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T-mobile G1 Pre-paid

currectly im using a tmobile g1 with sk prepaid plan and cyan...does anyone know if boost mobile or virgin mobile work and what the limitations are i know the sk doesnt let you connect to im based apps

dorio9 said:
currectly im using a tmobile g1 with sk prepaid plan and cyan...does anyone know if boost mobile or virgin mobile work and what the limitations are i know the sk doesnt let you connect to im based apps
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no because boost and virgin dont use the samn signal

The G1 radio is hard coded to run off of the signals that TMO uses, so it WILL work on other carriers, but you wont have 3G access.
Secondly, TMO fixed the SK loophole a long time ago. Your best bet would be to upgrade to the G1 prepaid plan and you'll have full functionality. IIRC, it's only 5 bucks more.

I am using the sidekick prepaid plan right now, and I can only browse the internet with opera mini right now and are you sure we can just get the g1 prepaid plan for an extra 5 dollars a month because i would do that in a heartbeat. I think in order to get the g1 data plan you need a voice plan too, correct me if I am wrong.

GaLion said:
I am using the sidekick prepaid plan right now, and I can only browse the internet with opera mini right now and are you sure we can just get the g1 prepaid plan for an extra 5 dollars a month because i would do that in a heartbeat. I think in order to get the g1 data plan you need a voice plan too, correct me if I am wrong.
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There is not a G1 prepaid plan, You need a regular or Flexpay account to correctly use a G1 and to add G1 services to any account.

so if i use a flexpay, do i need to add a voiceplan on it? if i do then I'm just gonig to continue using my sk plan

Can I unlock an HTC Pure to bypass the $30/month data charge?

I just got an HTC Pure from AT&T but did not get a new SIM card or plan. I am planning to unlock the device to bypass the $30 per month charge for a data plan.
I currently am using an unlocked T-Mobile Dash (HTC S620) on AT&T's network.
I was wondering if there was any way to buy the $10 per month per phone data plan for myself, my brother, and my mom, then switch my SIM card to the unlocked Pure and have AT&T not recognize the new device.
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Could I simply switch the SIM card without unlocking and still get the $10 per month per phone data plan?

my friend if i can do so i would have done that long ago and gotten me a pure, but att and htc made plans that all 850 phones belongs to att. when u insert the sim into the phone no matter what the IMEI from the pure gets identified and the plan get switched over automatically.
only way to bypass that is by changing the IMEI of the phone, which is illegal and i dont know if it can be done

are you 100% sure? because I've gotten mixed answers between you, Yahoo Answers, and AT&T themselves

ATT said no??, yahoo said??? i say no
i know some ppl have gotten away with it by upgrading to a pure and stayed with the $10 data plan.
so if u would like to risk it go ahead

Actually the guy at AT&T said it may work. Yahoo said it did. I'm confused. What's the risk if I do get the data plan? Can I switch back to my old phone and get it taken off?

the risk i am talking about the automatic data plan activation, i have asked almost every ATT in miami if there is a way to get around it i have gotten the same answer NO

hmm, ok.
thanks for your help, I'm gonna go into an ATT store tomorrow to see if they can do anything. but I know what answer to expect now

They do not change your plan automatically.
I have had a HTC TILT, HTC FUZE, and am now with my HTC PURE.
I have the ATT data plan for 9.99 unlimited.
All I did was switch my sim to any ATT non PDA phone. Call att, have them add this feature. Then just slap on my sim on my HTC device.
That simple, have been doing it for years and even to my most recent bill I still have the 9.99 Media net plan.

cobo10201 said:
I just got an HTC Pure from AT&T but did not get a new SIM card or plan. I am planning to unlock the device to bypass the $30 per month charge for a data plan.
I currently am using an unlocked T-Mobile Dash (HTC S620) on AT&T's network.
I was wondering if there was any way to buy the $10 per month per phone data plan for myself, my brother, and my mom, then switch my SIM card to the unlocked Pure and have AT&T not recognize the new device.
OR
Could I simply switch the SIM card without unlocking and still get the $10 per month per phone data plan?
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Multiple posts won't win you any friends!

