The big B&N Announced their new Nook today, and no it's not Color. It's what I had suspected, a New eInk Reader to compete directly with the Kindle.
Here are the Specs:
- 6 inch Touchscreen(Infared based)
- eInk Pearl Display
- 8 ounces
- 2gb Internal Memory - MicroSD Expandable
(NOTE: B&N says 1gb free space with possibly 750mb of that reserved for B&N content)
- 2 Month Battery Life with WiFi off, 3 weeks with WiFi on
- Fast Page Turning (Screen Refresh)
- Library eBook Support
- WiFi b/g/n
- Free WiFi access from B&N and AT&T
- Support ePub PDF JPG PNG GIF BMP
- Android 2.1 OS (Completely Modified UI)
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/index.asp?PID=35699
Comparison of Nook 2 and Amazon Kindle 3
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/compare/index.asp?PID=38254
Videos
B&N Nook 2 Demo:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw7ixu2sZmQ
B&N Nook 2 360°:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u3E29S10_w
Quick Spec Overview:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yofcFZecOag
Cnet First Look:http://cnettv.cnet.com/new-nook-e-reader/9742-1_53-50105359.html?tag=api&partTag=cbsmobile
Engadget Hands-On:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtXRHn-Mh34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkbEqqIOUkE
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How long till someone gets CM7 working on this?
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How long till someone gets CM7 working on this?
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Doubt it since there's no LCD display and it probably doesn't run Android, or at least a heavily modded version of Android.
I won't give up on it being Rooted eventually, but we'll have to see when it comes out.
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So it's like ppl guessed, an e-link pad.
I think I am good with my sony ereader, and 6 inch is a bit too small for me, in their website there isn't anything about hardware spec.
I was hoping for a new nook color, but I guess they need wait for the whole ipad2 things gone.
It's Android 2.1, as indicated during the post-announcement Q&A session. TI [email protected] MHz. 2GB onboard with uSD slot.
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Doubt it since there's no LCD display and it probably doesn't run Android, or at least a heavily modded version of Android.
I won't give up on it being Rooted eventually, but we'll have to see when it comes out.
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I read somewhere it's running 2.1. Not sure why you'd want to put CM7... or anything else on there, though... other than the "because it can be done" factor... like running MAME on your digital camera's LCD.
Yep it runs Android after I read the fine print so there's a good chance it'll be Rooted but I won't bet on it.
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I read somewhere it's running 2.1. Not sure why you'd want to put CM7... or anything else on there, though... other than the "because it can be done" factor... like running MAME on your digital camera's LCD.
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Remember only 2gb of Internal Mem. It also says that there'll be about 1gb free with possibly 750mb of that reserved for B&N content.
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Sucks thetere won't be a Web Browser. Atleast, not at launch.
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Don't see the point of rooting this, with an e ink display.
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
I Am Marino said:
Don't see the point of rooting this, with an e ink display.
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
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There's plenty of reasons, just think of what you could do on the Nook Original. With a Full eInk touchscreen you could be pretty creative.
Also this solves the Autograph problem. With a Touchscreen your favorite Author could literally sign your eBook. Hope B&N enable/allow this.
On a side note, I wonder what they're using for the touchscreen. Is it Infared like the new Kobo eReader?
EDIT: It does use Infared
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Do you mean "infrared," as in the wavelengths of red light beyond the visible spectrum?
Anyway, it looks better than a Kindle (fast page turns are huge), but I prefer having a single all-media device with LCD (like...Nook Color!).
I guess I'm not seeing the big problem with the e-ink display. Sure it isn't color, but I can think of a lot of uses for a smaller device with a much improved battery life.
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I guess I'm not seeing the big problem with the e-ink display. Sure it isn't color, but I can think of a lot of uses for a smaller device with a much improved battery life.
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No one's objecting to the e-ink display, just saying it would be pointless to root it. I can see the appeal of e-ink, but for me there's more appeal in having fewer devices, and while e-ink is very good at what it does--displaying readable text without a backlight and without drawing power--it's not good for much of anything else.
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No one's objecting to the e-ink display, just saying it would be pointless to root it. I can see the appeal of e-ink, but for me there's more appeal in having fewer devices, and while e-ink is very good at what it does--displaying readable text without a backlight and without drawing power--it's not good for much of anything else.
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There's your point for rooting it.
My reason for rooting would be to install an Android build with Market Support and Google Apps such as a browser or Google Reader, seeing as I'm an RSS junky this would be perfect for me. Either installing a clean slate build or modifying the default Nook rom to allow these features would make my life complete.
All I'd have to do is tether my EVO to my Nook E-reader and I'd be getting the best of both worlds. My EVO would be saving battery life versus normal operating condition because the screen would be off and my Nook would be almost as versatile for reading text as my EVO, but with much better battery life.
