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Is there ever a stable ROM for DS?

I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?

I'd suggest downgrading to the engineering spl, downgrading to rc29 and then waiting for the official OTA to get back to the official ROM.
that's the only STABLE rom out there. the rest is put together, but I personally don't care as I like to make fun of my friends who bought the N1 because they said the g1 would never see froyo.

Living on the edge has it's costs
considering that you're probably using a G1 and I use first gen MT3G and the rate at which new improved phones are coming out in these quick and disposable times, I think it is absolutely amazing that we can stick with new phones, try out there interfaces before they're even released. You're not hacking and I'm not hacking hardcore, but we get faux hack thanks to work of all these people who aren't making a dime on these roms. All lot of these people start like you and me and by flashing learn more and more about these phones. For example, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that you can go about using superuser terminal, which is thanks to quite a few people who made it possible for noobs to root their phone in the first place, anyways, in terminal you can decide how much priority you give to the phone apk. Google it. Hell there's a guy on the sapphire forum who's give instructions on how to build your own stock froyo so you can tweak it however you want, check it out, I'm thinking about it.
I was diehard nokia fan up until they sold me a n95 that had 3g, just not here and told me there was nothing they could do about it. I thought their system was open....geez it was nothing compared to this android thing.
the one thing that bites my a** here is seeing response to roms where people have lost focus of important things like manners. I'm not saying this is you, but check it out. Guy like Chrome or such, works super hard releasing a rom every other day and somebody chimes in, wifi doesn't work, or camera is force closing, not a daily driver, I flashing back....What? I mean, how about a thanks for chance to check out something new or hey, how about asking why it might not work and learning the process. Think about it, these guys got to have a day job, cause they ain't making it selling roms or monitoring forums to teach some guy how to flash, but they do it and they don't complain. Very rare to find this kinda service today or even yesterday.
Welcome to the community and learn something about why your phone with a certain rom isn't functioning perfectly, I think you'll be glad you did.

Are you kidding me, how picky are you gonna be? Especially since we are still getting support for the G1. Maybe you would be better off with an iphone. I'm rockin CM6 and damn proud of it.
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a little peculiar,i admit. cyanogen did and does great job.
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I normally flash on a daily basis just for fun and I can tell there are many roms that can be used as a daily rom and stable
one of them is "Eclair" "Super D" for me everything I need is working and fast
there is also a Froyo Rom by LefeuDeDieu that work fast and stable
for 1.6 I found super E the fastest
so I would say You haven't found the right set up for your phone and your needs

Try cyas 6.0 (froyo 2.2) RC1 with the new gapps (FRF91-3).... it flys for me if you don't install too many apps and is very stable (in my opinion more stable than cyas 5.x). If you pump it with apps the internal memory gets low, no matter how much you move to sd or clear the cache (due to the froyo apps2sd method). You can try too get things better with setcpu (compcache made things worse for me), but with too much load cyas 6.0 turns very slow for me.
/edit ... with Firerats CustomParitions (solving the froyo apps2sd low memory issue) and the CM6 Build from studjuce (using launcherpro instead of adw) its as fast as hell :O even faster than Clay's CSDI ... oh man i guess i have a new daily driver :>
For donut (1.6) i prefer HTCClay's CSDI REMIX, which runs stupid fast no matter how much apps you install on your sd-ext. I personally found it faster than Super D / E. This is my daily driver since i randomly use Cyas 6.0.
I assume you have danger SPL since you installed cyas 5x. (if not ... beware )

Originalnexisone said:
considering that you're probably using a G1 and I use first gen MT3G and the rate at which new improved phones are coming out in these quick and disposable times, I think it is absolutely amazing that we can stick with new phones, try out there interfaces before they're even released. You're not hacking and I'm not hacking hardcore, but we get faux hack thanks to work of all these people who aren't making a dime on these roms. All lot of these people start like you and me and by flashing learn more and more about these phones. For example, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that you can go about using superuser terminal, which is thanks to quite a few people who made it possible for noobs to root their phone in the first place, anyways, in terminal you can decide how much priority you give to the phone apk. Google it. Hell there's a guy on the sapphire forum who's give instructions on how to build your own stock froyo so you can tweak it however you want, check it out, I'm thinking about it.
I was diehard nokia fan up until they sold me a n95 that had 3g, just not here and told me there was nothing they could do about it. I thought their system was open....geez it was nothing compared to this android thing.
the one thing that bites my a** here is seeing response to roms where people have lost focus of important things like manners. I'm not saying this is you, but check it out. Guy like Chrome or such, works super hard releasing a rom every other day and somebody chimes in, wifi doesn't work, or camera is force closing, not a daily driver, I flashing back....What? I mean, how about a thanks for chance to check out something new or hey, how about asking why it might not work and learning the process. Think about it, these guys got to have a day job, cause they ain't making it selling roms or monitoring forums to teach some guy how to flash, but they do it and they don't complain. Very rare to find this kinda service today or even yesterday.
Welcome to the community and learn something about why your phone with a certain rom isn't functioning perfectly, I think you'll be glad you did.
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Wow I gues you're tying to impress, being a newbie and all, but that's one aweome post... only part I don't get is the "welcome to the forums" in the last paragraph...

paaaaan said:
I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
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Yes. Unroot your phone and get the official updates from t-mobile, sprint, etc. Problem solved, too easy...

paaaaan said:
I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
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OP,
I am sorry for the flames you're receiving for asking a legitimate question. People on this board automatically make the assumption that users only want to use leading edge software. Xda has become very mainstream nowadays. News Media is driving everyday users here who just want an improved experience, but who dont necessarily understand the complexities of development. Does that mean they are not welcome? Absolutely not.
To answer your question, a rom based off donut or eclair will give you the results you are looking for. I specifically use zd donut 1.8 "got donut? " rom(ignore my signature)..... it is fast and stable. But so are the super e and supper d series roms. GivE them a go, you will be thankful. But every now and then flash a new rom just to check it out.
Good luck

Just my 2 cents
I am in the same boat, I like trying out new things but I need my phone for everyday use, that's why I picked up a spare G1 with cracked screen for less then $50 and use it to try out new stuff (currently CM6). My main driver - Super-D 1.9.3, the last stable version that you can actually call stable. I also removed whole bunch of stuff that I don't ever use and added some visual enhancements (clear settings widget, MusicMod, ADW latest launcher). Man, thant thing flyes and not a single FC in over 3 months.
All in all, it's inevitable that most of us will get new phones and these "improvements" will be oushined by stock roms but in the mean time be thankfull for what you get (for free!!!!) and learn enough to customize any rom to the point that it fits your needs.

