I'll be honest. The NC confuses me slightly when it comes to how to root, flash ROMs, etc. compared to my Incredible, it feels like day and night.
I made a thread about a month ago about wanting to learn the process but since then it has changed greatly with the 1.2 update.
I would really like if someone could detail out to me the steps I need to root and have CM7 on the NC.
I have questions that are probably answered right in front of me but they get lost in the vast amount of posts.
Since the eMMC is pretty much canceled out for the time being, I want to run CM7 off the SD card, I've already read a Sandisk Class 2 8 or 16GB is the right card for this, how the hell do I put CWM, CM7, etc on this one SD card or am I supposed to use 2-3 different cards for the process? Then what do I do from there?
What is the most stable, but feature packed release of CM7 at this point in time, like what build, which kernel, etc.? Market and GAPPS working?
Assuming the SD card is good, does running off the SD card impact performance or is it as slick as running off the internal?
Pretty much I'm starting from dead scratch when it comes to the NC and I feel the guide threads don't do enough justice to explain certain questions fully enough or at all?
If it helps at all, I just plan to download apps, internet browse, stream music from Mougg, little or no game playing, and overclock.
So someone please help me out? It's not like I know nothing, as I have a rooted and kept up to date phone but for some reason, the NC confuses me and I may be overthinking.
If I remember any more questions, I'll list them. Thanks.
Here you go...step by step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
The link above is for emmc installs; if you want to install to the sd card, and it's your first time, I highly recommend Verygreen's install here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
I was able to get my SD card up in running in under a half hour with Google apps market! Verygreen really does a great job explaining how to do this.
From my experience, a Sandisk Class 4 8 gig card works VERY well...very responsive, it will run as well or possibly better than stock 1.2. I know that CM7 is up to 7.0.3 stable, but I'm sticking with 7.0.2 until 7.1.0 comes out stable; everything is running fine, I have Netflix up and running with the boot.prop mod, and the only issue is battery life, which is a bit less than stock 1.2. Once 7.1.x is stable, I expect that to be fixed, and I'll be looking to flash to emmc, but for now this gives me all I need.
Plus one for the size agnostic method in Goferbroke's post. Simple and stable.
I'm running 7.0.3 stable without any major problems. For battery life, I installed Auto WiFi Toggle, free in the Android Market.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.appspot.eikatou0.autowifionoff
Still looking for answers.
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I agree with Goferbroke and brucemcl and recommend Verygreen's method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957. I am fairly technical, but not at this level. I have never worked with a card reader, SD Card, Win32DiskImager, etc., and everything went fine.
A couple things I would recommend are: read through the entire thread - you will find some steps clarified and some issues others have run into, and; when rebooting to install the Market and Gapps, hold the 'n' button down, even after you release the power button.
The process just requires one SD card and a card reader. I personally chose the most recent Release Candidate for stability (update-cm-7.0.0-RC4-encore-signed.zip). However, I believe that I am in the minority - I have read where most people use a recent 'stable' release, which is newer than the latest RC.
The research I did does not indicate that running off the SD Card is any faster or slower than running off the eMMC. But, I have not run CM7 on the eMMC, so I have no performance benchmarks to share.
I have since installed a number of applications, a boot menu (u-boot_v0.4.bin) and am currently looking at ways to disable the 'Phone idle' and 'Cell standby' applications, which I don't think can be used on the NC, but are two of the highest battery consumers.
Briaom said:
I have since installed a number of applications, a boot menu (u-boot_v0.4.bin) and am currently looking at ways to disable the 'Phone idle' and 'Cell standby' applications, which I don't think can be used on the NC, but are two of the highest battery consumers.
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To my understanding, the 'phone idle' & 'cell standby' are the equivalent of 'system idle' & 'system processes' on a PC. I don't think these can be disabled and still have a workable tablet.
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Still looking for answers.
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Be patient. I spent three weeks reading through all the posts and I'm still confused.
I just put CM7 on an SD card this morning. So far, so good.
First, I read the post < Barnes & Noble Nook Color - Nook Color Android Development - [Ref] Nook Color Links |Guides|How To|Utilities| Etc. 12/26 Read FIRST =) > (sorry, don't know how to put links in a quick reply yet). Read the 4th post, starting at the top of the post, pick the first link, then the second, then the third. This guide is really good. That is what you need to understand it. Then read the 3rd post and pick the link.
