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I know, Kaizer packs more in, but i hate 3G due to battery drainage and am happy with Edge. The Apple is way cooler no doubt, but no gps and the keyboard sucks?
tough call...
Your poll is gonna be a bit biased hah
Iphone lacks 3rd party support
can't swap battery
no keyboard
not subsidised
premier discounts voided
just a few reasons I can think of at the moment.
Also many ppl who *would* have an 4/8 gig Iphone have a 20-80gig Ipod already, so theres little advantage to getting it other than its kinda cool.
Don't know what you think your poll is going to show other than Teens will vote for ipone and Business folk will go for the Kaiser....
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I vote for iphone.
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Definitely Kaiser! Can't wait for it to hit the shelves!
Well considering the only thing you say you don't like about the Kaiser is the 3G then i'd suggest you run with the Kaiser as you can choose which network to be connected to on-the-fly.
iPhone really is the most overhyped phone to ever be released.
i'd go for the kaiser out of the two because i like the keyboard, and i'm not really a fan of apple products - and i think having a phone with a non user replaceable battery is lunacy!
what about the new se p1i? i used to really like sony's but went for the tytn as i couldn't be arsed to wait any longer for the p990...
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Don't know what you think your poll is going to show other than Teens will vote for ipone and Business folk will go for the Kaiser....
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hahaha im a teen but even i know the kaiser is better. im not gonna be tricked by apple. ppcs are way better.
so far only 3 votes on the iphone lol
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/iphone-name-en.shtml
after reading that, i think you will have only 1 choice... i was really shocked of course i had my bias, but i didnt know it was that bad and that limited
EDGE???
Show me the place in UK where it works???
AFAIK there's no EDGE on nay of UK networks...
Im pretty sure Orange supports EDGE.
It all depends on what you are doing.
I have used the iPhone (my brother's) and I must say that is is pretty slick and rock-solid in terms of connectivity - albeit slow connectivity relative to 3G.
IMHO - if you need something that is half-baked iPod, half-baked iPhoto plus a phone with pretty bad audio, but WAY COOL looking - you get an iPhone. Of course, you cannot mind being tethered to the mother ship.
Now, if you are mobile, need email, want to download RSS feeds, video and audio podcasts and need all of the connectivity options to handle scenarios ranging from client office wireless networks to airports to taxicabs and your own office Plus you want some music and photos of your kids (or car or babe), you get a Kaiser.
Now if either of them had that 1.2 million color screen of the N95 we would be talking some serious beauty!
Personally, I will be camping - pre-iPhone style in front of my ATT store on September 3 for a Kaiser!
Umm, no offense to anyone but it seems to me that when one considers phone purchase of this kind, the iCrap and the Kaiser cannot be in the same category.
Its not a tough call... the Iphone is a piece of **** for people that don't have a hard demand on their phone. If you are a power user get a Kaiser.
if you want features besides an mp3 player and a picture viewer like every phone out there has, get the kaiser.
It is as comparing Apples with Pears (Tytn II) ;o))
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If you were true to htc and windows mobile you would stick with the kaiser, iphone even thou its got its nufty features like that zoomng in and the keyboard (which on our windows mobile you can now simulate) its still buggy even after the updates at least with kaiser you know its got windows mobile 6 plus u get full keyboard and the tilt and brilliant for the gps even thou the battery would drain faster who cares go on ebay get a higher capacity battery and in car charger then get a extra battery while your there and a exturnal battery charger thats what i did for the Htc Universal (which sadly broke grr that usb port breaking and then gettting stuck in bootloader mode)
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Oh dear. No-one should stick to a product just because of the company that makes it.
The iPhone is a good bit of kit. Sure, it's got its flaws (no 3G, no custom ringtones) but for the average person that wants to trade in their iPod and Nokia for a single device, it'll do the job.
Most people are here because they use Pocket PC phones. The iPhone can't compete with them (however much it pretends it can). It's locked down, it's got limited email options and frankly, we're used to being able to customise our devices up the wazoo.
