Froyo or Gingerbread?? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi!! I would like to know which one version of Android you think is "better" for now in Captivate! ***SYMPLY GALAXY S ll (newest)*** or ***Cognition (newest)*** ?? Those are the ones I like the most, if you wanna add more options, Do it! But the point is....Gingerbread or Froyo?
Which one is faster, nicer, better, etc etc... for you?? Why??

caddi234 said:
Hi!! I would like to know which one version of Android you think is "better" for now in Captivate! ***SYMPLY GALAXY S ll (newest)*** or ***Cognition (newest)*** ?? Those are the ones I like the most, if you wanna add more options, Do it! But the point is....Gingerbread or Froyo?
Which one is faster, nicer, better, etc etc... for you?? Why??
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As for froyo or gb I think its obvious that gb wins the race by far being superior to its dying predecessor.Allthough I've tried only 2 gb roms both were great,I just happend to like Mosaic rom theams better.Both Continuum and Mosaic are very stable and smooth, jvh and jvo fixed lota previous jvb issues and the kernels are making great progress as well,in fact talon and xcal's latest could be called final editions.Gb is getting a even newer update 2.3.4 were froyo will be left in the dust i'm guessing(only cog is being updated nicely)Gps doesnt need no fix on gb outa box ,it locks and tracks great vs froyos cpl roms still strugle.Looks I think are you to decide which u like better,read through the themes section of roms and c for yourself.I was afraid as well be4 the switch but I'm glad I went for gb.

I'm actually suprised this thread has lasted this long without being closed. This debate has gone on NUMEROUS times and there are several threads on it. I'd suggest you search and see which one you think is better/safer.

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[Q] what is better MIUI -OR- Simply Honey?