This is the generic image you will burn to your SDcard using WinImager (if you are using a Windows PC). After burning your SDcard, unmount it from the PC and then remount it, Then you will be able to see the boot partition. COPY the CM7 ...-encore.zip you wish to use to the card, DO NOT UNZIP it, just copy it to the SDcard. Then unmount the SDcard from your PC and put it into the NC and power the NC.
I used verygreen's method but I'm on 7.02. Having said that I think you mean Sandisk Class 4 8gb, not class 2. FYI.
For a more detailed look at Verygreen's method I found the below link helpful:
http://quinxy.com/2011/04/01/comple...c4-android-2-3-gingerbread-on-the-nook-color/
Hope that helps.
It's pretty easy and people will help you here if you have any problems.
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I used verygreen's method but I'm on 7.02. Having said that I think you mean Sandisk Class 4 8gb, not class 2. FYI.
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The class only applies to the sequential speed. The random read/write speed seems to depend on.... I dunno, pixie dust? Differences in how clean the clean rooms are? Either way, some of the class 2 Sandisks have outperformed the class 4s in the random benchmark.
I'd go with either a class 2 or class 4 Sandisk, whichever one you find at a reasonable price. I've had good luck with both an 8GB class 2 and a 16GB class 4.
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I have a 2GB microSD card and I want a ROM that I can just burn with win32diskImager and boot up from my Nook.
Any help would be appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022786
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
that's just the first two that i saw in dev section...
Sorry i'm not more helpful, i went the emmc route and am not as familiar with the SDcard threads
djlim4 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022786
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
that's just the first two that i saw in dev section...
sorry, but i would've thought a 200 count poster would know to check out the devs section for something like this, there are a lot of threads on it i believe
Sorry i'm not more helpful, i went the emmc route and am not as familiar with the SDcard threads
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I've already done searches and read for the past 2 days. I'm not an idiot, that's why I asked a question.
yea, my bad, there was absolutely no need for any extra comments from me, should be just trying to help. Edited my post. (getting off the nicotine patches this week)
anyway, good luck. if you need any help if you decide emmc route, let me know
Here's a good one for CM7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
If I were you I would go with CM7... Its easy, stable if you're SD is class 4, I havn't had one problem whatsoever. I'd say its the best SD Card only ROM for the NC.
I putting forward the Dual Phiremod and HC4 SD card rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018
- Phiremod has some nice customizations and based off CM7
- Also chance to try HC4 if you feel like it. Although in the end, I just ran with Phiremod.
FYI, was using an 8 Gig Class 6 transcend for these and was quite happy. Have moved to pure CM7 on emmc as of last night and Phiremod is very comparable.
Thank you guys a lot of good suggestions, I went ahead and bought an 8GB microsd but it's a class 10. I put the phiremod/HC dual boot on it and it seems pretty good, but every once in a while the nook will just pause like it's thinking. Is that the ROM or the sd card?
Higher class SD cards tend to suck as boot drives because they've been optimized for large, sequential writes (like taking rapid-fire, high-res photographs), whereas running an OS and apps involves lots of small, random writes. It really depends on the specific model, but Class 6 and above cards are often 50-100x slower than their cheaper brethren in the benchmark we need. This thread breaks it down fairly well, with some card recommendations (mostly Sandisk class 2 + 4):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
CM7 on my 16GB Sandisk class 4 certainly seems to run faster than stock 1.2 on the emmc.
I just bought a NC off the marketplace and wanted to see if there is anything I should know. I've had a G1, HD2, G2, and Thunderbolt. I'm not new to android. Anything unique I should know about the NC before it gets delivered? I believe it comes with an otterbox. The only thing I see that I've never handled before is the whole booting off the sdcard or eMMC, besides on the HD2. Hows the battery life on the device? I also see that some people have had some problems with CM7 builds, and from the little I've read the dreadful "screen of death". The NC seems to have a nice developer community.
I've got an ipad for the heavier lifting that the NC can't do like play AVI movies and youtube.
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I just bought a NC off the marketplace and wanted to see if there is anything I should know. I've had a G1, HD2, G2, and Thunderbolt. I'm not new to android. Anything unique I should know about the NC before it gets delivered? I believe it comes with an otterbox. The only thing I see that I've never handled before is the whole booting off the sdcard or eMMC, besides on the HD2. Hows the battery life on the device? I also see that some people have had some problems with CM7 builds, and from the little I've read the dreadful "screen of death". The NC seems to have a nice developer community.
