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hey guys is there any root/roms for this device yet? ive tried searching and havent come up with anything... it all seems to be for the AT&T vivid...
The Raider x710a is the HTC Vivid, at least that's what it says under my battery cover.
Does the Rogers device have the same code?
Root's always been available for Canadian Raiders as your bootloader was unlocked much earlier than ours. custom ROMs are interchangeable by region.
well its actually a bell one, same device but i tried loading the ics official RUU from AT&T and it was a no go?
set sail for fail, another day, another newb
just newb with this device, if you check my threads i use to cook roms for the magic...so stfu
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well its actually a bell one, same device but i tried loading the ics official RUU from AT&T and it was a no go?
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Learn the art of posting on XDA. This should be in general.
You asked for root and ROMs. For you, this has been available for what feels like centuries. Just looking at the dev board would have gotten your answer.
Now you're talking about ICS RUU, which is neither of those. Searching anywhere would have immediately told you that you need an OTA with the new HBOOT and the Canadian carriers have not released that yet!
Ai ya yai, it's no surprise that PG left.
ok so its rooted, and if im corrected there is no ics available to flash?
Yes.
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hey guys is there any root/roms for this device yet? ive tried searching and havent come up with anything... it all seems to be for the AT&T vivid...
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shael sorry for the harsh greetings from others. I am not sure when decurum and sensibility were flushed from our souls bit I'd like to wish you the best from Dallas, TX USA.
Good luck with the Raider.
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shael sorry for the harsh greetings from others. I am not sure when decurum and sensibility were flushed from our souls bit I'd like to wish you the best from Dallas, TX USA.
Good luck with the Raider.
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A lot of it flew out the window when PG left. There were so many people who kept asking the same questions over and over, who didn't search nor follow instructions, then proceeding to come here and whine about why their phone/ROM didn't work. PG got fed up. It's part of why the development here is so weak.
This posed question really is no different. I can provide decent responses to good questions and demonstrated competence, but it's immensely tedious to try to respond to the same questions over and over when the answer is readily plastered all over the place.
It was common understanding in the old Captivate forum that one is to search before posting, then post their question. For some reason, the problem wasn't nearly as pronounced there, and all places in which it appeared was in the General section. I feel like the convoluted (by comparison) HTC setup is causing a lot of angst among those new to this, but the information to do things properly is still present on the forums as much as it was before. All people must do is read thoroughly and follow directions. Nobody is responsible for your device except you, so it's your fault if you brick your $500+ phone.
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A lot of it flew out the window when PG left. There were so many people who kept asking the same questions over and over, who didn't search nor follow instructions, then proceeding to come here and whine about why their phone/ROM didn't work. PG got fed up. It's part of why the development here is so weak.
This posed question really is no different. I can provide decent responses to good questions and demonstrated competence, but it's immensely tedious to try to respond to the same questions over and over when the answer is readily plastered all over the place.
It was common understanding in the old Captivate forum that one is to search before posting, then post their question. For some reason, the problem wasn't nearly as pronounced there, and all places in which it appeared was in the General section. I feel like the convoluted (by comparison) HTC setup is causing a lot of angst among those new to this, but the information to do things properly is still present on the forums as much as it was before. All people must do is read thoroughly and follow directions. Nobody is responsible for your device except you, so it's your fault if you brick your $500+ phone.
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You nailed it, while being politically correct at the same time
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A lot of it flew out the window when PG left. There were so many people who kept asking the same questions over and over, who didn't search nor follow instructions, then proceeding to come here and whine about why their phone/ROM didn't work. PG got fed up. It's part of why the development here is so weak.
This posed question really is no different. I can provide decent responses to good questions and demonstrated competence, but it's immensely tedious to try to respond to the same questions over and over when the answer is readily plastered all over the place.
It was common understanding in the old Captivate forum that one is to search before posting, then post their question. For some reason, the problem wasn't nearly as pronounced there, and all places in which it appeared was in the General section. I feel like the convoluted (by comparison) HTC setup is causing a lot of angst among those new to this, but the information to do things properly is still present on the forums as much as it was before. All people must do is read thoroughly and follow directions. Nobody is responsible for your device except you, so it's your fault if you brick your $500+ phone.
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I can understand the intolerance for whiners, but he wasn't whining. I know the history of PG and the reasons he left.
The quick quips telling someone to search really aren't helpful. Maybe they did and it was confusing or they didn't find the answer.
For that matter, if searching is always the response at XDA, we don't need XDA since all of the same answers are available on other websites and can be Googled.