Somebody else pointed this out earlier, but I'm gonna bring it up again. We're lucky to even have support for 2.1 on D/S. It's not meant for our devices and, yah, there are going to be some bugs, considering it was meant for a different devices. The same goes (pretty much) double for 2.2. When I got my Dream, I didn't imagine we would/could get past 1.6. I was freaking out when I got Eclair for the first time. Now we're on Froyo, same version as the N1, and (for me, at least) it's running better than Donut ever was for me.
While I do agree that we don't have many completely stable roms nowadays, I'm also grateful that we have developers like Cyanogen who still care about the lower income (I say that because I justt don't have the funds to purchase a higher end Android phone as of right now, and I suspect that may be the reason many other people have invested in one either) public enough to keep putting out solid, functional roms.
Count your blessings.

enomther "theofficial" roms are super stable.Keep coming back to them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456&highlight=enomther

paaaaan said:
I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
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Here's my top choices of roms that ive found to be extremely fast
and stable as heck.
Donut Roms: 1st choice - Htcclay's superbad/superfast
2nd choice - SuperD.
Eclair Roms: 3rd choice - Chromatic 3.9.1
(Extremely fast and stable for a eclair rom but is nothing compared to those Donut roms.)

paaaaan said:
I cannot neglect a fact after i tried so many roms by cyanogen: no one rom is so stable for everyday use.
for 1.6 , the 4.2.15.1 is the last version ,but you must wait a long time to make a normal call ,it is not standale, and it also had a missing sms issue.
for 2.1, i do not know if there is still a updated version after 5.0.8. the camera issue is still there , and also i encounter 2 times cannot-bootup issue (only reflash the rom again).
cyanogen's work is awesome , but i think the stable rom is so important for normal use. IS THERE ANY ONE?
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Hey paaaaan!
I totally understand where you coming from, I (and probably many users here) have exactly the same problem. When i got my MT3G and first rooted it (more than a year and a half now) i was trying out a different ROM everyday, just polaying around and having fun. Cyan's ROM's never really worked out for me and i think i got a bit traumatised about it (although i recognize the invaluable contribution he's been to the Android community - it just couldn't possible be the same scene without him and Google should, if it hasn't already, recognize this fact. But after some time i started wanting to have a stable rom, just something that wouldn't hang out on me or lagged all the time - this was quite some time ago, mind you, the Hero sense ROMs were coming out for the first time and 1.6 had just been released. after many tries i stuck with Dwang's Donut build (no longer developed) which at the time was the fastest and most stable ROM i found. I stuck in my head that none of the latest versions of Android would run as smooth in my phone so i stayed with Dwang's (flashing it every month or so) until very recently actually.
I don't really remember why but i decided to give a go to the newest ROM's after reading so much praise for them in here... and i must confess i was really taken back by how far the development had come and what i had missed. I've tried Cannon202 Complete Eclair 2.2, Clay's SuperBad 1.6 & 1.7 and now on Chromatic 3.9.1 and i must say they all are stable enough for everyday use, according to my standards. Now, you must note that many times what makes the ROM unstable is not the ROM itself but how you flash it and how you fill it. I ALWAYS wipe completely before flashing a ROM - and don't just do a complete wipe in recovery but actually use fastboot to wipe the system as well. Another thing you must note is the amount of apps you throw at it, and how fast i do it. If i install or recover all my apps after install no ROM holds stable... instead i go installing them little by little, as i need them... i found out that with the exact same ROM this makes a HUGE difference! Also, after you flash, wait for it to settle down before you start configuring it... i normally also do one or two reboots before i start tweaking anything or installing apps. Compcache and swap never really worked for me so i don't use it (though i do have the SD partioned for that). SetCPU and the right configuration on the settings of the phone (try Chrome's post-boot set-up on his Cromatic thread) make a huge difference.
I must confess i really like Clay's SUPERBAD ROM (1.6 actually works better for me then 1.7) but it seems it has been discontinued, unfortunately; and i still haven't tried any Froyo build (waiting for it to mature, let some problems be solved.... nothing really in it that i can't live without); but i consider all Eclair ROM's i've tried based of Cyan's 5.0.8 perfect for everyday use. I mean, they are faster than the stock Vodafone ROM it came with the phone. Of course, you will have problems after a while and need to rewipe and reflash but that is exactly why you rooted your phone right?

[Q] What is the most popular Captivate ROM?

I just got a Captivate, and was wanting to root my phone (I have never rooted before). I wasn't sure what ROM to install. What is the most popular Captivate ROM?

DesignGears has the most popular ROMS. He is one of the few who actually has a "Captivate" ROM. Most seem to be building or revamping ROMS based Vibrant and i9000 ROMs kernels and modems.
Many developers come and go and leave their "projects" to someone else to continue, who may do the same..AXURA has traded hands three times in two months... He just keeps tickin and releasing ROMs..Some better than others. Axura and Assonance are great ROMs that were "taken over" by other than their original developers. But they are stable and very good and have a smaller but loyal following.
I like the popular ROMS because theme builders support the most popular ROMS as well so you have more choices as well in that arena. Have to warn you though. DGS threads are L O N G and there is little tolerance for questions that can be answered with a search. Axura and Assonance are friendlier for noobs. Read the "BEFORE YOU FLASH thread first and get the basics. KNOW what you are doing and WHY before you start flashing ROMS.
The Cappy is VERY hard to brick. But you should know how to get a frozen device back on track. The Axura FAQ is a good one as well.
Get Odin 1 click, learn how to put you phone in Download and recovery mode. Learn what Clockwork recovery is and how to get it installed. Allthose will save you butt at some time....WHEN you screw up. You can always take your phone back to stock and begin again. but you need to know how to get your phone in DOWNLOAD mode. Very important. And/or learn about adb commands from your PC to do the same.
I was scared to death flashing my first ROMS but no more. I just wait for others to flash first and read their comments before flashing so i save some time in case theire are major bugs.
If you like a ROM DONATE to the developer..