I've got an ipad for the heavier lifting that the NC can't do like play AVI movies and youtube.
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First off, Welcome to the Community. Second, where did you here the nook can't play Youtube or AVI? It can do both well. Also the Nook is pretty much Unbrickable.
Okay in order for you to get started you need to decide between EMMC or SDcard for your Root/ROM.
If you want the best possible performance you should go with EMMC but this will prevent you from Sending it to B&N for Repairs without completely Reflashing it to Virgin Stock(A pain to do if you got everything Setup just right).
If you go the SDCard route you sacrafice some performance for a few other benefits. One, running a ROM off your SD doesn't require you to Root your Stock ROM. Also since your running it off the SD you can remove the SDcard and get the Normal Stock OS, meaning you can just pull the card if you need to send it back to B&N, or if you get a new Nook you can pop the SDcard in and have everything still setup the way you like it. Also if you screw up your SDcard it's a whole lot easier to fix than a screwed up EMMC.
Either way you'll need a MicroSD card. People recommend at least a 4gb class 6 card but SanDisk cards seem to do well no matter what class they are.
Next choose your ROM.
If you're going the EMMC route you have 4 options Sdcards have 3:
EMMC ONLY
-Rooted Stock (Auto-Rooters are avalable for v1.0-1.1 but 1.2[Froyo] is Manual Root only for now)
SDCARD & EMMC
-Normal Froyo (Currently has best battery life but isn't the best expirience on the 4 button Nook)
-CM7 [Android 2.3] (Currently the best ROM expirence on the Nook(ROM customized for Nook), has many built in features, including Soft Buttons on the Statusbar and Statusbar on bottom(Optional) However it currently suffers from Sleep issues that effect battery life but these should be fixed soon. Also GApps are easiest to install on it)
-Honeycomb [Android 3.0] (Androids Tablet specific version. However, it lacks some features found on official Tablets because it's made by Hacking the Honeycomb Preview Image given to Devs.)
Personally I'm running CM7 off a 4gb class 6 MicroSD and it runs really well over my previous Froyo ROM.
Let me know which one you choose and I'll point you to a good thread for getting started.
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^ Wow... that's about as best a response to a question I've seen in quite a while. I couldn't have said anything better myself. I'm still very new as well but that's great advice.
Japzone, thank you for that response.
It seem like the original user has a rom on the eMMC but would be willing to return the item back to stock. Aftering reading your post I believe I'll ask them to return the item to stock. I'll then load up CM7 on a sdcard, and should I decide to return to eMMC access I'll root it myself. How does the NC know to boot off the sdcard or install the zips on the sdcard?
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How does the NC know to boot off the sdcard or install the zips on the sdcard?
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When booting, the NC looks FIRST at sdcard so there is nothing special you need to do for that.
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Japzone, thank you for that response.
It seem like the original user has a rom on the eMMC but would be willing to return the item back to stock. Aftering reading your post I believe I'll ask them to return the item to stock. I'll then load up CM7 on a sdcard, and should I decide to return to eMMC access I'll root it myself. How does the NC know to boot off the sdcard or install the zips on the sdcard?
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Or you could do it yourself:
[HOW-TO] : Restore Nook Color back to stock EASILY!
Also here's the best way to install CM7 to your SD card:
[ROM][CM7] Size-agnostic SD Card image and CM7 installer for SD Cards. with updater
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After some more thought in gonna leave it rooted. Still, CM7 is what I want. EMMC
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I'm very new and I'm still pretty lost and could use any suggestions or guides or help of any kind! I've had my NC for about a week now and the past couple of days I've been reading up and doing research on how I wanted to go about "Getting Started' with rooting.
So far I've come to the conclusion that I want to start with the rooting & booting from a microSD card and I'll be going out shortly to buy 2 (one for backups and one for booting/storing/using my NC) new SanDisk microSD cards (Class 2 or 4 and probably either - one 4GB & one 8GB or one 8GB & one 16GB). When I get back hopefully I can get started on my first rooting process.
I just had a couple of questions, but if anyone wants to suggest how to go about starting, it's greatly appreciated!
A.) With the new 1.3 on the NC, is there a different process I need to do to start rooting? Can I just pick up on one of the posts that was started during earlier NC releases? Or... Do I have to find a way to downgrade to 1.2 and then start rooting?
B.) Is there a specific version or way or guide that I should follow/go about when I first start and want to back up the original ROM?