The Internet is free and we can act however we wish. My wish is for a more helpful, less critical culture.
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Same questions everywhere i look
I have been using xda for years, i never post, i do this out of respect for the devs and people who have legit questions in the tread but since i just got my HTC raider last week (i have a G-Nexus as my main device) i started to Rom and ROot this device and i have seen so much anger on these threads, brothers i have the same hate for mundane and stupid questions that can be answered by control -F-, or the search button at the top, i have found a answer to every problem i have had for almost 3 years worth of androids (G1,DEXT,DesireZ,GalaxySVibrant,MOTOAtrix,Xt860,samsung note,galaxy nexus) Just for the love of god please use the search functions that we have at our disposal so that we dont loose DEV's like PG and we continue to make these phones better than they are
lets stand up for justice in the forums
Lets stand up for clean forums
LETS STAND UP FOR SOME BLOODY ICE CREAM SANDVICH
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I can understand the intolerance for whiners, but he wasn't whining. I know the history of PG and the reasons he left.
The quick quips telling someone to search really aren't helpful. Maybe they did and it was confusing or they didn't find the answer.
For that matter, if searching is always the response at XDA, we don't need XDA since all of the same answers are available on other websites and can be Googled.
The Internet is free and we can act however we wish. My wish is for a more helpful, less critical culture.
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I'm not talking about this isolated instance. I'm saying in general. OP didn't whine, but his second question posted a very simple and very common question whose answer is found all over the shop.
Every thread I've read ever since joining XDA has a clear instruction set. Never found any problems, and any unclear bits was usually cleaned up within at most a day. Especially for things that are guided/intuitive like RUU updating or CWM flashing. Anything deviating from that has always had clear and express instructions.
I agree with you on the searching front. It's just that by consequence, XDA is a pinnacle for Android development information and Google's search is not localized to the forum (though it can be forced), nor are all its threads indexed with the latest information on the latest issues, unlike the forum search and its ability to parse posts as they are made. Likewise, most of the information here cannot be found elsewhere unless heavily publicised.
My wish is for XDA's culture to have more autonomy and less incompetence. XDA is more of an instruction manual when it comes to knowing the ins, outs and modifications that you can do to your device.
Anyway, let's end this before it erupts. I am now abandoning this thread.
can any one give me the rom for ics for nexus one and blackrose?
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can any one give me the rom for ics for nexus one and blackrose?
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First of all, I am going to assume (perhaps wrongly) that you are 14 years-old (from your user name), and believe me when I tell you: I know that age is hard, and I know because I've been there, however, no matter how hard it was for me I knew that if I dared asking my mother what a word meant, I'd get immediate attention and instructions to f-off and check up on a dictionary (there was no wikipedia nor google back then) and that no-one else was going to do for me what I didn't do by myself, it is with such background that I want to tell you something:
Last saturday I decided to try ICS on my N1, I had no idea where to start since it had been over 8 months when I last did anything to my phone. Still it took me 25 minutes to not only find the right thread, read it, understand it, download the stuff I needed, and read again to make sure I am not doing something dumb, it also was enough time to actually do the whole process.
Now, considering you already found your way into XDA-Developers and you know how to read threads and know how to post questions, I'd say you have wasted approximately 1 hour thinking somebody is actually going to give you the ROM for ICS and Blackrose, let alone baby-walk you through the process.
I am going to assume that most devs are ignoring this thread (and rightly so) as well as most respected members (and I'd like to consider myself a quiet, self-respected member) but still, I do believe its good to take a bit of time from everyday routine to let someone else know "hey! you are doing it wrong" and hopefully get into that person's head and make that little switch go click.
If after all of this you still feel entitled to have someone hand you over a couple of files, please by all means head over to this location: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
Thanks and have a great life!
srry im very new here and i couldnt get my way around and ive been checking for hours on the files for ics on the N1 and had nothing but thanks for ur reply
as i said, again im extremely new to all of this and i dont know how to put ROMs in the phone and how to just do any of this if anyone can just give me something from where i can start i will be gladly appreciated
See, now that is different and worth of paying at least a little bit of attention. However I don't believe you have spent hours without making some sense of anything, at least you know about ICS and Blackrose, you may have a rough idea of what you want to accomplish, and so I'll point you in the right direction by telling you to look for the very first thread on the android development forum for nexus one, the one referring to the wiki and to now read it instead of skipping it as you probably did the first time. I'm sure if you read through it you'll understand the basics and will be able to figure it out really soon.
Good luck.
