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There are a couple serious flaws that I have yet to see completely addressed, and I think people get a little carried away when they argue about these against some of the higher priced tablets like the galaxy, archos and streak7, and ipads.
There is market support, but its not full. Depending on whether I am using 2.1 or 2.2 I have different apps available. Ive tried switching between the two fingerprints out there, but regardless, its an issue.
Media Support.
Flash is passable on the 2.2 builds, and skyfire can do a decent job on the 2.1 builds, but still not where I personally would want my tablet to be.
A much bigger hindrance is the horrible media playback. Things I can view exceptionally well on my droid incredible I can hardly view at all on my nook color.
When running Froyo I cant access my Tversity Media Server at all while using Vplayer, and even on eclair its not the quality I would prefer to watch at.
Oddly enough, my Froyo 2.2 1.1 OC Nook Color plays worse then the Rooted Nook on 2.1. Speakers are awful as well.
I am not complaining, just trying to keep things in perspective.
Is this a great tablet? Yes.
Is this a great media tablet? No, however its passable if you dont mind re-encoding much of your media to LQ formats.
Is this as fully functional as people like to make it out atm? No. Though my fingers are crossed.
I've yet to find any media that I can view on my Incredible, but not on my Nook. The speakers suck, but that's a hardware issue, not a software one. No ammount of rooting is going to fix that.
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I've yet to find any media that I can view on my Incredible, but not on my Nook. The speakers suck, but that's a hardware issue, not a software one. No ammount of rooting is going to fix that.
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I'm waiting for something like these to set my Nook in to help with the speaker problem...
http://blog.laptopmag.com/powerless-iphone-speaker-round-up
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Is this a great media tablet? No, however its passable if you dont mind re-encoding much of your media to LQ formats.
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this is the reason why i tested the archos 101 & 70 and the galaxy tab. the nc is a far better general use tablet and the best "bang for your buck", but the archos is a better multimedia tablet - i kept the 101 since having 2 7" tablets didn't make much sense... then again having an ipad, nc and a101 doesn't make much sense either, lol.
the galaxy tab was between the nc and a70 in multimedia performance. better screen, but not as good with video & music playback. the archos was better in both departments imo. but the screen on the galaxy tab was the best of the 4. but at $550 i could get both the nc and the a101 and be happy.
Isn't the NC a eBook reader 1st? With that said, it's not suppose to do all of that right out of the box!!! With the from this community, the NC will be able (someday) to do all of those things. I bought my NC because of it's great potential and price!!!
I really don't understand what your getting at with this post OP..
I think the OP forgot the NC is an ebook reader
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I've yet to find any media that I can view on my Incredible, but not on my Nook. The speakers suck, but that's a hardware issue, not a software one. No ammount of rooting is going to fix that.
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no but a speaker upgrade would be sweet
hopefully someone who likes taking these things apart can come up with a guide.
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I think the OP forgot the NC is an ebook reader
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And the hacks are being done from people on their free time. It's the best ebook reader/semi-tablet you can get for the price.
just got done ripping a dvd using the handbrake settings in another thread.
must say it looks pretty damn good on the NC.
very smooth and clear.... not up to blu ray but VERY NICE dvd quality video.
true hi-def video playback is going to cost you some more $$ if thats what you need.
hoping the NC gets hardware decoding for avi files soon. Other than that I'm really happy with it
Once we get DSP support in Froyo/Honeycomb, we'll have awesome multimedia support.
I got one last week and today after it auto updated itself to 1.1 I decided to auto-nooter it. The process went smooth, I installed the ADW launcher, live wallpapers and some apps and after playing with it for a while I'm very pleased with the purchase. I have an Android phone (Samsung Galaxy) and this tablet is a nice extension of the already familiar OS. I have not tried hi res video on it yet, but internet and games and utility apps are perfectly fine on it. It's a great little device and the integrated book reader part is a nice bonus.
I have to agree - NC is amazing
I paid $249 for an e-book reader and have gotten so much more thanks to the folks on this forum. As an e-book reader, I've been very pleased with my NC. However, after changing it over to a tablet-ish device, it's become a constant companion!
Yes, I have to move my movie collection over to MP4 for viewing. I bought a 32GB card for that. So far, all my movies play great. MP3s work just fine as well. And most of the Android apps I want work well. And surprisingly, both my Slacker Radio apps (with caching) and my Audible e-book accounts work perfectly.
I was not looking for a media device when I bought the Nook Color. I wanted an e-book reader that I could hack and play with. Well, I do that and more!
So here's the choice. For under $300, you can buy a media device (like one of the Archos or an IPod Touch) that might read e-books or you can buy an e-book reader that, with a little work and a touch of bravery, can be a 90% media device as well.