C.) What's the best "to-date" ROM I should use after I do the back up process? CM7? And what is a "nightly build"? lol
That's all that I can think of for now... and I'm sorry if these are really stupid questions but like I said earlier... I'm super new to this. Once I actually get started I'll most likely try to follow a guide/step-by-step kinda thing (if I can find one).
Thank you! And if ANYONE has ANYTHING to say on the topic, PLEASE post because I guarantee I'll definitely find it useful and beneficial!
I don't have answers, but you have almost the exact same post I was about to write, so I thought I'd just ask a couple extra questions and add to this "I'm new to nook" post. I read about the Sandisk class 2 or 4 microsd cards being best, but does the size matter at all? In other words, would I be wasting money buying a 4 gb card vs a 32 gb one?
Well I'm glad I'm not alone in this one haha
I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that size doesn't matter lol... Sorry I couldn't help myself with that one.
But in all seriousness I really do think that while I was reading about which memory cards to get that the gigs doesn't matter, only the Classes do. I could be totally wrong but I hope not because I just bought a 4 and 8 gig. I would have gotten the 16 GB but they were already sold out.
Hopefully someone with knowledge on these questions will come along and give us the right advice.
So after reading the forums for hours upon hours and even more hours I've read/learned a lot more than I did when I posted this but I still have a few questions if anyone would be willing the lend a helping hand.
I read that you don't have to do anything different when installing to an SD (verygreen's guide) card but I still wanted to double check... so if anyone has a definite answer please let me know.
I'm still not entirely sure about how to actually get started, so to say. Yeah I've read the guide quite a few times in quite a few different places, but I'm still a little confused. I'm not sure what exactly "step one" would be or what I exactly need to do at the very start.
I figured out what "nightly" is and everything like that lol. I'm still thinking I'm going to follow verygreen's guide, but I keep seeing people saying that they keep adding nightlys to the SD Card/CM7. Is that something that's a need-to-do or once you've finished verygreen's guide, you can be done with it?
And my last REALLY stupid question would have to be.... what does the "u" stand for in uSD? hahaha I've tried really hard to figure it out but I can't find it out anywhere.
Thanks!!
Edit: Thought of a question I'm really confused about... When I first start, do I need to format the card in my NC first? Like before I put the SD Card into my computer and start on anything, is step one, put the (new-right-out-of-the-box-never-been-used-before) SD Card into my NC and format it and then I can begin the process? Or can I just skip that and go right into writing the image onto the card?
One: a bigger SD card is better. The NC doesn't have too much memory as is, so having an SD card allows you to store a lot more on it.
Also, no you don't need to keep doing nightlies. I just used the stable ROM and that's the last I've done with it.
I just got my new NC and found it is 1.3 version. There are few threads to introduce [how to] for 1.3.
I plan to repartition first and than use CM7 rom. Can anyone help to advise if there is difference to do with 1.3 compare those step by step guides for 1.2 version?
wwang1217 said:
I just got my new NC and found it is 1.3 version. There are few threads to introduce [how to] for 1.3.
I plan to repartition first and than use CM7 rom. Can anyone help to advise if there is difference to do with 1.3 compare those step by step guides for 1.2 version?
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I followed [ROM][CM7] [v1.3] Size-agnostic SD Card image and CM7 installer for SD Cards on my new NC on 1.3 and there isn't any difference from 1.2.
Following that guide I did everything it said but used 7.0.3 stable version instead of nightlies since this was my first time doing it. I'm really happy with everything and I eventually might just upgrade to the nightlies soon or use a different SD card to try it out.
I did have a problem where my app drawer was scrolling REALLY slow and sometimes like freezing up. It drove me absolutely crazyyy and I couldn't find any answers to fix it. I used TB and restored a few things from before it started happening and it still made no difference. I finally changed my wallpaper from a Live WP (Galaxy) to just a standard one from CM wall papers. What would you know, it fixed my slow scrolling/freezing problem and I was kicking myself for backing **** up when I didn't have to, and resetting up my desktop after I already had it set up how I liked it.
Another problem I ran into when I was first installing was that Win32DiskImager it kept saying my brand new SD card didn't have enough space, but I then tried using WinImage and that worked perfectly.
I've read sooooooo many threads for hours upon hours straight but I still can't find an answer to my realllyyyyy stupid question of what the "u" stands for in uSD hahaha So if anyone would be kind enough to tell me I'd greatly appreciate it as it's driving me crazy not knowing what the damn "u" stands for lol.
