/deny this? If it's true, does it make a large difference? Are there any ways (Custom ROM, kernel, etc..) that fixes this problem?
PLEASE NOTE: I do not want comments on how the beats audio sounds better than anything else - I want comments on if turning it OFF will degrade the sound quality as some people claim.

It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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bornotty said:
There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?

imho, it seems just making the volume louder, but cannot hear much difference... would anyone advise me if there is some kind of settings/ EQ etc? I can't find that... thanks

Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser, meaning that it adjusts to the audio input so that the output isn't distorted and sounds as good as it can on a software level, sure you can create sound like this with an EQ, but then you may have to create sound profiles for ever genre rather than just playing it, but for the record it creates better sound quality which is consistent with all music types that i've tried it with. (magic )
Bass is stronger, delivering a crisper yet softer bass as opposed to a punchy crackle which you'll find on other handsets, trebles are fair and i've heard much louder but in terms of actual clarity it's right up there with the best, mid levels are decent too, so if you want a treble sounding phone then this isn't for you, but for everything else and for the whole package this is where it's at.
I'm referring to the sound that the phone itself delivers, if you were to couple this with a decent set of headphones (i got a pair of solo beats for free with my phone from carphone warehouse, i think they've sold out now) the sound is phenomenal, for picking up and playing a song it is second to none, not the galaxy s4 nor any of the other top of the range handsets can compare to it, the reason for this is because HTC has obviously done it's homework for the audio part of the system and used it as a major selling point.
I'm by no means a music enthusiast but i love them and several of my friends who are music enthusiasts (some producers and DJ's) have said that the sound is superb, obviously not as good as a studio but lets not forget that this is a phone that we're talking about here and for what it is it won't be beaten.

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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser
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Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
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Bass is stronger
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That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?

Timmyfoxeh said:
Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?
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Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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dladz said:
Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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None of these replies have answered my question about it though. so let me rephase:
I've seen several reviews claim that this phone use 2 different profiles for Beats audio;
1. The ON profile which activates the "enhancement"
2. The OFF profile which, rather than just deactivating beats audio, will reduce the sound quality below that of what the DAC is capable of.
Now may I have any comments relevant to this question (rather than just saying the sound quality of this phone is good or bad).
Also, not all stores here allow you to try out the phones like so unfortunately.
EDIT: Thanks to the LinusTechTips forum I found this video which pretty much explains what I've been saying: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdbn_pmxFic

Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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I think it's much clearer, and s bit louder. But clearer. I used to have an HTC sensation, where in the middle of your video or music you had a toggle to turn off Beats. And trust me, there is a difference. I even record university lectures on it, and beats tunes out the background noise and boosts that of the speaker. It does wonders . But you can always get the phone and turn off Beats and download an equalizer from the pay store.
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We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones. The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
3. Turning off beats does not seem to activate an "intentionally low quality profile." That wouldn't make any sense, it's just a tweaked equalizer...
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Xerro-Five said:
We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones (you mention in passing a pair of sens). The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
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Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.

Timmyfoxeh said:
Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.
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Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Xerro-Five said:
Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.

Timmyfoxeh said:
Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Sorry meant galaxy nexus

Favorite music players?

I've been out of the loop for a long time. The last music player I used has seemingly been abandoned (Mort Player), so I'm curious about what everyone uses (and why).
I'd love something with decent widget support (something with cover artwork). All (or at least the vast majority) of my albums have a folder.jpg.
flac fupport would be HUGE, but I don't know of many that support it (Neutron does, I think). EQ would be helpful. m4b (audiobook) support would be awesome, but that will probably need to be a separate player, plus I have an old iPhone that I use in my car for audiobooks.
I guess this is a combination post. Looking for what people use, as well as recommendations for me.

Poweramp
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Poweramp
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That's one I'm considering. That or Neutron are leading the pack in my mind.

google search "android music app" and there are a ton of threads, but IMO neutron player has by far the best sound quality. I tried a lot of apps and even though it doesn't have the best interface you can without a doubt hear the difference in sound when using Neutron over any other player. Sure, I guess poweramp or any other player could use eq settings to sound better but neutron doesn't need anything.

Poweramp will be the bone pretty much everyone goes with.

