[Q] Gingerbread Bootloaders - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys hello,
I recently updated my phone firmware to Gingerbread (XWJVH Ficeto) Via Odin but i have noticed that the boot up logo Animation is way to slow than normal and the Shutdown logo animation is oppositely too fast..are these problems due to the OLD Froyo BOOTLOADERS ? ...while changing from Froyo to Gingerbread, i didn't Update any bootloaders (Ticking 'Phone Bootloader Update') in Odin when flashing..i didnt use the pda with bootloaders basically..my DOWNLOAD MODE and RECOVERY MODE are working fine..apart form the bootlogo's bugs. My question is do i need to update the phone bootloaders ? and if yes HOW do i proceed at this instant

danni_ind said:
My question is do i need to update the phone bootloaders ? and if yes HOW do i proceed at this instant
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The laggy bootscreen has nothing to do with the bootloaders. It has been like that since the early beta builds of 2.3.2.
It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to update the bootloaders. There is nothing to worry about flashing the bootloaders. Just don't do anything stupid, that's all. (Dropping phone while flashing, battery falling out, tripping over usb cable etc.)
Your best bet would be to flash a full rom with the bootloaders included. Either a JVH or JVO build... Take your pick.
After you get the stock rom with bootloaders flashed, move on to the custom rom of your choice.
Too easy mate.

okay i have the JVH package with bootloaders inside..do i need to Tick : Phone Bootloader Update in odin or they will update automatically without ticking..just flashing the normal way..
P.S : What if bootloader Update goes wrong ...JIG ready ?

Just flash it.
Don't have to tick bootloader update.

Hi, I have a little question (about GB bootloaders) that doesnt deserve another thread. I'm running JVK since it was released and I want to go back to Froyo (JS8), I have de ROM from SamFW but it doesnt include bootloaders (I think). Will JS8 work with GB bootloaders?

thanks guys
@ above yes gingerbread bootloaders are compatible with froyo...

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[Q] I Want to get back to stock rom?

As the title stated i want to get back to samsungs stock rom and kernal so i can upgrade my phone to 2.3 and get my warranty back.
First of all i need to disable the lagfix and the tweaks of course but after that should i flash back to samsungs original kernal or should i flash back to stock rom first?
My kernal version is:[email protected] #14(2.6.32.9)
Rom: I900XXJPY 2.2.1
Dumb question but i can't just upgrade my phone to 2.3 via the phone's self updater. I just want to be sure.
You don't give a ton of detail here. The first step would be to find a stock rom for your device and region (2.2.1, 2.2, 2.3 all would be OK) on samfirmware.com or ramad's collection here on XDA. Then flash with Odin.
Any stock rom that is right for your location should then update to the latest when you connect to kies (or so I hear I don't use Kies..)
It will contain a stock kernel so don't worry about that. Note though that if your phone is really screwed and that is why you are flashing a stock rom for warrenty then a custom rom might boot up but a stock rom may not.
If its just for resale then you should be good to go.
G
Thanks for the help man.. My phone is not screwed up but i'm starting notice that it is starting to "fall apart". So that's the reason i want my warrenty back.

