Hey guys I hard bricked my captivate and need help evaluating what I did wrong so I can prevent it from happening in the future. I just received the device in the mail (it was a replacement device) and tried to use odin one click JF6 to flash it to eclair. I've done this process 100's of time with my previous captivate but with my new one I saw that it was hanging at sbl.bin and my device turned off. I unplugged the usb, did a battery pull, and used my jig and the phone went into download. PHEW... Thinking that my JF6 odin was corrupt or something I decided to use Odin One click JI6 and the odin hung again but this time I wasn't so lucky. The phone wasn't showing any thing and the jig was infective. The phone hard bricked. My question is how did I brick it and why did it hang when I tried odin one click,. (Odin one click has always worked flawlessly for me in the past). Also are froyo and eclair bootloaders the same? If were to flash JF6 2.1 eclair using odin3 over Rogers Froyo should that work?l (BTW my device is 10.11 build)
edit: I understand that odin one click always has a risk involved because your flashing boot loaders but I just want to distinguish whether it was just an unlucky odin flash or something to do with the build number. Thanks
thats a good question. As far as I know Froyo and Eclair have the same bootloaders, but as far as the Odin problem- im sorry I have no idea.
A lot of people on here have bricked their captivates by using OneClick Odin. What happened was that your replacement captivate came with stock froyo which does not work with OneClickOdin. You were on the right track by going to stock JF6. Not sure why it failed for you but if you would have tried it again I'm betting money it would have successfully flashed. Sorry to hear about your troubles.
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A lot of people on here have bricked their captivates by using OneClick Odin. What happened was that your replacement captivate came with stock froyo which does not work with OneClickOdin. You were on the right track by going to stock JF6. Not sure why it failed for you but if you would have tried it again I'm betting money it would have successfully flashed. Sorry to hear about your troubles.
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Lol.. now I'm even more confused. You start out by saying the reason it wont work is because his phone came with stock froyo...then you finish by saying your on the right track, it should have worked. ..wtf??
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Coreym said:
Lol.. now I'm even more confused. You start out by saying the reason it wont work is because his phone came with stock froyo...then you finish by saying your on the right track, it should have worked. ..wtf??
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Yes search for other threads about oneclick NOT being cooperative with newer model captivate sthat came with stock froyo. I said he was on the right track because the correct method to go back to stock is JF6. Which can be found in Icezar1's continuum thread which requires odin 1.3, the pda file, etc. If he would have simply tried the JF6 process again it would have completed rather than using 1 click odin and messing up everything. Read the second post of this thread where ZELENDEL says that newer captivates with froyo don't work with oneclick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093926
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Yes search for other threads about oneclick NOT being cooperative with newer model captivate sthat came with stock froyo. I said he was on the right track because the correct method to go back to stock is JF6. Which can be found in Icezar1's continuum thread which requires odin 1.3, the pda file, etc. If he would have simply tried the JF6 process again it would have completed rather than using 1 click odin and messing up everything. Read the second post of this thread where ZELENDEL says that newer captivates with froyo don't work with oneclick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093926
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First of all JF6 is NOT a "method" of going back to stock. JF6 is stock firmware. And I could be wrong but I thought icezars program gave you
Stock firmware 'JI6'? I'm not next to my computer so I do t really know off the top of my head.
*EDIT* Your right, icezars1 program is JF6 firmware. However it is only given as an alternative. Even states in his OP the only reason why Odin3 Oneclickdownload would not work would be because of an unreliable USB driver. So this is indeed a safer way to get back to stock JF6. Odin3 one click should work too. It's unfortunate that it doesn't "always" work.
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First of all JF6 is NOT a "method" of going back to stock. JF6 is stock firmware. And I could be wrong but I thought icezars program gave you
Stock firmware 'JI6'? I'm not next to my computer so I do t really know off the top of my head.
*EDIT* Your right, icezars1 program is JF6 firmware. However it is only given as an alternative. Even states in his OP the only reason why Odin3 Oneclickdownload would not work would be because of an unreliable USB driver. So this is indeed a safer way to get back to stock JF6. Odin3 one click should work too. It's unfortunate that it doesn't "always" work.
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I'm sure you understood what I meant when I said JF6. It is certainly a rom and the process mentioned in Icezar's thread is one of the preferred methods of downgrading a newer model captivate that is on stock froyo. Let's hope that we have answered and clarified all questions for the OP.