I will try to assist on a few questions. First the "u" in Usd stands for micro (thank the greeks for the strange lettering). As for rooting, let me clairify some of the terminology here.
Rooting does not change the stock operating system. It mearly gives you access to the core system settings allowing you to make changes to the system other than those allowed by the device manufacturer.
As for sd card size, most folks find either an 8 or 16 gb sd card to be sufficient. The comment made about the nooks storage is a bit misleading. For folks coming from a windoz environment, 8gb may seem to be very little storage space. I run my nook with the internal emmc memory partitioned to 5gb user, 2gb nook storage. The other gig is used for the OS and is not available. I have an 8gb class 4 sandisk sd. That being said, I run 153 apps and have aproximately 53% free storage. YMMV.
Sadly, I cannot offer any better sd card instillation instructions as I run cm7 from internal memory and have never had a need for the stock B&N software.
The debate about stable ROMs vs. Nightly builds is an ongoing one. The "stable" rom for cm7 is 7.0.3. I prefer to run 7.1 release candadate 1. Rc1 for short there have been many improvements in speed and stability with rc1 including support for usb access. The nightly builds add newer improvements and bug fixes. This is cutting edge stuff and can be left for later experimentation. 7.1 is extremly stable and should be your best start for a rom.
Installing a custom rom differs from rooting in that the custom rom is already rooted and gives you complete access to the system from the start. That being said, with great power comes great responsibility. You can really mess the system up if you play with settings before you understand the results.
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Thanks for your reply, I am reading this thread for more infromation than try to do it.
For uSD, like the above mentioned, the 'u' = 'μ', meaning micro, so the uSD is microSD or TF.
Been running nightly 176, close to the latest, on uSD card with no problems since it was first posted. My take after trying about a dozen in all is that the nightlies are generally more stable the later they are listed. TWIW.
Hey,
So I know there are a bunch of ROMs around for the Nook Color, but I was curious if anyone had a recommendation for a stable one for my wife's Nook Color? I was looking at Phiremod (both CM7 and MIUI Versions), MIUI, and CM7. So far the problem I am running into with all of them is the screen resolution/density as well as the sleep of death. What is a good stable ROM I can run on there? I don't need bells and whistles.... just something stable that can run android apps (including the Nook and Kindle Apps). Thanks.
-Eric
I'm on nightly 212 (CM7.1 stable will work just as well) and it has.been.by far the most stable ROM I've ever used for any device. I'm running it from the SD Card, and I would surely recommend it.
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I agree.. but be sure to notice in several other posts.. the brand and type of microSD card DOES matter.. Use a Sandisk class 2 or 4.
Before I got a Sandisk, it wasn't very stable. Afterwards.. like a rock.
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Hey,
a recommendation for a stable one for my wife's Nook Color? I was looking at Phiremod (both CM7 and MIUI Versions), MIUI, and CM7.
-Eric
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I have had my Wife's NookColor on MiUi for more than a month. Not one single hang or freeze.
Recovery CWM 3.2.0.1
ROM MIUI v 1.9.23 from MIUI.US
Kernel Dalingrin-OC-emmc-090111
Nook Color Tweaks Dalingrins NookColor Tweaks Audio Setup very useful.
Swype Beta Installer
From the Market:-
zMooth Lite to replace the included "Button Savor" App. Which I leave minimized, because it is difficult to hack out.
Titanium Backup
Rom Manager
Opera Mobile Browser
Replacement Apps from Market for Notes, Pictures, Music, Performance, Synchronizing of Stuff, document Editors, Kindel, Google Books etc.
Interface Launcher has Widgets, Folders and customize-able task-bar.
I had a little trouble during the first setup stage while familiarizing with "Button Savior". In particular the x key means hide the virtual keys, which get in the way of the keyboard. These Buttons serve as virtual "Android Buttons" The virtual buttons slide in from the right edge of the screen. They include all the usual Android Buttons. on, Back Button, Search Button, etc. Actually re-started re-flashed once I got the hang of it. and had no problems. Getting past the stage of entering data into the first few fields was the only frustration. After one installs zMooth you can ignore Button Savior and let it remain minimized, or kill it with a automated task killer.
The Rom has Working Bluetooth with an add-on to Astro File Manager, and also most of the other file managers.
I must have 25 apps of which I use 10 quite often. So far no problems with resolution etc.