[Q] General Bootloader and Kernel Questions

Hello all,
I have a few general questions that I would really like some help with:
1.) I understand some bootloaders are not compatible with some ROMs. How do you know which bootloader you are running? How do you change your bootloader, must you use ODIN?
2.) How does the kernel come into all this, are some kernels not compatible with certain ROMs and bootloaders? When you flash a new ROM, does it sometimes come with a new kernel?
The main reason I am curious about this, is because I wish to flash the new Cyanogenmod 7.1 and want to be sure I am successful and do not brick my captivate. I am currently running Serendipity VII Build 2 and want to be as safe as possible when flashing Cyanogenmod 7.1.
Would the safest way be to flash to stock first using the following Odin one click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Then from there, follow the instructions normally?
All help is greatly appreciated.
There are basically 2 types of bootloaders, Eclair/froyo and Gingerbread bootloaders. GB bootloaders are compatible with preatty much everything (not counting cm7 or MIUI).
Kernels are specific with a type of rom, example Boogs KH3 kernel worked with any rom that was based on KH3 (2.3.4). Some are tweaked specifically for a rom.
On CM7 and MIUI from what I can make out you can run it on either eclair/froyo bootloaders or GB bootloaders but some kernels are specific for bootloaders.
If you are on Serendipity then I am sure you used ODIN to flash i9000 boatloader (BL).
As the above person said there are eclair/froyo BL and GB BL....in GB BL we have captivate BLs and i9000 BLs. earlier GB roms used i9000 BL...then Samsung leaked captivate specific roms...so we have captivate BLs now..
All the one click Odins are used to flash captivate specific BL...
To go to CM7, many people flash it over GB bootloader and have no problem....but the safest way is to odin back to eclair/froyo stock...then go from there.....
viny2cool said:
If you are on Serendipity then I am sure you used ODIN to flash i9000 boatloader (BL).
As the above person said there are eclair/froyo BL and GB BL....in GB BL we have captivate BLs and i9000 BLs. earlier GB roms used i9000 BL...then Samsung leaked captivate specific roms...so we have captivate BLs now..
All the one click Odins are used to flash captivate specific BL...
To go to CM7, many people flash it over GB bootloader and have no problem....but the safest way is to odin back to eclair/froyo stock...then go from there.....
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Thank you for the help guys, I really appreciate it.
I will be flashing back to stock using the following method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Then I will simply flash CM&.1 on top of that.
I will report back to let everyone know how it goes.
did your phone come with froyo on it/what is the build number of your phone? its a 4 digit number on a sticker under the battery, for example mine is 1010, meaning oct. 2010. many phones built later than this, and/or came from the factory tend to bootloop from jf6 (the firmware containedin that one click) and have also been known to lose button combos for recovery/download mode which would need both if you were bootlooping and for cm7.
if you have a later build phone it would be better to flash a leaked gingerbread firmware with bootloaders included and then flash a custom kernel with cwm included so that you can then flash cm7 from there.
studacris said:
did your phone come with froyo on it/what is the build number of your phone? its a 4 digit number on a sticker under the battery, for example mine is 1010, meaning oct. 2010. many phones built later than this, and/or came from the factory tend to bootloop from jf6 (the firmware containedin that one click) and have also been known to lose button combos for recovery/download mode which would need both if you were bootlooping and for cm7.
if you have a later build phone it would be better to flash a leaked gingerbread firmware with bootloaders included and then flash a custom kernel with cwm included so that you can then flash cm7 from there.
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I purchased my phone at the end of August in 2010. The only 4 digit number I can see reads " 0168", it is the largest number located behind where the battery is held. And yes, I have lost my three button combo for recovery/download mode. It stopped working, and I bet it was because I used that one click method you mentioned.
Do you recommend I flash this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821
It says Cyanogen Mod users stay away, why is that?
or one from the official list, and if so, which one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
Also, I am a bit unclear. After I flash one of the stock ROMs with the bootloaders, how can I then flash a kernel with CWM. Can I do it through ODIN?
And just out of curiosity, why can you not use these stock ROMs for everyday use? It seems we always flash other ROMs on top of these?
I know I asked a lot, I would appreciate the help!
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I purchased my phone at the end of August in 2010. The only 4 digit number I can see reads " 0168", it is the largest number located behind where the battery is held. And yes, I have lost my three button combo for recovery/download mode. It stopped working, and I bet it was because I used that one click method you mentioned.
Do you recommend I flash this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821
