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Silicone cover/heat

I have noticed that with my phone in my silicone cover it seems my phone seems to heat up and at times overheat. As a mechanical engineer it theoretically makes sense. Looking for a sanity check.
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mech engr ftw.
drill some holes in it?
embed some aluminum for heat transfer?
Engineering time!

Silicone doesnt conduct heat. Your sanity remains intact.

krichmond0306 said:
i have noticed that with my phone in my silicone cover it seems my phone seems to heat up and at times overheat. As a mechanical engineer it theoretically makes sense. Looking for a sanity check.
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water cool it.
All you need is:
1) bucket of watter
2) your htc incredible
step one: Drop phone into water
step two: Remove phone
step three: Phone is now cooler then before
step four: Profit

krichmond0306 said:
I have noticed that with my phone in my silicone cover it seems my phone seems to heat up and at times overheat. As a mechanical engineer it theoretically makes sense. Looking for a sanity check.
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it's the battery heating up from use, it's normal. if you are using the 1300 mAh that shipped with the phone then yeah, it does that.
all lithium-ion batteries get warm after a period of use, why the hell do you think they have a "flammable" warning on them? however, if your battery does get to hot, your phone will shut off, almost all circuits are wired with a fail safe break that if overloaded will cut connection to avoid the battery frying the phone. sort of like how your breaker box works in your house.

Agreed. I have a aftermarket 2700 mAH with a silicone cover and I only notice it heating up with use. During use I have seen temp with the Batt monitor @ 106° and just charging 88°

no silicone here and zero heat.

davwman said:
no silicone here and zero heat.
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I used my phone without silicone and it still heated up, I noticed it less with the silicone case on.
Either way it's nothing at all to worry about, like another poster said it will shut off if it ever got considerably hot. Happens under constant or heavy usage.

Nexus 7 Qi Wireless Charging Mod

Hi everyone, thought I would share a mod I did to my tablet based off this guy on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6QcSpZHGFs&list=UUOxsHE9Vmxb32X66EUSWkOw&index=1
Note he used a Blackberry 8900 Energizer Qi Cover. I used an Apple Iphone 3G one and removed the coil.
Step 1: CAREFULLY remove the tape and casing around the Qi coil. The plastic comes apart easily. You want to avoid damaging the board and wires when removing the tape securing it to the Iphone case.
Step 2: Remove the nexus 7 cover. It clips off quite easily once you get a grip. I found it easiest to remove the sim slot cover and pry from there, but any opening should do.
Step 3: Place the coil. Note where I placed mine I had to peel back the bronze covering to allow the coil to penetrate the back of the case. Run the wires to the NFC connector. Note the position of the wires in the photo. Be sure to insulate the wires with tape and ensure no crossed points (which shouldnt be an issue anyhow).
Step 4: Remove the Iphone connector and solder the wires to either end of the NFC noting the correct positive and negative positions.
Step 5: Test. Note that it will enter docking mode when initially connected. If the docking notice keeps popping up that means that you do not have it centered and the connection keeps re-establishing. I used the LG Qi pad from Verizon for testing. Just pop the cover back on once done, and voila!
I preferred this to the Palm Pre inductive mod since my Nexus 4 uses the Qi standard. Hope this helps some of you!
You can disable the docking screen/options via 'DayDream' mode being turned off in display settings.
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I did that mod too. Used the blackberry 8900 coil. Seems like it will take a while to fully charge the battery once its dead. I'm going to see if I can find a larger coil that can put out a higher voltage.. What is your total time to recharge your Nexus 7..? I finalized the mod today and am just charging my unit for the first time now. But it seems to be getting a low volatage as its still I'm single digits and its been on the charger for an hour or so already..

I'm getting 5 to 9 an hour with the lg charger. I'll post results when my energizer arrives and is tested.

What happens if you charge via the pogo pins (ex. a dock) and charge using a charging mat at the same time? I know this is unlikely, but I'm curious if this could cause damage to the tablet.

Does this work thru a case?
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It doesnt work through the thick leather Truss case I have it in, but works through tpu covers.

Sean09 said:
It doesnt work through the thick leather Truss case I have it in, but works through tpu covers.
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I've got the poetic flip case. It's a thinner plastic with leather. Think I'm sol? What if I increase the coil size? Will that increase the strength?
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So cool wish I had the guts to do this.

mrazndead said:
So cool wish I had the guts to do this.
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It's very simple. This is a great mod for a beginner tinker-er
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Yep, very easy to do mod. The energizer seems to charge faster. I am going to have to test more thoroughly, but I am getting ~15% per hour with it thus far.