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There are a couple serious flaws that I have yet to see completely addressed, and I think people get a little carried away when they argue about these against some of the higher priced tablets like the galaxy, archos and streak7, and ipads.
There is market support, but its not full. Depending on whether I am using 2.1 or 2.2 I have different apps available. Ive tried switching between the two fingerprints out there, but regardless, its an issue.
Media Support.
Flash is passable on the 2.2 builds, and skyfire can do a decent job on the 2.1 builds, but still not where I personally would want my tablet to be.
A much bigger hindrance is the horrible media playback. Things I can view exceptionally well on my droid incredible I can hardly view at all on my nook color.
When running Froyo I cant access my Tversity Media Server at all while using Vplayer, and even on eclair its not the quality I would prefer to watch at.
Oddly enough, my Froyo 2.2 1.1 OC Nook Color plays worse then the Rooted Nook on 2.1. Speakers are awful as well.
I am not complaining, just trying to keep things in perspective.
Is this a great tablet? Yes.
Is this a great media tablet? No, however its passable if you dont mind re-encoding much of your media to LQ formats.
Is this as fully functional as people like to make it out atm? No. Though my fingers are crossed.
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Well fix.it.it.then
lafester said:
just got done ripping a dvd using the handbrake settings in another thread.
must say it looks pretty damn good on the NC.
very smooth and clear.... not up to blu ray but VERY NICE dvd quality video.
true hi-def video playback is going to cost you some more $$ if thats what you need.
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I think that the issue is that the nook color restricts the video resolution to less than the resolution of the screen for no reason at all. Also, it requires encoding video to watch on it when it could play most videos fine without encoding if not for self imposed software restrictions.
I understood when I pulled the trigger on the NC that this was developed as an eBook reader. With that in mind, rooting it and making it an Android device opens up a lot more avenues of functionality. Yes the Android App market is no where near where the Apple iTunes app store is, but Apple had a 3 year head start with that. App developers are going to bring their apps to the Android market to capture/provide for the increased market share, it will just take some time.
Keep in mind...these Android tablets are quite new to the market, it is still gathering up steam. iPad has had a year head start, and 3+ year of app store head start.
With that said, yes, the Nook Color doesn't excel because the software that was designed for it isn't even on par to what Apple offers. NC is not that great of an av device, even paired up with some mid-range Shure noise isolation ear buds. But give it time, apps will mature, the market is there. If you don't like what the Nook Color can be made to do for $250+ and a little time to research and execute, then go grab a glorified Android Tablet that will cost $500+ and most likely locked down so you can't customize it for even better functionality.
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I'm waiting for something like these to set my Nook in to help with the speaker problem...
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I use the Wowee One portable speaker on my (newly purchased) Nook Color, and it works incredibly well. Check it out on Amazon or Youtube.
Was given my NC, had it "customized" 2 days later,
Have done customized two more for family members, one works in English, the other Korean and my wife is making hints about where hers is now....
B&N has listed the nc as the best selling device they have ever sold and these forums and others like it are why.
Thank you everyone who has worked so hard on this across all the dev sites.
For video playback I use rockplayer, plays almost all formats very well. This thing is great for $250, awesome screen, plays games pretty well, does video great for me and is much lighter than my ipad. I think things will only go up from here, and here is pretty nice right now.
I've just sold my netbook and now i'm buying a tablet.
Here is the best place to ask this because you guys unlock the full potential of the devices, so: should I get an Ipad or a Nook Color?
I have decided for an Ipad 2 long ago because IOS has the best support for medical apps (that I use a lot). For example I have an android phone (Defy) but keep carrying my ipod touch just for the medical apps that simply doesn't exist on Android Market. This week i'm in doubt because someone offered me a new Nook Color for HALF the price of the Ipad 2 32GB Wifi.
I've searched for NC capabilities and now it's running Gingerbread and soon Honeycomb, and it's pretty snappy (same specs of Defy), so now i'm just lost.
So, should I get a Nook Color? What about medical apps, battery life, multimedia capabilities, browser performance?
Thanks in advance!
Sadly I don't think the Nook Color competes with the Ipad2. And I honestly don't know if it's going to have the medical apps you need, being you have a defy shouldn't you know what it does or doesn't have?
The nook color is smaller and easier to use on the go.
With a custom rom (cm7), battery life isn't the best (4-7hrs continuous use).
Browser is very nice with Opera Mobile.
Videos play very nicely on it in my opinion, others are still having trouble with it or care far more for hardware acceleration on 720p videos =\.
The nook color is $250 retail... So if you're getting it for half of what the Ipad 2 is going for (depending on where you're getting it, you're getting it for the same price as retail or ripped off.)
That said, if apps are your thing, IOS has had more time to mature. If customizability and price are your thing, nook color all the way.
But, at the Ipad2 price point a Xoom (wifi) or the Asus EEEtransformer (not out yet) would be a better comparison for price.