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google search "android music app" and there are a ton of threads, but IMO neutron player has by far the best sound quality. I tried a lot of apps and even though it doesn't have the best interface you can without a doubt hear the difference in sound when using Neutron over any other player. Sure, I guess poweramp or any other player could use eq settings to sound better but neutron doesn't need anything.
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That's what I remember of Neutron when it first came out. I admit I'm curious to hear music from my phone through my good cans through multiple music players.
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Poweramp will be the bone pretty much everyone goes with.
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That or Neutron. Neutron gets a lot of recommendations, even though it doesn't have the pretty interface that Poweramp does.

+1 Neutron

Poweramp is the best right there. Been using it since 2k11.
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Eleven. Or the dark version. Google it.

If you're looking for something different, check out N7 player

Not to break with the pack but I'm using Gone mad music player. It's paid but has a great eq and processor. It supports crossfading and gap less playback.
For me it's been fantastic.
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I'm using Sony Music now. It's so nice to use compared to other apps.
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Long time poweramp. Since a few month Shuttle

for me it's Poweramp. since i have a Macbook and use iTunes as my primary player, i have to use Apple Lossless (alac) instead of flac. Poweramp seems to be one of the only players to support this format. if you're using regular flac files, Shuttle (better visuals) or GoneMAD (more customization) should do the trick since they use the same audio engine that supports lossless.

ffchampmt said:
Not to break with the pack but I'm using Gone mad music player. It's paid but has a great eq and processor. It supports crossfading and gap less playback.
For me it's been fantastic.
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I looked up this one since you mentioned it and found out that I have already purchased the full version...
I'll install the trial on my Nexus and see how it sounds through my DT770s. I'd desperately love for one of these players to sound good enough with them that I don't have to bring my headphone amp with me when I travel. So far, Poweramp is sounding the best through those headphones to me. Not as full as with the amp, but better than my stock iPhone for sure.
The fact that it supports m4b is icing on the cake.

liquidzoo said:
I looked up this one since you mentioned it and found out that I have already purchased the full version...
I'll install the trial on my Nexus and see how it sounds through my DT770s. I'd desperately love for one of these players to sound good enough with them that I don't have to bring my headphone amp with me when I travel. So far, Poweramp is sounding the best through those headphones to me. Not as full as with the amp, but better than my stock iPhone for sure.
The fact that it supports m4b is icing on the cake.
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Have you tried viper4android yet? It requires root but is a great amp and even has custom headphone profiles that are adjusted for a wide selection of headphones for different manufacturers. I have Sennheiser Momentums and it makes the music sound amazing.
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ffchampmt said:
Have you tried viper4android yet? It requires root but is a great amp and even has custom headphone profiles that are adjusted for a wide selection of headphones for different manufacturers. I have Sennheiser Momentums and it makes the music sound amazing.
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Looked at it, but since I'm rooted stock I wasn't sure if it would work.
I have to say that of the 4 that I've tried (Play Music, Neutron, Poweramp, and Gone Mad (the latter 3 all trials)), GMMP has so far yeilded the closest sound to my desktop rig using the same headphones, albeit not as loud or with quite the note separation.
I would have sworn that Neutron would do that.
The headphones I have really do need an amp to help bring out the full potential, but I'm pretty impressed with how everything sounds out of the N6. Better than out of my old iPhone without an amp.

liquidzoo said:
Looked at it, but since I'm rooted stock I wasn't sure if it would work.
I have to say that of the 4 that I've tried (Play Music, Neutron, Poweramp, and Gone Mad (the latter 3 all trials)), GMMP has so far yeilded the closest sound to my desktop rig using the same headphones, albeit not as loud or with quite the note separation.
I would have sworn that Neutron would do that.
The headphones I have really do need an amp to help bring out the full potential, but I'm pretty impressed with how everything sounds out of the N6. Better than out of my old iPhone without an amp.
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Stock rooted w/custom recovery? If so it's really just a matter of flashing a zip and opening the app, installing a driver, and reboot. (edit) You also have to flash a permissive zip for SElinux.
There are configurations for headset, phone speaker, Bluetooth, and aux output.
On the gmmp , I've really enjoyed it tbh. I pay for apps rarely but I've been happy with this purchase. My only issue is it not sending album art to my car stereo very well but otherwise worth it.
Sent from my Nexus 6