It says Cyanogen Mod users stay away, why is that?
or one from the official list, and if so, which one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
Also, I am a bit unclear. After I flash one of the stock ROMs with the bootloaders, how can I then flash a kernel with CWM. Can I do it through ODIN?
And just out of curiosity, why can you not use these stock ROMs for everyday use? It seems we always flash other ROMs on top of these?
I know I asked a lot, I would appreciate the help!
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You can use the bootloaders in the first link. At the time of that thread's opening, cm7 didn't support GB bootloaders. But, if your not sure how your phone will work with a1 click, I would recommend using the ones linked in my sig.
As for how to flash those roms, there are directions in the first post of their respective for flashing.
You can use a stock ROM everyday, most just prefer not to.
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You can use the bootloaders in the first link. At the time of that thread's opening, cm7 didn't support GB bootloaders. But, if your not sure how your phone will work with a1 click, I would recommend using the ones linked in my sig.
As for how to flash those roms, there are directions in the first post of their respective for flashing.
You can use a stock ROM everyday, most just prefer not to.
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Which kernel would you recommend I flash before I flash CM7.1?
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Which kernel would you recommend I flash before I flash CM7.1?
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No one said you cannot use stock leaked rom as dialy driver, i actually used KH3 for some times and it was very good.
You should flash the kernel according to the rom you have flashed. For example, For KH3, there is a Boog's KH3 kernel with CWM. For all leaked stock rom, there is one click Odins and compatible kernels with CWM injected.
To go to CM7.1, u shud be on stock (Eclair/Froyo or GB) and should have CWM....
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....Also, I am a bit unclear. After I flash one of the stock ROMs with the bootloaders, how can I then flash a kernel with CWM. Can I do it through ODIN?....
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I need help too please. I have a Cappy that was originally on eclair 2.1 rooted. froyo 2.2 Kies mini update and rooted but didn't like it's battery use and slow action. I reflashed an Odin 1 click stock 2.1 back, rooted and then did a Gingerbread 2.3.5 I897UCKJ3_withBL_ Odin 1 click flash and am liking that quite a bit more. The only trouble I am having is rooting 2.3.5. I want to do the fugu kernal swap method with Odin3 zimage-root.tar then flash boog_KJ3_kernel3.tar. I can get into DL mode and hit the start button ok.
Here is the question I have. Where in Odin3 v1.83 do you load the kernal path? PIT,BOOTLOADER, PDA, PHONE or CSC. I can't seem to find a comprehensive Odin3 tutorial on my own and I don't want to flash the kernels to the wrong place. I don't think the first 3 options are right based on their names or info I have found. Can't use CWM till I get rooted so Odin or possibly Hiemdall are my only choices. I have Odin3.
HELP and TYIA
Bud
Kernels go in pda
When flashing a single file, unless its a modem or csc file, it will usually go into the pda slot. Modems go into the phone slot. Csc file is a no brainer. I've never saw anything that uses the bootloader slot on a captivate. Pit slot must have a pit file AND repartition must be checked. If you are flashing a kernel to get cwm just to flash a custom ROM, kernel goes into pda slot. If you want to user Odin to flash a modem, it goes into the phone slot. All files flashed in Odin must be a tar or tar.md5 file. Don't change the name of a tar.md5, it can cause a md5 check sum error.
There you go, cliff notes for Odin.
Edit
If I missed something or messed up something, please correct me.
Found Odin3 Answers. Yeah!!!
Studacris,
Thanks for that. Didn't see it before I found the below.
Sorry for the Noob impatience but there is a lot of info that won't show in a search right away. Anyway there is a cool little short video by 4-2ndtwin here on xda with a link here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17788928&postcount=6 The system won't let me post outside links yet.
viny2cool
Hope this helps you.
Bud
I Flashed and unbricked and reflashed and restored so many roms now, i have no idea what bootloader I am on. Is there any way for me to tell either through ADB or on the phone directly?
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I Flashed and unbricked and reflashed and restored so many roms now, i have no idea what bootloader I am on. Is there any way for me to tell either through ADB or on the phone directly?
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When ur phone boots up and u see the i9000 bootsplash, then u have i9000 Gingerbread bootloaders (we didn't have eclair/froyo i9000 Bls). Also, button combo to get into recovery or download mode is different with the i9000 gb bootloaders.
And if u try and flash an i897 gingerbread rom (and don't see the i9000) but u have a "pixelated" screen, then u have i897 eclair/froyo bootloaders. If ur flash to a gingerbread rom is successful and u see the i897 (att world phone) bootsplash, then u have i897 Gingerbread bootloaders.
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Gingerbread it is then, THANKS 4-2ndtwin