If Apple made a decent phone and HTC came out with a turkey, staying with them through loyalty would be foolish to the extreme.
You may show loyalty to a company, but at the end of the day, they're only interested in profits, and they will not reciprocate.
This poll is bound to be biased...
I mean, this is a WM developers forum. After the amount of work we put into the PPCs, most other phones(including the iPhone) look slightly,er, stupid?
On the other hand, I do wish HTC gave us 3in VGA screens. Come on HTC!, Arima does it.
Kaiser all the way.
What can the Iphone do that a Kaiser wont be able to do once the geniuses here at XDA-developers have a a tweak with the ROM. Isn't it only a matter of time before someone comes out with an implementation of the pinch/squeeze-zoom for photos afaik this is the only feature WM devices can't currently match.
There have been many many complaints about the drivers and software for the HTC Kaiser. In particular the bluetooth problems are VERY widespread and about 90% of bluetooth devices work poorly or not at all. The only way to fix this problem is to force HTC in the corner and put pressure on them to release a new ROM.
If you are experiencing problems PLEASE CALL 866-449-8358 for USA
or visit http://www.htc.com/support/care_hotline.htm to find the call center near you. We need to surge their call volume to the point where they escalate these issues to emergency status. The more people that call the quicker a fix will be released.
Also you can call ATT tech support in USA at 1-800-331-0500 and complain to them also. If ATT puts pressure on HTC by limiting sales due to high support costs, HTC will have a huge loss in the USA market.
When you are speaking to a representative ask them the volume of calls they have recieved for your particular issue and post that number here to help intice more people to call.
We have to take matters into our own hands otherwise there will not be fixes for this phone, and HTC will just concentrate on fixing these problems on their new phones currently in development.
I hope the admin for this makes this thread Sticky, because I know for a fact that HTC checks this forum to gauge user satisfaction.
I am not pissed off. Given the amount of features supported, there are bound to be some issues. How is this any different than the new gen of iPods not working with some older accessories? A petition has been started to adddress video drivers. I think this is a good practical step towards a resolution.
In particular, if looking at AT&T, they sell and support tens of different models of handsets, so why would they get all up in arms about a handful of Tilt owners calling.
As far as BT goes, I have not yet tried anything but some BT stereo headsets (3 different models) and they have all worked fine, as does my BT link in my Acura. At the cost of BT headsets these days, I would just find one that works well and buy it.
And in support of HTC, they have produced quite a few additional apps that work quite well such as the home screen, audio manager, photo viewer, comm manager, touch flo (albeit it works much better on the Elf for which is was meant), etc. In many cases, the software is finger friendly and works well.
I think the Tilt is the best device HTC's ever released to date. Sure it's got problems, but I trust HTC to iron them out.
Having accelerated graphics drivers would rock.
I agree, too many easily solved issues with this phone. HTC needs to support this device.
I'm not pissed off at HTC, I'm slightly disgruntled about the video acceleration but I've signed the petition and I have faith that they'll deal with it.
If you look at windows mobile devices in general HTC are the top dog (IMHO), the bigger problem than a couple of little niggling driver issues on a fairly new product is I would say Windows Mobile itself. I wish I knew what was going through their head when they designed it as its usable but nothing special. All credit to HTC for their apps, and more so to some of the fantastic people on here who have created wonderfully usable applications in their free time which improve so much on what MS pay people to do.
All that said I do hope the video issues will be dealt with before too long!
Not really.
I think HTC is one of the best. Every new generation hardware has some issues. I'm sure they are going to release updates to fix the problems. Starting a petition to jump start that process is a good idea.
Honestly...HTC software quality is way better compared to devices from other manufactuers like E-Ten (ugh...), Asus, Gigabyte....even Toshiba!
Nope. HTC seems to be getting better and better. Unless you're using a branded model, I don't know what the carrier did to it.
I'd like to see the video part taken care of, but overall it hasn't been that bad.