Updated Market, and Cloned the whole thing with nandroid backup so that my wife's and my Nooks are identical. Only problem with this is that the Market thinks the two devices are one. It all works, but anything I download from Web Based Market via Web, goes to both devices.
If you know how to redo the Market initialization steps, to trigger a new signature creation step for each device I would be grateful.
I like running CM7 from the EMMC -- I find it's the fastest and most stable. I tried MIUI but I had issues with it and missed my app drawer. I use to run CM7 from the sd card and find running it straight from memory is more reliable.
She's going to love having a tablet! So much more than ereader... love my Nook!
EMMC CM7 had been the best in my experience as will.
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markusrow said:
I have had my Wife's NookColor on MiUi for more than a month. Not one single hang or freeze.
Recovery CWM 3.2.0.1
ROM MIUI v 1.9.23 from MIUI.US
Kernel Dalingrin-OC-emmc-090111
Nook Color Tweaks Dalingrins NookColor Tweaks Audio Setup very useful.
Swype Beta Installer
From the Market:-
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Thanks for the info.
Just a question, what exactly does Kernel Dalingrin-OC-emmc-090111, does on the device?
As i installed yesterday the CM7, after being on Manual Nooter, and i was wondering what are the benefits of Dalingrin, and if i have any implications if i install this through recovery...
Fekish said:
Thanks for the info.
Just a question, what exactly does Kernel Dalingrin-OC-emmc-090111, does on the device?
As i installed yesterday the CM7, after being on Manual Nooter, and i was wondering what are the benefits of Dalingrin, and if i have any implications if i install this through recovery...
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You are most welcome.
All ROMs include / require a Kernel (foundation layer - a Linux kernel). This is the software that is specifically tied to the particular hardware and bridges between the hardware and the body of the ROM. Current CM7.1 and MIUI both include / use Dalingrin's Kernel, which is in turn derived from B&N's kernel. MIUI is a branch of CM7.1 with work in creating a consistent and pleasing interface and removing aspects not required for this platform. The Dalingrin Kernel link is included so that you can follow what Dalingrin offers / updates in the future and flash it independently of the ROM if you wish to do so. Also Dalingrin and CyanogenMod developers deserve credit and thanks for the work in developing CM7 which MIUI have leveraged for their ROM.
The implication is that you can change / update Kernels for the NOOKColor (independently with care), (i.e. flash kernel over the delivered ROM Kernel,) and Dalingrin's Tweaks App works with the Rom and you can donate to Dalingrin by purchasing his App. Enable Under Volting save battery, and Over Clocking improve performance. Also as stated before, very very useful for setting the Audio gains in the best possible combination.
FYI, Dalingrin's kernel is included in the nightlies (has been for a while), so if you installed CM7 it's already there. It opens up a lot of features as well as the ability to Overclock for extra performance. It seems like most everyone has OC'd up to the max allowed by default which is 1.2ghz I think. It definitely makes the Nook a lot snappier with little trade-off.
Another vote for CM7.1 stable on eMMC. Solid as a rock.
davidr415 said:
I agree.. but be sure to notice in several other posts.. the brand and type of microSD card DOES matter.. Use a Sandisk class 2 or 4.
Before I got a Sandisk, it wasn't very stable. Afterwards.. like a rock.
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Did I miss something? I was always under the impression that you should not use anything less than a Class 6 SD card, especially if your running the ROM from the SD instead of EMMC.
Class 2/4 are too slow...
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Did I miss something? I was always under the impression that you should not use anything less than a Class 6 SD card, especially if your running the ROM from the SD instead of EMMC.
Class 2/4 are too slow...
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When using the SD to run the OS off of, the random access speed is what makes the difference. There were tests down before, but iirc the Sandisk cards showed the best random-access speed despite having a slower class (which measures sequential writes).
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When using the SD to run the OS off of, the random access speed is what makes the difference. There were tests down before, but iirc the Sandisk cards showed the best random-access speed despite having a slower class (which measures sequential writes).
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Not to get off topic, but does that apply to higher class Sandisk as well? Basically, a Class 6 Sandisk will outperform a Class 2/4 Sandisk in the Nook? I can't recall seeing the tests, this is why I ask.
You have received a lot of good advice here and I'm just going to throw my two cents' worth in.
I am a 53 year old woman who has tried every rom out there. I have settled on the Miui rom. #1 because it just looks nicer to my eyes than CM7. Fonts and icons are larger and 'prettier.' #2 because this rom has the most zip on my nook.