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Dnt be discouraged...everyone was once a noob. Just as the above user said check out texasice ics and bcm ics.we will help u in every way..read the forums and POSTs ...not just the first and 2nd..
thank you for the reply and i will check the first android development on the n1 and go step by step understanding everything
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can any one give me the rom for ics for nexus one and blackrose?
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I use this one in my (now replaced by SGS3) nexus one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366897
You should read the instructions carefully, the process involves a few steps...
Note that there are 2 o 3 ICS ROMs for Nexus One, and they all have some glitches (USB tethering, camera, SoDs) but they are quite usable.
For those of you that have been around these parts for a while, you may remember the State of Development updates that good ol' Gsleon3 used to update us with. These came for us at a time when development for the Vivid seemed to be at a standstill, and for those of you that were here, you remember why. For those of you who don't, let me catch you up a little (and I apologize for the bad feelings that this may drum up, but I don't want anything to get out of control again). So grab a beer and a snack, this may be a long one
It was about April, and development for the Holiday was still in its infancy. There were a few good ROMs being released, and generally, it was a good place to be. Then accusations of stealing other's work, accusations of corrupt moderators, and all around child-like behavior started, and it became the downfall of the Holiday forum at XDA. ROM threads started closing. Then came the bickering. Then the Devs left. Then the users began to play the blame game, and the "let me try to whine my way to what I want" game. All the best devs left and opened up shop in their own little corners of the internet (and I can't blame them one bit), and development for the device was no longer centralized. There were/are still AWESOME ROMs available for this device, just not on XDA. This always made me a little sad. As painful of a place as XDA (or any internet forum for that matter) can be at times, there's sooooo much good information crammed into one site that it has always been my one-stop shop, but that wasn't true any longer. I settled in, I found a home, but I kept a close eye on what else was happening across the interweb's Holiday community. I liked to keep my eye on one project specifically, synergy's CM10 project, because who wouldn't want JellyBean, right?
Now, a little more information for those of you who weren't around.. The original CM10 thread was opened at another site in July, where the project started. Syn put a lot of time and effort into it, but in the end, found it to be not worth his time to continue on a project he didn't see possible to ever be finished (mainly due to the ATT in-call mic issue and video issues), and again, who can blame him? He abandoned the project at the beginning of August. This is where mg picked the project up, and continued it with a few fixes himself, before somehow we caught the attention of h8rift. h8 has been awesome - cleaning up our trees, getting things in their proper home, and powering through anything that gets in his way It's so great to have him around.
Myself, up until October, had only ever had experience with things like making boot animations, icons, editing .xmls in .apks, and some slight .smali edits. Thanks to mg's excellent guide and a crapton of Googling, I learned out how to compile/build cm from source. Then I thought, "I wonder if I could do the same for other JB flavors?" So guess what? I tried, and it worked. Every single question I had along the way (with the exception of a few Ubuntu and git specific questions), were answered by a thread here at XDA. Cool, right?
I am very excited to see new ROMage out for this device...as I'm sure anyone who was here through the "Great Holiday Wars of 2012" would agree, I was pretty sure what we had was all we were ever going to see. Which again, would have been OK, cause there are some great ROMs out there, but I've never been the kind of dude to settle in on the same ROM for too long - that's why I came to XDA in the first place. Now as I'm sure everyone can see, through collaboration, this project is making HUGE progress! I cannot thank mg and h8 enough for keeping it going. This brings me to my last point...
I encourage everyone to participate, and offer suggestions, and share information - that is, after all, what a developer's forum should be about. The wealth of knowledge that's available at XDA is out of this world, but sometimes hiding deep within the threads, filled by off-topic chatter and users who have way to huge a sense of entitlement. Please always keep in mind that the things you're getting here are free. Hours upon hours upon hours of work go into these projects, just to be shared for very little asked in return. Wait, we ask for something in return? Yes - READ, SEARCH, and SEARCH AGAIN before posting. Like I said, there's already a wealth of knowledge here that's incomparable to other Android forums on the web, but yes, sometimes it can be trying to find that information. But it's not impossible. Also - keep an eye on the issues list. There are bugs. There will probably always be bugs. And as long as there are, they will continue to be squished to the best of our ability (though h8's ability is far beyond mine, so let's especially be nice to him )
In closing - PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not let this place become what it was before. So far I feel like the atmosphere around here has been a lot better, but I know how easy it can be for it to slip back to where it was. So be respectful, don't ask for ETAs, and be thankful for what we have - cause what we now have is a TON more options that we had before.
I remember the "Great Holiday Wars of 2012"... it was ugly, didn't even want to visit the site half the time. But things are looking up and I'm glad I didn't return my vivid thirty days after the release date like so many did.