Well, aside from the video issue, I'm kinda surprised that few people are complaining about the speaker quality. It definitely needs a working equalizer. Also there are many issues if you try to talk to someone through the speaker in a non-silent place (like driving your car).
Bluetooth has always been touch and go ever since the broadcom stack was replaced with the MS one......
I think it would be a lot more useful if people worked out who was responsible for what...
MS make the OS - HTC tweak it to match their devices and add their own developed apps.
How many people with non-HTC branded Kaisers have the HTC homescreen on their device?
If I was HTC I would actually ignore a thread called "Are you pissed off with HTC" and would go and look for one that was balanced and reasonable in its criticisms.
Wow. Sure are a bunch of enabling fanboys around here. If you bought a BMW because they advertised the power of their engine and they didn't mention that it only came with a 2-speed transmission, would you call that a "niggling" problem too? The reason HTC continues to ignore blatant quality issues and opt for the cheapest, crappiest solutions is because people keep buying anyway, saying rediculous things like, "Well, it's not THAT bad," or "It's a phone first, then a camera." For $700, a PPC shouldn't be "not THAT bad" it should be a quality piece of machinery. Instead, HTC continues to cut corners to increase their profit margins, and 80% of these posts are people thanking them for it. If you're that free with your money (and your standards), please, I'll be happy to take it off your hands too.
i have no faith whatsoever in capitalism - they need to be pressured into doing something otherwise they will just ignore these problems - ive seen it happen time and time again in the past - you must stand for what you believe in
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Wow. Sure are a bunch of enabling fanboys around here. If you bought a BMW because they advertised the power of their engine and they didn't mention that it only came with a 2-speed transmission, would you call that a "niggling" problem too? The reason HTC continues to ignore blatant quality issues and opt for the cheapest, crappiest solutions is because people keep buying anyway, saying rediculous things like, "Well, it's not THAT bad," or "It's a phone first, then a camera." For $700, a PPC shouldn't be "not THAT bad" it should be a quality piece of machinery. Instead, HTC continues to cut corners to increase their profit margins, and 80% of these posts are people thanking them for it. If you're that free with your money (and your standards), please, I'll be happy to take it off your hands too.
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I totally agree !!! At this so high price, we could expect much much more from this device, also when you know that this high price is due to the fact that a lot of hardware is inside, but HTC allows us to only use a small portion of it !
I feel like buying a big house, but restricted to live in only one small room ...
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There is already a thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1703056 ) with VERY similar contents so I'm unsure about making this thread another sticky (there have been SEVERAL similar threads - for example, the D3D one - ; then, we would need to make all of them sticky). However, I've linked to this thread from there and, if you REALLY want, you could also ask the thread starter there to link to your thread too.
I'll alos keep an eye on this thread and if it receives a lot of answers / messages, I reconsider making it sticky.
HTC doesn't always release drivers with devices. One of the other members around here was saying it took several months to get a certain driver out the door after they had release some other device.
I think HTC will get us a fix for video drivers, but they're largely at the mercy of Qualcomm, who seems to be having problems finding people to create drivers for them (as is evidenced by recent job postings from them).
I would love the updated video drivers.
But one of my biggest annoyances is the keyboard's inability to properly transmit all the letters I type when I am typing fast. Palm sucks, but I will admit my Treo 650 had the best keyboard/keyboard software combo of any mobile device I've ever used. The error correction was ingenious, and it could take input as fast as I could give it.
Just as extra insight:
All (Y)our posts end up consilidated by reports at HTC's HQ here in Taiwan.
They are extremely busy grasping big chunks of the WM6 PDA market (10 million pieces objecive for 2008) and competing with CHINA.
BENEFIT is the main driver, and, sorry to say, they did not show any pro-active attitude in solving issues or complains.
