Ok I'm really frustrated with this.
On 2.1 eclair the youtube app only streams in HQ, not HD.
I updated to 2.2 and even installed the newer YT ported over from gingerbread and it STILL only streams in HQ, not HD.
WHY??? Why does google not want us to stream in HD? YT is like my favourite app yet you can't stream in HD even over WIFI. Even the iphone 4 can stream youtube in HD.
Second of all, what's with people confusing HD and HQ? Looking through posts online people seem to mistakenly say you can stream in HD when in reality they mean HQ. Do people not see the difference? It's night and day....
of course it can
just click the HD button and it will display in HD if the stream is has a higher resolution file to display
is there something I'm missing then?
I've tried many videos that have HD (on computer) on my phone and it's only HQ.
THe quality difference is noticeable.
Because it makes no sense streaming in hd on 800x480 screen unless you have set-up for hd tv output. And as far I know your galaxy sh*t ( ;-) ) can't do that. And if it could, the YT app would allow you to do that.
There is no difference between 480p and 720p on your phone. Go ahead and try it, download an yt video in both variants and see! Apparently the only difference would be in 1080p, where the audio quality would be greater, but practically, just a waste of battery and server time and... everything.
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And ye forgot, even then the videos should be optimized for that, the channel should be YouTube partner and ye, optimized for mobile. I think some videos shot in 720p with smartphones and directly uploaded to yt allow that.
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in the vibrant forum, they hacked a Froyo version of the new YouTube app, you can try that and see if you get better quality.
aside that, there are many other better 3rd party apps that can download & stream video from youtube site on HD
just type in the name of the video you want to watch and it goes straight in HD
like Tube-Mate for YouTube
i made that as my default youtube app
there is also another one that also always plays/downloads only HD versions like Tube-Mate for YouTube, but forgot the name of that other app
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Because it makes no sense streaming in hd on 800x480 screen unless you have set-up for hd tv output. And as far I know your galaxy sh*t ( ;-) ) can't do that. And if it could, the YT app would allow you to do that.
There is no difference between 480p and 720p on your phone. Go ahead and try it, download an yt video in both variants and see! Apparently the only difference would be in 1080p, where the audio quality would be greater, but practically, just a waste of battery and server time and... everything.
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Umm no.
I'm not one for all the technical details on what the phone can or can't display but there is a CLEAR difference when it comes to streaming youtube. HD vids I load on my phone are CRISP. So-called HD on youtube when streamed on the SGS is not even near crisp, while on the iphone (my sister has one) it is crisp.
A VERY good example is this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdtejCR413c
using the youtube app on the phone, if you search up "lebron commercial" and stream it in "HQ" note the quality. Then use Tube Mate another app to download the video in 720p quality and watch it on your video player.
HUGE difference in quality. It's noticeable.
I'm sorry but I don't understand how people can not notice the quality difference. HQ and HD is a big difference. I've never streamed an HD youtube video and had it appear sharp on my phone. The words HQ appear at the top and the lower quality is definitely noticeable.
AllGamer said:
in the vibrant forum, they hacked a Froyo version of the new YouTube app, you can try that and see if you get better quality.
aside that, there are many other better 3rd party apps that can download & stream video from youtube site on HD
just type in the name of the video you want to watch and it goes straight in HD
like Tube-Mate for YouTube
i made that as my default youtube app
there is also another one that also always plays/downloads only HD versions like Tube-Mate for YouTube, but forgot the name of that other app
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hey just wondering, I used Tube-Mate but even when streaming that lebron commercial it only shows up as HQ, not HD.
If I download it with Tube-mate in 720p and watch it in video player, THEN it's in HD....
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Umm no.
I'm not one for all the technical details on what the phone can or can't display but there is a CLEAR difference when it comes to streaming youtube. HD vids I load on my phone are CRISP. So-called HD on youtube when streamed on the SGS is not even near crisp, while on the iphone (my sister has one) it is crisp.
A VERY good example is this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdtejCR413c
using the youtube app on the phone, if you search up "lebron commercial" and stream it in "HQ" note the quality. Then use Tube Mate another app to download the video in 720p quality and watch it on your video player.
HUGE difference in quality. It's noticeable.
I'm sorry but I don't understand how people can not notice the quality difference. HQ and HD is a big difference. I've never streamed an HD youtube video and had it appear sharp on my phone. The words HQ appear at the top and the lower quality is definitely noticeable.
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This is a function of the Youtube app itself and NOT something merely SGS related. Want to get mad about it...Write google. This occurs on all android phones running the Youtube app...
video quality difference is definitely there
the problem comes with the 3G/3.5G speeds
HD plays fine on WiFi, but not on 3.5G (HSPDA)
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This is a function of the Youtube app itself and NOT something merely SGS related. Want to get mad about it...Write google. This occurs on all android phones running the Youtube app...
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I realize that. I did ask why wont google let us stream in HD.
AllGamer said:
video quality difference is definitely there
the problem comes with the 3G/3.5G speeds
HD plays fine on WiFi, but not on 3.5G (HSPDA)
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HD plays fine on WIFI for you?
seriously?
errr I can't possibly have a worse YT app then yours, mine is 2.0.26.