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For those of you that have been around these parts for a while, you may remember the State of Development updates that good ol' Gsleon3 used to update us with. These came for us at a time when development for the Vivid seemed to be at a standstill, and for those of you that were here, you remember why. For those of you who don't, let me catch you up a little (and I apologize for the bad feelings that this may drum up, but I don't want anything to get out of control again). So grab a beer and a snack, this may be a long one
It was about April, and development for the Holiday was still in its infancy. There were a few good ROMs being released, and generally, it was a good place to be. Then accusations of stealing other's work, accusations of corrupt moderators, and all around child-like behavior started, and it became the downfall of the Holiday forum at XDA. ROM threads started closing. Then came the bickering. Then the Devs left. Then the users began to play the blame game, and the "let me try to whine my way to what I want" game. All the best devs left and opened up shop in their own little corners of the internet (and I can't blame them one bit), and development for the device was no longer centralized. There were/are still AWESOME ROMs available for this device, just not on XDA. This always made me a little sad. As painful of a place as XDA (or any internet forum for that matter) can be at times, there's sooooo much good information crammed into one site that it has always been my one-stop shop, but that wasn't true any longer. I settled in, I found a home, but I kept a close eye on what else was happening across the interweb's Holiday community. I liked to keep my eye on one project specifically, synergy's CM10 project, because who wouldn't want JellyBean, right?
Now, a little more information for those of you who weren't around.. The original CM10 thread was opened at another site in July, where the project started. Syn put a lot of time and effort into it, but in the end, found it to be not worth his time to continue on a project he didn't see possible to ever be finished (mainly due to the ATT in-call mic issue and video issues), and again, who can blame him? He abandoned the project at the beginning of August. This is where mg picked the project up, and continued it with a few fixes himself, before somehow we caught the attention of h8rift. h8 has been awesome - cleaning up our trees, getting things in their proper home, and powering through anything that gets in his way It's so great to have him around.
Myself, up until October, had only ever had experience with things like making boot animations, icons, editing .xmls in .apks, and some slight .smali edits. Thanks to mg's excellent guide and a crapton of Googling, I learned out how to compile/build cm from source. Then I thought, "I wonder if I could do the same for other JB flavors?" So guess what? I tried, and it worked. Every single question I had along the way (with the exception of a few Ubuntu and git specific questions), were answered by a thread here at XDA. Cool, right?
I am very excited to see new ROMage out for this device...as I'm sure anyone who was here through the "Great Holiday Wars of 2012" would agree, I was pretty sure what we had was all we were ever going to see. Which again, would have been OK, cause there are some great ROMs out there, but I've never been the kind of dude to settle in on the same ROM for too long - that's why I came to XDA in the first place. Now as I'm sure everyone can see, through collaboration, this project is making HUGE progress! I cannot thank mg and h8 enough for keeping it going. This brings me to my last point...
I encourage everyone to participate, and offer suggestions, and share information - that is, after all, what a developer's forum should be about. The wealth of knowledge that's available at XDA is out of this world, but sometimes hiding deep within the threads, filled by off-topic chatter and users who have way to huge a sense of entitlement. Please always keep in mind that the things you're getting here are free. Hours upon hours upon hours of work go into these projects, just to be shared for very little asked in return. Wait, we ask for something in return? Yes - READ, SEARCH, and SEARCH AGAIN before posting. Like I said, there's already a wealth of knowledge here that's incomparable to other Android forums on the web, but yes, sometimes it can be trying to find that information. But it's not impossible. Also - keep an eye on the issues list. There are bugs. There will probably always be bugs. And as long as there are, they will continue to be squished to the best of our ability (though h8's ability is far beyond mine, so let's especially be nice to him )
In closing - PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not let this place become what it was before. So far I feel like the atmosphere around here has been a lot better, but I know how easy it can be for it to slip back to where it was. So be respectful, don't ask for ETAs, and be thankful for what we have - cause what we now have is a TON more options that we had before.
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I got my vivid in april lol. when did the "wars" start? didnt really get into xda until like may or july
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I got my vivid in april lol. when did the "wars" start? didnt really get into xda until like may or july
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Right before that...I got my vivid in late may I think and that was when the blame game was going around lol...wasn't pretty
Could not agree more with the op, lets be thankful for what we now have...and hopeful for what's to come
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seems like I got my vivid after all this happend. Got it off craigslist since I was switching from cricket
Well said homeslice. Although I haven't been as active in my participation I got the Vivid on day 1 and am really happy to see development where it is today. There were many points I thought the device was basically dead and time and time again it was revived with new life. Hopefully the few left can make sure not to repeat drama mistakes of the past.