(since my last thread has been deleted, I will ask again
EDIT: AND Cyanogen Mod 7 ROM DOES IT HAS BETTER CAPABILITIES??
I wanna know which rom has better capabilities simply honey or miui
(Capabilities=
which rom is faster(miui or SH) or they have +- the same speed?
which rom is stabler? or they are the same..
which rom has more and better features or they have the same?
this things..)
thanks for helping
NOTE- I have already read both SH's and MIUI's threads
NOTE- if you have nothing helpul to say to my question and you just wanna say negetive comments- do NOT NOT NOT answer!! its not the place for you
simple honey
its perfect
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
i would go to simply honey it's simpler and really good. im not on simply honey but looking at the specs of the rom it seems really good. however front camera doesnt work as it says on the ROM and you need to reflash another kernel!
another thing is they have took out apps that came in with SGS from the stock ROM some of it i find very useful. i think the speed of both ROM is quite the same ^_^.
thanks !! waiting for more people---and which rom offers more features? SH or miui?
(and I have SH 3.2 dont wanna update it to3.5 because there are problems with 3.5)
There are no problems at all with 3.5....you're getting crazy man....you're paranoic!
Try and judge!!!
Sent from my SGS with Simply 3.5 Revolution ROM
simone201--i've already tried..
there might be problems!! now I have simply honey 3.2 so I dont want to upgrade due to all the problems in 3.3 . (and as I said- 3.5might include some problems too)
p.s- why am I getting crazy ? lol? it seems you are..
waiting for more people and help please..
please help me guys.. need more comments
FFS.....
Do your parents still cut the crust off your sandwiches for you.
Just flash the rom and find out for yourself. If you don't like it... Move on to the next.
WOW.. what a noob 10 years old... next time use your parents in order to understand what I've written before posting a new comment!! (sorry for you..)
need help please!!
darixtorento said:
WOW.. what a noob 10 years old... next time use your parents in order to understand what I've written before posting a new comment!! (sorry for you..)
need help please!!
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Please, stop bumping this thread and making new ones!
This is terrible, you cant compare those 2 roms.
And you said you've tested them both, so why not use that one that's better?
if its hard to understand, the word "them" means to simply honey 3.2 and 3.5 !!!
of course I can compare ONLY about the CAPABILITIES
(about how the room feels/looks/ beutiful or not-- all this things of course, I will decide by myself and im NOT asking for that)
NOTE- if you have nothing helpul to say to my question and you just wanna say negetive comments- do NOT NOT NOT answer!! its not the place for you
people please help me.. !
Dude, both are awesome. But you can not compare the two ROMs! Simply Honey is 2.3.3 based and MIUI is 2.3.4 based!
The difference in features are very minor, maybe a little here and there. But basically both are equally good ROMs. Try it out for yourself and see which one you like!
I'm currently running MIUI MCGv3 which is fantastic but it is not quite as complete as the stock custom roms like Juwe's or Simply Honey, two of the biggest let downs being the lack of an FM Radio and choppy MKV playback. But in saying that it is stunning visually and has a lot of cool unique features. I haven't used Simply Honey only Juwe's so this could be a little biased. All in all you'll have to try them out yourself, different rom's for different people and different needs.
vijaykanth--- thanks god that's what I want to know -- "The difference in features are very minor" omg thanks finally someone understands!! well I hope your right..
Shrapnel2--- thanks you very much!
still need more people and comments
**and what about the speed? the speed is preety much the same in both roms or one of them is way more faster?
(and look guys, all about how the rom looks and feels of course I will decide by myself.. im looking for the rom who has better features, and fast rom. so thats what im asking if the features, speed, stable and all this stuff are the same +- in both roms or not)
darixtorento said:
**and what about the speed? the speed is preety much the same in both roms or one of them is way more faster?
(and look guys, all about how the rom looks and feels of course I will decide by myself.. im looking for the rom who has better features, and fast rom. so thats what im asking if the features, speed, stable and all this stuff are the same +- in both roms or not)
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The main reason I moved to MIUI from Juwe's is that I was getting bored of the same old interface even with changing round png's in the framework and modifying bits and pieces- everything still looked bland to me. Speedwise I think that if you compared the two(Juwe's or Simply Honey on ext4) you would find them to be fairly close, I think lists tend to load faster on MIUI but it has been a while. Stability is fairly good but not 100% of the time, eg before settings Force closed on me, no biggie though as I had apps fc on Samsung GB roms too. Another thing to note is battery isn't the best on MIUI, you'll easily get a day under average use but don't expect three day marathons like some Samsung roms do. So good luck on picking!
each rom is better if the person likes it .I use miui but before that i used simply honey and it was good but i like miui better .It has lots of new features
I installed Simply Honey 3.5 the day it was released, I was previously using Darky's Rom v10 and I was very happy with the change. SH is visually beautiful, I installed Dark Core kernal after installing it to fix the bluetooth issues with CF-Root.
The front camera is still displayed sideways but thats no concern to me since I barely use it anyway. Love the new lockscreens, the market is a bit odd to look at but it doesn't bug me too much (if it does there's plenty of themes out there). After flashing the SGS2 email apk I was very pleased with my phone. It's been a lot more snappier than Darky's and haven't noticed any lag at all..
I'd take Simone's advice and install SH 3.5, you wont be dissapointed =)
Just try both for a full day - you can revert to your previous one anytime with a nandroid backup.
as far as I've understood -after restoring applications, the andorid market and applanet might not recognize them as 'installed applications'. then, I will not be able to update my restored applications
and thanks everyone!!! waiting for more comments..