TheChemist187 said:
They do not change your plan automatically.
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Yes. They do. I have experienced this with the iphone. I put my sim into an iphone and my plan changed to iphone data plan. I had to call ATT, tell them that I was just checking it out, and got it changed back.
TheChemist187 said:
I have had a HTC TILT, HTC FUZE, and am now with my HTC PURE.
I have the ATT data plan for 9.99 unlimited.
All I did was switch my sim to any ATT non PDA phone. Call att, have them add this feature. Then just slap on my sim on my HTC device.
That simple, have been doing it for years and even to my most recent bill I still have the 9.99 Media net plan.
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I had a LG-VU with the $9.99 data plan.
I upgraded to the HTC Pure. When the box arrived, the first thing I did was to open the phone and remove the new sim that they had inserted into the phone. I put my old sim from the LG-VU and fired up the phone.
It is 3 months now and my data plan is still $9.99.

I been having the $9.99 plan since july and I have the HTC pure. My plan is 4 years old though and I started with a razr.

If you have an ooooold plan that you got through an offer or whatever.....then you are ok....new plans from about three years and before....you want to theter (without the 60 dollar plan) get ready for a 2k plus bill. Been there years ago. Not worth it

after 6 months with the phone, you can cancel data and even have them put a data block
or so i've been told, but unlocking wont allow you to remove it, you're breaking the contract that got you the phone for cheap (or free in my case)

can some1 explain to me wtf this is all about?
If i have a, let's say a Tmobile contract (or any other, AT&T, Vodafone, etc) and i am using "x" phone with this contract....and i buy a new phone, which is different, then why am i not allowed to just change phones? coz that seems to be your guys problem, correct?
are u stuck on one phone for your whole contract? and if u change to, say a better phone, they up your contract price?!?!?!?!? that's HARD to swallow over here in europe... but is that the case?

I have spent countless hours of research here and at howard forums. They will auto switch your plan if you have a Nexus one or a ATT branded smartphone. You would have to get a T-Mobile branded smartphone butt you will loose 3G or get a unbranded smartphone imported which will cost you a lot of mulah. I was looking at getting at HD2 form Australia so I can get the 850 band (3G) but that was selling for 600-800 bucks.
Good luck with your quest young one.

try this... keep an old basic phone lying around and IF they ever DO switch it, call AT&T (USING THE OLDER PHONE!!!) and tell them you borrowed a friends phone for a few weeks while yours was broken and to verify that you are no longer using a "smartphone" and to drop it back down to $10/mo. They should only do random sweeps and this might happen once every few months... Works for me!!

i tried doing the switch back to a non smart phone technique, yet everyday i would get a text saying att has upped my plan to a smart phone one, so now im out 20 bucks , same with iphone, although you could unlock it to get a 10 dollar plan

I guess I'm lucky then. When I called to get internet for my At&t 8525 (about 3 years ago) I asked for an unlimited plan. The representative added a $15 plan. Since then, I've upgraded to a Tilt and now I'm on a HTC Pure with the same plan.

Even with an unlocked iPhone they are still able to add the $30 plan, that is exactly what they did to me. It has to do with the ATT sim card not the phone itself.

chikoo said:
Yes. They do. I have experienced this with the iphone. I put my sim into an iphone and my plan changed to iphone data plan. I had to call ATT, tell them that I was just checking it out, and got it changed back.
I had a LG-VU with the $9.99 data plan.
I upgraded to the HTC Pure. When the box arrived, the first thing I did was to open the phone and remove the new sim that they had inserted into the phone. I put my old sim from the LG-VU and fired up the phone.
It is 3 months now and my data plan is still $9.99.
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Update:
ATT has now automatically switched me to the $30 data plan, for my convenience (ha!).
I took out the SIM and put it in another "feature" phone and I was given the option to use the $9.99 plan.
I selected that and switched the SIM back to the ATT Pure.
Guess what?
For my "convenience", ATT switched me back to the $30 data plan.