And great job on going from a reader to a developer, very well done.
Why is my xda premium app only let me reply/post on certain sections of forums and not development??:banghead:
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Random. But how many posts do you have? Until you have 10, you won't be able to post I. Development
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Random. But how many posts do you have? Until you have 10, you won't be able to post I. Development
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i think is not fair to close a wip thread to bring a sense 4 rom to the vivid all i wanted to do is help this device users to be on the latest software as i said in the post that was closed i wasn't going to share it to everybody i want it to share it to developers to bring this rom to all users but it got closed for "kanging" which i think is not true since venom team never released a vivid rom even thou the did for rezound which is pretty similar device but cdma and korean's make their work on the rom also to make the radio work which no body here in xda could do after many tries all i want is to help the community and specific this device owners which expect more from this device and we know is capable of running this system and much more please let the development continue we are stuck right know on sense only because someone doesn't want to share their work on other devices which is ok if you are the developer of something and you don't want to share but why stop someone who is trying to help on a device you haven't released a rom I bet that many of the vivid users would like to flash a sense 4.1 rom on their devices
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i think is not fair to close a wip thread to bring a sense 4 rom to the vivid all i wanted to do is help this device users to be on the latest software as i said in the post that was closed i wasn't going to share it to everybody i want it to share it to developers to bring this rom to all users but it got closed for "kanging" which i think is not true since venom team never released a vivid rom even thou the did for rezound which is pretty similar device but cdma and korean's make their work on the rom also to make the radio work which no body here in xda could do after many tries all i want is to help the community and specific this device owners which expect more from this device and we know is capable of running this system and much more please let the development continue we are stuck right know on sense only because someone doesn't want to share their work on other devices which is ok if you are the developer of something and you don't want to share but why stop someone who is trying to help on a device you haven't released a rom I bet that many of the vivid users would like to flash a sense 4.1 rom on their devices
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In what part of this conversation with you this morning @ 8:01 AM was I not clear about? Would you care to elaborate??
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i had been given a link to a rom port of venom rom for the htc vivid with sense 4 and your mods in it but it is the only rom that has sense 4 for the vivid i would like your permission to post it in vivid section since it is your work the only problem is that it was made in korea and the installer script and aroma is in korean language please think about it there are so many vivid users that would like to use sense 4 on their devices thanks for your time!!
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Sorry but we don't approve of the use of our work by non-team members and do not condone the porting of any of our roms to other devices for various reasons. One of those reasons is these roms will never meet the same level of quality and support our users have become accustomed to as such, these roms will never be allowed on xda and will also be refused Venom Hub access.
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Can it be used as a base at least since it has a working ril?
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That would be the same as porting
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Ok thanks for the time you took to answer my request!!
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Sorry it's not the answer you're looking for but we run into these request every day along with unauthorized ports.
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Don't worry i understand perfect the situation
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In what part of this conversation with you this morning @ 8:01 AM was I not clear about? Would you care to elaborate??
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Btw, we're not trying to be the bad guys here... We're simply trying to protect our property. Perhaps the best way for you to achieve your objective is to reach out to the kangers to find out how they managed to port it over to your device...
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Btw, we're not trying to be the bad guys here... We're simply trying to protect our property. Perhaps the best way for you to achieve your objective is to reach out to the kangers to find out how they managed to port it over to your device...
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That's exactly what I want but there is a language barrier, instead of releasing could you try to make it legit here with your team? Please I know there are really good developers and they can find how to make it legit is all I ask I do not want to make an issue out of trying to help others with this device, this device is capable of running this Rom flawless just like the one x or rezound which in fact is is the same device but cdma could you help us or assign this port to one of your team members?
Or if none of you has the vivid let a vivid developer take care of it please we have really good developers here to!!
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This all sounds familiar...the point of this thread...
Let's just drop it. The villec2 should get its jellybean sense+ update soon, and maybe we can port it. Or maybe we can get the Koreans to share their secret. In the meantime, it appears to be elsewhere, so get it there if you must
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That's exactly what I want but there is a language barrier, instead of releasing could you try to make it legit here with your team? Please I know there are really good developers and they can find how to make it legit is all I ask I do not want to make an issue out of trying to help others with this device, this device is capable of running this Rom flawless just like the one x or rezound which in fact is is the same device but cdma could you help us or assign this port to one of your team members?
Or if none of you has the vivid let a vivid developer take care of it please we have really good developers here to!!
