Silicone cover/heat - Droid Incredible Accessories

I have noticed that with my phone in my silicone cover it seems my phone seems to heat up and at times overheat. As a mechanical engineer it theoretically makes sense. Looking for a sanity check.
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mech engr ftw.
drill some holes in it?
embed some aluminum for heat transfer?
Engineering time!

Silicone doesnt conduct heat. Your sanity remains intact.

krichmond0306 said:
i have noticed that with my phone in my silicone cover it seems my phone seems to heat up and at times overheat. As a mechanical engineer it theoretically makes sense. Looking for a sanity check.
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water cool it.
All you need is:
1) bucket of watter
2) your htc incredible
step one: Drop phone into water
step two: Remove phone
step three: Phone is now cooler then before
step four: Profit

krichmond0306 said:
I have noticed that with my phone in my silicone cover it seems my phone seems to heat up and at times overheat. As a mechanical engineer it theoretically makes sense. Looking for a sanity check.
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it's the battery heating up from use, it's normal. if you are using the 1300 mAh that shipped with the phone then yeah, it does that.
all lithium-ion batteries get warm after a period of use, why the hell do you think they have a "flammable" warning on them? however, if your battery does get to hot, your phone will shut off, almost all circuits are wired with a fail safe break that if overloaded will cut connection to avoid the battery frying the phone. sort of like how your breaker box works in your house.

Agreed. I have a aftermarket 2700 mAH with a silicone cover and I only notice it heating up with use. During use I have seen temp with the Batt monitor @ 106° and just charging 88°

no silicone here and zero heat.

davwman said:
no silicone here and zero heat.
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I used my phone without silicone and it still heated up, I noticed it less with the silicone case on.
Either way it's nothing at all to worry about, like another poster said it will shut off if it ever got considerably hot. Happens under constant or heavy usage.

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Cooling solutions

Has anybody thought of any cooling solutions for this phone?
The things get stupidly hot when charging and i have read somewhere this can reduce charging performance?
Personally i am thinking about modding a case.
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Casemodding a phone for better cooling performance? Where is this world going ?
But seriously my phone doesnt get super hot, while my buddy's xperia x10 does
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Put your phone inside liquid and it will be LG Optimus 2x Liquid cooling system!!! Haha, JKJK!!!
How i cool my phone is the same theory as liquid cooling system. Just that the liquid(tap water) is outside.
Step one: take a NEW zip-lock bag(You don't want a swimming phone...)
step two: Fill it full of water, as full as possible.
Step three: Place your phone on top of the bag of water.
It worked for me. Cheers
Lol i like it
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wtf is this ? i dont wanna buy a phone which you need to cool with a zip bag full of water oO ?!?!
U just gonna look like a nerd
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What is going on here
Lol. As in when you are charging... especially charge overnight... ==
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I bought some 120mm fans from NOX to build a case for my PC, have two of them extracting the air from inside the PC located on top of the PC case, that's the spot where i leave my LG charging ...
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There are 2 ways that we can achieve this without looking too silly like lugging a liquid cooling system attached to the phone.
1) Fabricate a aluminum or copper backplate to replace the current one that is plastic.
2) Get a silicon case, remove the LG backplate, and slip a piece of copper cut into the shape of the backplate, to replace it, with the silicon case hold on to it. This is what I am planning to do, now just trying to find a shop that do the metal piece for me.
...or just always carry a freezer bag full with ice and when it gets hot just put the phone inside for few minutes
(just to clarify, my unit never got extra hot, not even after playing some hd games for 1h nor while charging)
??? Am I the only one that has no problem with the phone getting hot?... Neither during use or charging overnight...
No you're not, this does seem like a bit of an over-reaction to me.
What a stupid thread, never had any issues with my phone getting hot when charging over night.
Only time it gets hot is when i am using it as a wireless hotspot and its also charging.
Moonie17 said:
What a stupid thread, never had any issues with my phone getting hot when charging over night.
Only time it gets hot is when i am using it as a wireless hotspot and its also charging.
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Agree 100%. Those who are having those issues should replace their phones as it not seem normal otherwise LG should attach noctua coolers to each phone