Cognition is the only all-Captivate project. There are lots of other nice ones, but to start I'd suggest restricting yourself to those using non-overclock kernels (yes you can swap later, but again... start simple). For everything but Cognition (now never OC) and Perception (explicitly OC and non-OC flavors), look for "xcaliburinhand", not "SetiroN".
Note that the i9000-based ROMs based on "JPX" or "JPY" (ytt3r's Darky and Jim's ports, borguesian's Doc port, Cezar's JPX i9000 stock port, and others) are using the latest Froyo version (2.2.1) available for any Galaxy S. JPY just came out, what, two days ago?

I'm running Perception 8 non oc/uv (i9000 rom). Build 9.5 didn't have the easy 2g/3g toggle which is a must for me.
P8 in a nutshell:
Mobile AP - Wifi tethering up to 5 devices
USB Tethering
Mobile Networks - 2G/3G Toggle
HSPA - High Speed Packet Access (I get around 2.5mb/s up/down - theoretical limit is 7mb/s)
Bluetooth Voice Dialing
Voodoo Lagfix (makes phone super fast)

Cognition/Perception

tbong777 said:
Some better than others. Axura and Assonance are great ROMs that were "taken over" by other than their original developers.
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That's not true. I've always been the developer of Assonance.

just personal preference in what you want in a Rom ..im a very visual person so it has to look good as well as be practical

Obviously it's
STOCK............I'd say about 97.6% of all Captivate users are on STOCK.

Moved to Q&A.

I like Paragon RC5.1 rom
I have flash Paragon RC5.1 and I really like. I like more if the circular battery in the status bar was green.

Phoenix Rising Roms have quite a good following, dedicated website, themes, options, quality updates regularly but not every couple days. havent even tried any others since i started using them. Donating soon...

I've really been liking the port of Darky's ROM.
I've tried most of the others, but it seems Perception is the most reliable?
There's strong/weak points through all ROMs, you just have to see if you like a certain bug more than another.

They are largely built off of the same source using the same tweaks. I have tried every one that is currently out at some time or another. some are better then others, but largely it is a matter of opinion. Try them all

Anyone Successful w/ROM-> Long Term, ie not constantly reloading?

I find that no matter what ROM I use, I have something that is a problem.
The most success I have had is with Serindipity. But, with that, and other 2.2.1 I9000 ROMs I have tried, after 2-3 weeks, I have the auto rotate fail. Nothing will fix it other than a flash back to stock 2.1, and then reflash of the 2.2.1 ROM. Not even a factory reset on the 2.2.1 ROM will work.
So, now I am trying UCKB1 ROM (stock 2.2 Froyo for Captivate), specifically Cognition. This one is pretty successful, except...modems are few, and I have constant problems with WiFi enabling with Tasker.
Those are the two issues that seem to haunt my phone.
What is your experience? Of course, if you don't use Tasker, maybe the WiFi issue won't be a problem for you.
I suppose the auto rotate could be a sensor trying to go out on my phone...but, EVERY time I do the reinstall of 2.1 it fixes it. So I have cannot replace the phone, and given that it always starts working, I'm not convinced it is a hardware issue.
And for those on 2.2.1, what I've seen generally is that most people putting these ROMS on are flashing addicts (I'm not saying that is a bad thing ), but I prefer to use the phone and not constantly flash. Too much other config to set up after flashing.
Oh, by the way, one fault I have is way too many apps installed. I delete some and then next thing you know I've installed others. Pretty much requires that I use an OC kernel, and I like to use UV for battery performance. Interestingly, I have been quite successful at 1400, and 1.5%/hour drain at idle, with WiFi, GPS, and BT on.

ewingr said:
I find that no matter what ROM I use, I have something that is a problem.
The most success I have had is with Serindipity. But, with that, and other 2.2.1 I9000 ROMs I have tried, after 2-3 weeks, I have the auto rotate fail. Nothing will fix it other than a flash back to stock 2.1, and then reflash of the 2.2.1 ROM. Not even a factory reset on the 2.2.1 ROM will work.
So, now I am trying UCKB1 ROM (stock 2.2 Froyo for Captivate), specifically Cognition. This one is pretty successful, except...modems are few, and I have constant problems with WiFi enabling with Tasker.
Those are the two issues that seem to haunt my phone.
What is your experience? Of course, if you don't use Tasker, maybe the WiFi issue won't be a problem for you.
I suppose the auto rotate could be a sensor trying to go out on my phone...but, EVERY time I do the reinstall of 2.1 it fixes it. So I have cannot replace the phone, and given that it always starts working, I'm not convinced it is a hardware issue.
And for those on 2.2.1, what I've seen generally is that most people putting these ROMS on are flashing addicts (I'm not saying that is a bad thing ), but I prefer to use the phone and not constantly flash. Too much other config to set up after flashing.
Oh, by the way, one fault I have is way too many apps installed. I delete some and then next thing you know I've installed others. Pretty much requires that I use an OC kernel, and I like to use UV for battery performance. Interestingly, I have been quite successful at 1400, and 1.5%/hour drain at idle, with WiFi, GPS, and BT on.
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I've been on a phoenix 4.5 for a while, and I'm pretty happy with it right now. I should probly update it though.