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So, the options are:
1. We remove all of our tweaks from the framework files of a kanged port of one of our roms so that you can use it as a base
2. You find a Korean translator to ask the one who got data working how he did it.
Let's not start more xda drama the vivid forum has already been thru this. Either find someone who speaks Korean to ask to translate or have them remove all of their tweaks like they ask. The vivid has come to far now to start drama over a sense 4 ROM
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So, the options are:
1. We remove all of our tweaks from the framework files of a kanged port of one of our roms so that you can use it as a base
2. You find a Korean translator to ask the one who got data working how he did it.
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I'm not been sarcastic please help the vivid users to get a sense 4 Rom up and running if you can remove your framework from it that would be awesome to use it as a base I know you and your team are great developers I'm using your viper Rom on my wifes phone and I am really impressed with what you guys have done, I never wanted to start a war here or elsewhere all I want to do is give the sense 4 option to vivid owners like me!! I'm really sorry I have caused any issues.
Happy New year to everybody !!!! I hope this mess get resolved soon !!!
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I'm not been sarcastic please help the vivid users to get a sense 4 Rom up and running if you can remove your framework from it that would be awesome to use it as a base I know you and your team are great developers I'm using your viper Rom on my wifes phone and I am really impressed with what you guys have done, I never wanted to start a war here or elsewhere all I want to do is give the sense 4 option to vivid owners like me!! I'm really sorry I have caused any issues.
Happy New year to everybody !!!! I hope this mess get resolved soon !!!
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You don't understand the work effort in removing our tweaks from the framework so you'll need to follow up with the Koreans.
And I honestly hope we don't see any more links to this kang roms, either here or on rootzwiki.
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Turge said:
You don't understand the work effort in removing our tweaks from the framework so you'll need to follow up with the Koreans.
And I honestly hope we don't see any more links to this kang roms, either here or on rootzwiki.
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I do understand, I'm sorry if it was to much to ask I also understand that you and your team can be mad because of my actions, it won't happen again I'm really sorry
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JEANRIVERA said:
I do understand, I'm sorry if it was to much to ask I also understand that you and your team can be mad because of my actions, it won't happen again I'm really sorry
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Time to find some Koreans!
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Time to find some Koreans!
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I tried to contact bananacakes but he hasn't responded yet
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I recently rooted my HTC vivid and I'm wanting to try other ROMs that are easy to install and that are stable mainly I'm wanting a sense ROM 4.0 and up any help would be helpful.
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I'm not trying to sound rude, but seriously, if you spent the time it took you to post this, to look around this forum you probably would have found the answer to your question.
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I have seen the forum threads you talk about but not really what I'm looking for
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What is with the hostility and the crazy rules on these boards? I get he kind of asked a newb question, but on the other hand, there are so many bad ROMs, outdated and buggy, and so on. I don't see competition as a bad thing. Just the other day, I flashed away a perfectly good ROM on my HTC One XL to try the new ViperXL, just to find out it was buggy and had restrictions that I HATED. I would have loved to been able to ask someone for some advice and opinion to know before I tried it. Trial and error is not for everyone, ESPECIALLY new people with many questions and little knowledge.
I myself have a friend on my phone plan using my old Vivid and would like some guidance on ROMs. Apparently, there are no newer and functional sense ROMs and all the AOSP ROMs have complaints about volume issues and so on. I experience bad issues on CM with mine/his previous HTC Inspire and I don't want to find out the hard way, so it would be nice to hear opinions on the stability, speed, and functionality of all the AOSP ROMs without having to flash them all and find out I would have been better off stock.
Just saying. I don't want to be ridiculed for these questions, and nobody else should be either. Maybe there can be a special area of the forums for newbs where patient people can choose to help them specifically.
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What is with the hostility and the crazy rules on these boards? I get he kind of asked a newb question, but on the other hand, there are so many bad ROMs, outdated and buggy, and so on. I don't see competition as a bad thing. Just the other day, I flashed away a perfectly good ROM on my HTC One XL to try the new ViperXL, just to find out it was buggy and had restrictions that I HATED. I would have loved to been able to ask someone for some advice and opinion to know before I tried it. Trial and error is not for everyone, ESPECIALLY new people with many questions and little knowledge.
I myself have a friend on my phone plan using my old Vivid and would like some guidance on ROMs. Apparently, there are no newer and functional sense ROMs and all the AOSP ROMs have complaints about volume issues and so on. I experience bad issues on CM with mine/his previous HTC Inspire and I don't want to find out the hard way, so it would be nice to hear opinions on the stability, speed, and functionality of all the AOSP ROMs without having to flash them all and find out I would have been better off stock.