This is ALL about battery life, not overclocking, watching flash or playing Angry Birds. Rooting Android on an e-reader display is a whole new realm for XDA'ers to tinker with. What about optimizing Android Applications for E-ink displays? Imagine creating a Google Reader App specifically for E-ink that saves battery life and improves the reading experience?
I'm so excited by the prospect of an E-ink Android device. Used a few experimental handhelds at CES this year, but they were all in Chinese and frozen, so for B&N to release a name brand device that achieves this technology makes me all giddy.
The "800MHz OMAP3" spec is almost certainly the same OMAP3621 we've been enjoying for the last 6 months. I'm interested to see if they made the microsd come before emmc in the boot order, and if the e-ink is just another framebuffer as on the original.
2 month battery life /drooooooolllllllllll
It really does look quite nice.
I can definitely see the advantages that could come from rooting it- though it would be nice if those just came standard. The opposition to a browser eating up the 3G data beyond its intended purpose isn't a factor when it's a 3G only device.
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There's your point for rooting it.
My reason for rooting would be to install an Android build with Market Support and Google Apps such as a browser or Google Reader, seeing as I'm an RSS junky this would be perfect for me. Either installing a clean slate build or modifying the default Nook rom to allow these features would make my life complete.
All I'd have to do is tether my EVO to my Nook E-reader and I'd be getting the best of both worlds. My EVO would be saving battery life versus normal operating condition because the screen would be off and my Nook would be almost as versatile for reading text as my EVO, but with much better battery life.
This is ALL about battery life, not overclocking, watching flash or playing Angry Birds. Rooting Android on an e-reader display is a whole new realm for XDA'ers to tinker with. What about optimizing Android Applications for E-ink displays? Imagine creating a Google Reader App specifically for E-ink that saves battery life and improves the reading experience?
I'm so excited by the prospect of an E-ink Android device. Used a few experimental handhelds at CES this year, but they were all in Chinese and frozen, so for B&N to release a name brand device that achieves this technology makes me all giddy.
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I agree. Just because it can't show Animations/Video doesn't mean it's not worth it to Root. When I think about how much I use ReadItLater/Instapaper, Engadget, Cnet, Opera Mini, ect... Having an Android 2.1 eInk device with a Battery that lasts 1-2 months(WiFi On/Off) makes me drool.
Sucks that I probably won't be getting it because off my lack of disposable income. The only reason I have a Nook Color is because it was a gift(I don't even have a smartphone). But whenever I see gadgets like this compete, driving features up and prices down, I can't help but dream.
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Just bought a NC. Thought about a gtablet, but the complaints about the screen were too hard to ignore.
I plan on surfing the web and reading books about 90% of the time. Watching a flash video on espn.com here and there would be nice, but not essential since I always have a laptop and droid x with me. No interest in playing games or watching movies on it.
Should I just stick with stock or root it? And if rooting is the way to go, will my 2gb class 2 Sandisk microsd card do, or do I need something else?
And is the market nook app the same as the stock reader or worse?
Thanks.
I would root it, do some of the mods....you really will enjoy it.
You can root it and still use all of the stock B&N software. Rooting it will give you full access to the Android market and allow you to install apps such as Dolphin Browser (much better than the stock one IMHO). Alas it still will not have flash support, but B&N is supposed to be adding it in an update before too long.
A two gig card should work fine for rooting your NC just be sure to read all of the instructions and cautions thoroughly.
I would definitely root it. I use my Nook for reading about 90% of the time as well, but rooting definitely improves the functionality aspect of the reading experience, such as being able to read comic books, download library books directly to the device, putting your sideloading books directly on the homescreen, etc.
Not to mention you'll still have full access to all of your BN features.
I assume you mean go with 2.1 for now instead of froyo?
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I assume you mean go with 2.1 for now instead of froyo?
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Yes, in other words, root the ROM as-is, so you have all of the B&N functionality, plus you can add to it. My wife uses her Nook for Facebook and reading.
I updated to 1.0.1, nooted, installed ADW, Facebook, some misc other stuff. Her softkeys are set up the same way as I suggest to everyone (see signature), ADW is the default launcher WITHIN Softkeys. She hits the button in the status bar to get to the B&N apps, otherwise she launches Facebook or what not from ADW Launcher.
It's simple and works great for her.
Go 2.1. There are fewer caveats and its a tad more stable. You can always go 2.2 after its up to snuff.
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Go for ooted 2.1, doesn't break B&N reading software and adds lots of features.
And yes to root even a 1 GB sd card would do, autonooter image is like 40 Mb.
You'll be amazed with what you can do with just the plain ROOT
If you only really want to read or surf, the Nook is terrific at those things. However, maybe one of the cheaper tablets would also do well at these? Like Pan Digital Novel, or a Coby or something? Or am I being a crazy person?
