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HTC falling further and further downhill...

So HTC seems to have run completely out of new and innovative ideas and when they do now it's just depressing. Their recent devices are just re-releases of the same device over and over except with a bigger processor and perhaps a better camera. They barely bother to change the chassis anymore. The last decent innovation I saw HTC come up with was the G1 Z sliding mechanism and how did they follow that up? G2 Z-hinge? Yeah, how's it hanging? After this they went on to release the HTC surround? Is dropping acid mandatory to be a hardware designer at HTC these days because those guys had to be on something to think that was a remotely decent device. I mean all in all aside from processors HTC's hardware is third rate. Their outdated screens are just depressing and their build-quality leaves something to be desired. What happened to the days when HTC seemed like the future of phones? Did their time already come and pass?

z33dev33l said:
So HTC seems to have run completely out of new and innovative ideas and when they do now it's just depressing. Their recent devices are just re-releases of the same device over and over except with a bigger processor and perhaps a better camera. They barely bother to change the chassis anymore. The last decent innovation I saw HTC come up with was the G1 Z sliding mechanism and how did they follow that up? G2 Z-hinge? Yeah, how's it hanging? After this they went on to release the HTC surround? Is dropping acid mandatory to be a hardware designer at HTC these days because those guys had to be on something to think that was a remotely decent device. I mean all in all aside from processors HTC's hardware is third rate. Their outdated screens are just depressing and their build-quality leaves something to be desired. What happened to the days when HTC seemed like the future of phones? Did their time already come and pass?
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Huuhahah. nice word play. It leaves something to be "desired"
On a more serious note. i agree. no innovative designs from the guys @HTC.
Also specs wise i really have the feeling the competition is starting to get ahead. More 1080p dual core shiney stuff htc!. get with the program.

HTC chassis design is the best so you could say there is no point trying to re-invent the wheel. Without making drastic, and therefore unpopular changes to their designs there are only so many things they can do!
I do think their quality control could be better though and i'm still fuming that they did diddly squat to rectify the hardware issues with the Nexus One. Rather than flooding the market with derivitive products perhaps they should focus on making fewer but better handsets.

your still a fool if you buy somthing over the hd2 and your a htc fan (and your not a millionaire)
karma shall reward the ones who are patient

HTC got into the popularity game now, when before they were in the quality game. Carriers WANT HTC to make phones for them, and since carriers like to release a new phone every two months, there is no way HTC can be innovative. HTC is in it for the money, which is what most companies do. And you tell me, if you had a skill, made decent money on it, then a few people wanted you to use your skill towards their business, and all will pay you a ****load, you would do it.

After reading a Thunderbolt review another glaring HTC oversight was apparent. The micro usb charging port is on the side of the device, which is bad enough, but it's on the side that will be down when using the kickstand in Landscape, so you can't watch a movie and charge simultaneously
How are they making such fundamental errors?

On my experience is nothing related only to HTC, every brand is going slow as they want us to buy mobiles every year, if they launch (and sure they can) a super ultra nice device a lot of us would go for it and probably won´t upgrade as fast as they want.
So they want our money and that´s because they won´t go as fast as you want...
Just my opinion...

now hang on let's not be super drastic about htc and trust me, I've been extremely critical of htc
see
http://wmpoweruser.com/editorial-me-to-nokia-thank-you/
and while I have been critical, I am intrigued with their new button layout and design. It does look a bit more modern, but does that mean we users will get a better experience vs. the famed tp2 keyboard?
Now otherwise I do agree with one thing - HTC is in an era of non innovation. I would love to have a vertical slider from htc to compete with the dell venue pro; I'd also like to have some more odds and ends from htc. Why consumers aren't getting them is beyond me. Perhaps it legality, which would make sense. But overall, their chassis designs need a major change...