I could put a copy of some emails between them and me here, though I will not let them "loose face". (loosing face is more shamefull than loosing business, do not forget this)
My BT Headset works Perfect. BT isn't perfect @all, so you can't complain about BT stuff to HTC... HTC Users WM6, and some Components and stuff, I'm sure are based on the OS (else the OS would make no sence). So blaim HTC for the Bluetooth Chaos is wrong and kiddy style. I've always expirienced problems with BT... so why should HTC be the one who fix the whole BT problem.
I'm very hapy with me original HTC Tytn II.
My HTC TyTN II (Kaiser) works 100% reliably with my bluetooth car kit and my bluetooth home phone adapter, my WiFi network at home and at work, syncs with my work PC running XP Pro and my home PC running Vista.
NONE of this was possible with my previous Nokia N70.
If anyone has SW quality problems it's Nokia, IMHO the Kaiser rocks!
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I could put a copy of some emails between them and me here, though I will not let them "loose face". (loosing face is more shamefull than loosing business, do not forget this)
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That is exactly what you should do. Why protect HTC - they're in the wrong here and we need to hold the accountable. They need to know that if they won't fix a crippled device, they're going to lose face over it.
No. I am not pissed off.
So you guys have had the HD7 for a while now. I know it has bugs at the moment. Its to be expected as the OS is still new.
But would you buy it if you knew what you knew now?
Yes, most certainly. Loving WP7 completely. In terms of hardware, the size of the screen is the deal maker for me. But a surprisingly nice addition is the kick stand, which is both effective, useful and invokes an 'oooh that's cool' from people I show the phone to.
I did buy it, then I returned it.
And got an Omnia 7.
May I ask why?
Absolutley I would, yes, there are are few niggles but this is version 1 of the software and a brand new device FFS. Apple are STILL having problems withe the iphone 4 even now (alarms cannot deal with move to GMT from BST for example). With WP7 you are buying into one of the most promising new mobile phone OS's of recent times IMHO, with the HD7 in particular, you are getting a cool big screen device from a company that has built up a good name for itself in the industry. I currently own the HTC Desire and the HTC HD7. I will be keeping the Desire only until the Kindle app and HTML5/ Flash land for WP7, then that will go on Ebay.
My only fear is that because MS decided to launch without one or two features (Flash/ CutnPaste and turn by turn Nav) it will get hammered by the critics in the tech press and be stillborn. This would be a tragedy - the more competition there is in the smartphone space the better for the consumer.
I also hope the handset manufacturers give it the attention it deserves, recent reports on build quality issues with the HTC Trophy do not bode well
That's a conclusive argument
I'm mainly after one as I'm a software developer and I'm interested in the app platform. Looks good. I will go get one today
Ive had mine a day and love it. Was running andoird on my HD2 previously and loved that. But I love the HD7 more. Ye the app market isnt as large as the other major two OS but I can live with that and times will change.
I had an iphone last year and once you get over the intiial hysteria of having millions of useless apps to download and amuse yourself with its not so important.
Ive not had any bugs with the HD7 yet. What issues have people come across.
My only gripe is that Im stuck with crappy Vodafone until 2012
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Sure, I loved it in the first 2 days but these 4 main reasons cropped up:
1. The phone would crash/lockup, it did this about 6 times in the week I had it.
2.The hard buttons (on/off, volume, camera) had NO click to them, they were completely soft, so I ended up pressing them all the time by accident, I launched the camera so many times when just holding the phone.
3.The case I was sold with it from the O2 store actually marked the back of it. ( a Leather one with a strap you pull to get it out, don't buy it)
4. I had huge doubts about the overall quality of the device, I really really don't think it would last for 18 months.
I understand 1 (possibly) and 3 were not the fault of the actual device but after issues 2 and 4 cropped up I just decided to return it and got a Omnia 7 instead.
So far for me the Omnia 7 is much better, seems much more higher build quality and its made from metal, the buttons have a nice satisfying click to them, and the screen is just gorgeous, aswell as it being much faster at loading apps and games.
The only reason I took the HD7 over the Omnia 7 in the first place was the double storage but that's not worth the trade off for me.