Stock Gingerbread Q&A

I was browsing the forum and saw a few questions for stock 2.3.3, so here's a Q&A for the stock 2.3.3 Rom.
Remember no question is a bad question.
NO flaming, namecalling...
Remember to include Kernal and modem in your problem description
Links:
KF1 "stock" Build. (NOTICE: not official but predicted to become official) http://hotfile.com/dl/121085939/d827808/I897UCKF1.rar.html
Odin will replace the I9000 bootloaders with the new captivate ones, which can be incompatible with I9000 roms. And I9000 bootloaders can be incompatible with captivate based roms.
I believe Heimdall will work without flashing bootloaders.
a guide on how to flash
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...-3-gingerbread-firmware-on-samsung-captivate/
Will add more links later.
Some answered questions.
Can I flash a Froyo rom when I'm on Gingerbread?
Yes. Just remember to flash the kernal and rom at one time. Also make sure there is no bootloaders in the package.
Why does my screen turn black during a call?
It's a bug with gingerbread, place your finger on the proximity sensor and remove it to get a screen.
Can i flash Gingerbread from...
Yes
Why should I be worried about flashing gingerbread?
You shouldn't, the talk of bootloaders might make you anxious but just with any other rom you need to make sure that the files are in the right place and your USB cable stays in.
Reserve post to organize it better.
There is no "Stock Gingerbread" for the Cappy until AT$T/Samsung release it. What we have now are developed GB ROMS based on a released code base, but they are not stock for the Captivate. This thread title is confusing.
So I asked a question in another thread that I searched and hoped would be the appropriate place but the thread was closed with no explanation or direction??
So I did some more searching and I found this one next and ask a more simplistic question first.
I do not have a custom ROM so which thread would be appropriate to ask a question for a stock ROM? (I know technically 2.3.3 is not stock yet)
Why is there not a sticky thread for stock ROMs? i.e... Eclair Q&A, Froyo Q&A, Gingerbread Q&A
(p.s. the sub-forum specific search function is not working so I have to search through the entire forum for answers)
I looked in that other thread and I know atomic fusion is based on kf1.
Sent from a phone controlling a computer controlling a different phone
sepherian said:
I looked in that other thread and I know atomic fusion is based on kf1.
Sent from a phone controlling a computer controlling a different phone
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I believe that Cognition 5 and Atomic fusion are the only KF1 based roms. (I know Cog has Audience chip support, not sure if Atomic fusion those)
I've got a quick question and I hope this is the right place for it...
I was using Continuum for a long time and like it very much; I tried the CM7 when it first came up in the beta and it definitely seemed to compromise usability for the sake of having 2.3. Is there any benefit to going 2.3 right now, are the ROMs stable??
bobgodd said:
I've got a quick question and I hope this is the right place for it...
I was using Continuum for a long time and like it very much; I tried the CM7 when it first came up in the beta and it definitely seemed to compromise usability for the sake of having 2.3. Is there any benefit to going 2.3 right now, are the ROMs stable??
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All roms are stable. (all non-asop roms at least)
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bobgodd said:
I've got a quick question and I hope this is the right place for it...
I was using Continuum for a long time and like it very much; I tried the CM7 when it first came up in the beta and it definitely seemed to compromise usability for the sake of having 2.3. Is there any benefit to going 2.3 right now, are the ROMs stable??
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CM7 is pretty darn stable now also, specially if you use the rc1, it is VERY SMOOTH and pretty flawless, has great speed to, upload/download speeds are great, Everything works good now but some things may not be as good as other Samsung roms like battery life, but I have a spare battery and it is my daily driver. Cog5b3 is VERY stable, it is the leaked 2.3.3 MADE for our phones, it has GREAT sound quality using the phone but does not have the higher download/upload speeds (though they do not seem too bad), it is my backup phone and JUST WORKS GOOD. I have tried Continuum 2.3.3? and Apex 7.x and both are pretty stable but I would get some lag after a few days/week unless I was clearing cache and dalviche cache often, they are based off the i9000 roms so you will have better download/upload speeds but they don't use the audience chip. Either way they all perform better than froyo roms IMHO.
Sent from My KickAss Captivated CM7 OC'd 1.5Ghz/Undervolted
bobgodd said:
I've got a quick question and I hope this is the right place for it...
I was using Continuum for a long time and like it very much; I tried the CM7 when it first came up in the beta and it definitely seemed to compromise usability for the sake of having 2.3. Is there any benefit to going 2.3 right now, are the ROMs stable??
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I can speak for Cog 5 and its actually very stable and good Battery life. Keep in mind Its still in Beta so its not finished. Each rom has their pros and cons up to you to figure out what cons you can live with.
RockRatt said:
CM7 is pretty darn stable now also, specially if you use the rc1, it is VERY SMOOTH and pretty flawless, has great speed to, upload/download speeds are great, Everything works good now but some things may not be as good as other Samsung roms like battery life, but I have a spare battery and it is my daily driver. Cog5b3 is VERY stable, it is the leaked 2.3.3 MADE for our phones, it has GREAT sound quality using the phone but does not have the higher download/upload speeds (though they do not seem too bad), it is my backup phone and JUST WORKS GOOD. I have tried Continuum 2.3.3? and Apex 7.x and both are pretty stable but I would get some lag after a few days/week unless I was clearing cache and dalviche cache often, they are based off the i9000 roms so you will have better download/upload speeds but they don't use the audience chip. Either way they all perform better than froyo roms IMHO.
Sent from My KickAss Captivated CM7 OC'd 1.5Ghz/Undervolted
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Just to update a few of your things. Continuum is now based on JVQ (2.3.4) in v6.1. Apex is up to JVQ also in v8.1. eXistZ has his Talon kernel up to 0.4.1 with voodoo sound and color. I have heard that some saw lag, but that has all but been eliminated (in continuum and apex, at least).