Root it! I thought BN interface was painfully slow. Us zeam, launcherpro or adw launchers and then just put the library and shop icons on your home screen. I like that setup much nicer and easier to use.
I use it as a reader about 80% of the time now, and I'm still glad I rooted. It means I can use the Kindle app or the Alkiko app, it means I can customize my homepage much better, it means I can download apps that allow me to transfer files wireless etc.
Just rooted, thanks all
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If you only really want to read or surf, the Nook is terrific at those things. However, maybe one of the cheaper tablets would also do well at these? Like Pan Digital Novel, or a Coby or something? Or am I being a crazy person?
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@markiejones: lol it seems you are indeed being a crazy person.
the Pandigital novel is pretty much junk. It is low quality materials at a bargain price. Browsing the web or reading is not a very pleasant experience on the device.
The Kobo is another bargain reader. It has no web browsing whatsoever and is limited severely by it's eInk screen in terms of capability, and has a fairly small storage capacity.
Both devices also run on a pretty meager processor, contributing more to their inefficiencies.
You mean people actually buy these things to read with them?
You're probably right, but the second device i was referring to was a Coby Kyros 7015 which is an actual tablet and considered" not bad"
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I've just sold my netbook and now i'm buying a tablet.
Here is the best place to ask this because you guys unlock the full potential of the devices, so: should I get an Ipad or a Nook Color?
I have decided for an Ipad 2 long ago because IOS has the best support for medical apps (that I use a lot). For example I have an android phone (Defy) but keep carrying my ipod touch just for the medical apps that simply doesn't exist on Android Market. This week i'm in doubt because someone offered me a new Nook Color for HALF the price of the Ipad 2 32GB Wifi.
I've searched for NC capabilities and now it's running Gingerbread and soon Honeycomb, and it's pretty snappy (same specs of Defy), so now i'm just lost.
So, should I get a Nook Color? What about medical apps, battery life, multimedia capabilities, browser performance?
Thanks in advance!
Sadly I don't think the Nook Color competes with the Ipad2. And I honestly don't know if it's going to have the medical apps you need, being you have a defy shouldn't you know what it does or doesn't have?
The nook color is smaller and easier to use on the go.
With a custom rom (cm7), battery life isn't the best (4-7hrs continuous use).
Browser is very nice with Opera Mobile.
Videos play very nicely on it in my opinion, others are still having trouble with it or care far more for hardware acceleration on 720p videos =\.
The nook color is $250 retail... So if you're getting it for half of what the Ipad 2 is going for (depending on where you're getting it, you're getting it for the same price as retail or ripped off.)
That said, if apps are your thing, IOS has had more time to mature. If customizability and price are your thing, nook color all the way.
But, at the Ipad2 price point a Xoom (wifi) or the Asus EEEtransformer (not out yet) would be a better comparison for price.
Edit: I see you're not based in the U.S, so I understand now that the Ipad 2 or NC could be far more where you live. In that case, you might want to get the Nook Color (apps from ios are continually making their way to android) and just wait for the apps. And just keep using your ipod touch for what's not available yet.
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Sadly I don't think the Nook Color competes with the Ipad2. And I honestly don't know if it's going to have the medical apps you need, being you have a defy shouldn't you know what it does or doesn't have?
The nook color is smaller and easier to use on the go.
With a custom rom (cm7), battery life isn't the best (4-7hrs continuous use).
Browser is very nice with Opera Mobile.
Videos play very nicely on it in my opinion, others are still having trouble with it or care far more for hardware acceleration on 720p videos =\.
The nook color is $250 retail... So if you're getting it for half of what the Ipad 2 is going for (depending on where you're getting it, you're getting it for the same price as retail or ripped off.)
That said, if apps are your thing, IOS has had more time to mature. If customizability and price are your thing, nook color all the way.
But, at the Ipad2 price point a Xoom (wifi) or the Asus EEEtransformer (not out yet) would be a better comparison for price.
Edit: I see you're not based in the U.S, so I understand now that the Ipad 2 or NC could be far more where you live. In that case, you might want to get the Nook Color (apps from ios are continually making their way to android) and just wait for the apps. And just keep using your ipod touch for what's not available yet.
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Thanks for the quick answer!
You're right, here in my country the gadgets are MUCH more expensive than in the US, the taxes over these products are over 60%! And the only tablets officially available here are Ipad 1 and GalaxyTab.
And here the Ipad is the gold standard for everything, brazilian magazines and newspapers are released only on Itunes, no Android support here...
But it's good to know that the Nook is getting so neat, coming from a cheap reader to an almost full fledged tablet.