Edit: I see you're not based in the U.S, so I understand now that the Ipad 2 or NC could be far more where you live. In that case, you might want to get the Nook Color (apps from ios are continually making their way to android) and just wait for the apps. And just keep using your ipod touch for what's not available yet.
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Sadly I don't think the Nook Color competes with the Ipad2. And I honestly don't know if it's going to have the medical apps you need, being you have a defy shouldn't you know what it does or doesn't have?
The nook color is smaller and easier to use on the go.
With a custom rom (cm7), battery life isn't the best (4-7hrs continuous use).
Browser is very nice with Opera Mobile.
Videos play very nicely on it in my opinion, others are still having trouble with it or care far more for hardware acceleration on 720p videos =\.
The nook color is $250 retail... So if you're getting it for half of what the Ipad 2 is going for (depending on where you're getting it, you're getting it for the same price as retail or ripped off.)
That said, if apps are your thing, IOS has had more time to mature. If customizability and price are your thing, nook color all the way.
But, at the Ipad2 price point a Xoom (wifi) or the Asus EEEtransformer (not out yet) would be a better comparison for price.
Edit: I see you're not based in the U.S, so I understand now that the Ipad 2 or NC could be far more where you live. In that case, you might want to get the Nook Color (apps from ios are continually making their way to android) and just wait for the apps. And just keep using your ipod touch for what's not available yet.
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Thanks for the quick answer!
You're right, here in my country the gadgets are MUCH more expensive than in the US, the taxes over these products are over 60%! And the only tablets officially available here are Ipad 1 and GalaxyTab.
And here the Ipad is the gold standard for everything, brazilian magazines and newspapers are released only on Itunes, no Android support here...
But it's good to know that the Nook is getting so neat, coming from a cheap reader to an almost full fledged tablet.
What in the medical field do you do? I have friends in medical school that swear by the iPad and its app, specifically the anatomy ones. I'm about to start and settled on the nook due to my personality. I know the iPad will distract me into another level. While the nook is hacked together enough where it gets my tasks in order and allows me to read PowerPoints but doesn't make me want to play games on it all day long. The fact that it's 300 dollars cheaper and only 7 inches didn't hurt either. The only thing I've been wishing for is Google body.
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What in the medical field do you do? I have friends in medical school that swear by the iPad and its app, specifically the anatomy ones. I'm about to start and settled on the nook due to my personality. I know the iPad will distract me into another level. While the nook is hacked together enough where it gets my tasks in order and allows me to read PowerPoints but doesn't make me want to play games on it all day long. The fact that it's 300 dollars cheaper and only 7 inches didn't hurt either. The only thing I've been wishing for is Google body.
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I'm a physician, working with primary care/family medicine and applying for residency.
My use for a tablet will be internet browsing, medical apps, ppt viewing, pdf/ebook reading and some music apps in my spare time.
On IOS I use Lexi-comp, skyscape, medcalc and isilo reader.
The iPad is better hardware by far. If you jailbreak it you can do all sorts of good stuff.
The screen on an iPad can be written on with a stylus easily. I love android but apple hardware is sexy.
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I'm a physician, working with primary care/family medicine and applying for residency.
My use for a tablet will be internet browsing, medical apps, ppt viewing, pdf/ebook reading and some music apps in my spare time.
On IOS I use Lexi-comp, skyscape, medcalc and isilo reader.
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About to start residency do you think you have time to worry about following forums, troubleshooting, doing workarounds, flashing and tinkering? If you think you do, then grab the nook Color. The thing about Android for me is, it's never been set it and forget it. I'm always changing something. To be frank, if you expect to use your device in your profession and not just after hours and not have to worry about it not booting because you overclocked it too high, I'd spring for the iPad. This is coming from someone who can't stand Apple, owns none of their products, and is typing this on a nook Color.
To muddy he waters a bit more, my NC running CM7 is pretty much set it and forget it. Even overwriting with nightlies every few days takes about 10 minutes and I'm back to running my NC perfectly afterwards.
My counterpoint is that if you use a tablet for any document that is rich in illustrations/graphics, the NC's screen and hardware will not cut it. I would suggest an iPad above all else for that reason.
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About to start residency do you think you have time to worry about following forums, troubleshooting, doing workarounds, flashing and tinkering? If you think you do, then grab the nook Color. The thing about Android for me is, it's never been set it and forget it. I'm always changing something. To be frank, if you expect to use your device in your profession and not just after hours and not have to worry about it not booting because you overclocked it too high, I'd spring for the iPad. This is coming from someone who can't stand Apple, owns none of their products, and is typing this on a nook Color.
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Lack of time is an issue for sure, but I love tinkerin with my gadgets.
Are the custom Nook roms stable?