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I'm sure you understood what I meant when I said JF6. It is certainly a rom and the process mentioned in Icezar's thread is one of the preferred methods of downgrading a newer model captivate that is on stock froyo. Let's hope that we have answered and clarified all questions for the OP.
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i actually didn't understand what you meant. You make 2 refrencses to using JF6 as a method. First you said the correct method to go back to stock is "JF6", then you said the JF6 process. Again...both refrences to a single JF6 method, when that is not the case. Both methods used to get back to JF6 stock firmware use Odin. One is a one click program, the other a manual flash using .tar.md5 file.
Duuhdave, if im on stock froyo (im in canada btw, so rogers) and use cezars method of flashing stock firmware through full blown odin, should I be flashing jf6(i897 2.1) or rogers 2.1? I ask this because ussualy they want you to on jf6 before flashing.
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As far as flashing to stock with Odin 1click from stock Froyo, it has worked fine for me MANY times. Bricking using the odin 1click may be related to build number. I went from a 1007 (with stock 2.1) to a warranty repacement 1008 with froyo stock. I flashed 2.1 without a problem, and have several other times.
Using Odin 3 one-click, and icezar1's stock rom will both take you to I-897 AT&T stock JF6. If you want to return to Rogers stock 2.1 without flashing bootloaders, use TRusselo's Rogers Captivate Stock ROMS no ATT logo!.
Thanks for the help!
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its the build number that caused it
More than likely it was something about the phone having stock froyo with the 3e recovery. I have never had the issue with any of my 2 captivates 1007's and wife's 1010 build but they came with stock eclair. I know many people have had issues due to the stock froyo with 3e recovery as why there is a modded 3e recovery how to somewhere on this forum. Since he laready had froyo boot loaders it has nothing to do with that, and either was a fubar flash due to 3e recovery, bad USB cable, etc that messed things up.
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Ok, so I have Froyo on my Captivate from a looong time ago, but now I want to put in Andromeda 2.0. I followed the directions but then it says i have to get back to stock firmware. I got my Captivate on October 25, so it had the JH7, so now I need to get back to that firmware. Anything before that would brick my phone, so I'm trying to find an Odin restore that will get me back to JH7. And yes, I have googled it up a lot. Could you tell me or post a link, where I might find it?
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Ok, so I have Froyo on my Captivate from a looong time ago, but now I want to put in Andromeda 2.0. I followed the directions but then it says i have to get back to stock firmware. I got my Captivate on October 25, so it had the JH7, so now I need to get back to that firmware. Anything before that would brick my phone, so I'm trying to find an Odin restore that will get me back to JH7. And yes, I have googled it up a lot. Could you tell me or post a link, where I might find it?
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1) Wrong section
2) You really do not need to go back to stock, that is just a disclaimer used. If you understand you have the possibility of bricking your phone than just flash the ROM. I will help you search but if you search the Dev forum rather than google you will find the thread for JH7 Odin. The only time you really need to go back to stock is with a bad flash, which sometimes can be fixed by flashing the ROM a second time.
Ok thanks, sorry for the wrong thread I'm just about to do the Andromeda 2.0 now.
Also, so it doesn't matter that I have the leaked 2.2 firmware, I can still download it with that rather than the 2.1?
yes you can flashhhhhhhhhhhhh if you don't make your phone into a paperweight
I got a replacement 1010 with jh7 installed and had no issues using the odin ji6 one click restore on it.
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Write lets get since information in here...
No technically you do not need to go back to stock but it is always a good idea. No matter what phone model or what stock it came with going back to jh6 is the best bet. It is the tried and true method and better then jh7.so just use the normal common odin
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You could just flash over but the thing you would have to get past is 3e recovery there is a fix for that. I think there was a time when all new roms in xda were based on official 2.2 software back in october and november of last year and it had 3e, and the easiest way to get past it was to flash stock first. also there are two versions of odin you should try to get familiar with and a recently updated wiki sorta thread should be useful for up to date info. Hope this helps.
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I just had to warranty my original Cappy because of a power button issue. It came stock with 2.1 Eclair and I never had any issues rooting/flashing/ or otherwise messing with it.
The "new" one I have has 2.2 Stock on it, is there anything different about what I need to do? Will ODIN 1-click bring it back to 2.1 without much hassle?