HTC still is stable and will surely have a huge share in the mobile market for the next 2-3 years (till tablets come into the mainstream)
See Nokia, they have been completely wiped off the mobile scene. The new E series is a huge flop. Even with their publicity nothing is happening with Nokia. It is alive only because of the low-end mobiles.
Secondly, SE. Even they are not aware of what they are doing. Just making mobiles, selling and forgetting about them. They are'nt even worth of being in the market
Cant say anything about samsung
As much as i know, Motorola will be the leading player in the coming 2-3 years. Seeing its exhibits in the CES '11 they surely have a lot of innovation coming in the mobile industry

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See Nokia, they have been completely wiped off the mobile scene. The new E series is a huge flop. Even with their publicity nothing is happening with Nokia. It is alive only because of the low-end mobiles.
Secondly, SE. Even they are not aware of what they are doing. Just making mobiles, selling and forgetting about them. They are'nt even worth of being in the market
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they both doing really well in europ tho

The qHD, new sense, and a 3d phone is really falling down! Sweet bro.
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Let's be real, what else can you do aside from making the outer case of the phone a different color? Only thing you can do, is add on features and carrier support. 3d being one of them, a 4.3" device with a more updated network modem(3.8" for Tmobile), being the Mytouch 4g, Inspire 4g, Thunderbolt, and the Evo. You have your sliders with updated network modems, g2 for Tmobile, and Evo Shift for Sprint. HTC has always gone with a couple different design choices, and personally I think they look great. They can only do so much with the SoC they use, seeing that they use qualcomm SoCs that still perform pretty nice, even the 65nm versions(But not the gpu. Adreno 200 sucks). What else do you want from them? A TV with an LTE modem that runs Android 2.3 with Sense in 3d? Admitting, the HD7 has some problems with build quality but every company has an issue like that with a device. Hell, Samsung has many devices with problems.

One thing that's hindering everybody is battery technology. That's a hurdle to overcome. I wish that the manufacturers would quit with this bigger is better approach that they seem to be taking. I'd like a phone i can actually put in my pocket!
Of course having bigger devices makes it easier to fit all the components into a slim form factor, and a lot of people seem to like them, so the manufacturers benefit. But these bigger screens have got to be having an impact on battery life, right?

Nsandhu23 said:
The qHD, new sense, and a 3d phone is really falling down! Sweet bro.
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wat phone is that

Two things to say up front:
1. I am an HTC fan.
2. I am a former Samsung (Moment) customer and I would never go back.
Now, I do think Samsung has flashier styling, and probably HTC's design department could take some lessons from them.
That being said, I still love my EVO 4G and wouldn't trade it for the world.

Well at least you guys have 4g. Our only 4g carrier retardedly made an exclusive deal with Samsung for their phones. Sigh...
Snet from me HTC Dserie using lé XDA app. Excuse typoz.

souljaboy said:
wat phone is that
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Evolution 3D which will be announced March 22nd.
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DirkGently1 said:
HTC chassis design is the best so you could say there is no point trying to re-invent the wheel. Without making drastic, and therefore unpopular changes to their designs there are only so many things they can do!
I do think their quality control could be better though and i'm still fuming that they did diddly squat to rectify the hardware issues with the Nexus One. Rather than flooding the market with derivitive products perhaps they should focus on making fewer but better handsets.
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I agree!
+1

souljaboy said:
wat phone is that
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Just like I said earlier. http://m.androidcentral.com/sprints...ils-leaked-expect-evo-3d-evo-view-4g-and-xoom there you have it
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just a word: HTC = UGLY
no style, no innovation... no taste.

IS not that popular based on number of posts?

I busted up my Legend and I got a Nexus S as a replacement. This I returned because I didn't like it much, mostly because I didn't like the way it felt in my hand. (Too plasticy)
Now I'm in the market for a new Android phone and the IS is a potential new phone. But purely based on the number of posts here and the activity level in these posts, the IS is NOT a popular phone. What's up?

The two major reasons I think are:
This thing is very very new and it's only available in Europe at the moment.
If it's not popular, so what. Do you like it? If you don't, then don't buy it.
You have a valid point though if you buy a popular device, there will almost certain be lots of developing for it.
On the other hand this thing looks nice and techy, so I think/hope developers will like this thing.
Meh, the only major reason for me not to buy it was the locked bootloader, but it'll get cracked somehow.
Track and traced my order and the driver is on the way! Can't wait for that doorbell to ring

This thread is much, much more quiet
Desire S
I really think this thing is just to fresh out of the oven

One reason could be that the Desire S haven't come out for sale yet whereas the Inc S have been out for almost a month now.
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My bad... I feel stupid

Right now the phone is still pretty new and it's only being sold overseas. This phone will take off more once it lands on Verizon in the states. Plus if you already have a phone that came out within the last year this phone wouldn't be that much of an upgrade. Plus a lot of people might be waiting to make their next jump to a dual core phone.