noticible differences between 2.3.4 and 2.3.3?

So, I'm not sure exactly, but I would think that 2.3.4 would iron out a lot of the bugs that 2.3.3 had.
Is that so? or is it a minor upgrade?
Regards
Smith
That is what the consensus around the forum suggests; 2.3.4 is much more stable and smoother.
Sent from my Captivate
bennijai said:
That is what the consensus around the forum suggests; 2.3.4 is much more stable and smoother.
Sent from my Captivate
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Ok thank you. Now, the debate:
-Choose a ROM based off ATT GB
or
-Choose a 2.3.4 ROM...
Probably both at some point or another lol
smithisize said:
Ok thank you. Now, the debate:
-Choose a ROM based off ATT GB
or
-Choose a 2.3.4 ROM...
Probably both at some point or another lol
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I have tried 3 of the i9000 gingerbread roms that were made for our captivate and did notice the going from a i9000 2.3.3 to a 2.3.4 did make a difference in overall quality and just seemed better. I now have switched from the i9000 gingerbread 2.3.4 to the new kf1 gingerbread made for our cappy and I have to say I am impressed, it seems as smooth as the i9000 2.3.4 and now just needs some small tweaks to get cwm working and then some themes made for it. But right now it works pretty damn well right out of the box with AWESOME call quality. And the 3g is okay since that is all we can get with the kf1 modem on the stock kernel but it doesn't seems to be too bad as compared to the better speed of hsupa+
Another note is that flashing it right now via DGs 1click gingerbread is VERY EASY.
Another note though for you either way is that no matter what you are using Odin and flashing bootloaders (i9000 with its gingerbread bootloaders and the newest captivate flashes it own set of bootloaders that keep the same stock button controls for recovery and download modes). There are many more options as of right now as far as themes for the i9000 gingerbread roms. Good Luck
Sent from My KickAss Captivated CM7 OC'd 1.5Ghz/Undervolted
That was probably one of the best replies on this site. No smart comments, just facts. We need more people helping like that.
moore808 said:
That was probably one of the best replies on this site. No smart comments, just facts. We need more people helping like that.
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That's a crock. Lots of people help out like that. The problem is many more just blow through the door, start posting (often with crappy titles that inhibit the search function for others) without doing a search or even a scan of the Sticky titles and expect to get personalized service from what is basically a bunch of good people volunteering their time and expertise for free. That was very nice of Rock Ratt, but he's hardly unique in here. If people came in and exhibited even a slight amount of consideration for the forum instead of only caring about themselves (how many threads on 3e verification do we need?), this forum would run a lot smoother and members like me would have a lot less to say about it. Press the thanks button when appropriate and don't be afraid to donate to those who supply the bits and pieces that make our phones work better.