[q] sooo confused!!

hi people, this is my first post, so please be nice!
i've had the galaxy s and it's been rooted for a while, with a custom MIUI rom installed (not sure which one it is... but it's NOT the 2.3.4 one in the development section, it's version 1.7.1). i want to switch roms now, since the battery life is terrible, though the rom is great.
i've been looking through the development section for a new rom to flash, but a lot of them require some change to the firmware, bootloader, etc. the problem is, i don't know what bootloader, firmware, etc version i have
i rooted this phone when it was on STOCK 2.1 eclair ( i know, old), and i did flash a 2.2 rom before flashing this version of MIUI (2.3.4).
do roms change the bootloader? i came from an HTC device, so i don't really have an idea on whats the deal with the Galaxy S. HTC devices were a LOT easier (IMO).
i did a google search, but it didn't really help... O_O
so, if anyone can point me in the right direction, i will be VERY grateful.
thanks
'Settings -> About Phone' will show you your current firmware, etc.
Bootloaders usually only change for major revisions. If you're on Froyo (2.2) and want to flash a Gingerbread (2.3) firmware, you would need to upgrade from Froyo to Gingerbread bootloaders. If you're flashing from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4, you won't need to upgrade bootloaders. Flashing is done using the program Odin or Heimdall (or using a flashable zip via recovery, such as Clockworkmod Recoevery). Heimdall has the "flash bootloaders" right there for you to tick/untick, if I recall correctly. Some firmware files (pit, tar, etc—the files you flash with Odin) have bootloaders, some do not. I can't recall if there's an option within Odin to specify whether to flash the bootloaders or not. Either way, if you flash to an AOSP Gingerbread firmware, it's likely the bootloaders will be included.
So basically, just grab Odin/Heimdall and the necessary firmware files, and you're good to go! But before you do that, verify that download mode (volume down + home + power) works. If it does not, you'll need to get it working before you start flashing—otherwise you risk bricking your device.
If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask. We're here to help.
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'Settings -> About Phone' will show you your current firmware, etc.
Bootloaders usually only change for major revisions. If you're on Froyo (2.2) and want to flash a Gingerbread (2.3) firmware, you would need to upgrade from Froyo to Gingerbread bootloaders. If you're flashing from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4, you won't need to upgrade bootloaders. Flashing is done using the program Odin or Heimdall (or using a flashable zip via recovery, such as Clockworkmod Recoevery). Heimdall has the "flash bootloaders" right there for you to tick/untick, if I recall correctly. Some firmware files (pit, tar, etc—the files you flash with Odin) have bootloaders, some do not. I can't recall if there's an option within Odin to specify whether to flash the bootloaders or not. Either way, if you flash to an AOSP Gingerbread firmware, it's likely the bootloaders will be included.
So basically, just grab Odin/Heimdall and the necessary firmware files, and you're good to go! But before you do that, verify that download mode (volume down + home + power) works. If it does not, you'll need to get it working before you start flashing—otherwise you risk bricking your device.
If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask. We're here to help.
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when i go to settings/about phone it shows this:
model number: GT-19000
android version: 2.3.4
baseband version: 19000XXJVK
kernel version: [email protected] #1
build number: MIUI 1.7.1
so how do i know what my bootloader version is?
thanks for your help, still confused though...
Okaham said:
when i go to settings/about phone it shows this:
model number: GT-19000
android version: 2.3.4
baseband version: 19000XXJVK
kernel version: [email protected] #1
build number: MIUI 1.7.1
so how do i know what my bootloader version is?
thanks for your help, still confused though...
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Unfortunately, you won't be able to tell what bootloader you have. Since you're running 2.3.4, which is Gingerbread, I'd assume you have a Gingerbread bootloader—but if you flashed from Froyo to MIUI, it's likely you only have a Froyo bootloader.