To be honest... every single ROM (minus one or two random tries) in this forum are worth keeping, imo.
They all have their pros and cons, but they're all well made.
I never make it more than like 3 weeks (and that was on CM7 lol) without flashing because I'm an addict, but there are a lot of stable ROM's
A few I really like:
Phoenix
Serendipity
Continuum
There are many others, but you get the idea!
Regards
Smith

longest i was on Darky's 8.0..for 2 months...then CM7 for 3 weeks....lol...but almost all 2.2.1 roms are stable to stick on one for long time..

erm, the best 2.2 one ive been on is serendipity . It simply does everything...
When i decided to move onto 2.3, i used MIUI (Still using it)

Yes, my expectations are that all the roms are 'great'. But, as noted, I have not had ANY that don't end up with problems, as outlined above. Other problems, depending on which ROM, and kernel combination, is Blue Tooth voice dialing. Again, I'm looking for someone using them successfully long term.
I'm hearing people like sames ones I have tried, plus one or two.
What is strange is the issues I outlined above that I continue to have. May be related to my hardware...don't know. Will be interesting to see if anyone posts that indicates having same problems, and even better, having conquered them either with specific ROM or a fix.
Thanks. I'll continue to watch this thread, and will likely try a different ROM.

Over 6 weeks on Andromeda and no issues. Smoothest, most stable ROM available for the Cappy IMHO.

Did you try performing a horizontal calibration when auto rotate stopped working?
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mrhaley30705 said:
Did you try performing a horizontal calibration when auto rotate stopped working?
Sent from a place my wife doesn't know about
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Yes, I believe so. It indicated no sensor or something. But it has not been around 3 weeks since moving to 2.2, and it hasn't happened again. If it does, I will be sure to do that again.
If this continues to work w/o Auto Rotate problems, I may end up putting 2.2.1 back on, and see what happens.

I tried everything with the same reservations--the odd bug and amateur hour theming.
Until Andromeda. No bugs ; stock UI. Haven't flashed anything in 2 months.

No phone are created equal(hardware limitations) and may react differently with different types of rom or kernel but so far my phone likes paragon rc6 even with 1400mhz kernel and faster mount in ext4 my phone is pretty stable. With other rom with the same clock speed it is not as fast and stable as paragon. So flash any rom out there until your phone meet its match.

gorgy76 said:
No phone are created equal(hardware limitations) and may react differently with different types of rom or kernel but so far my phone likes paragon rc6 even with 1400mhz kernel and faster mount in ext4 my phone is pretty stable. With other rom with the same clock speed it is not as fast and stable as paragon. So flash any rom out there until your phone meet its match.
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I've been on dillis rom for about 3 months straight. I tried cm6 a while ago and I think I tried cognition the first time I flashed but dillis is just so simple, stripped and speedy. awesome GPS too(huge for me) and batt life exceeds a day(even more huge). however, themes and fluff arent my thing. I don't think I'm the only dilli fan with this opinion.
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Good feedback everybody. I may experiment with one, or more, of the ROMS discussed here.
At the moment, I not sure how long I've been on my current ROM (Cognition 4.2.1), but at the moment, my issues may be working out.
The WiFi issue is improved since doing a clear of cache and Dalvik cache. We'll see how that goes.
The Auto Rotate, so far, has not messed up.
The one nagging thing at the moment is my notification volume constantly changes back to very low. Not sure what is causing that.
I've seen a couple votes for Andromeda. I was looking in that thread a few days ago, and even the change log (didn't read top to bottom extensively) and I could not find what it is based on; what kernel it is using; or modem. Of course kernel and modem would be changeable, but I would like to know what base it is on.
Again, my goal is to find something working well; performing well. Its interesting that after starting this thread, my 'issues' seem close to resolved based on what I'm running. Want to give it more time.

ewingr said:
I've seen a couple votes for Andromeda. I was looking in that thread a few days ago, and even the change log (didn't read top to bottom extensively) and I could not find what it is based on; what kernel it is using; or modem. Of course kernel and modem would be changeable, but I would like to know what base it is on.
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should have read the Q&A thread on it....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=962276

Pirateghost said:
should have read the Q&A thread on it....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=962276
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You are right. Seems nobody has any standards on where to put that information. Seems to me the OP should contain the basic info on what it is built on. Or the release notes linked from the OP.
Whatever....

ewingr said:
You are right. Seems nobody has any standards on where to put that information. Seems to me the OP should contain the basic info on what it is built on. Or the release notes linked from the OP.
Whatever....
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not trying to flame but isn't failure to read the reason for a lot of thread starters and posts. blame it on yourself before the rom developer.
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rjblack11 said:
not trying to flame but isn't failure to read the reason for a lot of thread starters and posts. blame it on yourself before the rom developer.
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EXACTLY!
yeah, it would suck to have to read a QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS thread when you have a QUESTION about the rom that needs ANSWERED

Pirateghost said:
EXACTLY!
yeah, it would suck to have to read a QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS thread when you have a QUESTION about the rom that needs ANSWERED
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I agree with you, but I also agree with the FDA and suggest putting all BASIC info right on the bottle (the ROM OP). Would benefit everyone.

rjblack11 said:
not trying to flame but isn't failure to read the reason for a lot of thread starters and posts. blame it on yourself before the rom developer.
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I agree with you. I do. I don't want to flame or start a war on it either.
I commented that I did not read comprehensively; and I commented in my reply that he was right about that I should have read the Q&A. My only point was I did read what I considered the logical places: the OP; and the release notes, particularly the earlier part of the release notes, whre typically what the ROM is made up if would be stored.
Does that not make some sense?
That's all I was getting at. While I have read a thread front to back, I only do so if I have decided I do want to use the ROM. Sometimes a little logic in placement of information in documentation makes the documentation so much better.
Now, I will go read, and see if I want to try Andromeda. I recall the Armani ROM coming out, and something rings a bell about that which made me stay away, but I have no idea now what that was. That was very early in my efforts to install ROMS.
Back to our regular show ...

