[Q] What temperature is too high? - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I have been overclocking my galaxy s and have been wondering what temperature is too high for the phone that it might cause hardware damage. I have heard that running high temperatures will eventually shorten the life span of the device. I am more worried about frying the phone than shortening the lifespan.
Right now if my battery temperature goes above 55 degrees Celsius I turn off the phone.
I know that in the original Sammy firmwares the battery would not charge if the battery temperature was above 60 degrees Celsius and in some custom firmwares this level has been reduced to 50 degrees Celsius.
Does anyone now if there is any built in safety in the phone where it will shutdown if the temperature is too high or am I worrying for nothing?

I used setcpu or voltage control to bring my frequency down to 800 @ 50 celsius, just to be safe, but that is just me being safe! Thank me if this helps
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Well, I'd also like to add that keep an eye on the ambient room temperature. On a warm atmosphere it'd take a lot of time to cool off contrast to a chilly one.

Thanks for the replies and the advice guys

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Overclocking vs Heat?

Ok..everybody knows about batterstatus and its amazing overclocking abilities. With this known, my question is, what is a good temperature range with the batterystatus temp monitor...are there certain temperatures that we need to become cautious with? ...I personally am at 260MHz and usually range anywhere from 32 to 80 degrees celsius.
Also, I personally am from Houston, TX...a VERY hot region. Could this also have an effect? What temperatures would be getting dangerous for the wing to be at?
Is it possible to fry a wing? lol =o
Thanx
Although our wings have a default speed of 400, under clocking too 260 would save you a lot of battery power in the long run.
Now if your talking the T-Mobile wing your in the wrong forum Try the Herald one I believe it is.
Now temperatures are trickey, this is a phone and has several different things to pay attention to. Theres not an active cooling system to dissipate the heat your creating. If you think about what temperatures most PC's start to have issues at and use that as a guage you should be okay. The materials and battery could start being affected if you take it too high.
I would personally get worried if it hit the 60c stage. However your best option is to look at what temperature it is with the stock speed on a hot day after some heavy usage to heat everything up. With that in mind then you can guage how high to overclock your phone.

[Q] Temperature limit?

Hi all,
I'm traveling today to a pretty hot place where the temperature can get to 55-55 degrees Celsius. I wanted to know If any one knows of any temperature limit, that if crossed may damage the screen to the electronics of the phone?
Thanks
I think the battery has a maximum operational temperature, and that the instructional booklet specifies what. Additionaly, this one time, at JPK, I was playing rescource-hard games while listening to music, and the phone turned off. I think it was around 55 degrees celcius. But check the booklet!
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i've hit 61c and still working fine
others have reported 65c
AllGamer said:
i've hit 61c and still working fine
others have reported 65c
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Does he mean room temperature or operating temperature though? If the ambient temperature is 55 deg C, then the phone itself will reach MUCH higher temperatures than an environment of 20deg C (because dissipation of heat becomes increasingly difficult).
Check the manual to see the tested ambient/environment operating temperature range. I doubt many manufacturers test beyond a 40 deg environment/ambient temperature honestly, because humans need to maintain a core body temperature of 37deg C anyway, but the maximum operating temperature of the internal components probably isn't known.
If you must operate your phone in a very hot climate, I'd suggest you only use your phone when absolutely required, and disable features such as bluetooth/wifi to keep it cool. But if it were me, I'd get a militarised phone..
If you are referring to the phones internal temperature (and the outside air temperature is much cooler), then 55 deg C is most likely fine. Solder's melting point is far above 100, and the Pentium 3 at least was shut down at 100deg C.

Safe CPU temperature

Hi guys,
What is safe Tegra 3 temperature? I tried SetCPU stability test for 20 minutes at 1.6GHz and System Tuner Pro showed 72C. I'm correct, 80C is bad? I also suppose SetCPU stability test is more aggressive, than games or any other apps.
I user to run v10a firmware which often ran to 80° with no ill effects. I would be concerned if it rose any higher. The phone is built to shut down at 90° so I wouldn't worry too much, it can handle the heat
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i had my device shut down twice while running werewolf with no skin throttle. i put the shutdown temp at 80 degs celsius. this happened after an hour of gaming. so yeah, it could probably run even more. i think default nvidia's shutdown temp is 120(!) degs celsius. not sure where i read it though.
I have throttle set to 75 and shutdown to 85. This is more than enough for me.
I wouldn't let my device go anywhere higher than 80C... It might be able to handle more than 80, but I'm not willing to risk it
Winudert said:
Hi guys,
What is safe Tegra 3 temperature? I tried SetCPU stability test for 20 minutes at 1.6GHz and System Tuner Pro showed 72C. I'm correct, 80C is bad? I also suppose SetCPU stability test is more aggressive, than games or any other apps.
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I saw it from a kernel's changelog (don't remember the kernel's name), it said in the changelog "Tegra 3 default safe temperature : 85 C"
but I wouldn't recommend going above 80 C, it would reduce lifespan of your phone, not even mentioning the battery.Since battery is pretty close to tegra 3 chip, it gets effected by the heat chip generates
The main problem with high temperatures is not the chipset-temperature but the battery shouldn't get too hot. Li-batteries will be destroyed on high temperature. It's around 50 °C.
Did you hear about bloated or exploded phone batteries? This were cases of high temperatures.
blumenkasten said:
The main problem with high temperatures is not the chipset-temperature but the battery shouldn't get too hot. Li-batteries will be destroyed on high temperature. It's around 50 °C.
Did you hear about bloated or exploded phone batteries? This were cases of high temperatures.
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Strange thing. Hot in the SoC area (top), not at all where battery is.
Winudert said:
Strange thing. Hot in the SoC area (top), not at all where battery is.
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Because it is actually the SoC what gets hot. Look at temperatures in Trickster mod (or any similar app).
Better be careful, be careful burned out CPU
Mr.Fong said:
Better be careful, be careful burned out CPU
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It's just one thing - Tegra 3 chip is awful. I watched a lot of review of Optimus 4X HD, but not in one was talked about awesome hot, sadly. Though Tegra 5 are looking very nice now with Kepler GPU, but I'm furious on nVidia and when I will buy phone next year, it not will be powered by nVidia chip. I'm crossing fingers on next gen Intel Atom SoC.