If you're currently running MIUI, the best way to change to another custom ROM would be to flash (via Odin/Heimdall) to the latest AOSP Gingerbread firmware (including the bootloaders), and then flash via recovery (using a flashable zip) to the custom ROM of your choosing—unless they have a package to flash using Odin.
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Unfortunately, you won't be able to tell what bootloader you have. Since you're running 2.3.4, which is Gingerbread, I'd assume you have a Gingerbread bootloader—but if you flashed from Froyo to MIUI, it's likely you only have a Froyo bootloader.
If you're currently running MIUI, the best way to change to another custom ROM would be to flash (via Odin/Heimdall) to the latest AOSP Gingerbread firmware (including the bootloaders), and then flash via recovery (using a flashable zip) to the custom ROM of your choosing—unless they have a package to flash using Odin.
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i was on the stock 2.1 eclair galaxy s rom, and then i downloaded and flashed the baldoz rom, which used to be 2.2 (not sure if it still is). did that custom rom change my bootloader? so if i had the stock eclair 2.1 bootloader before, wouldn't i still have that bootloader right now? since you said MIUI doesn't change the bootloader?
Okaham said:
i was on the stock 2.1 eclair galaxy s rom, and then i downloaded and flashed the baldoz rom, which used to be 2.2 (not sure if it still is). did that custom rom change my bootloader? so if i had the stock eclair 2.1 bootloader before, wouldn't i still have that bootloader right now? since you said MIUI doesn't change the bootloader?
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If you used a flashable zip to flash via CWM, your bootloaders wouldn't have been changed. If you flashed via Odin, they may have been, depending on whether or not bootloaders were included in the files. (Although, for the most part, I don't believe many custom ROMs would include bootloaders, if any at all.)
Either way, your current bootloaders shouldn't matter much. I would still advise upgrading to Gingerbread bootloaders, as per the custom ROMs requirement (which I'm assuming most up-to-date ROMs will require, or at the very least recommend. For example, CM7 can run off of Froyo bootloaders or Gingerbread bootloaders, but battery life is negatively affected if you're using Froyo bootloaders.)
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If you used a flashable zip to flash via CWM, your bootloaders wouldn't have been changed. If you flashed via Odin, they may have been, depending on whether or not bootloaders were included in the files. (Although, for the most part, I don't believe many custom ROMs would include bootloaders, if any at all.)
Either way, your current bootloaders shouldn't matter much. I would still advise upgrading to Gingerbread bootloaders, as per the custom ROMs requirement (which I'm assuming most up-to-date ROMs will require, or at the very least recommend. For example, CM7 can run off of Froyo bootloaders or Gingerbread bootloaders, but battery life is negatively affected if you're using Froyo bootloaders.)
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thank you so much!
and can you please give me the links or something on how to flash the gingerbread radio in ODIN?
THANK YOU
Okaham said:
thank you so much!
and can you please give me the links or something on how to flash the gingerbread radio in ODIN?
THANK YOU
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139050
I googled it for you, and while I only skimmed that, it appears to be a very thorough tutorial.
Have fun! And thanks for the thanks.
upichie said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139050
I googled it for you, and while I only skimmed that, it appears to be a very thorough tutorial.
Have fun! And thanks for the thanks.
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thank you kind sir
this changes the bootloader to a 2.3 gingerbread one right?
Okaham said:
thank you kind sir
this changes the bootloader to a 2.3 gingerbread one right?
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Assuming the files you use to flash (via Odin/Heimdall) include the bootloaders, but it's likely they will.