The button says HQ, not HD at the top of the video.
As mentioned, if I stream it's high quality, but not sharp.
Use Tube-Mate to download same vid in 720p, then watch in video player = HD quality and very very sharp.
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I realize that. I did ask why wont google let us stream in HD.
HD plays fine on WIFI for you?
seriously?
errr I can't possibly have a worse YT app then yours, mine is 2.0.26.
The button says HQ, not HD at the top of the video.
As mentioned, if I stream it's high quality, but not sharp.
Use Tube-Mate to download same vid in 720p, then watch in video player = HD quality and very very sharp.
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Well it's probably due to the carriers. If you were a carrier with a 3G network would you want to stream 480p or 720p video to phones with 480p resolutions??
It makes sense for the carriers, so it probably made sense to Google as well.
There are also QOS (Quality Of Service) issues to consider. It's safe to say that google and your carrier cannot reliably guarantee that you could have the bandwidth via 3g/3.5g to always and reliably be able to stream HD video. Users in this scenario would likely make the mistake of blaming the carrier, google and youtube for making a crap system and crap app, rather than making the reasoned leap that perhaps the network isn't always going to be up to the task. It's best to impose a limitation few would complain out, to guarantee more reliable service and a more reliable perception of that service for everyone.
In my experience the difference in quality between streamed and directly downloaded (and higher resolution) video is minimal, and usually dependent on the source material as well as how old the youtube video is..
But you can directly download them with apps like Tube Mate....so I'm unsure of the problem, other than it merely being a lack of patience. But if patience is the issue(due to the amount of time it takes), it'd likely have trouble streaming in a timely manner anyway.
yeah I'm aware of the amount of bandwidth required to stream HD over 3G but that's not my concern. My concern is over WIFI because I can't seem to stream in HD over WIFI. There are people here saying they can stream HD through WIFI (not sure if it's more confusion with HQ and HD) but there DEFINITELY is no option to stream in HD through wifi for my youtube app, which is the latest one (the eclaire 2.1 app wasn't able to either).
I can only stream in HQ, not HD. The quality diff is noticeable. That lebron james commercial I posted is a very good example. Just dl it with tube-mate in 720p and watch it. Compare the quality with streaming the same video in "HQ" on the youtube app...big difference. I don't get why we can't even stream in HD through WIFI?
I also don't get why some people are saying they CAN stream in HD....
Unless for some reason my youtube app is gimped (highly doubt it), these people are still mistaking HQ for HD...
and yes the whole point of youtube is to stream, so of course I would want to stream in HD. Why would I want to have to search up the video, then download it, then watch it. That's not how youtube is supposed to work....
again bandwidth/speed isn't an issue since I'm on WIFI
sorry just had to get this off my chest.
Just an update.
I found what appears to be the best app to stream HD youtube vids.
It's JetVD, available for free from the market.
It streams 720p PERFECTLY. That lebron commercial above is crystal clear.
If you choose mp4 high quality, you get the same quality as what the youtube app streams. You can also download if you want.
I love the YT interface and being able to view my account, my favourites, see related videos...etc.
I guess I'l have to use both and switch to JetVD to stream 720p.
Shame for some reason Google decided to gimp the YT app (even on WIFI).
+1 for JetVD
Been using it since Hero days, used to let me download while streaming another video, or download multiple videos at once, but the most recent updates are missing this useful ability.
Still, its free and works great for viewing HD and saving them to ur phone for offline use as well!
i have jetVD installed too
still can't decide which one is better
The videos played through WP7 and the YouTube site are insanely bad quality! Has anyone else noticed this? They don't fill the screen size and are seriously terribly pixelated.
I'm on 3G, getting 8 Mbps. There's no reason for the quality to be this bad. Does it increase the quality for WiFi? If so, that's dumb. I pay for unlimited data for a reason.
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The videos played through WP7 and the YouTube site are insanely bad quality! Has anyone else noticed this? They don't fill the screen size and are seriously terribly pixelated.
I'm on 3G, getting 8 Mbps. There's no reason for the quality to be this bad. Does it increase the quality for WiFi? If so, that's dumb. I pay for unlimited data for a reason.
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The so called YouTube 'app' is not an app at all. If you notice all it does is open up your Internet Explorer and send you to 'm.youtube.com' which is youtube's mobile version. What happened to the Real YouTube app that I had on my TouchPro2???
yes its poor without WiFi on. On most phones seems like on mobile YouTube you can select HD even on 3g. Not sure MS has blocked that option
So took a closer look at YouTube functionality for the first time last night. I knew there wasn't a dedicated YouTube app (dammit Microsoft!) so I downloaded the plug-in and the Lazy YouTube app I think it is..
Well to my shock the video quality was about as good a gameboy color. So I looked for some HD videos. Same thing. Connected to my wi-fi at home and it looked significantly better. Not sure about HD but better.