After more thorough testing my LG charging pad seems to average 9-13% an hour, whereas the energizer seems to only do 7-9 an hour. Decent for overnight charging, but certainly not very fast.

Two questions:
1) What's the total cost to do this. That is both a charging mat and a donor back door.
2) How much current (that's mah not voltage) do these doors provide? I'd assume they all supply 5V since that's the USB standard and most things charge that way nowadays. Do they have ratings on them or is it just the situation that they make a replacement door/back for the xxx device and you have to live with that if you have a xxx?
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The cost is that of a qi coil as described in post 1 and any qi mat.
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Nice screen protector:silly:

This is great and looks simple too. This all fits under the stock back cover?
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T-Keith said:
This is great and looks simple too. This all fits under the stock back cover?
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Yes fits without issue
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I think the reason people go with the palm setup is that you can find them for dirt cheap. What is the best/cheapest source for qi stuff?
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I have been able to find the energizer base stations in clearance areas like Wal-Mart, Kmart, Target and sometimes goodwill. Any of the energizer stations are qi compatible. My wife was able to score a double station from goodwill with the BlackBerry coils for 20 bucks ya just gotta look around
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Yes fits without issue

Charging socket flap

I went to AT&T to try out the S5.
Overall a very nice phone however the one thing that I think will annoy the hell out of me is having to fiddle with that flap every time it's time to charge the phone.
I found it really hard to open and after a few tries I managed to get my finger nail under the slight lip but it was not very comfortable to do.
How are the rest of yo owners finding the handling of this flap?
I will be using a robust case for mine so wireless charging is out for me.
I heard back from both Spigen and Case-Mate who both said that it's unlikely charging would work through their cases and that's assuming the phone will still fit with the slightly larger charging back.

samsat said:
I went to AT&T to try out the S5.
Overall a very nice phone however the one thing that I think will annoy the hell out of me is having to fiddle with that flap every time it's time to charge the phone.
I found it really hard to open and after a few tries I managed to get my finger nail under the slight lip but it was not very comfortable to do.
How are the rest of yo owners finding the handling of this flap?
I will be using a robust case for mine so wireless charging is out for me.
I heard back from both Spigen and Case-Mate who both said that it's unlikely charging would work through their cases and that's assuming the phone will still fit with the slightly larger charging back.
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That's the only thing that I find annoying about the S5. I understand it needs to be covered for water/dust resistance, but it's still incredibly annoying. I have short nails (stupid nail-biting habit) so trying to open it is always a chore. I've actually resorted to using a small thumb-tac (lol) to open it and it works perfectly every time.
I'll definitely be looking at wireless charging options once they're readily available. I rarely use a case on my S5, just because I like how it feels in the hand without one, so the different back shouldn't be an issue.

I like knowing that dirt, dust and curious little kid fingers won't be able to affect the port. I have an otterbox that has a decent opening to allow for charging, been using it all day and its around 55% batt, so I'll be okay with the cover.

I have the spigen tough armor case and I can charge the phone with no problem. It's a minor inconvenience but it's worth having the peace of mind against getting water damage.
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samsat said:
I went to AT&T to try out the S5.
Overall a very nice phone however the one thing that I think will annoy the hell out of me is having to fiddle with that flap every time it's time to charge the phone.
I found it really hard to open and after a few tries I managed to get my finger nail under the slight lip but it was not very comfortable to do.
How are the rest of yo owners finding the handling of this flap?
I will be using a robust case for mine so wireless charging is out for me.
I heard back from both Spigen and Case-Mate who both said that it's unlikely charging would work through their cases and that's assuming the phone will still fit with the slightly larger charging back.
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I have a case and I can't open the flap without removing the case. I hate it
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....I pulled that little thing out. I know its not water proof anymore, but ehh i wasn't gonna test it anyways.

I actually like the idea of covering the port, it's just very poorly executed on this phone. I really liked the sliding 'door' on the Captivate. But it's something that I'll learn to get used to.

I keep a spudger tool on my desk from an iphone repair kit...works great.