I looked for over an hour and couldn't find any specific answer.
Thanks for the time,
Bassahaulic
questions go in questions ...
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This is the Development Section, you should've posted this on the Q&A Section instead.
I just had to replace mine last week, just do as you did on eclair rooting was same as was installing an updated ROM
with only 21 posts I think we can forgive a post in the wrong section
When I upgraded (way back when) to the official Froyo 2.2 through Kies, just to check it out, I could only get it rooted through this...View attachment SuperOneClickv1.6.5-ShortFuse.zip
Or you could just flash a rooted Dev Kernel through Odin.
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When I upgraded (way back when) to the official Froyo 2.2 through Kies, just to check it out, I could only get it rooted through this...View attachment 646699
Or you could just flash a rooted Dev Kernel through Odin.
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I cant verify this but i did have trouble as well re-rooting it after i did the kies update so i just flashed JF6 with odin one click and then re rooted it and its been fine every since. Im not sure what att did but this KB1 through kies sure made it hard to re root when i did the update and i wasnt impressed by it either(go figure). I hope that helps. I do know that odin one click to JF6 will just about fix everything or if your having trouble rooting with the 2.2 KB1
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I just had to warranty my original Cappy because of a power button issue. It came stock with 2.1 Eclair and I never had any issues rooting/flashing/ or otherwise messing with it.
The "new" one I have has 2.2 Stock on it, is there anything different about what I need to do? Will ODIN 1-click bring it back to 2.1 without much hassle?
I looked for over an hour and couldn't find any specific answer.
Thanks for the time,
Bassahaulic
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Yes everyone it does belong in QA and I am sure it will get moved.
To answer your question about 2.1, becareful and have a read through this thread in relation to my experiences with an 1104 build:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105776&highlight=1104 downgrading with JF6 was bad juju
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I would just flash to 2.3.3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127249
Or just the stock AT&T boot loaders from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821
Then go about loading your desired kernel/rom combinations
I got a replacement Captivate from AT&T and I just noticed it has a Froyo baseband version of I897UCKB2 loaded. Googled and searched XDA for any references to this version. It is also weird that the label under battery was replaced as well. Looks like a homemade label printed on white. Supposedly build 1010. Anyone received anything like this?
Yes, there was a thread about this a few weeks ago. Nobody knows what's the difference between KB1 and KB2. As for the sticker, I think that's normal for refurbs.
With KF1 Gingerbread already leaked out, who cares about KB2 Froyo.
You right. Time to move forward. Thanks for the info. I'm ready for a tasty ice cream treat.
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I might hazard a guess that it might have HSUPA enabled like some of the updates for Atrix...?
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I just got a replacement and it's also got KB2.
Looks like the same old 3G speeds. No HSUPA or unlocked sideloading. GPS is an improvement from my previous replacement. Locking indoors sometimes and accuracy holding mostly at 15 feet when moving. Previous model was only never got better than 30 feet and stayed at 90 mostly. GPS was redirecting all the time as it thought I was on adjacent streets. About to go to Gingerbread.
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mugenazul said:
I got a replacement Captivate from AT&T and I just noticed it has a Froyo baseband version of I897UCKB2 loaded. Googled and searched XDA for any references to this version. It is also weird that the label under battery was replaced as well. Looks like a homemade label printed on white. Supposedly build 1010. Anyone received anything like this?
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isn't the kb2 version is the update enabled sideloading for captivate?
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isn't the kb2 version is the update enabled sideloading for captivate?
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I just got the KB2 version as well and i can't figure out how to sideload apps. There isn't an option to turn on. I can't even root the thing.
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I just got the KB2 version as well and i can't figure out how to sideload apps. There isn't an option to turn on. I can't even root the thing.
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have you tried superoneclick 1.7 to root your phone? then for sideloading apps use aio captivate tool
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have you tried superoneclick 1.7 to root your phone? then for sideloading apps use aio captivate tool
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I have AIO for my old Captivate. shortfuse.org was down when i went to get Superoneclick. I see now its up, but it does not have a download yet. Any one have a mirror of it?
Edit: i see the links in the original thread for Superoneclick. Ill post back with my results.
I used Superoneclick to root the kb2 and enable sideloading. I assume this rom is just "bug fixes" and of course the signed boot loader. Flashed gingerbread following Cog 5 beta 3 tread. Of course once I got all apps loaded DG posted Cog 5 v1.