The NAM 3G version is going to launch on Virgin Mobile Canada sometime in the next month or two. Note that the Verizon version would be CDMA and should probably get a distinct subforum unto itself.
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I'm getting the Indridible S, so that's settled. BUT it's because my Legend is busted. If it was still usable, I would have kept it. The Incredible S is just the only viable option right now.
"Plus the Incredible S lacks any unique differentiating features. You know, something like dedicated gaming keys (the XPERIA Play), or a Super AMOLED screen that can seal a deal by itself.
All that coupled with a high asking price like this makes the Incredible S a device that’s pretty hard to recommend. Of course, if your carrier offers it at a bargain price you may disregard this argument and get the handset – the solid smartphone experience is guaranteed.
Yet if you are looking for a SIM-free device and are paying full price, we feel there are better alternatives out there."
This is as true as it is sad....
Nexus S : Don't like the contruction, too much plastic, it's too "slippery" in the hands. My MAIN gripe is that they've moved the back button farthest away and it's the button you use the most.
Optimus 2X : Sorry, this is an ugly UGLY phone.The back looks like it something from 1994.
Xperia Arc : Too big, lovely phone.
Desire HD : Too big

NardVa said:
Plus if you already have a phone that came out within the last year this phone wouldn't be that much of an upgrade. Plus a lot of people might be waiting to make their next jump to a dual core phone.
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I think this is an important point. Any one who has a higher end existing phone will be more likely to go for the dual cores. From what I've seen there isn't a big difference between the Desire and Incredible S prices compared to the new LG dual core phone, so who is going to buy a single core phone if that's the case? I would be happy with an Incredible or Desire S, but at a lower price than is currently being asked for... Let the prices start dropping now please.... I want a new cheap phone!

Sebastian768 said:
I'm getting the Incredible S, so that's settled. BUT it's because my Legend is busted. If it was still usable, I would have kept it. The Incredible S is just the only viable option right now.
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I had a T Mobile band Nexus One and didn't have any intentions of getting a new phone unless it was a major upgrade over the Nexus One. (Probably would have made the Pyramid or T Mobile GX2 my next phone this summer) Unfortunately I broke my Nexus One so the Incredible S was the best option for me at the moment. I still want a dual core phone but instead of making the jump this summer I'll probably make the jump early next year.

Waiting for some next-gen dualcore devices isn't a bad idea.
But the technology is still very new, and I would like to see the actual improvement of the use experience. Afaik apps have to be updated to support dualcore. Until I SEE something truly amazing, a significant speed change in the browsers rendering or something like that. Why would I need dualcore? Of course higher numbers are cool. But if it were to be same speed, more eyecandy. I'm perfectly happy with a single core.
It does what I wan't and it does it fast. Why dual core? Do we need it yet?

Is this phone much of an upgrade over the Desire? Am due a new phone but don't want to make the price jump to a dual core yet.

I cannot wait for this phone.
I used to have an HTC Touch GSM and was the best phone i've ever had,
I'm waiting for it to come to Bell with NAM 3G

kopkiwi said:
Is this phone much of an upgrade over the Desire? Am due a new phone but don't want to make the price jump to a dual core yet.
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Spec wise the Incredible S is a tad bit better but I don't think it's a big upgrade over the Desire.

DaanJordaan said:
Waiting for some next-gen dualcore devices isn't a bad idea.
But the technology is still very new, and I would like to see the actual improvement of the use experience. Afaik apps have to be updated to support dualcore. Until I SEE something truly amazing, a significant speed change in the browsers rendering or something like that. Why would I need dualcore? Of course higher numbers are cool. But if it were to be same speed, more eyecandy. I'm perfectly happy with a single core.
It does what I wan't and it does it fast. Why dual core? Do we need it yet?
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You're right. There isn't a big need for dual core right now. The only real advantage I see to having dual core now is for the gaming aspect, but the high end game market is still in the early stages. As far everyday things like web, email, face book, you tube, Pandora, etc a single core phone does just fine.