SafPWR Fusion 2 Case

I picked up the SafPWR Fusion 2 case today from AT&T. My usage so far hasn't been wearing the battery out, but it is an 1800ma case that goes with the original 1600. So that should be enough power to sync everything like a madman, and screen at 100%. lol
Will update after a couple of days to let you know what it is like.
can you post pics of it on your phone.. curious to see how much extra it adds to it.
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can you post pics of it on your phone.. curious to see how much extra it adds to it.
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More than double thicknes. Not for me...
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gtkansan said:
More than double thicknes. Not for me...
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Yuck... I didn't know it was that thick.
It isn't twice as thick, but it is pretty damn thick.
It is heavy, I can tell you that (with the phone). Without the phone you think, hey this isn't to heavy. LOL.
Still deciding if I am going to keep it.
I have been using this case since I bought my vivid over a month ago. It definitely adds some bulk to it, but it also does a good job protecting the Phone. It doesn't look/ feel like it would be very useful as drop protection, but I have dropped the phone multiple times on hard surfaces (I am 6'3") and the case has taken all the damage.
As for the 1800mah battery in the case, I have been less than satisfied. I almost feel that it was a typo and should have said 800mah. When my phone hits under 20% I turn the case on, if I am not using the phone at all while the case charges it, I can get it from 20, to about 80-90% before the case runs out of juice. If I am using the phone moderately while the case charges it, I am lucky to see a 30% improvement before the case goes dead 1-2 hours later.
I will say though, that if I let it charge from the case in my pocket, and do not use the phone, it DOES charge pretty fast from 20 to 80-ish percent.
If I want to use MHL, I have to remove the phone from the case, but I believe it works for data sync, etc in the case.
I plan on continuing to use this case as it hasn't let me down yet, and the extra battery life (though not 1800mah worth) is definitely a life saver.
Just my short review. Hope it helps!
CCL X10 said:
I have been using this case since I bought my vivid over a month ago. It definitely adds some bulk to it, but it also does a good job protecting the Phone. It doesn't look/ feel like it would be very useful as drop protection, but I have dropped the phone multiple times on hard surfaces (I am 6'3") and the case has taken all the damage.
As for the 1800mah battery in the case, I have been less than satisfied. I almost feel that it was a typo and should have said 800mah. When my phone hits under 20% I turn the case on, if I am not using the phone at all while the case charges it, I can get it from 20, to about 80-90% before the case runs out of juice. If I am using the phone moderately while the case charges it, I am lucky to see a 30% improvement before the case goes dead 1-2 hours later.
I will say though, that if I let it charge from the case in my pocket, and do not use the phone, it DOES charge pretty fast from 20 to 80-ish percent.
If I want to use MHL, I have to remove the phone from the case, but I believe it works for data sync, etc in the case.
I plan on continuing to use this case as it hasn't let me down yet, and the extra battery life (though not 1800mah worth) is definitely a life saver.
Just my short review. Hope it helps!
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I was worried about this. I am trying to figure out if I am going to keep it. I really like the way the Speck case looks, and that is what I was going to get. I ended up getting the battery case, and the one that looks like a tire with a leather back. They had the otter, but I just didn't like it. But I can never make up my mind with cases and phones lol.
Well, I just boxed it back up. I had it on the charger for like three hour and the phone wasn't fully charged and neither was the case. Case was only half charged. DO you have to charge them separately? Or can you charge both the phone and the case at the same time.
I have this case. If you let the phone and battery case die you have to charge them separately. ( the actual inst. Booklet that came with it tells you.) as far as feel the phone itself is to me a little too thin. The case feels great after the first couple days. I will say this they give you an extra top piece wherd the earphone jack goes for a reason. Mine broke the first week so be careful!
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I would love to see a picture of what the phone looks like with the case on it
I would too. I recently ordered the OtterBox Defender. I think I would rather have the protection over the extra battery life though. I already had to get the phone repaired after it fell out of my pocket while I was jogging...
I got this case also, too heavy and thick for my liking. It barely made it through half a day. I can do without
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I had this safpwr2 case and it is big and I maybe get only about two hours of additional.battery life out of it with heavy usaage. I.got it for $50 and it still isn't worth it imo
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I just bought the Safepwr today from the Local AT&T store for $50. I love it, my inspire had the PowerSkin and this is so much better. Usualy by this time tonight, I have my phone on the charger, it is still fully charged with only half gone off the Safepwr. This alone is giving me twice the battery life.
Just fyi,
I hated the feel of the Vivid compared to the inspire, Long and very hard for me to use the keyboard, with this case it feels real good.
Initially, you have to charge the case with out the phone inserted. Mine took about 4 hours. Make sure that the phone is fully charged. It works great. The case continuously charges the phone. The phone charge icon comes on, when the phone is below full charge. I understand that it is thicker than the phone alone, but you are pretty much adding another battery.
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Well, I just boxed it back up. I had it on the charger for like three hour and the phone wasn't fully charged and neither was the case. Case was only half charged. DO you have to charge them separately? Or can you charge both the phone and the case at the same time.
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So is it worth the money?
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Kurrytacos said:
So is it worth the money?
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IMO, no. I think you're better off with Mugen extended battery. The Mugen lasted longer for me without as much bulk.
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I bought this case for my Vivid on eBay for 15$. I thought it might be a knockoff, but so far everything looks legit. I've yet to try it because this came in before the Vivid (still waiting for my phone to be delivered )
Btw I know this is an OLD topic but just wanted to add my 2 cents in case anyone else is thinking about the case. From what I've read it seems there's a specific way to use the case to get the most out of it.
Will post back for the sake of anyone interested