[Q]Kies Mini 2.3 upgrade bootoaders

Hi, quick question. Can anyone confirm if the official 2.3.5 update through Kies Mini includes flashing gingerbread bootloaders? Until recently I've only run KB1 roms, but I now have CM7.1.
Briefly, I used Odin3 1-click to go to UCJF6, did a master clear, then used Kies Mini to go from 2.1 to 2.2 then 2.3 as per instructions. After that I went right to CM7.1 with no issues other than the expected bootloop after flashing the speedmod kernel which was resolved by flashing the rom.
BTW, I'm finding CM7.1 as solid and stable as I would ever need. (The main reason I stuck with KB1 releases for so long.) Many thanks to all the developers, maintainers, etc. for keeping the captivate alive.
Yeah to even run a STOCK GB rom you are required GB BL's... It won't boot without it...
And Why do you flash the speedmod on 2.1?! that was changed a long time ago...
Thanks for the reply. I went back to 2.1 because I hadn't come across Odin3 for 2.2. I was actually on 2.3 when I flashed the speedmod (according to what I read it is now safe to go this route.)
Ohh yahh, but you can One click to JF6, then flash the BL only ODIN, then it will reboot to recovery, apply update.zip, and flash from there!
OK, thanks. I'll remember that for future reference. Just wanted to confirm where I was at because apparently there is no straightforward way even through adb of checking your current bootloaders.

New to captivate, need help

OK, so I ran through all the guides and searched through what feels like a thousand posts. Here's my problem. I want to flash ICSSGS. Every guide I've read says I need to flash back to stock 2.1. I'm currently on the UCKK4 GB update. I used ODIN one click to flash back to 2.1, but couldn't get into download mode using any method (excluding JIG). So I used Kies to upgrade back to UCKK4. I can now get into download mode again. Can I just flash the bootloaders and a custom kernel from GB instead of being on Froyo?
No need to flash the bootloaders, you have the gingerbread ones thanks to kies, they work worth EVERYTHING so you do not need to ever flash bootloaders again.aahs i digest you don't, Cause flashing those is the only tine you cab hard brick.
Flash corn kernel with Odin right now on gingerbread, then boot into recovery factory reset and format /system, and flash the ics ROM twice. Bingo bango you're done.
Thanks. I'm just switching from a Sony X10 so things are a little different here. Every guide said start at 2.1 so I didn't think i could flash from GB. I want to try ICS, but the X10 builds are still alphas.
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Most of the guides on here are getting dated. But for the Captivate, once you have gingerbread bootloaders you can flash pretty much anything from anything. Exceptions would be Cyanogenmod.
capocaccia said:
Most of the guides on here are getting dated. But for the Captivate, once you have gingerbread bootloaders you can flash pretty much anything from anything. Exceptions would be Cyanogenmod.
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some people have reported that gingerbread bootloaders work with Cyanogenmod
He meant flash from CyanogenMod or any other MTD ROM to BML ROM
Again, thanks for the info. Maybe I'll write an updated guide after I get accustomed to this phone and ODIN. Flashtool for the X10 definitely spoiled me.
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OK, so I ran through all the guides and searched through what feels like a thousand posts. Here's my problem. I want to flash ICSSGS. Every guide I've read says I need to flash back to stock 2.1. I'm currently on the UCKK4 GB update. I used ODIN one click to flash back to 2.1, but couldn't get into download mode using any method (excluding JIG). So I used Kies to upgrade back to UCKK4. I can now get into download mode again. Can I just flash the bootloaders and a custom kernel from GB instead of being on Froyo?
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I have successfully flashed about 10 roms while having gb boot loader they include 2-3 version of cm7, two version of miui rom , and many more gb boot loader can run any older or newer rom on captivate no need to downgrade bootloader
I'm a quick learner. I just switched over from a Sony X10 that was running a MIUI rom. My wife bought an iPhone so I took over her phone. I'm still learning the ins and outs of the captivate and how it works. I'm loving this phone. It's capable of so much more than the X10. I'm also loving this ICSSGS rom. It's smooth as butter.
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