NardVa said:
Spec wise the Incredible S is a tad bit better but I don't think it's a big upgrade over the Desire.
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So what would you recommend?

kopkiwi said:
So what would you recommend?
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If you have to get a phone now the Incredible S would be a good choice. I had a Nexus One, which is similar to the Desire, and went to an Incredible S. I was looking at the Nexus S also, but I prefer the build quality of HTC phones over the Samsung phones. Just a personal preference.

Any SGT jumped shipped and bought the HTC Flyer yet?

I will visit the Best Buy store later this week and will try out the Flyer.
I have the 3G Galaxy Tab for T-mobile USA and I don't know if I should replace it with the Flyer or not.
My main concerns are the video playback and and the battery life. I am not sure if I will be using the pen that much.

nope. will not jump ship cause the flyer is not a real upgrade.
NO HC yet and only has a single core(though @ 1.5ghz).

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nope. will not jump ship cause the flyer is not a real upgrade.
NO HC yet and only has a single core(though @ 1.5ghz).
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That and it costs $500 WITHOUT the pen.

The fact that it's wifi only for $500 and the wifi Tab is $350 is making me say no. I love HTC products and if the price was comparable, I'd gladly pick it over the Tab. I like the size. I like the specs. I like Sense. I like the manufacturer. I do not like the price.

Almost...but they didnt have the pen! They couldnt even find the Tabs till i told them they need to look harder. Glad i didnt buy it, just would of been my soft spot for gadgets. STG is a great tab, but yes HTC is even better and will have alot of dev support as all HTC devices normally do. I have a sprint STG and i get lonely not able to flash anything with out beaking something else....Whats a phone, tab, computer..with limited support. So i may get it once it goes down to $400. With Best Buy discount its already $470 "employee looked it up while in store"...SO there is a large markup. We will see.

No way. The SGT is better for my daily routine. Besides I would be giving up the cell phone capability.
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If I didn't have a tab (got a new one 2 days ago, 3g for 200 bucks, yay!), I'd still look at it.
It does look great, both in looks and internals.
But WITH a device already? I think I'd wait for another cycle before getting a new device. It's not /that/ different. (now, an Asus Transformer with dock? yummy).

I like the unibody and it looks well build, but it is heavier than the tab so that is a nono
the pen is a huge plus to me, ill love to see how well implemented is with the applications, the demos I have seen on the web show that you can write while your palm is resting on the screen with no problemshttp://media.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
Also it is pressure sensitive, but according to what I've seen on the web does not seem to make much of a difference....... aaand the writing is not that good, you have to make big letters (perhaps similar to what used to be with old WM devices?)
So the pen is a big improvement compared to those crapacitive styluses but it still not where id like to be in quality yet,.. but it is a step in the right direction and hopefully will allow developers to create interesting applications
Also I don't hold any hopes in video and camera performance compared with our Samsung Tabs, sorry HTC but in my experience your cameras are usually not that good and on video and music it is hard to beat Samsung (even without Voodoo sound installed)
But....with all of the above said and what I seen on the web, the final prove is on the pudding, so if/when I have one in my hands I may be greatly surprised/pleased...time will tell
What I really would like is to try in our tabs that ultrasonic stylus that was demonstrated in MWC? a wile ago
Hope I make sense (pun intended), Engrish is not my second vodka...or was that third?... and the beers aand...
Nite

Htc flyer has max video playback of 720 p @30 fps with no hdmi so galaxy tab beats it with hands down
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It can't do cellular call, or can it? So it's a no go for me.
But it looks like a good tablet.
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Will the HTC One become as legendary as the HTC HD2

For anyone who is on XDA a few years and previously owned a HD2 or Leo as it was also known I'm wondering if the One will become as legendary or even surpass the HD2?
The HD2 was a revelation as developers could do so much with it, the HD2 forums used to be a hive of activity and i remember the first time developers managed to flash android on what was a Windows 6.5 phone we thought it was amazing, given the one is looking like it's gonna be very very popular let's hope some of the developers come onboard and make this phone even better.
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Short answer? Yes.
The HD2 is still an awesome phone. Even stock it's still very competent at what it does 3+ years after its release.
What it can't achieve in stock mode you can accomplish whatever is left by booting into Droid.
Where can phone specs go after the HTC One?
11? The One already does 11.