What in the medical field do you do? I have friends in medical school that swear by the iPad and its app, specifically the anatomy ones. I'm about to start and settled on the nook due to my personality. I know the iPad will distract me into another level. While the nook is hacked together enough where it gets my tasks in order and allows me to read PowerPoints but doesn't make me want to play games on it all day long. The fact that it's 300 dollars cheaper and only 7 inches didn't hurt either. The only thing I've been wishing for is Google body.
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What in the medical field do you do? I have friends in medical school that swear by the iPad and its app, specifically the anatomy ones. I'm about to start and settled on the nook due to my personality. I know the iPad will distract me into another level. While the nook is hacked together enough where it gets my tasks in order and allows me to read PowerPoints but doesn't make me want to play games on it all day long. The fact that it's 300 dollars cheaper and only 7 inches didn't hurt either. The only thing I've been wishing for is Google body.
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I'm a physician, working with primary care/family medicine and applying for residency.
My use for a tablet will be internet browsing, medical apps, ppt viewing, pdf/ebook reading and some music apps in my spare time.
On IOS I use Lexi-comp, skyscape, medcalc and isilo reader.
The iPad is better hardware by far. If you jailbreak it you can do all sorts of good stuff.
The screen on an iPad can be written on with a stylus easily. I love android but apple hardware is sexy.
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I'm a physician, working with primary care/family medicine and applying for residency.
My use for a tablet will be internet browsing, medical apps, ppt viewing, pdf/ebook reading and some music apps in my spare time.
On IOS I use Lexi-comp, skyscape, medcalc and isilo reader.
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About to start residency do you think you have time to worry about following forums, troubleshooting, doing workarounds, flashing and tinkering? If you think you do, then grab the nook Color. The thing about Android for me is, it's never been set it and forget it. I'm always changing something. To be frank, if you expect to use your device in your profession and not just after hours and not have to worry about it not booting because you overclocked it too high, I'd spring for the iPad. This is coming from someone who can't stand Apple, owns none of their products, and is typing this on a nook Color.
To muddy he waters a bit more, my NC running CM7 is pretty much set it and forget it. Even overwriting with nightlies every few days takes about 10 minutes and I'm back to running my NC perfectly afterwards.
My counterpoint is that if you use a tablet for any document that is rich in illustrations/graphics, the NC's screen and hardware will not cut it. I would suggest an iPad above all else for that reason.
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About to start residency do you think you have time to worry about following forums, troubleshooting, doing workarounds, flashing and tinkering? If you think you do, then grab the nook Color. The thing about Android for me is, it's never been set it and forget it. I'm always changing something. To be frank, if you expect to use your device in your profession and not just after hours and not have to worry about it not booting because you overclocked it too high, I'd spring for the iPad. This is coming from someone who can't stand Apple, owns none of their products, and is typing this on a nook Color.
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Lack of time is an issue for sure, but I love tinkerin with my gadgets.
Are the custom Nook roms stable?
Can it run Froyo, Gingerbread or Honeycomb 100% functional?
Ultimately I want that my gadgets "just work".
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To muddy he waters a bit more, my NC running CM7 is pretty much set it and forget it. Even overwriting with nightlies every few days takes about 10 minutes and I'm back to running my NC perfectly afterwards.
My counterpoint is that if you use a tablet for any document that is rich in illustrations/graphics, the NC's screen and hardware will not cut it. I would suggest an iPad above all else for that reason.
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Good to know that Cyanogen is THAT stable on the Nook. And what do you mean by "won't cut it"? The Nook can't handle PDFs or image rich documents in a snappy way?
id say Ipad 2 or Xoom
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Good to know that Cyanogen is THAT stable on the Nook. And what do you mean by "won't cut it"? The Nook can't handle PDFs or image rich documents in a snappy way?
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That's correct.
If you're reading epub then NC is the way to go. If you're doing PDFs then you'll definitely want a bigger screen.
The real question is, do you need a tablet right now? and do you mind being locked down to iTunes?
If waiting is an option you might be interested in the Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 that's set to come out in June. Stock Honeycomb. No Apple lock-down.
FYI CyanogenMod 7 is perfectly stable and I just used my NC (running CM7 nightlies) for a month-long vacation abroad without issues. On iPad I find typing a chore because the slab is so huge, and you can't travel without fearing an iPad will be crushed or torqued.
I personally find that the 7" screen is far more portable. As far as PDF's go, so long as it's not heavily illustrated (as in the book is just scanned in and is 500mbs, not ocr'ed, etc.) then it will do fine. In fact I love reading on the nook color with Ezpdf reader.
But Ipad has the software right now... In the end though, it's just a big Ipod touch.
Right now and for the foreseeable future (the next 12 months) iOS is the way to go if you need a polished machine for real work. The application library is simply going to blow away anything Android has, not to mention Honeycomb. And because of the Apple "cachet" one would expect that medical and legal applications would find a much larger market on the iPad than any given Andoroid device.