[Q] best rom G1?

hi...
last night i ported honeycomb 3.0 on my G1, and was hoping for a special experience, but as tonnes of things failed to work, flashed sense hero v1.5.
i have G1 qwertz, so the keyboard response is not perfect in the rom.
i have tried a number of other roms also. ginger yoshi was nice but had some problem with my network. froyo yoshi-i didnt hoo with that for long....
cm6 was okay...
i am loving the UI of sense rom though...
also, i had bought an extended 2850mAh battery on eBay but i dont think it's performing the way i expected 4-6 hrs at max on these roms
any suggestions??
thanks in advance...
btw, my 1st Qn.....
lol even though it's your first question... there are over 100 posts of people asking the same question... and the same answer applies... depends on the flasher (you)
now you say you like sense roms, only downfall is NO sense rom, i repeat NOOOO sense rom for the G1 has a working camcorder or bluetooth... NONE!!!! lol
k now that i got that out the way...
my suggestions...
1st. my rom of coarse SenseLX (great rom and the team and i keep it up to date and add features here and there for people in need, all you have to do is ask...)
2nd.. gingerbread with sense thisrom is still in development but omg it is amazing!!! trust me just try it you will be impressed... i haven't tested it in a while because i been busy keeping my rom updated but last time i tried it my mind was blown!!!! simply amazing for a G1 lol
3rd... Magic Sense this rom is by namit1994, who was a great help in the development of my SenseLX rom, he recently ported this rom for the G1 and has been busy working on it so you should be impressed with this also if you like sense
besides those 3.. you just have to read around the forums and kinda figure out what you like most... there many varieties of sense roms for the G1, people have worked very hard on these roms so they would appreciate a simple click of the thanks button! lol as would I but yeah so good luck with your rom hunt and dont forget to thank the developers for all there hard work!!
thnx a lot
will try sense lx 1st...
wanted a gingerbread only, basically...
thnx again!!!
You can also try SuperAosp 6.4, it had been doing good for me and I am happy with it.
I'm using Froyo by Laszlo for about 5 months, that's a great and stable rom.
Cyanogen is good
Just flashed Cyanogen 7.1. It's nice, true.
is cm 7 stable??? heard it's not yet...
flashed ginger yoshi(again)...it's nice and speedy...i have problems at times regarding my network(receiving messages)...can that be because of the radio(2.22.28.25) atm...
i tried the sense roms,but they take up some amount of space making the device a wee bit slow for me cos ds looked decent though
So, CM-best?
Hi guys and girls,
Im beginner around here, so be patient with me.
So, ok, when i was reading the first reply, i was like, yes, sence is nice. Have tried some Hero rom on my G1, that was on an sdcard that i got with the phone. Putted it using rom manager on it. But then somehow i felt that those eye candy things are less important for me then nice functionality of the system.
So as i see CM is most complete and most popular rom that should be quite good. Or one of the best i guess.
But i what i am wondering. I have now CM6 on my G1. And sometimes its kind of a littlebit slow you know. So one question i have, would an earlier version CM5 for example be some kind of faster? Althou i have read on wikipedia android page that "2.2 (Froyo) introduced speed improvements with JIT optimization and the Chrome V8 JavaScript engine". And that CM6 is based on 2.2. So it kind of not supposed to be slower.
Basicly Microsoft Exchange support would be nice to have for me. Because im IT pro and it was nice expirience to have both, personal and work email on my last phone i used (nokia 5800). As i see CM5 can do that. Since exchange support is since version 2.0/2.1 as i see on internet. But then would CM5 be any faster then CM6? And is CM7 slower?
Also bluetooth and camera support is pretty nice to have. So i would rather go with CM i think then, then with SenceLX. Althou its nice to have something like that. Let's imagine if i didnt need bluetooth and camera, then i can use it i guess.
Thanks in advance,
MVG,
Nikolai
edit: or is it time to get a faster phone? Because i actually just got the G1. Because i havent found anything better with full keyboard. And BB 8520 has no GPS, and no auto focus, and no Android. So i took G1. But i guess it maybe can be better with something faster. Tell me what do you think.
sense lx looks wow!!!! pretty good...but i couldnt have it running for me as a daily use rom....i was on eclair,htc clay's super bad for almost 7 months and loved it...also tried a few froyo's which were nice....
didnt fancy cm's much....
yoshi is really good...ginger yoshi ofcourse better than froyo yoshi...
also, cos ds gingerbread is worth a try!!!
mind u, for all the gingerbreads u need to have the latest radio and spl(2.22.28.25 or 2.22.27.08 with 1.33.0013)...
if you want smoothness and functionality i would suggest a stable froyo rom, but update your radio to 2708/2825 for the extra 15mb ram hack adds some speed to the device... my personal favorite was froyo by laszlo with ezbifftest 2708 kernel but it hasn't been updated in so long so im sure there's more stable froyo roms available... i've just been busy keeping senselx up to date and currently me and maximo are building a froyo rom from source so once thats at a stable point i will reccomend it and would love some testers and opinions
THAT'S LOVELY...WOULD LOVE TO TRY THE FROYO, STABLE OFCOURSE!!!!
currently hooked to gingeryoshi
I like Ginger Yoshi also.
I see here is great info on topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079194