Can it run Froyo, Gingerbread or Honeycomb 100% functional?
Ultimately I want that my gadgets "just work".
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To muddy he waters a bit more, my NC running CM7 is pretty much set it and forget it. Even overwriting with nightlies every few days takes about 10 minutes and I'm back to running my NC perfectly afterwards.
My counterpoint is that if you use a tablet for any document that is rich in illustrations/graphics, the NC's screen and hardware will not cut it. I would suggest an iPad above all else for that reason.
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Good to know that Cyanogen is THAT stable on the Nook. And what do you mean by "won't cut it"? The Nook can't handle PDFs or image rich documents in a snappy way?
id say Ipad 2 or Xoom
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Good to know that Cyanogen is THAT stable on the Nook. And what do you mean by "won't cut it"? The Nook can't handle PDFs or image rich documents in a snappy way?
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That's correct.
If you're reading epub then NC is the way to go. If you're doing PDFs then you'll definitely want a bigger screen.
The real question is, do you need a tablet right now? and do you mind being locked down to iTunes?
If waiting is an option you might be interested in the Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 that's set to come out in June. Stock Honeycomb. No Apple lock-down.
FYI CyanogenMod 7 is perfectly stable and I just used my NC (running CM7 nightlies) for a month-long vacation abroad without issues. On iPad I find typing a chore because the slab is so huge, and you can't travel without fearing an iPad will be crushed or torqued.
I personally find that the 7" screen is far more portable. As far as PDF's go, so long as it's not heavily illustrated (as in the book is just scanned in and is 500mbs, not ocr'ed, etc.) then it will do fine. In fact I love reading on the nook color with Ezpdf reader.
But Ipad has the software right now... In the end though, it's just a big Ipod touch.
Right now and for the foreseeable future (the next 12 months) iOS is the way to go if you need a polished machine for real work. The application library is simply going to blow away anything Android has, not to mention Honeycomb. And because of the Apple "cachet" one would expect that medical and legal applications would find a much larger market on the iPad than any given Andoroid device.
The Nook Color, right now is one of two things:
1) A nice, highly portable e-reader that can surf the web (for those who don't root)
2) A cheap tweakable hobbyist machine for those who want to explore the ponetial of tablets without dropping five bills on an iPad.
I love my Nook Color, but I don't actually expect to get "real work" done on it.
I love my NC. It is just more portable than the ipad or ipad 2. plus the price is much more acceptable to me. However, like other users have said, ios is more mature. I use my NC for lots of things, but some medical applications are currenly available only for ios (for now, many are getting written for android with the increased popularity of android tablets). I have CM7 running off of an sd card and have had no stability issues.
I use docs2go for my doc and pdf files and they seem to render pretty well on it. I have medscape, lexicomp, and epocrates on my nook and they run quite well (medscape and epocrates are free). On my android phone i have some skyscape applications (skyscape is one of the best sources for medical texts in my opinion). Look at skyscape.com for their selection. They are not cheap, but they are very thorough and can find may of the texts that you will be required to have are in full version on that site. They also make apps for ios.
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2) A cheap tweakable hobbyist machine for those who want to explore the ponetial of tablets without dropping five bills on an iPad.
I love my Nook Color, but I don't actually expect to get "real work" done on it.
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No offense, but perhaps you need to give you NC another shot. Frankly, aside from updating CM as they com out with better builds (which takes 10 min, and is nothing more than an update like in Windows, which does not destroy anything), i haven't tweaked in some time. But what i DO use it for, is checking mail while out of the office, looking up things online, reading and editing work documents anywhere (thank you Quick Office), having fun with it when i need some R&R, and having quick access to both my calendar and gmail.
Why you don't think you can get "real work" done on it is beyond me...
I think the samsung gtab will be 350 for work only if your not interested in bn reader for magazines
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I love my NC. It is just more portable than the ipad or ipad 2. plus the price is much more acceptable to me. However, like other users have said, ios is more mature. I use my NC for lots of things, but some medical applications are currenly available only for ios (for now, many are getting written for android with the increased popularity of android tablets). I have CM7 running off of an sd card and have had no stability issues.
I use docs2go for my doc and pdf files and they seem to render pretty well on it. I have medscape, lexicomp, and epocrates on my nook and they run quite well (medscape and epocrates are free). On my android phone i have some skyscape applications (skyscape is one of the best sources for medical texts in my opinion). Look at skyscape.com for their selection. They are not cheap, but they are very thorough and can find may of the texts that you will be required to have are in full version on that site. They also make apps for ios.
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Looks like you're doing with your nook all the things that I want to do.
I have tried medscape, isilo and pdf reading (repligo) on my Android phone that is fairly similar to the Nook Color (Defy, 800mhz, 512MB ram) and the performance and usability are quite good.