The Nook Color, right now is one of two things:
1) A nice, highly portable e-reader that can surf the web (for those who don't root)
2) A cheap tweakable hobbyist machine for those who want to explore the ponetial of tablets without dropping five bills on an iPad.
I love my Nook Color, but I don't actually expect to get "real work" done on it.
I love my NC. It is just more portable than the ipad or ipad 2. plus the price is much more acceptable to me. However, like other users have said, ios is more mature. I use my NC for lots of things, but some medical applications are currenly available only for ios (for now, many are getting written for android with the increased popularity of android tablets). I have CM7 running off of an sd card and have had no stability issues.
I use docs2go for my doc and pdf files and they seem to render pretty well on it. I have medscape, lexicomp, and epocrates on my nook and they run quite well (medscape and epocrates are free). On my android phone i have some skyscape applications (skyscape is one of the best sources for medical texts in my opinion). Look at skyscape.com for their selection. They are not cheap, but they are very thorough and can find may of the texts that you will be required to have are in full version on that site. They also make apps for ios.
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2) A cheap tweakable hobbyist machine for those who want to explore the ponetial of tablets without dropping five bills on an iPad.
I love my Nook Color, but I don't actually expect to get "real work" done on it.
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No offense, but perhaps you need to give you NC another shot. Frankly, aside from updating CM as they com out with better builds (which takes 10 min, and is nothing more than an update like in Windows, which does not destroy anything), i haven't tweaked in some time. But what i DO use it for, is checking mail while out of the office, looking up things online, reading and editing work documents anywhere (thank you Quick Office), having fun with it when i need some R&R, and having quick access to both my calendar and gmail.
Why you don't think you can get "real work" done on it is beyond me...
I think the samsung gtab will be 350 for work only if your not interested in bn reader for magazines
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I love my NC. It is just more portable than the ipad or ipad 2. plus the price is much more acceptable to me. However, like other users have said, ios is more mature. I use my NC for lots of things, but some medical applications are currenly available only for ios (for now, many are getting written for android with the increased popularity of android tablets). I have CM7 running off of an sd card and have had no stability issues.
I use docs2go for my doc and pdf files and they seem to render pretty well on it. I have medscape, lexicomp, and epocrates on my nook and they run quite well (medscape and epocrates are free). On my android phone i have some skyscape applications (skyscape is one of the best sources for medical texts in my opinion). Look at skyscape.com for their selection. They are not cheap, but they are very thorough and can find may of the texts that you will be required to have are in full version on that site. They also make apps for ios.
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Looks like you're doing with your nook all the things that I want to do.
I have tried medscape, isilo and pdf reading (repligo) on my Android phone that is fairly similar to the Nook Color (Defy, 800mhz, 512MB ram) and the performance and usability are quite good.
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On IOS I use Lexi-comp, skyscape, medcalc and isilo reader.
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All of those apps are in the android market most of the better medical content providers have made their products available on both iOS and android. Medscape took a long time to get there
The Nook isn't as good as the iPad for reading PDFs and powerpoints however, mostly due to the smaller screen. This is esp. true for documents with two or more columns.
If money is a concern, you may be better off looking for a cheap 10" android tablet or a first generation iPad. If money is NOT a concern, I don't think you'll be unhappy with an iPad 2
What specific applications do you need?
If you don't need proprietary reference materials, then android has everything you need. I use Epocrates and some medical calculators, and hit Wikipedia if I want to refresh my memory on something. UpToDate is always an option for more in-depth reading.
For documents, I recommend converting all of your old material to text format, and using any of the myriad notepad apps on android. Or you could use Google Docs.
The NC is very stable, even with a modded ROM. I use rooted stock - it does everything I need and is trivially easy to do. I keep Froyo, CM7, and Honeycomb on SD cards to play with. The stickies may installing these ROMs quite easy. You can always install onto an SD card, in order to keep the NC itself stock.
The main disadvantage to the NC is the 7" form factor, which is also its main advantage. I played with an iPad in the store, and it is sooo much more cumbersome to hold than the NC. However, even if you wanted the larger screen, I would strongly consider an android 10" tablet.
Thanks to cm7, the nook is now awesome, loving netflix
http://blog.gosecureauth.com/blog/nook-vs-xoom-david-vs-goliath
I wonder if B&N will try to put a stop to this. We can speculate but I wonder what their position is. If they aren't making much on the hardware (if anything) they might decide to take some action.
Maybe it will depend on how much they are making on books. If it meets their projections they might take our "mis-use" as noise and not worry about it. They still get the benefit of people seeing Nooks out there even if we aren't using them in B&N mode. I suspect the people running CM7 is small compared to the sales for book use.