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Hey There ...
I received my replacement with KB1 and its an 1101 (date code) and not able to go to "Stock JF6" so my stock is KB1 ! NP there tho.
Just received my wife's replacement with KB2 ... 1010 (date code) not sure if it can do JF6 ! Im assuming not. Not gonna chance it anyway. I already messed up a 1101 trying to go to JF6. Lost 3 button recovery, download mode ... blah, blah !
So Im not going to try it. Her 1010 is working fantastic right out of the box. GPS, everything.
Now for the question
Im not finding a stock KB2 ROM (odin or other)
Does anyone know and/or have tried to go stock KB1 from KB2 ?
Any issues I should be aware of ?
Thanks Guys !
I do believe that the KB2 build is a pathetic attempt to slow people down with modding.
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I do believe that the KB2 build is a pathetic attempt to slow people down with modding.
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I believe it is their way to know if you flashed anything else when asking for a replacement. There is no way to get "stock" KB2 back - what came on that serial number phone - "No warranty for you..."
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My phone is now out of warranty.
So KF1 Gingerbread it will be.
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I believe it is their way to know if you flashed anything else when asking for a replacement. There is no way to get "stock" KB2 back - what came on that serial number phone - "No warranty for you..."
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Thats what I am thinking as well !
What Im wondering now ... as I do not have much experience with ROM Manager ! Can I do a Rom backup, do whatever (load custom ROM's) then if needed load the Backed up ROM ? I know I would have to root ... But cant you un-root then do a factory reset after uninstalling ROM Manager, super user, etc ... ?
Just wondering
I can't exactly remember if my last replacement had KB2 or KB1. I'm almost positive it was KB1, though. It didn't have 3 button combos.
Anyway, I used a Jig to get to Download mode, flashed JF6, and went back to modding as usual.
Maybe the Download Mode Jig is the key so you can flash with ODIN or Heimdall from download mode.
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I can't exactly remember if my last replacement had KB2 or KB1. I'm almost positive it was KB1, though. It didn't have 3 button combos.
Anyway, I used a Jig to get to Download mode, flashed JF6, and went back to modding as usual.
Maybe the Download Mode Jig is the key so you can flash with ODIN or Heimdall from download mode.
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I have no issue with the button combos (DL mode or recovery) ... I also have a jig. The problem is with (I believe) models 1010 and higher, have issues with JF6. So FJ6 is not an option. Which is not a deal. I can get to stock KB1 no problems !
The question is ... Since there does not seem to be a "stock" KB2 Rom. Can I make a backup with ROM Manager of the KB2 ... then (if needed) revert back later ?
As stated before ... ATT knows that the phone was shipped with KB2 ... and sending it back (if need) with KB1 may not fly !
There does not appear to be an update or ROM that I have seen.
Similar to the JH7 update ...
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I have no issue with the button combos (DL mode or recovery) ... I also have a jig. The problem is with (I believe) models 1010 and higher, have issues with JF6. So FJ6 is not an option. Which is not a deal. I can get to stock KB1 no problems !
The question is ... Since there does not seem to be a "stock" KB2 Rom. Can I make a backup with ROM Manager of the KB2 ... then (if needed) revert back later ?
As stated before ... ATT knows that the phone was shipped with KB2 ... and sending it back (if need) with KB1 may not fly !
There does not appear to be an update or ROM that I have seen.
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Flashing back the backup from CWM recovery (started from ROM manager, perhaps) will put you back to KB2. The only problem is that the modem (baseband) will not revert back to KB2. That will have to be flashed separately (after extracting and inserting your current KB2 modem). This is how you would backup your current KB2 modem (type this at the shell prompt; assuming you haven't changed ROMs already!):
dd if=/dev/block/bml12 of=/sdcard/modem.bin bs=4096
Insert the above modem.bin into any working CWM zip modem file and flash.
You might also want to backup your kernel using the SGS kernel flasher.
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I believe it is their way to know if you flashed anything else when asking for a replacement. There is no way to get "stock" KB2 back - what came on that serial number phone - "No warranty for you..."
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... just means you better have hard bricked the device before trying to exchange it again
I have flashed my phone in the past, but now I read something about some people not being able to go back to JF6. I plan on installing Apex, and i dont want to mess this phone up.