"official" VZ droid silicone case/skin causes battery to heat up

Just a word of warning. I was seeing my battery at 120F whenever I was multitasking, like uploading stuff to dropbox & streaming music, which shouldn't be that intensive, it was making me crazy. Finally popped off the case, no more heat, I never see it over 100F anymore.
I do not know the model or anything, the turd at verizon unboxed it and discarded the box. It's the silicone one with some sort of reinforcement built into it. It cost like 20 dollars, and they won't take it back now without the box. Jerks.
So... just worth mentioning. Wouldn't have them throw in the case, if I were you. I'm off to search for a very thin silicone one, or something like that.
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This case:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...n-for-DROID4-by-MOTOROLA-from-PURE-GEAR-US-EN
I would avoid that. At least it gave me issues.
punkonjunk said:
Just a word of warning. I was seeing my battery at 120F whenever I was multitasking, like uploading stuff to dropbox & streaming music, which shouldn't be that intensive, it was making me crazy. Finally popped off the case, no more heat, I never see it over 100F anymore.
I do not know the model or anything, the turd at verizon unboxed it and discarded the box. It's the silicone one with some sort of reinforcement built into it. It cost like 20 dollars, and they won't take it back now without the box. Jerks.
So... just worth mentioning. Wouldn't have them throw in the case, if I were you. I'm off to search for a very thin silicone one, or something like that.
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I would avoid that. At least it gave me issues.
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Was your phone plugged into your charger while doing these tasks?
I have found that when my phone is fully charged, and I am doing a lot of tasks on the phone while it is plugged in, my phone gets really hot. I think it has to do with the charger doing small charge pulses to keep the battery at maximum capacity. I have the otterbox case which sounds very familiar to yours (inner silicon mold with an outer plastic shell), and when I am using the phone hard, I do not get these problems when disconnected from the power outlet.
I could imagine as a little dyi fix, you could cut slits into the silicon so that you still get most of the reinforcement and protection, but now it has a little bit of breathing room. (like a heatsink, but inefficient).
If you are just going to throw the case away, this is an interesting option.
Did you ever find something thin and silicone? I have the pure gear, my phone gets hot and its way too sticky in my pocket.
I think it'd be really interesting to see if the slits would work.. Is anyone willing to try it and post their results? I have the case too.
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I have a hard plastic case that i got off Verizon and it also get's super hot on and off the charger, but the official verizon kickstand case http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=accessoryDetails&accessoryId=50277 doesn't really heat up. The verizon case is way thinner and covers less of the phone, so maybe some holes will help.
My droid 4 gets up to 135°+ when I'm tethering. just don't let it get too high, there's a point where the battery won't charge unless its under a certain temperature
Look at this, Ultra slim TPU Case, Helps to cool down
Yooboo26 said:
Look at this, Ultra slim TPU Case, Helps to cool down
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Anyone got one of these? Are they actually hard or that soft rubber?
I have the verizon kickstand case and my phone only hits around 117ish. I dont like going over 120 so i have warnings to let me know when it hits 117. I think the vzw kickstand case helps the temp when the kickstand is being used since it opens 3 large holes in the back.
Hope this helps
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maddeath said:
I have a hard plastic case that i got off Verizon and it also get's super hot on and off the charger, but the official verizon kickstand case http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=accessoryDetails&accessoryId=50277 doesn't really heat up. The verizon case is way thinner and covers less of the phone, so maybe some holes will help.
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shadownekos said:
I have the verizon kickstand case and my phone only hits around 117ish. I dont like going over 120 so i have warnings to let me know when it hits 117. I think the vzw kickstand case helps the temp when the kickstand is being used since it opens 3 large holes in the back.
Hope this helps
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I too have the kickstand case. I use my droid for everything, from driving directions in my car using the car mount while listening to slacker radio, to checking emails and facebook while away from my PC. My temperature has hit 130 degrees F. I use a temp monitor to keep an eye on my internal and battery temp. I also point my A/C vent in my car towards my phone to keep it cool during the summer months. Lastly, when using it away from car, as in to tether, i remove my case and slide the keyboard up to keep the most surface area exposed to keep the phone as cool as possible. I use FoxFi to tether my Xbox, PS3, PC, and Asus Transformer 101 all at once.