Dwolf16 said:
....I pulled that little thing out. I know its not water proof anymore, but ehh i wasn't gonna test it anyways.
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You probably made the value of your phone drop so much
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You guys are lazy. It takes, what, half a second to open? Use your index fingernail not your thumbnail.
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LeKtRiCzzz said:
You probably made the value of your phone drop so much
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Your probably right. The nice thing is I have the ATT Next plan.
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Dwolf16 said:
Your probably right. The nice thing is I have the ATT Next plan.
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Will they take the phone like that. I thought it had to mint condition to return it. There is a screw under the backplate to take it out I'm hoping you did that at least
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I tugged it out lol. If they dont, then I'll just do a regular upgrade trade in and pay the remaining value. I'm not worried about it. Also it's convenient to charge.
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Who is going to be brave enough to try out one of these QI charging modules?
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charger-Including-Charging-Receiver/dp/B00DDTZN4S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398042849&sr=8-1&keywords=CHOETECH+qi+s5

samsat said:
Who is going to be brave enough to try out one of these QI charging modules?
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...qid=1398042849&sr=8-1&keywords=CHOETECH+qi+s5
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The Samsung charging cover will be available soon. It works with any Qi charging pad.

My wife has been using the S4 Active since her S3 had an unfortunate dunking. The S5 charging cover is much easier to use and and worth the effort if you've ever dealt with dropping the phone into, say, the washing machine.
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samsat said:
Who is going to be brave enough to try out one of these QI charging modules?
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charger-Including-Charging-Receiver/dp/B00DDTZN4S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398042849&sr=8-1&keywords=CHOETECH+qi+s5
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Greycloak42 said:
The Samsung charging cover will be available soon. It works with any Qi charging pad.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-CG900IBUSTA

I kept the wireless charging pad from my GS4 im just waiting to get that wireless door battery... For now ill just have no choice to open/close the flap which takes 2 secs... I also saw a sview cover wireless charging battery door, a bit more expensive...
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Not being "lazy" but I have gel tips on my nails.. therefore opening this door without one of my kids/boyfriend or a thumbtack etc. is impossible for me. My 17-year-old suggested I rip it off but I refused because I want the dust and waterproof to remain.

I think the flap is the unfortunate, necessary evil for the water/dust proofing feature of the phone. I am not a fan of it either but it is what it is.

Home made QI wireless charging? Anyone?

Hi guys.....i love my zr but really disappointed with absence of accessories for it.
There are qi charging pads and accepters on aliexpress for 10 bucks a set... NOT FOR OWR PHONES of course.
I can fit in one inside of the rubber seal area and connect it with small wires to the battery.....
The question is.....have anyone tryed it before?
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I wouldnt recommend forcing the pad under the battery door. If you look under there youll notice that the waterproofing works by letting the rubber gasket fall into a channel; if you add something thatll push the gasket away from the channel, it might be enough to let water in.
I actually just got my wireless charging pad for the Note 2 in the mail today. I'm planning to adapt it to my Xperia ZR but in a different way. I plan to put it between my phone and case, and connect it thru the docking connectors on the side of the phone. Ill update you with photos when im done if it comes out alright. Right now im just worried about how Im gonna get it to sit right without covering the flash.
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update pics when u r done.
younix258 said:
I wouldnt recommend forcing the pad under the battery door. If you look under there youll notice that the waterproofing works by letting the rubber gasket fall into a channel; if you add something thatll push the gasket away from the channel, it might be enough to let water in.
I actually just got my wireless charging pad for the Note 2 in the mail today. I'm planning to adapt it to my Xperia ZR but in a different way. I plan to put it between my phone and case, and connect it thru the docking connectors on the side of the phone. Ill update you with photos when im done if it comes out alright. Right now im just worried about how Im gonna get it to sit right without covering the flash.
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Plz UPDATE us when u complete this little project

vbansal89 said:
Plz UPDATE us when u complete this little project
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Okay heres my update: i did what i was planning to; unfortunately its not incredibly elegant.
I used a charging pad for note 2 which i bought on ebay. The copper tips i used as pins for the charging pad were a bit bigger than they should have been so my case is a little warped on that side. Also the pressure from the case makes the pins not have great contact with the phone so it takes little fidgeting to get it to start charging. Besides that though it works fine. I set it on the wireless charger at night and the phone is at 100% in the morning.
This weekend im gonna redo the soldering of the pins with some slightly smaller ones and see if i can make it... prettier.
The only thing to keep in mind is that +5v is the pin closest to the top of the phone and gnd is the bottom one. I also had to modify the charging pad to g3t the flap to come out higher up from the pad, otherwise I would have had to cover the flash.
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Yet another update. I tried to make it more elegant by reducing the thickness of the pins but to no avail. Doing this mod with a tpu (flexible plastic) case was a waste of time since theres no way to keep pressure on the pins and make the case sit flush.
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What about glueing the connector to the phone? With this solution no pressure from the plastic case is required I guess...