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On IOS I use Lexi-comp, skyscape, medcalc and isilo reader.
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All of those apps are in the android market most of the better medical content providers have made their products available on both iOS and android. Medscape took a long time to get there
The Nook isn't as good as the iPad for reading PDFs and powerpoints however, mostly due to the smaller screen. This is esp. true for documents with two or more columns.
If money is a concern, you may be better off looking for a cheap 10" android tablet or a first generation iPad. If money is NOT a concern, I don't think you'll be unhappy with an iPad 2
What specific applications do you need?
If you don't need proprietary reference materials, then android has everything you need. I use Epocrates and some medical calculators, and hit Wikipedia if I want to refresh my memory on something. UpToDate is always an option for more in-depth reading.
For documents, I recommend converting all of your old material to text format, and using any of the myriad notepad apps on android. Or you could use Google Docs.
The NC is very stable, even with a modded ROM. I use rooted stock - it does everything I need and is trivially easy to do. I keep Froyo, CM7, and Honeycomb on SD cards to play with. The stickies may installing these ROMs quite easy. You can always install onto an SD card, in order to keep the NC itself stock.
The main disadvantage to the NC is the 7" form factor, which is also its main advantage. I played with an iPad in the store, and it is sooo much more cumbersome to hold than the NC. However, even if you wanted the larger screen, I would strongly consider an android 10" tablet.
Got the chance to play with the blackberry playbook and this thing is amazingly fast almost as fast as ipad2. Multitasking is mind boggling i tried running 4 hd videos simultaneously and never had a single hickup. I love the interface a lot better than an ipad and android. Hulu works in the browser as its a full web browsing experience. The lcd screen is as good as the ipad if not better as the color is more saturated the only downside is the fewer apps available. The dual core texas instrument 1ghz processor with parallel multitasking does makes the difference its so much fun to use.
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Got the chance to play with the blackberry playbook and this thing is amazingly fast almost as fast as ipad2. Multitasking is mind boggling i tried running 4 hd videos simultaneously and never had a single hickup. I love the interface a lot better than an ipad and android. Hulu works in the browser as its a full web browsing experience. The lcd screen is as good as the ipad if not better as the color is more saturated the only downside is the fewer apps available. The dual core texas instrument 1ghz processor with parallel multitasking does makes the difference its so much fun to use.
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Curious, how does one run 4 HD videos at once?
Seems okay but still think I will opt out for the ipad2 just cause its more well put together tablet and it just works. Like the fact you will be able to run some android apps on it, don't like the fact that you MUST have an blackberry(with the bb data plan) to fully use the tablet at times.
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Seems okay but still think I will opt out for the ipad2 just cause its more well put together tablet and it just works. Like the fact you will be able to run some android apps on it, don't like the fact that you MUST have an blackberry(with the bb data plan) to fully use the tablet at times.
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I got the first gen iPad but the lack of full web functionality turned me off after a while. Not being able to view... practically half of the internet because of the lack of flash was a big thing for me. That and the fact that, while it's a great machine and great for what it does, it's kind of limited in what all it can really do.
iOS is boring; to me anyway. And after the initial magic and shine wore off... there was really nothing interesting to do with the device.
Yeah I think I am on the same boat. Ios is very limited. Looking into getting the playbook this weekend.
the camera video quality is awesome
Good,good,good
Indeed it is... Can't wait to get my hands on mine.
If anyone is looking for a tower defense game with a twist I suggest checking out Lonely Turret for the Blackberry Playbook (I know the dev ). I've tried the game out on a simulator and became addicted quickly - looking forward to trying it out on the actual playbook myself. But definitely give it a look if you have a playbook and want a good game.
Intesting. I had only heard bad things about the device until now. I wonder if they'll backpedal on the whole "you need a BB phone" fiasco. It really makes no ****ing sense.
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Intesting. I had only heard bad things about the device until now. I wonder if they'll backpedal on the whole "you need a BB phone" fiasco. It really makes no ****ing sense.
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I don't think they'll quite go back on it; doing so would look bad for the company and show Co dimers a big feature they worked hard on just to To can in the end.
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So, coming from Blackberry World and posting from my Playbook, RIM has definitively said the Bridge requirement will be gone by mid June. The standalone PIM apps were demo'd multiple times. And, of course, a Sprint LTE version is coming then as well.
No specific date on the Android player yet, although it was demo'd live as well. The Android apps that were shown were brought over without assistance from the original devs and no source required. It's just a repackage of the apk.
This hardware is fantastic and QNX is blazing fast.
Yeah I really like the look of this tablet. Also all of the things that are flaws with it atm, seem to be getting ironed out by RIM soon. The intuitive way RIM have even done the controls for the Android player are awesome. The only thing I'd say is they could have brought it out in a 7" and 10" model just for choice as if you're really looking for compact, you could pickup the 7" but if you're looking at buying it for the media aspect you could just buy the 10". But it's RIM's first tablet so I can see why they only brought out the one size... Now to start saving.