HTC HD2 was one of the first if not the first phone that had all at once:
- capacitive (glass) screen
- big screen
- somewhat open architecture, so you can install other OS
- powerful CPU (although that is relative in time)
- good design
- ability to run Android (cool OS) while it originally run Windows (meh OS)
HTC One is not that special. Not even close. It can be remembered as one of the most pretty phones, but not more.

I lost my S3 and luckily there was an unused HD2 lying around the house. Wow, amazing phone. After all these years it's still awesome. I tryied out WP8 on it, works flawlessly; might try out android soon with dual boot.
The phone just looked good, even after all these years it's not outdated at all, the design is amazing and the components are top notch. Really great work. Let's hope the One can do the same

It was hampered with only 512mb ram - It was full in no time with android on it. I tried running it from sd card but it was stuttery.
The Tmobile 1gb might have been a different story - But for me it's a bit over hyped

I believe that at this time, owning any flagship except Xperia Z (it's great, but many mediocre parts lead to being unimpressive for some) will make almost anybody happy, whether S4, GPro, One or upcoming phones.
However, the bad production and marketing cannot make One fly. True story.
Ok about marketing, even HTC said they will put more effort, but still no where near the huge amount of endowment from Samsung, for sure.
But production is a bigger problem. Choosing aluminum is not wrong for the quality of product itself, but a bad idea for production.

No matter how good the One is or becomes, it will never top the HD2.
It was so far ahead of its time it was unreal, held down by Windows Phone, I am pretty sure it ran Android better than my Sensation ever did and of course it could run whatever it wanted.
The HD2 was unrivaled, but the One has the S4 and the Xperia ?something? with the same chipsets.
I love my One tho!

No.
When the HD2 came out, it was really different & powerful compared to what was available, but with the HTC One, there are many close competitors. The S4, LG, iPhone5, Xperia Z, HTC's own DNA/Butterfly.
The HTC One is a great phone, but it is NOT considerably better than the competition.

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It was hampered with only 512mb ram - It was full in no time with android on it. I tried running it from sd card but it was stuttery.The Tmobile 1gb might have been a different story - But for me it's a bit over hyped
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You do understand that HD2 was released 3 and a half years ago, right? How can be over hyped if it can run today WP7.8 really smooth and ICS/JB from NAND with some lag here and then, but completely usable and fine?
What other 3 and a half years phone can do that? What other 2013 phone can do that?

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What other 3 and a half years phone can do that? What other 2013 phone can do that?
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Indeed.
Looking three and a half years ahead:
Someone invents virtualization for the HTC One which allows you to run WM 6.5 / 7 / 8/ 8.5 /
Ubuntu / Symbian and a host of other operating systems and legacy apps in RAM / virtual RAM
Let's hope the HTC One has the endurance that the venerable HD2 has.

Surely, all phone I pick always is legendary, I still believe on my choice.

Wasn't the HD2 just an EVO 4G with a crappier camera and no kickstand?

Honestly, no it won't.
Of course it would be amazing if it ever happened but what are the chances of it happening?
The HD2 is the most developed phone ever and even though it's so old, it can still run the latest Android updates and WP updates aswell. I don't think any other phone ever will be as legendary (in terms of what it has achieved) as the HD2.
It was ahead of its time by a long way and that's what helped the success of it.
The HTC One isn't ahead of its time by such a difference, even though it's the best phone around.
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It was hampered with only 512mb ram - It was full in no time with android on it. I tried running it from sd card but it was stuttery.
The Tmobile 1gb might have been a different story - But for me it's a bit over hyped
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T-mobile 1gb? I remember the international version got only 448mb ram & 512mb of ROM and the T-mobile version got 512mb ram and 1gb ROM. Just saying, as others might think 'T-mobile 1gb' in a different way.
And in those days, I felt jealous as the T-mobile people got a great device with much higher storage and 1gb internal storage and 512mb ram were awesome. And it became great as Android is not popular and there's no galaxy series and no competition. Apart from all these things, the HD2 got great developers like COTULLA and Darkstone. I remember his team releasing MAGLDR bootloader for HD2 as a new year 2011 gift for the world, I can still remember that moment after I saw that post along with the stock version of Android with Sense. And one word to say about Darkstone, he made a build which has used Ram as Nand, instead of Phone storage. But the device was never perfect in hands, It can only be used as a secondary. All this happened, as the device was completely unlocked and after all it got great developers, who made it legendary.
@OP I don't think it's ever possible again with any device. Now a days it's taking at least a year time to achieve S-Off and some like One X(International) may take even 2 years, after that it's old and a newer one arrives, and everyone including the developers think of that new one. Same routine!
It might happen, if the bootloader is completely unlocked and if the device is capable of dual boot etc, which I see has a 0% chance. So, it's waste of time to compare any device with HD2.