should I update to 2.3.5 now?

Is there a point in updating my I9000 to 2.3.5 from 2.3.3 considering ICS for I9000 might be out in the near future?
I'd recommend upgrading to 2.3.5 because I found it to be a lot snappier. Besides, I don't think a stable, fully-functional ICS ROM for i9000 is coming out that soon anyway
i would recomend it too, im curently on a ics port though
but it will take the devs a good while to make a fully functional rom, as for samsungs developers im not even sure if they plan to make ics compatible with our old galaxies
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
How long do you think it will take the devs to develop a staple working ics port?
well i upgraded from XWJVH 2.3.3 to XXJVT 2.3.5 and tbh i dont see that much of an improvement (if at all), the phone seems more laggy to me (especially on web browsing as i said in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354323)
im seriously thinking of going back to 2.3.3 (if it was not for losing all the apps and definitions i have on it i would have done it already.)
DarknessWarrior said:
well i upgraded from XWJVH 2.3.3 to XXJVT 2.3.5 and tbh i dont see that much of an improvement (if at all), the phone seems more laggy to me (especially on web browsing as i said in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354323)
im seriously thinking of going back to 2.3.3 (if it was not for losing all the apps and definitions i have on it i would have done it already.)
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That's what I thought, if 2.3.5 is such a minor improvement over 2.3.3, then there's really no point. I am happy to use 2.3.3 for the next few months and wait for the ICS.
install jvt and root it with semaphore 1.8.2, install simplicity rom, and convert to ext 4...bet youll think its much more snappy.
BTW simplicity appears very stock looking. hence the name.
thats the thing, idk about OP but atleast i do want to stick to stock as much as i can. (only with root and a couple other things)
i've tried CM7.1 and a lot of other ROMs (haven't tried simplicity, so i dont really have an opinion about it) and i really dont like it, i like the stock feel.
i dont want to get stuff just to beat quadrant's records, i want something (as much as possible) bug-free that i can rely on, not something that i have to be patching and fixing all the freaking time, where the alarm doesnt go off when it should, that can't run some apps, or do videocalls (CM7.1 i'm looking at you), or the icons are plain freaking ugly and different sized...
just my 2 cents, i hope i dont hurt anyone's feeling with this
EDIT: i also hate to lose all the crap and having to install/configure everything again (main reason i dont format my computer that often too), thats why i just want a stable, fast ROM/Kernel that i dont have to patch/fix/reflash/etc for months or even years (or until ICS is released to SGS ).
investmenttechnology said:
How long do you think it will take the devs to develop a staple working ics port?
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My personal opinion?
Its really hard to tell, they have come very far, suprisingly fast with a new release almost every night. this devs are fenomenal!
i dont think it will take them to much time to get to beta stadium instead of alpha, but i'm an outsider, no real contact with the developers, but if they work out the rest of the problems in the same pace they have done so far it wont take too long to see a good beta build
Waiting hopefully for a new baby to be born!
Off-topic, sorry

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