Oh yeah I'm also wondering how RIM are going to handle the updating of Android apps. It would be cool if there was a program made that would convert the apk's to what ever file type is needed for the QNX OS.
Oh and of course, what hacking (if any) is going to be like. All to look forward to.
Sorry for the delayed response
A 10" version is planned. Expect it before the end of the calendar year.
Also, the .bar file format on the Playbook is not much different from a .apk file. It is just a compressed file with some metadata. All the developer has to do is unzip and rezip their current release essentially. I am sure there is a tool in the SDK for developers to rezip their app.
I would imagine it won't be long before an after the fact tool is available to users so they can take an apk from their phone and turn it into a bar file.
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A 10" version is planned. Expect it before the end of the calendar year.
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Do you know when QNX will be showing up on the smartphones ? I heard OS 7 will be mixed with it ( QNX ).
The Playbook definitely looks tempting, too bad you can't get it here in Australia plus the lack of a 10 incher now means I'm looking for a transformer
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Tempted but hav a xoom n nook plus kindle 2
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So, coming from Blackberry World and posting from my Playbook, RIM has definitively said the Bridge requirement will be gone by mid June. The standalone PIM apps were demo'd multiple times. And, of course, a Sprint LTE version is coming then as well.
No specific date on the Android player yet, although it was demo'd live as well. The Android apps that were shown were brought over without assistance from the original devs and no source required. It's just a repackage of the apk.
This hardware is fantastic and QNX is blazing fast.
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Well that's really good to hear. The sadly I haven't had any time to spend with the tablet itself but from what I have seen it looks like a great product.
The next time I'm around a best buy ill definitely drop by and take a look.
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The big B&N Announced their new Nook today, and no it's not Color. It's what I had suspected, a New eInk Reader to compete directly with the Kindle.
Here are the Specs:
- 6 inch Touchscreen(Infared based)
- eInk Pearl Display
- 8 ounces
- 2gb Internal Memory - MicroSD Expandable
(NOTE: B&N says 1gb free space with possibly 750mb of that reserved for B&N content)
- 2 Month Battery Life with WiFi off, 3 weeks with WiFi on
- Fast Page Turning (Screen Refresh)
- Library eBook Support
- WiFi b/g/n
- Free WiFi access from B&N and AT&T
- Support ePub PDF JPG PNG GIF BMP
- Android 2.1 OS (Completely Modified UI)
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/index.asp?PID=35699
Comparison of Nook 2 and Amazon Kindle 3
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/compare/index.asp?PID=38254
Videos
B&N Nook 2 Demo:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw7ixu2sZmQ
B&N Nook 2 360°:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u3E29S10_w
Quick Spec Overview:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yofcFZecOag
Cnet First Look:http://cnettv.cnet.com/new-nook-e-reader/9742-1_53-50105359.html?tag=api&partTag=cbsmobile
Engadget Hands-On:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtXRHn-Mh34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkbEqqIOUkE
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How long till someone gets CM7 working on this?
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How long till someone gets CM7 working on this?
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Doubt it since there's no LCD display and it probably doesn't run Android, or at least a heavily modded version of Android.
I won't give up on it being Rooted eventually, but we'll have to see when it comes out.
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So it's like ppl guessed, an e-link pad.
I think I am good with my sony ereader, and 6 inch is a bit too small for me, in their website there isn't anything about hardware spec.
I was hoping for a new nook color, but I guess they need wait for the whole ipad2 things gone.
It's Android 2.1, as indicated during the post-announcement Q&A session. TI [email protected] MHz. 2GB onboard with uSD slot.
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Doubt it since there's no LCD display and it probably doesn't run Android, or at least a heavily modded version of Android.
I won't give up on it being Rooted eventually, but we'll have to see when it comes out.
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I read somewhere it's running 2.1. Not sure why you'd want to put CM7... or anything else on there, though... other than the "because it can be done" factor... like running MAME on your digital camera's LCD.
Yep it runs Android after I read the fine print so there's a good chance it'll be Rooted but I won't bet on it.
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I read somewhere it's running 2.1. Not sure why you'd want to put CM7... or anything else on there, though... other than the "because it can be done" factor... like running MAME on your digital camera's LCD.
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Remember only 2gb of Internal Mem. It also says that there'll be about 1gb free with possibly 750mb of that reserved for B&N content.
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Sucks thetere won't be a Web Browser. Atleast, not at launch.
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Don't see the point of rooting this, with an e ink display.
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
I Am Marino said:
Don't see the point of rooting this, with an e ink display.
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
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There's plenty of reasons, just think of what you could do on the Nook Original. With a Full eInk touchscreen you could be pretty creative.