I was thinking this myself, the HD2 is probably the most "loved" phone ever on these forums and for good reason, even though I jumped ship to Samsung I used to still pop into the HD2 forums for a look and was amazed that development was still thriving and still is albeit on a much smaller scale these days.
Can't wait to get the HTC One but will always have a soft spot for the HD2
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@shree.cse: I totally agree with you. Cotulla is a "genius", but Darkstone1337 in the beginning played an important role.
A very important factor was that HD2, Desire/Nexus and HD7 shared the same hardware, which made easier to port different OS. Also, HD2 was the top phone, there was no competition, you could not get a similar top Android phone. So, many of us bought the HD2 because of that, but after using Android, WM felt old. There was a "need", an "urge" to port Android into it, which also happened with WP after HTC announced that HD2 would not get WP7 because it hadn't 3 button layout (once again f**ed by HTC).
Things are different today, Android is much bigger than WP and the choice is made between top Android phones, not top different OS phones. Top phones keep coming out, incrementally - but not substantially - better, so it's hard to a phone to become such a legend, with such hacking involved. It is simply not needed.

I am always jealous and always blown away by how amazing the hd2 is, and how it still has unbelievable development 3yrs in. I remember in April 2010 trying to decide between hd2 and Evo 4g. It was too hard for me to leave sprint, so I went with Evo (which also still has a pretty amazing level of development),
No phone will be as legendary as hd2. I am really interested in getting a One, but the amazing devs for my device (Evo LTE) already have ported the one/sense 5 to our device, so that will hold me over for a bit
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@shree.cse: I totally agree with you. Cotulla is a "genius", but Darkstone1337 in the beginning played an important role.
A very important factor was that HD2, Desire/Nexus and HD7 shared the same hardware, which made easier to port different OS. Also, HD2 was the top phone, there was no competition, you could not get a similar top Android phone. So, many of us bought the HD2 because of that, but after using Android, WM felt old. There was a "need", an "urge" to port Android into it, which also happened with WP after HTC announced that HD2 would not get WP7 because it hadn't 3 button layout (once again f**ed by HTC).
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Well said mate, but Afaik, it's Microsoft decision of not upgrading HD2 due to button layout. And they did the same with HD7 as well, saying some other b******t reason.
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myself11 said:
@shree.cse: I totally agree with you. Cotulla is a "genius", but Darkstone1337 in the beginning played an important role.
A very important factor was that HD2, Desire/Nexus and HD7 shared the same hardware, which made easier to port different OS. Also, HD2 was the top phone, there was no competition, you could not get a similar top Android phone. So, many of us bought the HD2 because of that, but after using Android, WM felt old. There was a "need", an "urge" to port Android into it, which also happened with WP after HTC announced that HD2 would not get WP7 because it hadn't 3 button layout (once again f**ed by HTC).
Things are different today, Android is much bigger than WP and the choice is made between top Android phones, not top different OS phones. Top phones keep coming out, incrementally - but not substantially - better, so it's hard to a phone to become such a legend, with such hacking involved. It is simply not needed.
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Ah yes Darkstone I remember him well and Cotulla too, havent seen or heard from in a long time are they still around
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Cotulla is trying to port Win 8 RT to HD2 Once in a while I go check his twitter account to see what he's doing. It would be great if he bought a HTC One, but he finds Android boring.
Darkstone IDK, I think he's no longer on XDA. I sometimes check his twitter account, but don't see anything "xda dev" related.