I played with a Xoom the other day and those babies are way faster than the Nook Color so I'm not so sure that Netflix is exactly an equalizer. The stock Honeycomb browser and CPU performance of the Xoom are pretty awesome.
I want a new 7" tablet with Honeycomb (or newer) and the next generation of ARM CPUs. It's amazing how awful the Android 2.x stock browser is.
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I played with a Xoom the other day and those babies are way faster than the Nook Color so I'm not so sure that Netflix is exactly an equalizer. The stock Honeycomb browser and CPU performance of the Xoom are pretty awesome.
I want a new 7" tablet with Honeycomb (or newer) and the next generation of ARM CPUs. It's amazing how awful the Android 2.x stock browser is.
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Yeah, the stock browser is pretty much no-frills, but Dolphin HD is nice, and speedy too. CM7+$250 nook =awesome. It's a good buy for those that like to tinker. I would probably get bored with a Xoom.
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Yeah, the stock browser is pretty much no-frills, but Dolphin HD is nice, and speedy too. CM7+$250 nook =awesome. It's a good buy for those that like to tinker. I would probably get bored with a Xoom.
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you should try opera mobile (not mini) if you haven't and modify the user agent so it pulls back non mobile versions of sites. you may not like it but scrolling is really nice.
I completely agree with the article concerning the size of the Nook. The iPad and Xoom are slightly too big for my taste.
I cant quit tinkering with the nook. I also cant wait until honeycomb for nook has its last kinks worked out. But i do wish i had a real honeycomb tablet.
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you should try opera mobile (not mini) if you haven't and modify the user agent so it pulls back non mobile versions of sites. you may not like it but scrolling is really nice.
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Honestly, I love my nook color, but I won't hesitate to buy a better tablet should one come out in my price range. Right now, these are toys at best. But I really do see tablets being the start of replacing the big bulky laptops.
I mean watch any sci-fi movie, and normally they have something that resembles our tablets. Iron Man 2, Tony stark had a few displays that would have resembled close to what I'm talking about. Only difference is he's been playing with the transparent led displays that aren't on the market yet.
If you listen to Phandroid rumors, there is talk of a Quad Core Amazon Tablet by the end of the year, I may end up suffocating from holding my breath. But, it's what I'm looking at next. Unless their other rumor of a $250 Dual-core tablet similar to the Nook Color comes out before that.
The Nook is awesome, but so is the XOOM. Even though new tabs are coming out that are thinner, cheaper, performance wise, I still think Xoom is right there at the top, but sex sells better than brawn, right?
No the Nook is not as fast as a full sized tablet, and yes, it is much cheaper, but the big boys are the complete experience. Netflix is a plus, but does not make the Nook better than the XOOM, just beats it to the punch. I am sure the XOOM netflix will be just as good and possibly better with higher def video and a larger screen and a processor that will make the framerate smoother overall.
However, the Nook is much more portable, and does anything that does not require heavy processing excellentely. It is the sole reason why I have a hard time justifying a full sized tablet.
The only thing that took down the xoom in my opinion is the price point.
I currently have an ASUS Transformer Tablet running Honeycomb 3.2. My wife is interested in the Nook for reading, magazines, etc.
I think there is a Nook app for android as well. Can anyone help me decide if it's worth it to buy her the Nook, or not?
What does the nook have or not have that a full honeycomb tablet has?
What does the Nook app for android have/not have that the Nook may have?
Pro's/Con's for each way?
Not looking to Root the nook either to put full android on it, unless its easy and pretty much harmless.
Thanks for the help all!
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I have had both (returned the tf101 due to a hw bug - not a fault of the transformers design, just a normal qa bug). The current nooo application now has everything. Even magazines, which I remember being absent when I triedthe nook android app a while ago.
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pros: $250.00 cons: $350.00
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I currently have an ASUS Transformer Tablet running Honeycomb 3.2. My wife is interested in the Nook for reading, magazines, etc.
I think there is a Nook app for android as well. Can anyone help me decide if it's worth it to buy her the Nook, or not?
What does the nook have or not have that a full honeycomb tablet has?
What does the Nook app for android have/not have that the Nook may have?
Pro's/Con's for each way?
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The stock nook reader can do the children's books (lots of animation and "read to me"), the Android app can't. Otherwise, for grownups, they're pretty much equivalent.
The Nook doesn't have a phone, cell network, camera, microphone, video out, or bluetooth with reasonable range. These are some of the reasons that the price is so good.
When you run CM7, it does have host-mode USB (albeit a little hacky at the moment).
Not looking to Root the nook either to put full android on it, unless its easy and pretty much harmless.
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Booting CM7 off the SD is absolutely harmless, and very easy the third or fourth time you do it...