Also this solves the Autograph problem. With a Touchscreen your favorite Author could literally sign your eBook. Hope B&N enable/allow this.
On a side note, I wonder what they're using for the touchscreen. Is it Infared like the new Kobo eReader?
EDIT: It does use Infared
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Do you mean "infrared," as in the wavelengths of red light beyond the visible spectrum?
Anyway, it looks better than a Kindle (fast page turns are huge), but I prefer having a single all-media device with LCD (like...Nook Color!).
I guess I'm not seeing the big problem with the e-ink display. Sure it isn't color, but I can think of a lot of uses for a smaller device with a much improved battery life.
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I guess I'm not seeing the big problem with the e-ink display. Sure it isn't color, but I can think of a lot of uses for a smaller device with a much improved battery life.
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No one's objecting to the e-ink display, just saying it would be pointless to root it. I can see the appeal of e-ink, but for me there's more appeal in having fewer devices, and while e-ink is very good at what it does--displaying readable text without a backlight and without drawing power--it's not good for much of anything else.
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No one's objecting to the e-ink display, just saying it would be pointless to root it. I can see the appeal of e-ink, but for me there's more appeal in having fewer devices, and while e-ink is very good at what it does--displaying readable text without a backlight and without drawing power--it's not good for much of anything else.
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There's your point for rooting it.
My reason for rooting would be to install an Android build with Market Support and Google Apps such as a browser or Google Reader, seeing as I'm an RSS junky this would be perfect for me. Either installing a clean slate build or modifying the default Nook rom to allow these features would make my life complete.
All I'd have to do is tether my EVO to my Nook E-reader and I'd be getting the best of both worlds. My EVO would be saving battery life versus normal operating condition because the screen would be off and my Nook would be almost as versatile for reading text as my EVO, but with much better battery life.
This is ALL about battery life, not overclocking, watching flash or playing Angry Birds. Rooting Android on an e-reader display is a whole new realm for XDA'ers to tinker with. What about optimizing Android Applications for E-ink displays? Imagine creating a Google Reader App specifically for E-ink that saves battery life and improves the reading experience?
I'm so excited by the prospect of an E-ink Android device. Used a few experimental handhelds at CES this year, but they were all in Chinese and frozen, so for B&N to release a name brand device that achieves this technology makes me all giddy.
The "800MHz OMAP3" spec is almost certainly the same OMAP3621 we've been enjoying for the last 6 months. I'm interested to see if they made the microsd come before emmc in the boot order, and if the e-ink is just another framebuffer as on the original.
2 month battery life /drooooooolllllllllll
It really does look quite nice.
I can definitely see the advantages that could come from rooting it- though it would be nice if those just came standard. The opposition to a browser eating up the 3G data beyond its intended purpose isn't a factor when it's a 3G only device.
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There's your point for rooting it.
My reason for rooting would be to install an Android build with Market Support and Google Apps such as a browser or Google Reader, seeing as I'm an RSS junky this would be perfect for me. Either installing a clean slate build or modifying the default Nook rom to allow these features would make my life complete.
All I'd have to do is tether my EVO to my Nook E-reader and I'd be getting the best of both worlds. My EVO would be saving battery life versus normal operating condition because the screen would be off and my Nook would be almost as versatile for reading text as my EVO, but with much better battery life.
This is ALL about battery life, not overclocking, watching flash or playing Angry Birds. Rooting Android on an e-reader display is a whole new realm for XDA'ers to tinker with. What about optimizing Android Applications for E-ink displays? Imagine creating a Google Reader App specifically for E-ink that saves battery life and improves the reading experience?
I'm so excited by the prospect of an E-ink Android device. Used a few experimental handhelds at CES this year, but they were all in Chinese and frozen, so for B&N to release a name brand device that achieves this technology makes me all giddy.
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I agree. Just because it can't show Animations/Video doesn't mean it's not worth it to Root. When I think about how much I use ReadItLater/Instapaper, Engadget, Cnet, Opera Mini, ect... Having an Android 2.1 eInk device with a Battery that lasts 1-2 months(WiFi On/Off) makes me drool.
Sucks that I probably won't be getting it because off my lack of disposable income. The only reason I have a Nook Color is because it was a gift(I don't even have a smartphone). But whenever I see gadgets like this compete, driving features up and prices down, I can't help but dream.