Oh Yes!!
Having bought an iPhone when they first came out and then giving it to one of our engineers within a week (he thought all his birthdays had come at once!) as deemed useless for true functionality compared with WM6. And then enjoyed my Touch HD I was in eager anticipation of the HD7.
Absolutely love it
Good OS - and looking forward to the updates
Brilliant device - everybody that sees it drools over it and rushes to renew their contract
I have been using email on my mobiles for years and have to say that the HD7 is by far the most brilliant device for actually 'doing business' on the move - big & bright and cool to use
Edit: Forgot to mention - the Office Hub is a 'killer': Was at a presentation yesterday with 2min before I stood up and realised I needed info from a spreadsheet which I thought was on my HD7 (but wasn't) - it took me 30secs to get it! - try doing that with an Android or iPhone...
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The only issue I have so far is the battery life but I've only done a couple of charges so hopefully that will improve.
It's early days for me but at the moment I am happier than I thought I would be. I'm trying Zune pass at the moment and really liking it. Maybe I didn't need the 16GB after all.
I though about the Omnia 7 but didn't want another 18/24 month contract and the PAYG prices being thrown around were a lot more expensive. Plus, I couldn't actually find anyone selling it on PAYG!
Had it for a bit now, had a few bugs happen, but I would not change it for any other phone out there.
Omnia 7 is a 100% no go for me because of the 8gb memory, I only have about 500meg left on my HD7 and will be ugrading to 32gb asap.
Im still not convinced in AMOLED screens, the colours never look right to me and the edges arnt smooth (looking at my sisters and aunts desires) The look stunning, but they dont look real if that makes sence? I would have loved to have an SLCD in it though. But to be honest the HD7 screen looks fantastic because I have the backlight on 100% all the time.
Battery life isnt that bad, it could be better, but it IS better than my HD2's was.
Biggest niggle is bluetooth audio streaming of music doesnt seem to be as high as quality as my HD2s theres everso slight distortion on high notes. Not that noticable, but enough to niggle me.
Once the updates start to roll out its going to be an incredible device.
Im wondering if an update will be rolled out when the US launch happens? why else would it be delayed? or at least im hoping the promised 60 xbox live that were supposed to be available at launch will be availble at the american launch.
Overall best phone I have ever used, the user experiance is fantastic, its just so nice to use every day, and that completely overruls any niggles I have had, which no doubt will be sorted very soon.
Had mine unlocked for 24h now and just learning the OS but what i'm seeing is fantastic! I've come from a HD2 where as soon as i got it i flashed a custom rom then ran adroid on it for ages but now i could never go back even after 24h!!!
there are a few niggles, coming from android where you had settings for everything there does seem to be a real lack of options just the basics to to get you through, i also cant see how to add a picture to a contact who isnt on my facebook?????
i agree with whats been posted before, this OS has the potential to be the best one out there it just needs to grow.
I've had mine for 2 weeks now and love it! Yes some things are missing and there are a few bugs in the OS, but I'm willing to persiverre because what it does give it does really well.
I had an HD2 with Energy's custome roms for a year now and I am so over HTC Sense (I used earlier versions on my Diamond and Orbit too)and now the "new" HTC apps looks very dated amongst the WP7 Metro apps.
Email, something I could not really get working very well on my HD2, runs like a dream on WP7 and I'm turning into a sick email junkie (help!).
As for the screen, everyone keeps knocking this phone in favour of the Samsung, but in reality, the screen on the HD7 is better than the HD2 and can hold it's own. Might not look as good next to a Samsung, but who cares? Are you going to hold an HD7 and Samsung next to each other 24/7? No? Then you won't notice the difference.
Is the email better on the WP7 than Android. The email on Android drove me up the wall with its bugs and weird behaviour. I have seen a few people on this thread mention positively the email so I am hopeful.