So has anyone considered switching to HTC One?

Was just wondering if anyone had tried the S4 for awhile only to now reconsider going to the HTC One...

What's an HTC One? Never heard of such a device that has the expanding configurable capabilities that the S4 possesses.

oohaylima said:
What's an HTC One? Never heard of such a device that has the expanding configurable capabilities that the S4 possesses.
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Lol. I havent played with it - so I have no idea what the features are on that phone.... I'll have a look this weekend.

Before buying the S4, I gave heavy consideration to the HTC One. I watched videos and reviews from multiple sources.
Overall, these are the reasons why I chose and will continue to stick with the S4:
- Battery Life - Our battery is much better than the HTC One. I compared it to a friend who has the HTC One and he was averaging about 2hr 45 min on screen time on a typical day where I've been getting close to 5hrs screen on time.
- Latest Android Software - I know it probably doesn't make a huge difference, but I really like 4.2. The lock screen widgets come in handy. Being able to check my Falcon Twitter and Gmail without even unlocking the phone is a huge plus.
- It's Samsung - What this means is that our phone will still be receiving firmware upgrades all the way into mid 2015. Not saying that the HTC One won't, but HTC is in real trouble, and if they go out of business, that my make things very complicated for current HTC users. Plus, even afloat, I've heard awful things about timeliness of firmware updates from HTC.
So yeah, I bought the S4 and I'm not looking back.

Came from the HTC One. I liked it a lot but the S4 works a lot better for me.
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Nope! I will gladly take a 5" 1080p screen over a 4.7" 1080p screen anyday.
Worrying about pixel density in screens this small is silly, I rather have more useable screen real estate.

mjs2011 said:
Before buying the S4, I gave heavy consideration to the HTC One. I watched videos and reviews from multiple sources.
Overall, these are the reasons why I chose and will continue to stick with the S4:
- Battery Life - Our battery is much better than the HTC One. I compared it to a friend who has the HTC One and he was averaging about 2hr 45 min on screen time on a typical day where I've been getting close to 5hrs screen on time.
- Latest Android Software - I know it probably doesn't make a huge difference, but I really like 4.2. The lock screen widgets come in handy. Being able to check my Falcon Twitter and Gmail without even unlocking the phone is a huge plus.
- It's Samsung - What this means is that our phone will still be receiving firmware upgrades all the way into mid 2015. Not saying that the HTC One won't, but HTC is in real trouble, and if they go out of business, that my make things very complicated for current HTC users. Plus, even afloat, I've heard awful things about timeliness of firmware updates from HTC.
So yeah, I bought the S4 and I'm not looking back.
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^^ This
Plus, after having previous HTC devices that lost all official support after 6 months or less I will never buy HTC again.

CCallahan said:
^^ This
Plus, after having previous HTC devices that lost all official support after 6 months or less I will never buy HTC again.
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Yep. One of my buddies asked me to root his Evo about 6 months ago and I was shocked to have to settle for a Gingerbread ROM. I had thought for sure there would be some stable ICS roms available but every ICS or JB rom had at least one major flaw that my friend wouldn't have been able to live with.
Hell, even my my old LG Optimus V has a stable JB rom.

No removable battery + no expandable memory = no thanks
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SAShady said:
No removable battery + no expandable memory = no thanks
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Absolutely
I love the 90s. Good times.

I had a One for about a week. It's a great phone and a really good attempt by HTC. I still miss a couple things from it but everything already described here outweighs everything it has to offer. I always end up back with Samsung.
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Also had the One for a week. It was a seriously great phone. The design of the phone is just gorgeous. Also the weight of it was really nice.
Sense looked and worked great but is not nearly as customizable as tw. And as good as the design and materials seemed, it was not durable or built well in the least. A 2" drop caused some severe corner rash and even a dent. Battery life was excellent but during my first full day with this device, im on track to destroying the htc as far as battery life.
Was def a great attempt and design, but the overall quality of construction and materials is severely lacking. Ill take my new slippery plastic cheap looking s4 over the one all day every day.
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Also the screen wasnt totally flush with the body of the phone. And the top and bottom trim was perfect on the right side, and both hella gapped on the left side. Like I said, great design, poor build quality.
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SAShady said:
No removable battery + no expandable memory = no thanks
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^^^ This. Until such time that every manufacturer switches to this unreasonable design thereby forcing me to accept it, I will never purchase a phone (especially at full contract price as I buy most of my devices) that doesn't offer removable battery and expandable memory. I very much dislike having to rely on cloud storage to house the things I want access to at all times.
Having said that, I admit I considered it, because I loved my OG EVO so much (which of course offered both removable batter and expandable storage), until I read a multitude of reviews (mostly positive) but there are some build defects that would absolutely drive my OCD tendencies through the roof, so I opted to stay with the brand I know. Now if they'd just move the power button to the top of the phone I'd be thrilled. lol