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So most likely friday I am buying a tablet. I want it mainly for internet, ereading, movies, music making notes for class and showing my photography. The thing is there is apps that I want but aren't on the B and N store. Facebook, gmail and pintrest aren't too big an issue because I can go on the website. But some others I am disappointed they don't have. I have been looking at the HD and Nexus 7. My major reason why I am leaning towards the Nook is because it can have an sd card (i am not a cloud storage person right now) and some of the magazines I want say that they can be only used on the Nook. Not to mention the new scapbook thing would be useful. I always find cool things in magazines and forget that would be a nice touch though. I have been reading about a possibility of sideloading apps. Wondering if it would be worth it to get the HD or go with the Nexus. Is there a way to sideload apps without getting rid of the nook interface. I know there is rooting and roms that will probably come but I like how the nook works. Anyhow thanks in advance.
Your reason for picking the Nook HD is the same as mine. I do photography for fun, although I keep hearing only good things about my works. Sideloading isn't hard, but it appear people are having some problem getting ADB to work, which is actually a per-requisite for sideloading. I have the benefit of being a geek first, and photography being second if not third. So, tinkering with the Nook become easy for me. You can side load a lot of app, w/o having to use google app store. To actually use non-B&N app store, you do require more hacking than just sideloading. If you aren't comfortable with it, I would say go for Nexus. That said, I would say both HD and Nexus 7 is actually a wrong choice for what you are looking forward to do with your device. The 10 inches version of them are probably better suited for movie watching and showcase your photo since they at least can display 1080p. And that's the reason I got the Nook HD+. If you can tinker with the Nook, then it's a good choice, otherwise I would say go with the other since the list of apps available on B&N is pretty pathetic.
Thanks for the reply. I thought about the ten inch but I was looking at them both and I actually like the picture on the hd better. It was a slight difference and I like the portability better. I am still undecided on size. I rooted my phone before and I am pretty good with tech stuff. I figure stuff out pretty quick. So I am jot worried about that. I am trying to start a photography business so that is why I need the photos looking good and it seems like the nook has the best screen right now. I have an android phone so its like to me if I cant put it on the nook I can on my phone but something's would be better on the tablet. So if you sideload is it stil on the normal nook interface? Will the apps show up on it?
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Yes, on the 7-8 inches, Nook is pretty good, but when it come to 10 inches, I heard the Nexus is better. On the other hand, iPad is better at color accuracy as the screen is profile very close to sRGB. That said, the glossy screen is not something I enjoy. The iPad 3 screen is much glossier than Nook. If you are intended to use it for business. If color is critical then you might have to pick up iPad and put a screen protector that minimize the reflectiveness. And yes loading picture would be a pain also since you can't just dump them on the SD and have to use Apple software. Also access picture on NAS/SAN is another problem on iOS. I'm not even aware of any color profile or calibration tool on Android at all.
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Yes, on the 7-8 inches, Nook is pretty good, but when it come to 10 inches, I heard the Nexus is better. On the other hand, iPad is better at color accuracy as the screen is profile very close to sRGB. That said, the glossy screen is not something I enjoy. The iPad 3 screen is much glossier than Nook. If you are intended to use it for business. If color is critical then you might have to pick up iPad and put a screen protector that minimize the reflectiveness. And yes loading picture would be a pain also since you can't just dump them on the SD and have to use Apple software. Also access picture on NAS/SAN is another problem on iOS. I'm not even aware of any color profile or calibration tool on Android at all.
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Well I refuse to buy an ipad or anything Apple on principle. Lol. It's more of just having it for to show people the stuff I have but yeah it's more for pleasure except for the picture part. I don't know I think I will go for the nook and if I really need something different I can always get something else. I really want the Win 8 pro ones but they a lot more then I can spend right now. I am looking in the 200 - 300 range. Thank you for your help though.
I hate Apple as much as you do, but I buy what works for me regardless of brand. That said if there are choices that inclucde non-apple brand, I most likely go that route. I have absolutely no problem buying an Apple 15" retina MacBookPro and put Windows on it because nobody else making the spec that met my need. Yes I can take advantage of that native high res screen.
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Well I refuse to buy an ipad or anything Apple on principle. Lol. It's more of just having it for to show people the stuff I have but yeah it's more for pleasure except for the picture part. I don't know I think I will go for the nook and if I really need something different I can always get something else. I really want the Win 8 pro ones but they a lot more then I can spend right now. I am looking in the 200 - 300 range. Thank you for your help though.
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I have a ElineUSA Prodigy EL908 10 inch (9.7 inch) tablet. Pictures are super sharp on this tablet. It can even play 1080 dpi Hi def videos. It has a micro SD card slot for loading pictures, music, books etc. You can get it in 16gb or 32gb versions. It has 1 gb RAM. Front and back cameras. The glass is IPS laminate (same as IPad). Let me know if you are intrested I can hook you up wth one. Running ICS 4.04 at the moment, but Jelly Bean should be available shortly.
Per my new announcement here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34478962#post34478962
I am closing this thread. Please follow the "Request a new forum" link, and let the staff know a board for the HD is needed.
Per the NEW announcement,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34819554#post34819554
I redeclare this thread open...