How I get Galaxy S5 Flex...

Hello guys. I want to warn you before setting QI wireless charger adapter in original cover / housing. Another you will get Galaxy S5 Flex, like me. :good:
I hope that it will get back in few hrs...:crying:

Did you bend your phone by putting in a third party qi coil?
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AMoosa said:
Did you bend your phone by putting in a third party qi coil?
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Sounds like it.
Why not just get a proper QI back cover!?

AMoosa said:
Did you bend your phone by putting in a third party qi coil?
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Yes.

onim21 said:
Yes.
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No idea how you did that as my case only had a minor, barely noticeable bump when I used a wireless Qi receiver with the standard case.
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Slicktune said:
Awww Fcuk yeah i wanna do this to my phone... I want the galaxy s5 flex, does it curve the display too? As a child ive always wanted the galaxy nexus but T-Mobile never released it now its my chance to make my Fcukin owwwwwnnnnnn oh Fcuking godddddddd!!!!! What are the steps and does it curve the displays?
Thanks inFcuking advanceeee!!!
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Oy vey, that's a lot of F***s for one post. xD

Slicktune said:
Awww Fcuk yeah i wanna do this to my phone... I want the galaxy s5 flex, does it curve the display too? As a child ive always wanted the galaxy nexus but T-Mobile never released it now its my chance to make my Fcukin owwwwwnnnnnn oh Fcuking godddddddd!!!!! What are the steps and does it curve the displays?
Thanks inFcuking advanceeee!!!
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You are one obnoxious child, crying for attention, smh...

Joe0113 said:
You are one obnoxious child, crying for attention, smh...
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I'm not obnoxious, I'm grateful and was excited, because back in second grade i wanted the LG G Flex but it was too big, then when i heard galaxy s5 was coming out i would pray every night by my night stand as i looked into the stars "please be a curved display, please be a curved display..." i didn't think it was impossible seeing that they had released former devices like galaxy nexus and their new uhd curved TV's.... but now thanks to knowing this site (i use Tapatalk) i can find a way where i don't have to wait for manufacturers to come up with one because the OP has made a beautiful discovery that will go down in android history. now i need to know ..if it will trip knox by curving it?
thanks in advance!
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Sorry, I don't get it. Did your phone MELT to this shape?!
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drezman said:
Sorry, I don't get it. Did your phone MELT to this shape?!
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my thoughts also. I bet it melted during charge.

gyxter said:
my thoughts also. I bet it melted during charge.
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YOU MEAN THIS IS A DAMN DEFECT?!?! EWW I don't want my phone looking all corroded and melty! its gonna smell like string bean cigarettes
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Then get the original charging cover, it's that simple

onim21 said:
Hello guys. I want to warn you before setting QI wireless charger adapter in original cover / housing. Another you will get Galaxy S5 Flex, like me. :good:
I hope that it will get back in few hrs...:crying:
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I've been using a QI wireless charging pad for a couple of weeks without any problem. As another user posted, the only effect I've noticed is a slight bulge in the back panel. It doesn't get especially hot (although it does warm a little more than with USB charging.)
The only other thing is that I've got a wallet case on my phone and charge through that (so there's some plastic between the phone and charging plate.)

I have the expower ultra thin card and in the instructions it tells you to remove the copper screening sticker from inside the original back plate as it causes extra heat when charging. Its a ***** to peel off as well. Gets warm but not enough to bend my phone by any means and it charges fine through my defender case there's no noticeable bulge in the back plate either. If i want to put it in water i'll throw an otterbox preserver on it.

nexy33 said:
I have the expower ultra thin card and in the instructions it tells you to remove the copper screening sticker from inside the original back plate as it causes extra heat when charging. Its a ***** to peel off as well. Gets warm but not enough to bend my phone by any means and it charges fine through my defender case there's no noticeable bulge in the back plate either. If i want to put it in water i'll throw an otterbox preserver on it.
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Removed the copper sticker to see if it makes any difference. My phone doesn't get any warmer than when charging via USB now.