[EDIT: SOLVED!] Switching From HD2 to Nexus One

Because my HTC HD2 requires the "Smartphone Data Plan" and the Nexus One requires the "Android Data Plan" I need to switch.
I am trading the HTC HD2 for a Nexus and was wondering about the following:
1. Will there be any charges for doing this?
2. Will there be a fee for switching data plans
3. How should I go about switching from the HD2 to the Nexus One?
4. Will T-Mobile allow me to do this? I bought the HD2 with the instant discount for upgrading to a smartphone.
I am currently on a even more family plan
EDIT: Solved! Thread can be closed.

I'm not really understanding your first statement.
There are pretty much 2 ways to go about this. First, if you get a refund on the HD2, there will be a 15% restocking fee.
1) Buy the N1 for full price from Google.
2) Buy on Craigslist (got mine for under $400 lightly used and I see a few going for around $300 in my area currently)
As I understand it, you can't remove data when you're under contract but you can change it. They're both $30 I think..

hiddengopher said:
Because my HTC HD2 requires the "Smartphone Data Plan" and the Nexus One requires the "Android Data Plan" I need to switch.
I am trading the HTC HD2 for a Nexus and was wondering about the following:
1. Will there be any charges for doing this?
2. Will there be a fee for switching data plans
3. How should I go about switching from the HD2 to the Nexus One?
4. Will T-Mobile allow me to do this? I bought the HD2 with the instant discount for upgrading to a smartphone.
I am currently on a even more family plan
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Don't worry..T-mobile doesn't care as long as u don't cancel ur contract. Just give then a call and they'll switch u over right away.

hiddengopher said:
Because my HTC HD2 requires the "Smartphone Data Plan" and the Nexus One requires the "Android Data Plan" I need to switch.
I am trading the HTC HD2 for a Nexus and was wondering about the following:
1. Will there be any charges for doing this?
2. Will there be a fee for switching data plans
3. How should I go about switching from the HD2 to the Nexus One?
4. Will T-Mobile allow me to do this? I bought the HD2 with the instant discount for upgrading to a smartphone.
I am currently on a even more family plan
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Is the only reason you are switching is because of the data plan? Aren't the two the same price?
Either way, sign up for the $10 web2go and change your APN to internet2.voicestream.com Then you get $10 internet on the HD2.

Hey bro, kinda out of topic here, but I keep hearing this web2go and internet2.voicestream.com, isnt this limited? can you surf the net like you can with the 24$ unlimited data plan that T-Mo have?
Is it true that you are limited to 2g when you have tzone or web2go? I hear different stories from different people, so I wonder if you know the facts about this?
Thanks in advance.
HotShotAzn said:
Is the only reason you are switching is because of the data plan? Aren't the two the same price?
Either way, sign up for the $10 web2go and change your APN to internet2.voicestream.com Then you get $10 internet on the HD2.
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rjhay22 said:
Hey bro, kinda out of topic here, but I keep hearing this web2go and internet2.voicestream.com, isnt this limited? can you surf the net like you can with the 24$ unlimited data plan that T-Mo have?
Is it true that you are limited to 2g when you have tzone or web2go? I hear different stories from different people, so I wonder if you know the facts about this?
Thanks in advance.
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I have full access and my phone says 3G/H so unless I'm on the 3G band but throttled to edge speeds (doubtful), I'm pretty confident I'm on full unrestricted 3G.
The trick is getting web2go on your account. Log into mytmobile and change your phone to a Samsung Gravity, add web2go, and you're done.