ewingr said:
I recall the Armani ROM coming out, and something rings a bell about that which made me stay away, but I have no idea now what that was. That was very early in my efforts to install ROMS.
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your hesitation with armani was likely a couple of us bricking our phones with the bootloader that shipped with the original armani rom. the boot loaders have been removed from the CWM flashable and do not cause bricks

Discussion - Fastest 2.1 ROM for Milestone

Hi guys,
I've flashed CM6.1 ROM (Froyo 2.2) to my Milestone a few weeks ago - and was enjoying it till one day I accidentaly hard reset and noticed that I have also removed the default launcher from ROM. So I had black screen and nothing appears after the phone was booted.
Well I could just have copied a launcher over from the PC, but I decided to restore my Nandroid backup.
To my surprise, the backup was the stock 2.1 Eclair ROM. So I was frustrated a bit to lose Froyo.
But after using Eclair 2.1 for a week or so, I have never enjoyed using the Milestone as much as this. It's fast and responsive, better than when I had Froyo.
I wanted to ask - is it true that Eclair 2.1 IS faster than Froyo, or did I flashed a slow Froyo ROM? In terms of memory management is great too. I can open more apps and keep them running than I can remember with my Froyo. With Froyo, I've encountered like foreground app close, and changing from one app to another will eventually killed the last app and had to load it back.
Or can someone recommend a very fast and good memory management of Froyo ROM for my milestone? Or it's really - Ok let's cut the crap and go straight to the point - Eclair that's leading in this race (and I've won?). Edit : The Eclair won!
I do miss the Flash 10 on Froyo... sigh, if only I can get it on Eclair still.
Thanks.
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Update: Well it's not a true-not-true anymore but it is TRUE that Eclair does run much faster than Froyo or Gingerbread. I'm using Telus 5.2 Eclair and I just can't believe the speed that I'm getting (it's like Milestone on steroid!). See my post on 2nd page. And no I'm not with Telus or related or what, but I highly recommend this ROM to Eclair users out there. This is definitely a keeper! I've also covered about the battery life and tempreture on the post on 2nd page. Have a read, and don't hesitate to flash Telus, you will never regret it. Now I am more hesitate to flash over to Froyo or Gingerbread even more after using it! Hey, I feel like I can outbeat a Tegra even
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Update: First of all I'm renaming this thread from "Milestone 2.1 Eclair faster than 2.2 Froyo" to "Discussion - Fastest 2.1 ROM for Milestone".
I saw some users asking about where this Telus 5.2 Eclair is.. so I'm providing the link here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717377.
No I am not associated with the dev who made that ROM or whatsoever, and I am not duplicating the thread. Merely suggesting the fastest 2.1 ROM available (currently), for those who are not the 'wait and obey' users of Milestone, but to the 'commander' users of this device. Continuous discussions about which is the fastest 2.1 ROMs are still welcomed here, and of course, any ROM comparison discussions with other various versions (eg. 1.6, 2.2, 2.3, 3.0??) should head over here >http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029887

I haven't used Eclair in a long time but I remember how clad i was when I flashed a custom ROM for a first time (some Cm7 nightly) and on my case my milestone felt blazing fast even with bad memory management and I "promised" I never go back to stock eclair and have kept that promise. I'm now running FroyoMod 2.6.1b and this is probably the most stable rom I've ever had and if u haven't tried it then u should because it just might me the rom that ur looking for when it comes to stability and capabilities.
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Hey MakeW00t , sounds interesting. But fast alone isn't enough for me. Good memory management plays a vital role as well. I just hate to see vital apps (eg. navigational software) got killed just because I had to read my SMS or check a few things on the calendar!
Anyway, thanks for your recommendation. Maybe I'll flash FroyoMod 2.6.1b when I feel Eclair is not enough.
I've been through that before "I never go back to stock eclair" But now that I had it back.. I can't see any reason NOT to..

neato4u said:
Hi guys,
But after using Eclair 2.1 for a week or so, I have never enjoyed using the Milestone as much as this. It's fast and responsive, better than when I had Froyo.
Thanks.
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Same here, it is nice to have a PHONE again, and Eclair makes it real... Sad but true... I tried and tested almost all mods available on this forum (including official stock froyo update and Froyo Mod 2.6, which unfortunately also appears to be frustrating and sluggish after only 2-3 days of intensive use, without too much apps installed at all!)... must admit that my personal favorite is MIUI by lalit79 (recommendations, great job done lalit!), but after some serious stability/speed issues in latest version (overheating during battery charge, ext2/4 not working whatever method I tried, FCs), Eclair is the ultimate choice of the moment (I need a stable and reliable device, for calls and long bussines emails, no crashes or FC-s or reboots)... at least, until a new MIUI version is ready... If you already didn't, try rooting and overclocking eclair with milestone OC (@900/56) - it gives a nice final touch of ultimate speed and joy of "Phone Without Compromise" (and official froyo is one BIG compromise, if you ask me)....
cheers!

Hi mcekic. Well as a matter of fact I did OC my Milestone using Milestone Overclock to 1000Mhz, 69vsel. Battery life is ok so I guess I'll stick with it for a while (If not I will use your 900/56, should give me more battery life - logically).
I believe I have the same needs as you, to have a real PHONE again!
Don't get me wrong, Froyo does have all the extra functionalities (I miss App2SD and Flash 10 the most - but I heard that this is possible on Eclair as well? Havn't done my homework yet in regards to this) but in the end, all that functionalities goes to waste when the performance is sacrificed.
I have also OC'ed the phone to 1Ghz when I was running Froyo. But I think the main culprit is the memory management. It just can't stop killing apps, and when it does, the phone felt slow. I used Autokiller, that helped a bit, but Eclair still wins.
Now, does anyone knows the best Eclair ROM ? I need a naked ROM if available. Whoa now that would be super fast!