Yes, without a doubt, sure it has a few bugs that Microsoft can fix, but these will not stop me loving this device, never going back to an iPhone again, I'll be sticking to Windows Phone or Android devices from here on in, I had the 3GS then the iPhone 4 and now it's on Ebay as I got bored with it
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Is the email better on the WP7 than Android.
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You can pinch and zoom with HTML email which is fantastically useful, and keeps the email as the sender intended. From my understanding (Neowin WP7 vs Android Communication Comparison) Android doesn't do this.
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You can pinch and zoom with HTML email which is fantastically useful, and keeps the email as the sender intended. From my understanding (Neowin WP7 vs Android Communication Comparison) Android doesn't do this.
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The main problems I had with Android was that I often had issues setting up POP email accounts on it. Also could behave oddly when picking up messages, I used to get phantom messages or it would not pick them up correctly or in some cases at all.
oh yes i would, though tbh i would of sold my fish tank and got it on payg and unlocked it as o2 contract prices are so steep and the coverage i not as good as tmobile (not sure if this is the same everywhere but around where i live its the case). I will be honest if it wasn't for the fact all other devices are only 8gb i would not have gone for the hd7 but rather the omnia but there is no way i can live with 8gb. The only annoying thing is that when i'm playing games i sometimes touch the search button esp if i have the phone plugged in at the time due to the way i then have to hold it, but if you press back it goes right back to where you left off.
in conclusion it was not my phone of choice but my hand was forced by the internal storage but i am glad it was, the omnia is no better and my second choice mozart seems cheap and to smiler to my old desire. I love the size of the phone i was worried when i first saw it but the shape is like nothing i have ever seen and make it slip into the pocket easier then my old desire and yet i get all that screen.
Quick question guys. Does the HD7 not have a flash? I thought it does.
Yes, the HD7 has a dual LED flash (at least mine does!)
I have a Samsung Vibrant that I am tired of, and I would like to know if you would truly recommend this phone?
I want to know a few things.
1. Is there any lag?
2. How is the GPS, is it like the GPS on Android?
3. Does every game cost money or are there some good free ones?
4. What would you rate the Battery life?
The disadvantage is mainly the battery, but fortunately some rom updates fix it just a little, but you still need daily charging.
There's virtually no lag in apps or in system.
GPS is fine, but there is a lack of full-scale nav apps. but you have free apps that are nearly as good
most good games cost something but yes there are good free ones too. also most paid ones offer a trial version or free with ads. either way gaming is actually great on wp7
if you get the phone for free/cheap on contract or however you will, i recommend you do so. but of course you can always wait a little longer and get upcoming ones, though i would absolutely recommend you get a wp7 phone
Here's My views
1. I love the Big Screen for browsing
2. Facebook and Twitter apps are as good as Android ( but FB dosen't have chat yet)
3. GPS is good but still no navigation for Maps
4. I love the Email intergration simply brilliant ( yahoo, gmail, live mail ) you can have em all
5. Good for Music Sync and Game play
6. Within 5 sec you can shoot a photo and upload it to face book with camera button and share facility
7. can wipe / detect phone through Live Services for free if lost
Only niggles I have is
It does need a really good update which is coming one just this month and one big one later on
I have had problem with apps getting stuck and you have to reboot phone all the time
( although I guess its an app problem)
Camera is not the best but is ok but there are better out there
and Yeah the ringtone sound is really rubbish. you can hardly hear them and there is no facility to put custom ringtone yet
But videos and music are fine..
best of luck
I'd like to chime in that there are 100 stock ringtones and I hear them all just fine. I understand that this is a common complaint, and people point to software issues, but I think half of it is not realizing what your ringer volume is. I've seen people say it's "all the way up to 10" not realizing that's the in-call volume. 30 is the ringer volume.
Maybe I'm just lucky. My ringer is fine.
Yes, I would recommend this phone.
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No - The lack of apps compared to the Android is just crazy.
There is extremely limited options for customization.
As far as performance, it is quite fast.
I had all 3 so far, Vibrant, HD7 and now a HD2.