Is idle temp of 35°C too high for new Note 9

I bought a Note 9 last month and I am noticing the idle temps are around 34-35°C. I live in a hot country where the avarage ambient temps whole year are around 33°C. With moderate, non gaming, work the temp goes to even 42°C. God knows how high it will go if I gamed.
I have found some people saying that anything above 30°C will lessen the lifespan of the battery. So I am bit worried after paying a lot for the phone I wont be able to use it even 2 years. I aim to use this phone for 3-4 years.
I was under the impression that Note 9 had some water/carbon cooling system, which seems to be useless here. Are these temps normal? Should I be worried? Will it have some long term effect? Are there any tips to make battery cooler?
I used Accubattery for these temp readings.
I wouldn't think 35°C is too hot.
No.matter what claims Samsung make for their improved cooling the ambient temperature is always going to effect the battery and cpu temperatures.
Whether we're discussing cooling a phone or a vehicle engine unless using some kind of refrigeration the coolest temperature is going to be above ambient temperature, so higher ambient temperature will cause higher internal temperature.
I wouldn't think it will have a significant detrimental effect on battery life although as you state gaming or other high power usage such as Sat nav is obviously going to push the temperature higher, I expect battery and soc management will keep things in check if temperatures get too high.
I wouldn't be worried about battery life unless sustained temperature of in excess of 45°C.
Lower temperature does tend to benefit battery life a little, ideally around 20°C should give optimum battery life in terms of charging cycles.
My advice would be enjoy using your phone, don't worry.
paul_59 said:
I wouldn't think 35°C is too hot.
No.matter what claims Samsung make for their improved cooling the ambient temperature is always going to effect the battery and cpu temperatures.
Whether we're discussing cooling a phone or a vehicle engine unless using some kind of refrigeration the coolest temperature is going to be above ambient temperature, so higher ambient temperature will cause higher internal temperature.
I wouldn't think it will have a significant detrimental effect on battery life although as you state gaming or other high power usage such as Sat nav is obviously going to push the temperature higher, I expect battery and soc management will keep things in check if temperatures get too high.
I wouldn't be worried about battery life unless sustained temperature of in excess of 45°C.
Lower temperature does tend to benefit battery life a little, ideally around 20°C should give optimum battery life in terms of charging cycles.
My advice would be enjoy using your phone, don't worry.
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Thx for the reply, I don't game much so thats not a problem, I have noticed phone does get hot when using GPS which I have to do more frequently to navigate; but I am in the car in AC, so I think it would be manageable.
PhoneBabe said:
Thx for the reply, I don't game much so thats not a problem, I have noticed phone does get hot when using GPS which I have to do more frequently to navigate; but I am in the car in AC, so I think it would be manageable.
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just the sun hitting it can push the temp. but it might simply be a rogue app or something.
if freshly resettedþfactory wiped its under 30c, you know it was an app that you installed that caused it.

Battery temperature problem

I bought a xiaomi mi 9 phone a few days ago, I found on the internet that the battery in the phone should reach low temperatures. I would like you to check if they are normal.
When playing not only demanding games, the battery quickly reaches a temperature of about 38 degrees Celsius.
During normal internet browsing, the battery reaches about 36 degrees.
While watching Youtube the battery reaches 33 degrees.
Sometimes these temperatures are lower. I care about the assessment because I want to finally take care of the phone. Thank you for your help and sorry for poor english.
If you want our opinions on whether those temperatures are acceptable or not, you have to also share the ambient temperature.
38 C should be normal for 23-24C ambient, don't be fooled by some supposedly "light" games that are badly optimized and eat the battery alive causing heating, just because a game is 2D doesn't mean it consumes less battery.
36 C for "normal internet browsing" seems too much, I get way less at 23-24 ambient, not more than 30 C.
33 C for youtube is fine especially if the videos are bright with sound turned on.
The ambient temperature is about 22-23 degrees, maybe a little more. Unfortunately I don't have a thermometer inside the house. Now while browsing the internet, the temperature was between 31.5-32 degrees.
Usually the screen brightness is set to half the bar or slightly more than half.
Are you sure your battery have this temperatures? Sounds like the cpu for me instead.
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I am 100% sure. Are these temperatures good or should I give my phone back for warranty?
I will add that I always charge the phone from 30% to 85%, apparently so there are less charging cycles.
When charging, the battery reaches a temperature of 36-37 degrees.
I never charge it at night. When I was sleeping, the battery level dropped from 30% to 26%, that's ok, right?
sebek123hg said:
I am 100% sure. Are these temperatures good or should I give my phone back for warranty?
I will add that I always charge the phone from 30% to 85%, apparently so there are less charging cycles.
When charging, the battery reaches a temperature of 36-37 degrees.
I never charge it at night. When I was sleeping, the battery level dropped from 30% to 26%, that's ok, right?
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Hmm thats a strange behaviour. My battery has 27 to 30 degrees at charging. Im checking with aida64.
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I found the characteristics at the link:
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/326f9d/10
Temperatures look similar, how do you rate my temperatures? Should I care?
Edit:
Could any of you do a stress test from antutu? I put my results below. Next to it is the battery temperature right after the test, which reaches almost 40 degrees Celsius. I will add that I have a case from xiaomi.

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