If the goal is to end up with a device that is good for reading books the Nook Color is a great solution. You might want to root it, very easy, and leave it running the stock OS. That will open up the NC to running apps and getting to the standard Market, but leaves the unit with the reader centric interface. I have mine this way and prefer that to a generic Android experience such as CM7. I usually prefer the bigger screen of the Transformer to the NC for general tasks like web browsing.
so what in lieu of the missing hardware (camera, gps, etc), what software limitations is on the stock nook color? Can you install apps from android market?
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so what in lieu of the missing hardware (camera, gps, etc), what software limitations is on the stock nook color? Can you install apps from android market?
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Stock is crap IMO. Its only good if your just going to be reading books. Cm7 makes this thing the best tablet for your money. It is crazy easy to install and you get the full android tablet experience for less than half the price of the big boys. Yes it is missing a camera and GPS but why would you ever need that on a tablet?
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And there is no market access on stock unless you root it.
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I have both and each has its place in my tablet world. I like the portability of the Nook and its gorgeous screen. The Transformer screen is equally impressive looking. Would highly recommend CM7 for Nook as others have suggested. When I need to use an app like Google Goggles, or other apps that use camera/video capabilities, the Transformer is the obvious choice and is quite capable. I have not yet had success with USB camera or headset with Nook but still have hope thanks to the devs continuing work. I have used GPS with both (using bluetooth GPS on the Nook). I use the Transformer as my "cell phone" now with my 3G mifi device (using the GrooVeIP app). I believe your household would enjoy having both.
With the nook app you have access to a lot less magazines because of liscense agreements. On the stock nook you have access to all magazine subscriptions like GQ and Vanity Fair.
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soo much good info so far. i'll have to investigate this CM7. don't know much about it at all
I also have both Transformer and Nook.
They each have their place. I almost always have the rooted nook with me. Keep in mind that you can find refurbs for $180 to $200.
Also, when you root to a sd card, you don't change the underlying software in the main memory of the nook. If you have a problem with your nook, just pull the sd card out and reboot it to stock.
Once rooted, you can add the software reader from Kindle and Sony. This means you can comparative shop to find the book you want. When it is stock, you can only buy from BN or borrow from your library.
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I also have both Transformer and Nook.
They each have their place. I almost always have the rooted nook with me. Keep in mind that you can find refurbs for $180 to $200.
Also, when you root to a sd card, you don't change the underlying software in the main memory of the nook. If you have a problem with your nook, just pull the sd card out and reboot it to stock.
Once rooted, you can add the software reader from Kindle and Sony. This means you can comparative shop to find the book you want.
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This all sounds great, and i like the SD card root you guys are talking about. I haven't rooted an android device before so it's new to me, and i know theres TONS of posts regarding it as well. I have jailbroken iphones/ipod touches so i know the concept of it all.
With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
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With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
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Please don't go there.
Rodney
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Please don't go there.
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understood. I'm all for giving credit to people for apps, and all. I just enjoy testing them before buying.
With the cost of most android programs being low, there should never be a reason to look at pirated software. The software development we have today is a testiment to the hard work of many talented developers who would not continue if their work was not appreciated.
The Nook color , like most any tablet/reader device, should be considered for purchase based on filling a specific need. For reading, I have not found another device that provides anything close to the experience of the nook. For less than $250.00, you have a color screen that rivals tablets costing 2-3 times the nook. The fact that the nook boots from an sd card allows you to have a full android experience while retaining the stock nook reader.
For those wishing to expand the stock nook, cm7 provides a rich android experience with multimedia and the (almost) entire android market for apps. The market is now "device aware" and will only allow download of apps compatable with the device.
As for USB use, I am using a logitech bluetooth keyboard to type this message and use USB host mode to connect my digital camera to the nook to transfer photos directly for better viewing.
If you require all the functions of a full tablet (camera, GPS, ect:.) The nook might not be for you but if it is a secondary device that you can use to enrich your life with it's many capabilities, you will not find a better value on the market.
I'll get off my soapbox now and let you get on with that nook purchase.
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With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
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if you mean to "sideload" apps then yes
A few weeks ago Staples had a coupon for $100 off all tables, including the Asus Transformer. This week Target is giving a $100 gift card to anyone who purchases an Acer Iconia (effectively making the price $299). For just $50 more than the cost of a new Nook Color, it's a no-brainer to get the Honeycomb tablet.
Both of the deals mentioned above seem indicative of price drops in the Android tablet market. Anyone who missed out on the above deals, just wait, and you'll see more like them.