Right now I'm running 1.9.23. A week ago I restored my Nook to stock, installed Miui and installed my apps from the market - not from a backup and I have had zero freezes or SODs. I run over 150 apps, use launcher pro, with Facebook, gmail, calendar and pulse news reader updating frequently.
I also went into the spare parts app and set my wifi to sleep never.
Everyone has their favorite, but Miui wins my vote hands down.
Sent from my NookColor using xda premium
nismopc said:
Not to get off topic, but does that apply to higher class Sandisk as well? Basically, a Class 6 Sandisk will outperform a Class 2/4 Sandisk in the Nook? I can't recall seeing the tests, this is why I ask.
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I think this is the test I was thinking of... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102704
If I'm reading it correctly, the class doesn't seem to make a huge difference. I would think higher classes would be faster for at least some operations though.
nismopc said:
Not to get off topic, but does that apply to higher class Sandisk as well? Basically, a Class 6 Sandisk will outperform a Class 2/4 Sandisk in the Nook? I can't recall seeing the tests, this is why I ask.
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Check my sig for the links to see what the deal is.
Basically, class 2 or 4 SanDisk is what you want, 8 gig minimum, with better performance gains the higher the capacity of card. 16 gig performs better then 8, and 32 better then 16.
The reason is the level of attention manufacturers pay to small block read/write data pathways physically inside the card itself. Running android from the sdcard doesn't matter so much about large-block file transfer, it's all the small writes to and from memory that are important.
That kinda ties in with what I was gonna say to the OP, though, consider this:
I just bought my lady a Nook Color for her birthday, and set it up with the latest stable cm7 (7.1.0) and had it set to the internal memory. I figured, what the heck...she's not gonna do anything else with it.
Wrong move. Putting the finishing touches on it the night before I her birthday, I saw a problem with the screen, I pressed the app drawer icon and a wave of liquid flowed halfway across the screen. As the night wore on over the next hour or so, it got worse and started to become unresponsive.
Obvious hardware failure.
I spent the rest of the night setting up one of my good SanDisk memory cards with her installation on it, and wrote everything (pictures, icons, etc...) to the memory card and nothing to internal memory.
Now she has all her apps, custom icons I made for her, boot screens, albums of pictures from the time we spent together and so forth all on the MicroSd card.
When B&N opened the morning of her birthday, I took it back and exchanged it for a new one. Popped the memory card in, and it was good to go.
Now if her Nook Color ever fails her again (which is very infrequent, was just a bad one out of the factory) all she has to do is pop out her memory card and put it in another one, and it's like nothing ever happened.
Using verygreens installer, and the latest release of CM7, it's a seamless, fantastic setup. Honestly, i'll never install to internal memory again. I never did on my Nook Color, and given what happened there I can't see a reason to ever do so again.
From a dev standpoint, leaving the Nook Color stock on emmc has many advantages, and from a user standpoint the same can be said but for different reasons.
To each their own, but I spent a lot of time figuring out how to make it run well from the MicroSD card, and why some things didn't work as well.
The bonus is you don't void your warranty, and the stock Nook Color software will format any MicroSD card you put in it once it's booted, regardless of what the partition table on the card itself is like.
Just my .02 cents, best of luck with the Nook Color for your wife.
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If you do make an sd-card install and restore the emmc to stock, then keep this in mind:
I used to recommend the app "sd speed increase" made by a member here at xda, because it helped considerably with running from the sd-card.
Not anymore. The newest version of cm7 stable incorporates that fix into the build, and trying to run the app over it actually presents a decrease in performance.
CM7.1.0 is pretty optimized for sd-installs, in addition to running fantastically on internal memory (from what I hear anyways, i'll never know!)
Thanks for the info all. I just installed CM7 Stable on hers... seems to be running nicely.
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You have received a lot of good advice here and I'm just going to throw my two cents' worth in.
Right now I'm running 1.9.23. A week ago I restored my Nook to stock, installed Miui and installed my apps from the market - not from a backup and I have had zero freezes or SODs. I run over 150 apps, use launcher pro, with Facebook, gmail, calendar and pulse news reader updating frequently.
I also went into the spare parts app and set my wifi to sleep never.
Everyone has their favorite, but Miui wins my vote hands down.
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Currently MIUI gets my vote.
MIUI 1.9.23 with a clean install and app load was a huge improvement.
Cyanogen is constantly moving forward. I will try it from time to time, using Nandroid backup and restore to flip back - update - then see what I am missing.