Now is this really the current situation or did I miss some hidden options?? I would be embarassed to be out somewhere with friends and be like "Hey check out this funny video I saw the other day" and then load it up and it looks like it's converted to 8-bit video.
Yea this all we have at the moment. Video only looks good thru wifi. I'm right next to a tmobile tower at my work and can download content faster then wifi but youtube videos still come out low quality when using 3g data. Someone please come up with hack to let app play hd thru data connection!
Yeah seriously, the HD2 didn't seem to have this problem so why on the HD7?!?
Hello all,
I looked around and did not see a thread like this at all, so I figured we could start one.
Personally I like to store lots of music videos on my phones to watch on busses or smoke breaks. I use a simple YouTube downloader to get my videos. I figure this list doesn't just have to be music videos, but that's all I've tested so far. I will update this post with any suggestions you throw in that you found converted 2d into 3d well. I only have one for the list so far.
MUSIC VIDEOS:
Kanye West-Power
(Just the way the music video is set up, a slow moving picture with the camera slowing zooming out, made for a really awesome 3d effect.)
LMFAO-Party Rock Anthem
(With a lot of what I've been trying to watch, I get a half decent 3d effect, mostly one thing propped forward, this video converted with lots of depths and watching it felt like the video was made in 3d)
If you know of any, do tell.
There's no such thing as a quality 3D conversion, even when done professionally at $100k per minute of footage.
Eh, I get what your saying, but quality in terms of what the phone can do.
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So are we talking about GB's new 3D converter or just when you push the 3D button on 2.2 during a video?
I'm just talking about the button pushing. Is there a gb rom that can convert videos? I just bought my phone off a person and it came rooted but I haven't picked a rom yet, any good suggestions? And how does this gb converter your talking about work?
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And is your name because you like fight club a lot?
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Yeah, TylDurden was inspired by fight club and, Man, I can't stand the 3D "conversion" on the Thrill. I didn't find it useful at all. Yes, GB on the Thrill apparently has a legit 3D Converter for games at least, I assume it works for videos as well.
Yeah, I've found a lot of the conversion to be rather lame, but these videos actually worked well. I'm going to be trying videos soon. I expect inception to do okay, and maybe the green lantern.
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RadDudeTommy said:
Yeah, I've found a lot of the conversion to be rather lame, but these videos actually worked well. I'm going to be trying videos soon. I expect inception to do okay, and maybe the green lantern.
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Try actual 3D movies on your phone and you'll see what I'm talking about. On second thought don't cause the conversion function will be broken to you like it is for me.
TylDurden said:
Try actual 3D movies on your phone and you'll see what I'm talking about. On second thought don't cause the conversion function will be broken to you like it is for me.
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... now explain a little further LOL
How did you get actual 3d movies to watch? Did you stream it from somewhere or have it transferred from a computer and watched in the video player? And what happened to your conversion? Your saying watching an actual video that is made for 3d screw something up with the phone?
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In my area Time Warner Cable has blacked out CBS... so today I can't watch the US Open games being televised by CBS. Chromecast to the rescue... just go to the US Open Live Streaming site and cast it to your TV.
Oh my it is so choppy. I have a pretty new router that I bought last year and 20 mbps internet yet it's really broken up. I'm the only one using the internet, too. When I just stream it on my computer monitor it's amazingly HD with no problems at all.
That being said CBS is back on Time Warner anyway so it's all good. It would have been funny especially seeing the TWC logo all over the US open as they're a sponsor, yet TWC wouldn't have been able to show the US Open for their customers.
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Oh my it is so choppy. I have a pretty new router that I bought last year and 20 mbps internet yet it's really broken up. I'm the only one using the internet, too. When I just stream it on my computer monitor it's amazingly HD with no problems at all.
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The limitation is caused by the CPU of your computer not your internet speed. It is hard to really have a smooth experience with video on the Chromecast using screen casting no matter what CPU you use.
Well my CPU is pretty good. My computer's just a little bit over five years old but it's still a good custom built gaming computer, so I doubt that's the issue.
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Well my CPU is pretty good. My computer's just a little bit over five years old but it's still a good custom built gaming computer, so I doubt that's the issue.
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That is absolutely the issue. Search the threads in this forum. It is having to transcode in realtime which is very difficult to do. That is why screen casting will never be smooth.
The Apple TV seems to do it really well, and I'm not sure how far it is specs wise but it doesn't seem like that much. Although I'm sure the Apple TV tries to steal a lot of the bandwidth in exchange for amazing quality. We have an Apple TV here and the mirroring is just wonderful but of course not much I can do with my phone on it. Chromecast can't seem to handle the scrolling on webpages perfectly yet while the Apple TV shows stuff like Fruit Ninja with absolutely no lag. Hopefully it's just a software issue that gets resolved soon.
I think it's the same with FaceTime as well with the large bandwidth take but the quality on that is amazing as well. Haven't really seen anything to match the quality of that, even when it's something like Tango or Skype or Hangouts on super fast internet vs. Facetime on ****ty internet, Facetime seems to do better. And it's not just a matter of better, it's like super high frames per second and HD quality as though playing a video on Youtube or something.