You cant own both devices with the same data plan?

gtrplr71 said:
You cant own both devices with the same data plan?
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TMo does IMEI checks to see what device you are using. They're pretty strict about Android devices although i've heard if you use a N1 you bought contract free, you can use the APN trick.

HotShotAzn said:
TMo does IMEI checks to see what device you are using. They're pretty strict about Android devices although i've heard if you use a N1 you bought contract free, you can use the APN trick.
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Can you point me in the right direction on where to look for this trick?

I don't have an Android in front of me so I can't walk you through that but once you find the internet settings, change the APN to:
internet2.voicestream.com
and you are set to go. Make sure you have Web2Go on your account (see my post above).

I already have android unlimited I want to use the hd2 as a second device. is that possible?

gtrplr71 said:
I already have android unlimited I want to use the hd2 as a second device. is that possible?
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from what I've read, yes.

I am assuming this is what I do buy the hd2 activate smartphone data plan
go to tmo.com change phone to gravity add web2go get on my nexus mod apn to internet2voicestream.com is this correct I would like to own both at 48.99 I have to try it

Data plan help

I'm thinking about buying a used htc tilt on ebay and using it with att, but can I keep my 15 dollar "dumbphone" data plan or do I need to upgrade my plan to the 30 dollar "smartphone" plan? I checked on wireless.att.com and theres not mention of the tilt needing the more expensive-r plan. Any experience from current users would be really useful though.

The Chenizzle said:
I'm thinking about buying a used htc tilt on ebay and using it with att, but can I keep my 15 dollar "dumbphone" data plan or do I need to upgrade my plan to the 30 dollar "smartphone" plan? I checked on wireless.att.com and theres not mention of the tilt needing the more expensive-r plan. Any experience from current users would be really useful though.
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If you sign up for a data plan it will have to be the 30 dollar smartphone plan. There is no way around it.

Not sure about the 8925. I got by with it with my 8525 though with no issues though. Tried the trick with the 8925 and tmobile stopped it saying my phone wasn't compatible with thier data plan. So naturally I upgrade to the $30 a month data plan and turns out Tmobile 3g is the worst in the world. Litterally. You can only use a tmobile branded phone on their 3G. So I'm going back to Atnt in a couple weeks. I'll let you know if it works. I'm gonna hook it up as a razr then switch out the sims.

maxpower097 said:
Not sure about the 8925. I got by with it with my 8525 though with no issues though. Tried the trick with the 8925 and tmobile stopped it saying my phone wasn't compatible with thier data plan. So naturally I upgrade to the $30 a month data plan and turns out Tmobile 3g is the worst in the world. Litterally. You can only use a tmobile branded phone on their 3G. So I'm going back to Atnt in a couple weeks. I'll let you know if it works. I'm gonna hook it up as a razr then switch out the sims.
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The network will recognize the phone as a Tilt and you will automatically be put on the $30 data plan

The Chenizzle said:
I'm thinking about buying a used htc tilt on ebay and using it with att, but can I keep my 15 dollar "dumbphone" data plan or do I need to upgrade my plan to the 30 dollar "smartphone" plan? I checked on wireless.att.com and theres not mention of the tilt needing the more expensive-r plan. Any experience from current users would be really useful though.
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I am still on MediaMax plan from back in the day. It is a plan they no longer offer that is unlimited data (on the wap network) and 200 Text messages.
Only $20.00 per month. I got grandfathered in before all this new Data Plan nonsense came into play.
Just don't connect to [email protected]
No one at ATT ever told me I had to change it, (I didn't really ask either) and I have spoken with them several times about other phones on my account.

Here we go on the data plan merry go round
Here comes your $15 data plan
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...lan-prices-ends-unlimited-offer-update3-.html

Can you use this phone w/o dataplan?

i have wifi everywhere. no need for dataplan.
are there parts of the droid OS that absolutely requires buying a 3g data plan for some strange reason or another? everywhere i am there is already wifi.