It is a pitty that the two cannot coexist in a complementary way. No winners no loosers. I don't think that MIUI makes its features and customizations available so cannot be incorporated (on a selective merit basis) back into Cyanogen. They are not open like Cyanogen. So in the end Cyaongen may well win base on its support from community.
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Thanks for the info all. I just installed CM7 Stable on hers... seems to be running nicely.
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Awesome. By the way, despite the name, the nightlies are often very stable these days. I forget when the fixes were put in, but there have been a bunch of improvements including better battery life while sleeping since one of the main "stable" milestone builds. If you find some issues, it may be worth trying a nightly.
Also, you should backup your rom using Rom Manager and/or apps using nandroid or titanium backup. That has saved my butt a few times.
Good luck!
A few posts down is one titled [GUIDE] CM7.1... I followed that one from a factory restored firmware 1.0.0 and am more than pleased. I would give that a shot if I were you. Seems very stable and you shouldn't have to worry about upgrading for a while.
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Hey I'm pretty new to all of this stuff. I have had success rooting devices in the past and I wanted to try the Custom ROM deal out. I have been experimenting for the past couple days. I follow the instructions to the T and everything is working GREAT with CM 10.1-20130412 UNOFFICIAL with the GAPPS that is listing with this on the thread. We are good for about the first day....maybe only 2 or 3 reboots and no crashes. When I wake up in the morning and get to work and turn it on it wants to keep freezing at the boot animation, if it gets that far. After about 20 min or so of me powering off and powering on, it will finally boot the whole way into CM and if I get lucky it will stay running. Most times it will reboot at least once as soon as CM is up and running. If it does stay running then it will just freeze/flicker/and reboot at random times. I know it's beta but I don't seem to see this being talked about to much at least not to this extent. Could this be SD card related I have a class 10U 16gb Sandisk. I haven't tried any others because I really would like to use that 16 gigs.
Hello Jeremy,
Indeed, all the issues you have listed do occur; however, as you have stated, usually it's not to this extent. I'm using CyanogenMod10 on the Nook HD+ with no problems at all. It took around 1 month of daily usage of CyanogenMod for it to settle in and become stable. On a Nook HD (not plus), I am using CyanogenMod10.1, and more problems do occur on the HD over the HD+.
On both installs I am using a SanDisk Class 4, 4GB. These are said to be the best cards, with as few problems to occur, if any. Furthermore, it's wise to install a Hybrid installation of CyanogenMod, instead of installing the whole ROM on an SD card. If you're not on a Hybrid install, I would totally recommend it for your setup. You will definitely benefit, and your problems should be reduced significantly.
If your SD card was formatted perfectly before a CM install, then it will most likely be the SD card causing the problems; as the problems shouldn't lie elsewhere. Again, I would definitely install the Nook HD WIP Hybrid install. Problems with the ROM are at an all time low, however few problems do occur; but significantly less. The thread can be found on the Nook Android development section (I would post a link, but on iPhone ATM, sorry).
All the best.
Thanks for the reply
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Hello Jeremy,
Indeed, all the issues you have listed do occur; however, as you have stated, usually it's not to this extent. I'm using CyanogenMod10 on the Nook HD+ with no problems at all. It took around 1 month of daily usage of CyanogenMod for it to settle in and become stable. On a Nook HD (not plus), I am using CyanogenMod10.1, and more problems do occur on the HD over the HD+.
On both installs I am using a SanDisk Class 4, 4GB. These are said to be the best cards, with as few problems to occur, if any. Furthermore, it's wise to install a Hybrid installation of CyanogenMod, instead of installing the whole ROM on an SD card. If you're not on a Hybrid install, I would totally recommend it for your setup. You will definitely benefit, and your problems should be reduced significantly.
If your SD card was formatted perfectly before a CM install, then it will most likely be the SD card causing the problems; as the problems shouldn't lie elsewhere. Again, I would definitely install the Nook HD WIP Hybrid install. Problems with the ROM are at an all time low, however few problems do occur; but significantly less. The thread can be found on the Nook Android development section (I would post a link, but on iPhone ATM, sorry).
All the best.
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Thanks for the reply....After I posted this I went looking around my apt. and found a Sandisk 4g class 4 so I thought I would give that a shot. And WOW what a difference. ABSOLUTELY no issues. I ran it all night and all day today without a single crash...and no issues at all with boot up. Who would have thought a Sandisk class 4 would work bet then a Sandisk class 10U.