Guys, I think this thread would fit in this one very well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029887
Roms: Continuous comparison of milestone roms and updates

well s0ulreaver, now that you mentioned it, I do think this discussion would very well belong there.
Can any mod possibly merge this?

I think Froyo is so heavy for MS. But in another view, it's not too bad.
Did you try stock ROM from Motorola?
Except DSI, I think it's acceptable. You can run at 550MHz without any problem.
With CM6, I have to OC at 750.
But now I use it for daily uses, because it's very convenience.

neato4u said:
It just can't stop killing apps, and when it does, the phone felt slow. I used Autokiller, that helped a bit, but Eclair still wins.
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yup, went back to eclair after several froyo/gb roms (cm6, froyomod, miui, cm7).
our milestone just don't have the ram for anything more memory demanding than eclair
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Now, does anyone knows the best Eclair ROM ? I need a naked ROM if available. Whoa now that would be super fast!
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i tried stock 2.1 from moto germany but then switched to telus lite 5.2 with a gb skin. it runs smooth and stable like a rock and can handle multiple apps in mem (facebook, maps, opera and minor stuff like talk, gmail, etc at the same time).
besides the skin it is pretty vanilla and wields all the nice stuff like overclocking and the cache hack.

Eclair is the best. i overclocked at 800Mhz with 58 Volts. Its smooth and no bugs/issues. It never restarts and works just fine.

nowforever said:
I think Froyo is so heavy for MS. But in another view, it's not too bad.
Did you try stock ROM from Motorola?
Except DSI, I think it's acceptable. You can run at 550MHz without any problem.
With CM6, I have to OC at 750.
But now I use it for daily uses, because it's very convenience.
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You mean stock Froyo ROM from Motorola? No I haven't tried it yet, but I saw this guy here posted Froyo stock running flash 10.2 on his Milestone overclocked to 1.2Ghz and it runs great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaCspAW8RzA
i have never saw flash video that plays so smooth on the Milestone - and am happy to see one! I'm gonna try Froyo stock when i have the time, but of course, I need to do a Nandroid backup first
What's a DSI?

birdienofly said:
yup, went back to eclair after several froyo/gb roms (cm6, froyomod, miui, cm7).
our milestone just don't have the ram for anything more memory demanding than eclair
i tried stock 2.1 from moto germany but then switched to telus lite 5.2 with a gb skin. it runs smooth and stable like a rock and can handle multiple apps in mem (facebook, maps, opera and minor stuff like talk, gmail, etc at the same time).
besides the skin it is pretty vanilla and wields all the nice stuff like overclocking and the cache hack.
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Well, I believe you're an experienced custom froyo ROM user then. For me I didn't have the time to flash that many froyo ROMs to test. But hey, I guess you've saved my time by sharing your experience with it right
Cool, I should not be doing much this weekend so I think I'll make up some time to flash telus lite 5.2 - The most important thing for me is to have a reliable phone, and a responsive one as well. Based on your recommendation, I think telus lite 5.2 fits the bill. Will try it out and give my opinion on it later. Thanks!

hp13 said:
Eclair is the best. i overclocked at 800Mhz with 58 Volts. Its smooth and no bugs/issues. It never restarts and works just fine.
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Hey I was running on 1Ghz 69vsel, now trying 800Mhz 58vsel. Hopefully there is a noticeable difference in the battery life! Thanks hp13!

neato4u said:
Based on your recommendation, I think telus lite 5.2 fits the bill.
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btw: if you want a gingerbread-look on telus lite (as the default skin and fonts are ugly imho) try "better gingerbread theme for 2.1". just make sure you delete settings.apk and motocardock.apk in the skin update zip.

birdienofly said:
btw: if you want a gingerbread-look on telus lite (as the default skin and fonts are ugly imho) try "better gingerbread theme for 2.1". just make sure you delete settings.apk and motocardock.apk in the skin update zip.
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Thanks, hey, as a matter of fact, let me try this on my stock 2.1 ROM.
A bit update on my 2.1 stock, when downloading big files over 100MB via browser and saving to SDCard, my phone will eventually be in the 'sleep of death' mode where it sleep and will never turn on again - unless I remove and reinsert the battery of course. Not sure what's causing this.
Update : It was my MicroSD card which been causing this. It's corrupted somehow or rather ...
Another issue is that when I record videos and battery is low, during the end of recording, the phone will hang. Tried this several times when the battery is low (about 15% charge left), and confirmed that is the issue - why? possible cause maybe not enough power to process / save these videos? Snapping pictures works ok. On some devices (especially Samsungs), camera and video function will be denied access when battery is low. I guess this could be the issue unless anyone else have not run into this problem before?

hmm now i really want to go back to eclair, cm7 is to big for the milestone

Indeed, Telus Lite 5.2 is the way to go. Very good stability and speed.

Darn... I've just flashed Telus 5.2 last Sunday and it's TRUE that this is the fastest ROM available for the Milestone!
I just can't believe the speed that I'm getting. I feel that I can outbeat a Tegra even! Hahahaha..
The phone (compared to stock 2.1) is also cooler when tethering. I used to get up around 46c - 57c, with the Telus I'm getting like 34c - 47c with wifi tether on.
In terms of battery life. After 13hrs 10minutes, my battery went down from 100% to 50%. Edge was turned on all the time. 15minutes of Wifi tether with HSDPA on. 30minutes of fb and websurfing. 15 minutes on Papago GPS. Some SMS and whatsapp plus yahoo messenger runnin all the time as services. Not bad.
Highly recommended for Eclair users!

AFAIK though, nobody has been able to get app2ext working in Telus Lite.
People have gotten app2ext work with stock eclair though. (1 of these days, I plan to go back to rooted, OC'd, GOT sbf eclair. I assume that app2ext will work as GOT is heavily based on the stock eclair sbf.)