JediFonger said:
i have wifi everywhere. no need for dataplan.
are there parts of the droid OS that absolutely requires buying a 3g data plan for some strange reason or another? everywhere i am there is already wifi.
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I think a data plan is required... perhaps at first. My parents recently bought a phone from T-mo & they needed to sign up for a data plan, but only for the first month- then they complained that they don't even know how to use it to a CS agent in a phone conversation & the plan was removed. However, being that it's 4g, I'm not certain if there's a mandatory charge (like Sprint does w/ its 4g Evo).
Edit: Another option is if this was a retail purchase & not via a contract w/ the provider. Simply slip the sim card in the 2x & your minute plan moves into your new phone (assuming there was no prior data plan)... am I correct?

JediFonger said:
i have wifi everywhere. no need for dataplan.
are there parts of the droid OS that absolutely requires buying a 3g data plan for some strange reason or another? everywhere i am there is already wifi.
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Dataplan is not required, wifi is enough.

juhar1 said:
Dataplan is not required, wifi is enough.
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I wish it were always up to the consumer but that's not true. You are by contract (if you purchase the phone via contract) to have a data plan. Most of us will be forced to do this, very few can get away with it.

fen_nyc said:
I wish it were always up to the consumer but that's not true. You are by contract (if you purchase the phone via contract) to have a data plan. Most of us will be forced to do this, very few can get away with it.
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Yeah but that was not the case here? Question was that if you can use O2X without data plan or not.
e: And I understand from the OP's post that it's not required to take data plan with phone.

juhar1 said:
Yeah but that was not the case here? Question was that if you can use O2X without data plan or not.
e: And I understand from the OP's post that it's not required to take data plan with phone.
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Yeah, you're right.
OP, the Android OS has an wifi adapter integrated & you can use your phone w/ out a data plan.
But apart from buying this phone off contract, you'll be obligated to have a monthly data plan.

i've had a HTC hermes for 4 yrs now w/o dataplan. somehow i got ATT to pay for it AND still don't have to pay for dataplan. i know it's different now
my current phone is dying and when it does, i plan to go w/this X2 phone. i would have liked HTC to have had the tegra2 chipset... but ce la vie =P
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/18/t-mobile-g-slate-and-g2x-dual-core-smartphone-coming-on-april-20/
^anyways, what i plan to do is either:
-do the contract, then pay early termination fee. if the phone was $200 and early term. fee is $300, that's still $500-600 range. i hear this phone will be $600-700 range.
-but if hte phone was $500-ish by itself w/o contract, then i'd probably just freakin' buy the phone.
either way will be better than paying dataplan for 2 years. $30/mo*24months=$720.
just wanted to know if i do get this, that the droid OS can turn off any 3g stuff. i'll also have tmo block it as well, no dataplan. thank.s

JediFonger, I recall hearing users buying this phone w/out a minute plan as well. Weird, I know. Why? Well, obviously for its surfing via wifi but, there is a app somewhere (I don't know too much about it) where you can use the 2x to broadcast as a wireless network. Pretty neat!

technically any wifi device can re-broadcast itself adhoc. one just needs the proper program >) hopefully i can get 1 minus dataplans.

just got G2x and 2GB plan... i have 3G Watchdog & apnthingy to turn it off if i hit certain limits. i'm still good with wifi, hardly using the 2GB

JediFonger said:
i have wifi everywhere. no need for dataplan.
are there parts of the droid OS that absolutely requires buying a 3g data plan for some strange reason or another? everywhere i am there is already wifi.
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Of course you can.
Android OS offers a simple menu with a check-box that lets you switch all data transfer off (2G/3G). This does not switch off WiFi data.
You then have a regular phone with calls, short messages and WiFi which does not cause any data transfer costs.
You only need a mobile phone contract without fix data fees.

Silly Americans
Most phones in the EU don't have sim lock on and we can buy then unlocked straight from the carrier. On the downside, we pay nearly 2.5 X more than you do for phones :/