Just saying. I don't want to be ridiculed for these questions, and nobody else should be either. Maybe there can be a special area of the forums for newbs where patient people can choose to help them specifically.
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OK...
If you read the q&a section... Its full of people that can't read...
If you flash ROMs without reading... You'll be using the RUU to fix it...
I personally am tired of jackasses just flashing away and having no freaking clue what they are doing then coming on here and demanding answers...
If you can freakin read... All... YES ALL... The answers are in these forums...
And STOP DEFENDING STUPIDITY...
Read before you flash
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Hence why the only ROM I have flashed was cm10.1 I am having in call volume issues and why I took to posting my first question and then this one. I am looking for a rom with at least sense 4.1 and jellybean with proper call volumes and working lte. I don't understand the hostilities I am sorry I do read the post but I don't have the money to replace my phone if I brick it or it becomes unresponsive or bricks and the only way some can truly learn is to read and then talk and ask questions to those who knows what they are doing
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Hence why the only ROM I have flashed was cm10.1 I am having in call volume issues and why I took to posting my first question and then this one. I am looking for a rom with at least sense 4.1 and jellybean with proper call volumes and working lte. I don't understand the hostilities I am sorry I do read the post but I don't have the money to replace my phone if I brick it or it becomes unresponsive or bricks and the only way some can truly learn is to read and then talk and ask questions to those who knows what they are doing
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It is very hard to brick your phone anymore... As long as you keep partitions straight...
If the ROM was poison... It would be removed...
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Even so I'm sure you would agree you wouldn't want to even risk the chance of doing so at all.
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obsidianfury said:
Hence why the only ROM I have flashed was cm10.1 I am having in call volume issues and why I took to posting my first question and then this one. I am looking for a rom with at least sense 4.1 and jellybean with proper call volumes and working lte. I don't understand the hostilities I am sorry I do read the post but I don't have the money to replace my phone if I brick it or it becomes unresponsive or bricks and the only way some can truly learn is to read and then talk and ask questions to those who knows what they are doing
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NO jelly bean build will have in call volume fixed. look in the development thread for sense 4.1 roms There is only one in there and one posted in the vivid general section. Everyone stop arguing and go about your business
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Even so I'm sure you would agree you wouldn't want to even risk the chance of doing so at all.
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If that were the case... I'd still have sense 3.6 on here...
I'm a bad example... I'll flash anything as long as I have the RUU handy...
I am quite surprised that this phone isn't in Qualcomm download mode
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It took me almost a year and a half to get the courage to root my phone.
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you know everyone has asked questions at one point or another and that goes for devs as well, if not then they wouldn't be devs period,they would , just sit back and wait for someone else to create roms for htc vivid,htc amaze,samsung, etc,so please give the guy a break
I'm new to using these roms also and quite frankly agree with the OP in asking.
Some of the threads are messed up and crazy that just simply asking for ppls opinions as a whole is better with having civil and constructive answers.
But good to see that there are keyboard warriors in these forums as well.
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I took to rooting/flashing a little different. My Vivid was my first smartphone ever (2nd phone period), but I had it unlocked, s-off'd, flashed a recovery and was running a custom ROM within 1 hour of un-packaging it. This was before any toolkit existed. I took a chance and learned by doing things. Over the last 2yrs I've read more on this forum than any normal person should, and yet still when I have a question, I either read some more or just say to hell with it and go for it and find out for myself. Modern phones are near impossible to brick but I will admit that although I never had to use it, the first thing I downloaded was the stock RUU. Always have a fallback and just bite the bullet. If you don't like the ROM, let the dev know your issues or research a new one. But most importantly, have fun with it! :good:
I see the forum titled "HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity" but all the subforums mention Vivid only which led me to this question since after some time searching inside the forum the answer still isn't clear to me. I hope this topic can be of use to others.
Thanks in advance.
They are interchangeable for everything but RUU's unless you are s-off with supercid
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Can you explain it without technical jargon? Thank you.
No... That's as simple as it gets...
And... If you're not sure what those terms mean... You have some reading to do before you start flashing your phone...
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No... That's as simple as it gets...
And... If you're not sure what those terms mean... You have some reading to do before you start flashing your phone...