ffchampmt said:
Stock rooted w/custom recovery? If so it's really just a matter of flashing a zip and opening the app, installing a driver, and reboot. (edit) You also have to flash a permissive zip for SElinux.
There are configurations for headset, phone speaker, Bluetooth, and aux output.
On the gmmp , I've really enjoyed it tbh. I pay for apps rarely but I've been happy with this purchase. My only issue is it not sending album art to my car stereo very well but otherwise worth it.
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Good to know. I didn't know if it would work with the stock kernel (yes I have TWRP installed).
I will have to give it a try. I plugged my E6 into my phone and headphones and was very impressed. I gave up on the E6 shortly after getting a proper headphone amp/dac, but the sound was the closest yet to my desktop rig which is a huge plus to me.
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I like Rocket Player. The free version has a 5-band equalizer and the premium version a 10-band one, so you can get a lot of the functionality of Viper4Android there.

USB type C headphones

Hi All,
Did anyone use USB type C headphone with the 5T? I have just bought a pair of xiaomi ANC headphones and is really disappointed with the sound quality.
Are there any ways to improve the sound quality you might be aware of?
Thanks!

olzhas06 said:
Hi All,
Did anyone use USB type C headphone with the 5T? I have just bought a pair of xiaomi ANC headphones and is really disappointed with the sound quality.
Are there any ways to improve the sound quality you might be aware of?
Thanks!
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Poweramp + Arise. Makes my $20 KZs sound like a subwoofer.

ALPHAWolf96 said:
Poweramp + Arise. Makes my $20 KZs sound like a subwoofer.
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what is arise? I listen to Spotify, so poweramp is not an option l.

olzhas06 said:
what is arise? I listen to Spotify, so poweramp is not an option l.
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I use Spotify all the time also but to experience to true potential of your headphones, you must try Poweramp once ( you might get hooked as well) just for the sake of its unmatched Eq presets.
As for the arise, you can look up for the guides to install Viper4Android on XDA ( will take a simple search). You'll be needing root access (Magisk has some v4a modules as well) though.
Caution: stepping into the world of v4a is big step. No coming back from there.?

ALPHAWolf96 said:
I use Spotify all the time also but to experience to true potential of your headphones, you must try Poweramp once ( you might get hooked as well) just for the sake of its unmatched Eq presets.
As for the arise, you can look up for the guides to install Viper4Android on XDA ( will take a simple search). You'll be needing root access (Magisk has some v4a modules as well) though.
Caution: stepping into the world of v4a is big step. No coming back from there.?
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Just wondering what Poweramp and Arise does to improve the SQ of the above mentioned IEM. I own a Xiaomi Pro HD and found the bass and vocals to be lacking compared to Apple Earpods.

ejsoliveros said:
Just wondering what Poweramp and Arise does to improve the SQ of the above mentioned IEM. I own a Xiaomi Pro HD and found the bass and vocals to be lacking compared to Apple Earpods.
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If you can experiment enough with Poweramp's (alpha build) Eq presets ( I prefer "speaker ( loud) with bass and treble variable according to the song I'm listening to), you can pretty much get satisfied with any earphones above $10 price tag. The cheapest iem I can find in my drawer from a whole bunch of earbuds is the KZ-ate which can easily outperform this Overpriced AKG earbuds.
Coming to the V4A, it takes some time to get it working on your smartphone if you're dealing with it for the first time but if you can get it running, you can expect a SQ bump of at least 5x of Poweramp's eq.
Judging by the quality of one of my own xiaomi's basic earbuds, I hope the pro HD ones won't be really bad.

Is it safe to assume USB C headphones will work on the OP5T regardless of OS/ROM? I don't want to purchase a pair only to find out they won't work with OmniROM.

ALPHAWolf96 said:
Caution: stepping into the world of v4a is big step. No coming back from there.
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Truer words have never been spoken. Once I experienced the awesomeness that is V4A I'll never again purchase a phone that cannot be rooted. I only wish I would have found out about it sooner:laugh:
If you are running magisk it takes no time at all to get it processing for YouTube, Pandora, etc., just install the module and reboot. If you are use Poweramp be sure to go-to settings>audio>advanced tweaks and uncheck direct volume control to get viper processing.