Magnets and Li Batteries

Is there an actual harmful effect on a Li battery caused by the magnet in a leather case?
I have a leather case for my Z1 and I want to use it but I won't use it if the magnet in the lock is going to knacker the non removable battery.
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The active ingredients in a Li-Ion battery are Lithium and Carbon. Lithium itself is an alkali metal, and is not magnetic, therefor adding a magnetic charge to it will not do anything. The Carbon inside a Li-Ion battery is Propylene carbonate, which is an organic carbon mixture, and is classified under low grade magnetic field. This means that any consumer grade magnet won't affect it.
If you're near high powered chemical magnets or industrial applications of magnets for scientific testing, then you may have an issue, however most laboratories don't allow electronic devices inside a controlled environment.
Any Neodymium magnet you throw at your phone, those are the silver, powerful "rare earth" magnets, or lesser powerful magnet found in most fridge magnets and wallets/cases, won't affect your phone in a negative way.
Source: I'm a scientist.
Wiltron said:
Source: I'm a scientist.
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I am glad the source is reliable but the phone it self contains metal parts and use magnets around can influence the phone reception and even if this is not harmful to my phone I will avoid magnetic contact anyway.
eclyptos said:
I am glad the source is reliable but the phone it self contains metal parts and use magnets around can influence the phone reception and even if this is not harmful to my phone I will avoid magnetic contact anyway.
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His question was about the battery.. not the other parts of the phone.
Even still, the phone is magnetically shielded.
Unless you're around extremely powerful magnets, such as working in science labs and/or electromagnets in junk yards, you don't need to worry about the tiny extremely weak magnet in the case.
Wiltron said:
His question was about the battery.. not the other parts of the phone.
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It not make difference.
Wiltron said:
Unless you're around extremely powerful magnets, such as working in science labs and/or electromagnets in junk yards, you don't need to worry about the tiny extremely weak magnet in the case.
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What about LCD? I got bad experience with a small magnet, it can damage the screen.
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What about LCD? I got bad experience with a small magnet, it can damage the screen.
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Again.. he is not asking about the LCD.. he is asking about the Battery.
LCD screens are not affected by any source of magnetism either. If they were then cases like these wouldn't be on the market.
Things like these also wouldn't be backed by large companies or be so successful:
http://www.niteize.com/product/Steelie-Car-Mount-Kit.asp
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/studioproper/wallee-m-modular-magnetic-phone-mounting-system
Lets not forget that the phone itself has a magnet on the side of the device and a smaller magnet on the cable for the magnetic charging port. If you know anything about physics you'll know a current runs through the USB cable when it's charging the phone, which also doesn't affect it.
Holding a magnet up to an unshielded SnapDragon or whatever, or the mainboard, then yes, but these phones have aluminium shielding.
I don't really mean to revive an old thread, but I'm about to attach some rare earth magnets to my ravpower QI charger with an external battery. I'm assuming my external battery is lithium-ion based. I want to spread out the magnets so my phone can properly attach to it, but I wanted to make sure everything is fine first.
I googled another forum that explained that using magnets with lithium ion cells can potentially cause a dead-short.
"side impact will cause magnet to shift and possibly bridge to ground causing a dead short. a very bad thing to do with a li-ion cell. this could lead to venting with flames!"