So most likely friday I am buying a tablet. I want it mainly for internet, ereading, movies, music making notes for class and showing my photography. The thing is there is apps that I want but aren't on the B and N store. Facebook, gmail and pintrest aren't too big an issue because I can go on the website. But some others I am disappointed they don't have. I have been looking at the HD and Nexus 7. My major reason why I am leaning towards the Nook is because it can have an sd card (i am not a cloud storage person right now) and some of the magazines I want say that they can be only used on the Nook. Not to mention the new scapbook thing would be useful. I always find cool things in magazines and forget that would be a nice touch though. I have been reading about a possibility of sideloading apps. Wondering if it would be worth it to get the HD or go with the Nexus. Is there a way to sideload apps without getting rid of the nook interface. I know there is rooting and roms that will probably come but I like how the nook works. Anyhow thanks in advance.
Your reason for picking the Nook HD is the same as mine. I do photography for fun, although I keep hearing only good things about my works. Sideloading isn't hard, but it appear people are having some problem getting ADB to work, which is actually a per-requisite for sideloading. I have the benefit of being a geek first, and photography being second if not third. So, tinkering with the Nook become easy for me. You can side load a lot of app, w/o having to use google app store. To actually use non-B&N app store, you do require more hacking than just sideloading. If you aren't comfortable with it, I would say go for Nexus. That said, I would say both HD and Nexus 7 is actually a wrong choice for what you are looking forward to do with your device. The 10 inches version of them are probably better suited for movie watching and showcase your photo since they at least can display 1080p. And that's the reason I got the Nook HD+. If you can tinker with the Nook, then it's a good choice, otherwise I would say go with the other since the list of apps available on B&N is pretty pathetic.
Thanks for the reply. I thought about the ten inch but I was looking at them both and I actually like the picture on the hd better. It was a slight difference and I like the portability better. I am still undecided on size. I rooted my phone before and I am pretty good with tech stuff. I figure stuff out pretty quick. So I am jot worried about that. I am trying to start a photography business so that is why I need the photos looking good and it seems like the nook has the best screen right now. I have an android phone so its like to me if I cant put it on the nook I can on my phone but something's would be better on the tablet. So if you sideload is it stil on the normal nook interface? Will the apps show up on it?
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Yes, on the 7-8 inches, Nook is pretty good, but when it come to 10 inches, I heard the Nexus is better. On the other hand, iPad is better at color accuracy as the screen is profile very close to sRGB. That said, the glossy screen is not something I enjoy. The iPad 3 screen is much glossier than Nook. If you are intended to use it for business. If color is critical then you might have to pick up iPad and put a screen protector that minimize the reflectiveness. And yes loading picture would be a pain also since you can't just dump them on the SD and have to use Apple software. Also access picture on NAS/SAN is another problem on iOS. I'm not even aware of any color profile or calibration tool on Android at all.
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Yes, on the 7-8 inches, Nook is pretty good, but when it come to 10 inches, I heard the Nexus is better. On the other hand, iPad is better at color accuracy as the screen is profile very close to sRGB. That said, the glossy screen is not something I enjoy. The iPad 3 screen is much glossier than Nook. If you are intended to use it for business. If color is critical then you might have to pick up iPad and put a screen protector that minimize the reflectiveness. And yes loading picture would be a pain also since you can't just dump them on the SD and have to use Apple software. Also access picture on NAS/SAN is another problem on iOS. I'm not even aware of any color profile or calibration tool on Android at all.
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Well I refuse to buy an ipad or anything Apple on principle. Lol. It's more of just having it for to show people the stuff I have but yeah it's more for pleasure except for the picture part. I don't know I think I will go for the nook and if I really need something different I can always get something else. I really want the Win 8 pro ones but they a lot more then I can spend right now. I am looking in the 200 - 300 range. Thank you for your help though.
I hate Apple as much as you do, but I buy what works for me regardless of brand. That said if there are choices that inclucde non-apple brand, I most likely go that route. I have absolutely no problem buying an Apple 15" retina MacBookPro and put Windows on it because nobody else making the spec that met my need. Yes I can take advantage of that native high res screen.
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Well I refuse to buy an ipad or anything Apple on principle. Lol. It's more of just having it for to show people the stuff I have but yeah it's more for pleasure except for the picture part. I don't know I think I will go for the nook and if I really need something different I can always get something else. I really want the Win 8 pro ones but they a lot more then I can spend right now. I am looking in the 200 - 300 range. Thank you for your help though.
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I have a ElineUSA Prodigy EL908 10 inch (9.7 inch) tablet. Pictures are super sharp on this tablet. It can even play 1080 dpi Hi def videos. It has a micro SD card slot for loading pictures, music, books etc. You can get it in 16gb or 32gb versions. It has 1 gb RAM. Front and back cameras. The glass is IPS laminate (same as IPad). Let me know if you are intrested I can hook you up wth one. Running ICS 4.04 at the moment, but Jelly Bean should be available shortly.
Per my new announcement here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34478962#post34478962
I am closing this thread. Please follow the "Request a new forum" link, and let the staff know a board for the HD is needed.
Per the NEW announcement,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34819554#post34819554
I redeclare this thread open...