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I have been flashing my phones for years, I was thinking of buying and HTC but apparently everyone here is so kind that I already moved on with the idea. Of course it makes a lot of sense to make the important information for HTC beginners (because, after all, you're mentioning things HTC-specific since this isn't how all the other brands work) spread across dozens of posts in dozens of threads instead of in one simple place, for someone to do the reading you suggest. Best regards
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I have been flashing my phones for years, I was thinking of buying and HTC but apparently everyone here is so kind that I already moved on with the idea. Of course it makes a lot of sense to make the important information for HTC beginners (because, after all, you're mentioning things HTC-specific since this isn't how all the other brands work) spread across dozens of posts in dozens of threads instead of in one simple place, for someone to do the reading you suggest. Best regards
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Pretty easy to find: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521157
Called Important threads for: HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity
esloan said:
Pretty easy to find: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521157
Called Important threads for: HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity
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I've been there, please quote the place where my question was answered and the terms "RUU's", "s-off" and supercid are explained.
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I've been there, please quote the place where my question was answered and the terms "RUU's", "s-off" and supercid are explained.
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The thread labeled 'Superguide'
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The thread labeled 'Superguide'
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I don't see the explanation for the terms there, if you do please be so kind to quote it.
No... This isn't xda-spoonfeeders...
Use Google... Use the search feature... Learn something
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No... This isn't xda-spoonfeeders...
Use Google... Use the search feature... Learn something
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It isn't xda-usegoogle as well. With your reasoning, XDA would serve nothing since you could probably find the same content somewhere else using google.
The fact is that the information just isn't there and me, as many people, probably will leave the idea of buying such a device if they can't find that kind of information without searching for days.
If your intention is not to share knowledge, you have no place in a forum like this.
I will try to help, because the OP asked the questions pretty clearly and politely (and wasn't like some of the posts on here - "hurrr how do i root my phone, tell me now kthx"). I also agree that having info scattered everywhere is not the easiest for people to navigate. And let's face it - not every post in this forum is crystal clear for all. Once the info/methods/files have been established, what is the harm in trying to put it all together? I enjoy the hunt for the information - That's why I've kept a file/info archive for every phone I've messed with.
Custom ROMs should work between all 3 (Vivid/Raider/Holiday). I don't believe any custom roms have been made specifically for one model.
RUU's will not. An RUU is a stock rom. It contains all of the stock partitions like radio, system, etc.). It pretty much returns a phone to stock (based on whatever carrier it is for, I believe - so carrier bloatware will be included). I believe that if you have unlocked the bootloader (for whatever reason), an RUU will refuse to flash. The bootloader will need to be re-locked in order for you to be able to flash the RUU.
When the RUU is run, it checks the "CID" of your phone. If your "CID" doesn't match the RUU , it will likely refuse to flash. You probably don't want to flash random RUU's to your phone anyway. But if you live on the edge you can change the CID of your phone. I think it's like... 1111111 or something. This is called the "SuperCID" - any Vivid/Raider/Holiday RUU will flash. At your own risk, of course! I remember doing SuperCID on my Bell HTC Raider, so I could flash the Rogers RUU to it. There are barely any differences between our 2 main carriers in Canada, so it flashed and worked fine for me.
To change your CID - I believe you will have to have the ultimate access to your phone (meaning, S-OFF your phone). Your phone will be open to flashing pretty much any code to any partition, and it will be easy to brick if you flash something inappropriate.
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I will try to help, because the OP asked the questions pretty clearly and politely (and wasn't like some of the posts on here - "hurrr how do i root my phone, tell me now kthx"). I also agree that having info scattered everywhere is not the easiest for people to navigate. And let's face it - not every post in this forum is crystal clear for all. Once the info/methods/files have been established, what is the harm in trying to put it all together? I enjoy the hunt for the information - That's why I've kept a file/info archive for every phone I've messed with.
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THANK YOU! Finally someone with good judgement. I don't usually do this but since you took the time to elaborate such a clear and thought through answer I'd like to take some time to thank you in writing. I did not like the way the thread was going, in fact I regret the spam created and fear that it won't promote the very useful content you have just provided. I'll try to get in touch with staff to try and get this done and in the meantime if you're more familiar with the process I encourage you to do the same, thanking you in advance for that aswell. I hope the community can benefit from threads like this and encourage everyone to share and clarify other terms if they feel like so.
Cheers!
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No... This isn't xda-spoonfeeders...
Use Google... Use the search feature... Learn something
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This point is valid
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It isn't xda-usegoogle as well. With your reasoning, XDA would serve nothing since you could probably find the same content somewhere else using google.
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While you have been decent about your inquire, you are incorrect on your assumption of XDA.
This was created as a Development site. While over time we have added sections such as Q&A, it has never been based on answering users questions.
BTW, when I searched Google this was the second hit using the criteria of your OP
Now that this has been answered. I have close the thread.