I gave this a lot of thought and spent quite a bit of hands on time with both devices before settling with the S4. Every time I think of the HTC One I quickly remind myself of the poor software, camera, ergonomics, and lack of support that HTC provides for their phones. I simply don't trust HTC as a company and the Google S4 helped keep me with Samsung that much more. The minor issues with the S4 will be fixed soon enough and then it won't really be a competition as far as I'm concerned. I'm really curious to how many Ones have been sold compared to the almost 10 million S4s, which came out what, a month after the One. And I actually use the "gimmicky" features of the S4. The other day I was working on my car, hands filthy black, covered in grease and dirt. My dad called instead of missing the call waved my hand over my phone and spoke to him. I don't use these features always but if I'm at work or doing something were I will get dirty I turn them on. I couldn't do that type of stuff on the One. There is also things like the One not supporting quick charge even though it has the same Qualcomm chip? Maybe the metal was getting to hot on charge so they disabled it? Anyway I'm totally content with my S4 and I feel time will just keep reassuring my decision to stick with Samsung. :thumbup:
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Nice big screen, lightweight and slim, plus what Shady said, not a chance!

I, like many above, looked very hard at both before pulling the trigger on the S4. I'm coming off a long line of HTC phones, but my wife has had the S3 for about 6 months. I do all the tweaking of the S3, so I use it a fair amount, and had grown to like TW more than Sense. Plus, the S3 always stomped my HTC Evo 4G LTE whenever we'd be looking something up on the internet, downloading something, etc. We'd be doing it side-by-side, and the S3 was better EVERY time, and usually by a large margain. That really planted the bug to move to Samsung for me.
I've never looked back One-wise. I might have a few minutes of doubt early on while learning the phone, but I'd have just returned it and gone back to my Evo, or bought an S3. But I'm just thrilled with the phone at this point. It really works well. I'm out on the lake fishing and pull up a radar map, boom, it's there, every time. On my HTC, very hit or miss on the same lakes. And the daylight pictures are stunning, something I could never say for my HTC's.
Bottom line, the S4 works like I've always wanted a smartphone to work.

Never. Not even a little bit.
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After the review on the HTC One spoke about how awful repairing it would be and how opening the device pretty much destroys the phone I decided to pass. The S4s "lack of build quality" makes me laugh as the the HTC One's guts are awful whereas the S4 is well put together and its plastic outer materials are more reliable than the aluminum of the HTC One (denting and scratching). Also, as the others before me the unibody design of the One against the removable storage and battery of the S4...NO BRAINER! The Sprint variant also shipped with SIM card so that was a huge bonus for me (in the military so being out of country won't force me to buy a new cheapo phone). Samsung is also more likely to get updates and those updates last longer than HTCs. With a Google version on the way I am stoked as it could very well mean we will get some devs to port some of that amazingness over to the branded variants. Also, I did come from HTC Evo 3D in case you think I'm just another Samsung fan-boy.

GS4 to HTC 1
heyjoojoo said:
Was just wondering if anyone had tried the S4 for awhile only to now reconsider going to the HTC One...
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Yes.
I rooted my EVO 3 years ago in 2-3 carefully researched hours.
I'm into 2 days across macs Linux and windows exploits. Samsung: I'm not very good but if I can't get root this weekend, back it goes!

greenja said:
Yes.
I rooted my EVO 3 years ago in 2-3 carefully researched hours.
I'm into 2 days across macs Linux and windows exploits. Samsung: I'm not very good but if I can't get root this weekend, back it goes!
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You do realize basically all of us have it rooted right?