The HD7 is cool in it's own way. But, the aftermarket software is just not there - Yet.
I still recommend the HD2 to anyone, but it is personal preferance. The HD2 is full of issues just like the other 2.
...you're comparing android apps, which have been out 2+ years, with wp7 apps, which has been out a couple months...?
Wait for more months as more fart apps are to come. then, it will level android and ios market.
I know one app that wp7 has that both android and IOS wants real bad.... Netflix !
I definitely would. It is a great phone and has a greater user experience
I can say with out a doubt that for me leaving my samsung captivate JUNK (and android since G1) I couldnt be happier. I left windows for android because well i didnt like all the lag and crap. I just got this HD7 friday morning fugured i would give it a try and boy howdy im in love lol. Windows did do a great job compared to older versions and yes they still need some updates but its a new OS. If you get this phone you will be happy for there really is no lag. if apps is a biggy for you just know they are on there way just give it some time.
You will notice a difference in screen quality. Although I prefer the larger screen of the HD7/HD2, the Vibrant looks much nicer in terms of color and motion. Otherwise I'd pretty much agree with the other comments above.
Build quality is questionable, but so is the Vibrant's IMO.
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Been thinking about getting a hd7 for a while, went into o2 today, compared my hd2 with it and I was amazed just how plasticy ****e the hd7 is, volume buttons felt awful weak, the test phone in the shop was scratched on the bezel. Couldn't test the screen, but guess this is the same as the hd2.
Starting to have second thoughts about getting one now, how are your hd7's holding up?
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Been thinking about getting a hd7 for a while, went into o2 today, compared my hd2 with it and I was amazed just how plasticy ****e the hd7 is, volume buttons felt awful weak, the test phone in the shop was scratched on the bezel. Couldn't test the screen, but guess this is the same as the hd2.
Starting to have second thoughts about getting one now, how are your hd7's holding up?
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Lol mine is in the shop...it came with an impossible to press camera button.
Kind of regretting swapping my HD2, but I needed a fully functional, guaranteed OS (other than WinMo 6.5), so I went with WP7. (I'm not saying the ROMs are bad, but I need guaranteed stability at the moment)
I paid about $250 for the HD7...so basically $50 after swapping the HD2. I definitely wouldn't recommend spending much more...not that great of an upgrade.
if you want something to work for you as a phone right out of the box this is what u want....
if you want to customize every single thing then not..
i have been using it for past 5 months now and no regrets.. do not lag, very smooth, great GUI... only dont like the battery drain but its 4.3 inch screen...
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Been thinking about getting a hd7 for a while, went into o2 today, compared my hd2 with it and I was amazed just how plasticy ****e the hd7 is, volume buttons felt awful weak, the test phone in the shop was scratched on the bezel. Couldn't test the screen, but guess this is the same as the hd2.
Starting to have second thoughts about getting one now, how are your hd7's holding up?
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HD2 is a step up in build quality. Metal battery cover, no loose volume rockers..
Having had my HD7 for about 4 months now, I have zero scratches on it. All buttons function normally. Screen looks great. Even nothing wrong with the plastic battery cover (which I've found more and more HTC's use (EVO))
So to whereas the build quality is less than that of an HD2, it's fine. I have no protection of any type on mine, and slide it in and out of pockets every day, even jeans. I'm careful that these pockets are clean though.
Yep! Take the plunge! The HD7 is a beast.
I came from a Touch Pro2 and, before that, Sony Ericsson Xperia X1. I love the new OS compared to Windows Mobile 6.5 although custom ROMs was an addicting trend.
I listen to music a lot and the phone sounds great to me, and even better after downloading Sound Enhancer. The Zune backgrounds are nice! The album art and font are big. It's a breeze to search music, too! You can open YouTube, Slacker, TuneIn and other apps from Zune.
Battery life was a problem but I turned off some features to increase life. Plus I got that new radio ROM from Ansar. I noticed a difference there, too. I hope NoDo helps out some.