Charging socket flap

I went to AT&T to try out the S5.
Overall a very nice phone however the one thing that I think will annoy the hell out of me is having to fiddle with that flap every time it's time to charge the phone.
I found it really hard to open and after a few tries I managed to get my finger nail under the slight lip but it was not very comfortable to do.
How are the rest of yo owners finding the handling of this flap?
I will be using a robust case for mine so wireless charging is out for me.
I heard back from both Spigen and Case-Mate who both said that it's unlikely charging would work through their cases and that's assuming the phone will still fit with the slightly larger charging back.
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I went to AT&T to try out the S5.
Overall a very nice phone however the one thing that I think will annoy the hell out of me is having to fiddle with that flap every time it's time to charge the phone.
I found it really hard to open and after a few tries I managed to get my finger nail under the slight lip but it was not very comfortable to do.
How are the rest of yo owners finding the handling of this flap?
I will be using a robust case for mine so wireless charging is out for me.
I heard back from both Spigen and Case-Mate who both said that it's unlikely charging would work through their cases and that's assuming the phone will still fit with the slightly larger charging back.
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That's the only thing that I find annoying about the S5. I understand it needs to be covered for water/dust resistance, but it's still incredibly annoying. I have short nails (stupid nail-biting habit) so trying to open it is always a chore. I've actually resorted to using a small thumb-tac (lol) to open it and it works perfectly every time.
I'll definitely be looking at wireless charging options once they're readily available. I rarely use a case on my S5, just because I like how it feels in the hand without one, so the different back shouldn't be an issue.
I like knowing that dirt, dust and curious little kid fingers won't be able to affect the port. I have an otterbox that has a decent opening to allow for charging, been using it all day and its around 55% batt, so I'll be okay with the cover.
I have the spigen tough armor case and I can charge the phone with no problem. It's a minor inconvenience but it's worth having the peace of mind against getting water damage.
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samsat said:
I went to AT&T to try out the S5.
Overall a very nice phone however the one thing that I think will annoy the hell out of me is having to fiddle with that flap every time it's time to charge the phone.
I found it really hard to open and after a few tries I managed to get my finger nail under the slight lip but it was not very comfortable to do.
How are the rest of yo owners finding the handling of this flap?
I will be using a robust case for mine so wireless charging is out for me.
I heard back from both Spigen and Case-Mate who both said that it's unlikely charging would work through their cases and that's assuming the phone will still fit with the slightly larger charging back.
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I have a case and I can't open the flap without removing the case. I hate it
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....I pulled that little thing out. I know its not water proof anymore, but ehh i wasn't gonna test it anyways.
I actually like the idea of covering the port, it's just very poorly executed on this phone. I really liked the sliding 'door' on the Captivate. But it's something that I'll learn to get used to.
I keep a spudger tool on my desk from an iphone repair kit...works great.
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....I pulled that little thing out. I know its not water proof anymore, but ehh i wasn't gonna test it anyways.
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You probably made the value of your phone drop so much
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You guys are lazy. It takes, what, half a second to open? Use your index fingernail not your thumbnail.
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LeKtRiCzzz said:
You probably made the value of your phone drop so much
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Your probably right. The nice thing is I have the ATT Next plan.
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Dwolf16 said:
Your probably right. The nice thing is I have the ATT Next plan.
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Will they take the phone like that. I thought it had to mint condition to return it. There is a screw under the backplate to take it out I'm hoping you did that at least
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I tugged it out lol. If they dont, then I'll just do a regular upgrade trade in and pay the remaining value. I'm not worried about it. Also it's convenient to charge.
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Who is going to be brave enough to try out one of these QI charging modules?
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charger-Including-Charging-Receiver/dp/B00DDTZN4S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398042849&sr=8-1&keywords=CHOETECH+qi+s5
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Who is going to be brave enough to try out one of these QI charging modules?
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...qid=1398042849&sr=8-1&keywords=CHOETECH+qi+s5
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The Samsung charging cover will be available soon. It works with any Qi charging pad.
My wife has been using the S4 Active since her S3 had an unfortunate dunking. The S5 charging cover is much easier to use and and worth the effort if you've ever dealt with dropping the phone into, say, the washing machine.
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Who is going to be brave enough to try out one of these QI charging modules?
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charger-Including-Charging-Receiver/dp/B00DDTZN4S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398042849&sr=8-1&keywords=CHOETECH+qi+s5
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Greycloak42 said:
The Samsung charging cover will be available soon. It works with any Qi charging pad.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-CG900IBUSTA
I kept the wireless charging pad from my GS4 im just waiting to get that wireless door battery... For now ill just have no choice to open/close the flap which takes 2 secs... I also saw a sview cover wireless charging battery door, a bit more expensive...
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Not being "lazy" but I have gel tips on my nails.. therefore opening this door without one of my kids/boyfriend or a thumbtack etc. is impossible for me. My 17-year-old suggested I rip it off but I refused because I want the dust and waterproof to remain.
I think the flap is the unfortunate, necessary evil for the water/dust proofing feature of the phone. I am not a fan of it either but it is what it is.

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