I assume that app2ext will work as GOT is heavily based on the stock eclair sbf.
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GOT Eclair is Stock Eclair, it is a Leak of the official Firmaware. only change is the vulnerable recovery afaik.
rest of GOT specific modifications are applied through OR! was one of the best Eclair FW's i tried (for the first time my alarm and geolocation service were working ; )
Darn... I've just flashed Telus 5.2 last Sunday and it's TRUE that this is the fastest ROM available for the Milestone!
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yeah i tried Eclair too again, rly a difference in speed, but some features brought me back to CM6.
imo there are good reasons to go back and stay at eclair, but there are also good reasons to stay on froyo tbh.
+speed speed speed
+multitasking
+battery life
-no flash
-old google apps some can't be updated (gmail, youtube)
-no "2 finger Map Rotation Maps"

[Q] My head is spinning - how to evaluate ROMs/kernels - wait for ICS?

First - Kudos to XDA and all of the amazing developers and contributors. I never believed in the concept of "too much of a good thing", but this place has me thinking that it might be possible.
I want fast and stable (unlike others looking for slow and unstable ). Due to the frequent releases and unimaginably long threads, I'm having trouble pinpointing the info that I need. Since the forum doesn't allow me to ask opinions, please provide guidance on how to find the data.
It does seem that there are several dependable choices and I can't go wrong by rolling the dice among them. Is that a fair statement? I only want to do this once, because I do not have the time or skills to evaluate and compare the installations.
And then there is ICS. The ROMs seem imminent. Anyone want to speculate on the ETA of a stable release? Would it make sense to wait?

I will get back to you later when I'm on my computer, reserved. ...
Sent from my I897 using xda premium

steveorg said:
First - Kudos to XDA and all of the amazing developers and contributors. I never believed in the concept of "too much of a good thing", but this place has me thinking that it might be possible.
I want fast and stable (unlike others looking for slow and unstable ). Due to the frequent releases and unimaginably long threads, I'm having trouble pinpointing the info that I need. Since the forum doesn't allow me to ask opinions, please provide guidance on how to find the data.
It does seem that there are several dependable choices and I can't go wrong by rolling the dice among them. Is that a fair statement? I only want to do this once, because I do not have the time or skills to evaluate and compare the installations.
And then there is ICS. The ROMs seem imminent. Anyone want to speculate on the ETA of a stable release? Would it make sense to wait?
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Depending on your needs, and what you're running now. There are some very good/stable GB releases, I personally like Mosaic 8 the most. Apex 10.1 is also very good. For something a little different, Miui is also very good. I suffer from somewhat poor battery life on Miui in comparison to Mosaic 8.
ICS is looking good, but there are some pretty major issues in the way right now, we really do need a kernel for our devices even though the i9000 works. There is no data(3g), and no Google calendar sync are the main issues for me. Obviously the dev's are working their butts off to get ICS going, and I dont like to speculate on timelines, because you just never know. Someone could crack the code today, or it could be weeks.

kangi26 said:
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Thanks for mentioning battery life. That's a factor that I hadn't considered. I guess that I should expand my question to ask what are the factors that I should consider? So far I have three:
Stability
Speed
Battery life
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If more are suggested, I'll add them to this post as they come in.
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when pairing up a kernel and rom they must be the same android version (eg 2.2 2.3.3 or 2.3.5) build code (kk kj ) isnt important. (thanks TRusselo)
Do not reinstall apps that previously "fixed" issues like battery life, memory issues and GPS inadequacies because they may introduce instability, which sometimes may persist after the app is uninstalled.
Flashing is quick and easy. TiBU restores, settings tweaks and home app set-up is time consuming. Accordingly, kick a few tires to help decide which ROM works best for you.

well all the gingerbread roms are "stable". ( froyo too obviously)
many things can affect speed and battery- kernel, your apps, your habbits.
if trying a froyo first before "movin on up" MUST TRY firefly 3.0 with onix kernel. battery life worth drooling over! and many themes available for it.
gingerbread, many great roms.
when it comes to kernels, lately ive been seeing alot of "highly tweaked" kernels (eg red nebula) that well, just seems like over-kill (especially without kernel source) and to a new user is kinda "head spinning" stick with something simple and close to stock to start. samurai is a good place to start, or boogs kernels...
when pairing up a kernel and rom they must be the same android version (eg 2.2 2.3.3 or 2.3.5) build code (kk kj ) isnt important.

TRusselo said:
...many things can affect speed and battery- kernel, your apps, your habbits...
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I assume that apps that run in the background or are processor intensive will be slower and consume more power. Is there any info to determine which ROMs or kernels are better with those kind of apps?
TRusselo said:
when it comes to kernels, lately ive been seeing alot of "highly tweaked" kernels (eg red nebula) that well, just seems like over-kill (especially without kernel source) and to a new user is kinda "head spinning" stick with something simple and close to stock to start. samurai is a good place to start, or boogs kernels...
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Is the kernel source an issue for someone that is not a developer? How?
TRusselo said:
when pairing up a kernel and rom they must be the same android version (eg 2.2 2.3.3 or 2.3.5) build code (kk kj ) isnt important.
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I'll add that to the list above. Thanks, and thanks for all of your info.

steveorg said:
I assume that apps that run in the background or are processor intensive will be slower and consume more power. Is there any info to determine which ROMs or kernels are better with those kind of apps?
Is the kernel source an issue for someone that is not a developer? How?
I'll add that to the list above. Thanks, and thanks for all of your info.
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Most of those issues will be determined by the apps you run, not so much the kernel you run.
On Mosaic, I have very good performance with Talon, and Semaphore
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While going through the excellent XDA and Android Terms and Acronyms, I came across the definition for No-Wipe Package:
NO-WIPE PACKAGE: A rom update package that leaves the user's market apps intact while still performing the updates to the system files. Restoring from backup is not necessary.
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Now that seem like a strong reason to use a package. Does anyone know which ROMs come with a No-Wipe Package?
However, is there any advantage to clean installs through backup/restore? Can a No-Wipe Package be used when going from Froyo to Gingerbread?