If i do try with one click flash back to jf6, am i risking bricking my phone? (I have a jig btw, but i know these phones can actually hard brick to where the jig wont help)
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I have flashed my phone in the past, but now I read something about some people not being able to go back to JF6. I plan on installing Apex, and i dont want to mess this phone up.
If i do try with one click flash back to jf6, am i risking bricking my phone? (I have a jig btw, but i know these phones can actually hard brick to where the jig wont help)
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Newer Captivate do not like to go back to JF6. Try this link it will allow you to flash froyo instead.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1191094
tried that method, ended up not completely wiping my phone for some reason, and the second i turn the phone i got fc's to the point where the phone was unusable.
I used one click odin to get to jf6 and it seemed to work.
When you say these phones dont like it, does that mean that a flash back to jf6 using this method that seemingly went well might actually be messed up?
Try this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1266172
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Try this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1266172
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Whats better to flash back to UCKB2 or jf6?
And whats the difference between those programs. Im most comfortable with odin one click, but is there something wrong with using that? Could that be causing my problems?
Phones that came with Froyo usually bootloop when flashing eclair. Both heimdall packages provided should work. There is a KB1 package for ODIN somewhere as well.
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Phones that came with Froyo usually bootloop when flashing eclair. Both heimdall packages provided should work. There is a KB1 package for ODIN somewhere as well.
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is there any advantage to flashing kb1 over jf6? I mean, flashing to jf6 seems to work everytime....
If it's worked before it'll continue to work... If your phone was going to bootloop from jf6 it would have done it already.
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Have you tried downloading the jf6 firmware from Samfirmware? Its a full Odin version, but I don't think it has bootloaders (which is perfect for flashing stock before a ROM).
So I accidently bricked a build #1010 phone using oneclick to revert to stock, not realizing it wasn't compatible. I found this today on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127249&page=29
My phone currently is build 1009, got it through a warranty exchange, came with froyo pre-installed. Is it compatible or will I brick trying to run? I am also aware of the recovery and the "unsigned packages" thing...do I need to change the recovery first before I run? Thanks
You would brick if you went to 2.1, but that is totally compatible! Have fun and. After flashing that go look for. Stock KH3 and you have to flash KF1 then KH3. Just a min I will link you to everything.
KF1- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127249
KH3 CWM kernel- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242533
Stock KH- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232703
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Thanks for the quick response! Yes my previous phone was build #1008 and I ran oneclick several times on it with no issues. My wife made a warrenty claim on hers, and I thought i'd be nice and install cog on it, and I couldn't get the recovery to work so without even thinking about it I ran one-click on it, and I bricked it. Honestly I had no idea what build number my phone was back then, but after the brick I found out her new warranty exchanged phone was build #1010
Ever since I've been deathly afraid of running anything with bootloaders. When my speaker died on my original captivate I didn't run one-click, instead i used Odin3 and found a CWM flashable eclair rom, and ran that instead, and then used kies mini to go to froyo. I've had my newer captivate since July, and been running stock since, getting sick of all the issues it has, none of which i noticed in cognition. I actually logged on to get Froyo Cognition, but the links are all broke to it, so I figure I might as well try gingerbread out.
I'm on KH3 stock right now and its great! And it's the GB bootloaders that fix the 3button fix, no need for eclair bootloaders since they are backwards compatible!
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Wait you hard bricked? with 2.1 stock 1 click? Ive heard of bootloops but never hard bricked.
He soft bricked probably, not lowly to hard brick on a 2.1 flash unless he did the3 button combo fix
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Well I'm pretty sure it was hardbricked. It wouldn't do anything, no 3 button, no trick anyone suggested to try, it just stayed black and unresponsive. I don't have a jig but that was about the only thing I hadn't tried... So I gave up and made an insurance claim. And to be honest I haven't put a custom rom on since
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Did anything happend if you pressed power? If it didn't then Odin might have failed while flashing a bootloader....
Nope nothing. Basically half way through it just stopped responding and i eventually gave up and unplugged. It wouldn't do anything. It happened to a friend of mine too but luckily for him when he pushed the power button he got the warning sign on the screen. My phone was completely dead and wouldn't respond at all
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all you have to do use the odin one click to go back to stock which is jf6 then use odin 3 and you can goto kh3. no other flashes are needed. ive done it this way 10 times and no bricks.