People talk about apps all the time. Android has more apps (true!) but my friends say they never use a third of the apps there. The number is there for bragging rights, I guess. On iPhone, you have an XBox Live app. Hell, Xbox Live is part of your phone! No need to download a Facebook app when Facebook integration comes with the phone. Myspace, too. There's a Twitter integration forthcoming even.
Windows Live account is the new equivalent to Windows Mobile Device Center. All your contacts, uploaded photos, and Office documents are saved there. You can login to all your email accounts in one spot. It's just convenient.
Lastly, the screen......beautiful and, not to mention, huge! Again, AMOLED and Super LCD screens are for bragging rights. I watch music videos and NETFLIX on the phone and they look great. Surf with no problem.
I have 6 months hd7
definitely a nice phone, but not more than the previous HD2
My problem now is WP7, after 6 months only to come copy \ paste
and say that I really liked WP7
no other phone in sight with WP7
I'm only seeing new dual-core device with Android
I can not wait for the next update from MS (Mango) in late 2011 or early 2012
It seems absurd that in six months Ms know managed to do just that
I'm selling my HD7 pending HTc Evo 3D dual core with Android scheduled for July
in the meantime probably try new Sony Ericsson Arc
Hello there!
after years of using Windows Mobile, I left it at the 6.5 version and moved to Android and to be honest I'm happy with it!
but seeing Windows Mobile 7 and then Mango just made me remember the old days! so if I want to buy a device to give Windows Mobile 7 a shot will you recommend the HD7? or just pay more and get the new Titan?
I would strongly recommend you not to buy and HD7 as I have one
and Although it makes it feel like a new device, its aged a bit with regards to the hardware.
I would suggest you wait for Nokia WP7 as I m sure they will be amazing
But then again you might get the HD7 a lot cheaper now.
A point to note is HD7 has no front camera, so you will miss out when Ms has skype as I believe its coming soon
I have the HD7 now and love it. I previously had an HD2 with 6.5 and then flashed WP7 onto it and loved it even more... But you need to be prepared for WP7 as its totally different to 6.5.
With 6.5 you still had activesync and were able to treat the device as a mass storage device etc. But now you've got to sync your contacts and media different ways...
Although the Mango update has brought near perfection to the daily usability of the phone, there are still some missing things, the most important one for me that I miss from the HD2 is the WiFi Hotspot... But I find the experience so good I'm prepared to live without it but wait in expectation...
As for the HD7 as a device I find its great. Everyone comments on how nice a phone it is. The kickstand is a feature I simply adore. Its good value for money and as its no newcomer to the market accessories are plentiful and cheap on ebay.
Forgetting OS wars, as a device, I'd have no problems recommending it... It just works for me in every way...
Absolutely recomend this phone. Fist had HD2 with WP7.
HD7 with Mango works very very smoothly, does everything I need, and does it well.
All people who see it are impressed
That's what I wana know, is HD7 doing good with Mango? cause now I may get it for a good price and keep my Nexus S
I can't stand Nokia, don't know why
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That's what I wana know, is HD7 doing good with Mango?
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Interestingly, Mango is good, but I would have been happy with nodo... The combination of a smooth and fast OS (metro UI) and a big screen for games and video are what I'm addicted to now...
As you can see from my sig I tried going back to a normal sized phone/screen (LG) but I sold it within a few months...
I have friends and work friends with all the current top phones and I wouldn't swap my HD7 for any of them...
And yes, the HD7 can be had for very little money... I paid $300 for mine new... I've seen them go new from $280-350...
Okay that's it, I guess that what I need I will search for a good deal on it!
Thanks!
I recommend Windows Phone 7 to everyone I can. It's just an all around great OS. I have been a big Sony Ericsson guy for some time till I switched to the HD2 which I loved. But so far I have found nothing better than my HD7 (software wise, hardware on the other hand leaves a little to be desired, but oh well).
I like Android, but I have some major gripes with it. And iOS just puts me to sleep.