No wipe packages are usually for one ROM, when some stuff has changed but not the firmware version or anything super major.
Most roms are wipe packages, titanium backup pro comes in real handy, menu> batch> restore missing apps. And walk away til its done.

steveorg said:
And then there is ICS. The ROMs seem imminent... Would it make sense to wait?
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I too was wondering about this.
I'm on FireFly 3.0 and was thinking of going to Dlev 4.2.
I don't like flashing roms because it takes to long to get the phone back to my config. I prefer to flash and stick with it for some time.
Should I/we stick with a GB rom or wait for ICS?
Is there anything mind blowing in ICS that will change our world as we know it?

geeksquad2 said:
Should I/we stick with a GB rom or wait for ICS?
Is there anything mind blowing in ICS that will change our world as we know it?
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Look, too say ICS is "imminent" is just an overstatement..........if you have not done anything to oyour phone, or have little experience, ICS maybe a step too far ahead.
If you want to go straight to Gingerbread, that may more understandable.
In my OPINION, Apex 10.1 (a i9000 ROM) or Pinnacle 1.2 (a SGH-1987 ROM) are great top-of-the-line ROMs, especially because watsa includes his own ODIN packages and they are ready to go. A no-brainer for most folks. The instructions and packages are a big plus.

Now that I'm done
The upgrade was a much more painful experience than expected, but well worth the outcome.
I wanted to do it once, and I succeeded if you redefine "once" as 5 ROM flashes with full TiBU restores, settings tweaks and home app (GO Launcher) set-up. I also performed several other ROM and Kernel flashes where I just briefly checked out the look and feel and how well a few features worked. Surprisingly, basic apps such as the Market could be problematic. Even more surprisingly, the same ROM could perform differently when reflashed.
I suspect that is partly because I had a very sick cappy. Some of my problems were caused by too many app fixes that caused their own problems. One of the reasons for the multiple flashes with TiBu restores was to isolate the trouble makers while the rest of my apps were installed. In the end, I removed every app that "fixed" issues like battery life, memory issues and GPS inadequacies. Now that I know better, I think of these apps as personal bloat ware that should not be installed with any new ROM or kernel until you've had a chance to understand if you have problems requiring a fix. Sometimes, even installing and then uninstalling seems to create permanent problems.
I also learned not to be intimidated by flashing. It's an easy to understand and quick process. The key is to check out the ROM before the hard part - TiBu restores and customizing the settings.
BTW - The winner was (drum roll please ) - Illuminance 2.1.1. It has several SGSII features (new Swype is nice), seems fast, doubled my battery life and has been stable. I compared it to a friend's brand-spanking new AT&T SGS II and my reborn cappy held up. For example, the SGSII was a a bit faster on loading Google Maps, getting a fix and loading a traffic overlay, but not so much that there was a functional difference.
I actually flashed Illuminance 3 times - once just to kick the tires. I removed it once because my bloat created instability and caused the Market not to work. The only minor issue I have left is GPS optimization. The GPS works well (previously was often useless and very slow), but from reading this forum I believe it could be snappier and more accurate.
I added some of these observations to my second post on this thread.

Personally, I'd say just flash MIUI and then wait for the ICS port to become stable enough to be used as a daily driver without any major setbacks. But only because that's what I'm doing
The main attraction of MIUI is its huge degree of customization. You can customize everything from the battery icon to the framework itself without ever having to reboot your phone. You just find a theme you like and apply it.
The only downside of it is the battery life. While in use, it's the same as any other Samsung/CM7-based ROM, but it usually drains at ~5% per hour when in standby. Of course this can be kept at around ~2% an hour if you keep wifi/data/sync turned off (personal experience, ymmv).
... The more you know
Herp derp Captivate XDA Premium.

chappatti said:
Look, too say ICS is "imminent" is just an overstatement..........if you have not done anything to oyour phone, or have little experience, ICS maybe a step too far ahead.
If you want to go straight to Gingerbread, that may more understandable.
In my OPINION, Apex 10.1 (a i9000 ROM) or Pinnacle 1.2 (a SGH-1987 ROM) are great top-of-the-line ROMs, especially because watsa includes his own ODIN packages and they are ready to go. A no-brainer for most folks. The instructions and packages are a big plus.
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Ok, so I spent a week or so reading up, and finally this afternoon, I flashed over to Pinnacle v1.2. I noticed that there was a v1.3, but I didn't get it.
It worked like a charm! I was done in under an hour. Thanks for your advice!

i would add that if you are getting into flashing a lot of different roms, its worth getting the paid version of Titanium Backup because it can restore all of your apps and settings in one step, rather than with the free version, where you have to click "install" for each one as the batch process happens. it will literally save you hours for all of maybe $6

If you really don't want to lose anything and you're getting into flashing it might be worth your money to invest in mybackup pro ontop of titanium backup pro.
It will restore call logs, sms, mms, specific app settings (like if you use a market keyboard), plus alot more. Its definitely worth it, you can restore nearly everything between after switching roms to a new daily driver.
Flashing is a disease so don't be surprised when you get the urge to look up whats new in a couple weeks and wanna try the different ICS roms and such, make all the backup software extremely important.

geeksquad2 said:
I too was wondering about this.
I'm on FireFly 3.0 and was thinking of going to Dlev 4.2.
I don't like flashing roms because it takes to long to get the phone back to my config. I prefer to flash and stick with it for some time.
Should I/we stick with a GB rom or wait for ICS?
Is there anything mind blowing in ICS that will change our world as we know it?
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No...not really (on Beta 2 ics)...its just cool
I would update though.....really stable.

There is not a true beta 2 ICS for the Captivate, ytt3r hasn't done it yet.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium

b-eock said:
There is not a true beta 2 ICS for the Captivate, ytt3r hasn't done it yet.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium
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Its the i9000 build with a custom captivate kernel....works the same as it would if it were a i897 rom.

Dude I know what it is... But there isn't a beta 2 kernel for the captivate yet...
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