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which is better to install to?
Makes no difference, especially if you got a higher class SD.
There are games and apps that NEED to be installed on the phone memory (they will notify you during the instalation), but EVERYTHING else can be installed on the SD.
I got over 500 apps and games installed and 450+ of them are on the SD. I haven't had a single problem and the phone is as fast as anyone's.
i guess the only problem is if you remove the card then u can use anything
Don't remove the card then . Get an eight or even better - 16GB card and enjoy yourself.
I have been running CM7 off of my SD card for several weeks now, and it has been working very smoothly -- virtually no problems.
Today I installed the updated Barnes & Noble Nook app. It worked fine the first couple of times, but now every time I try to launch it I get the message:
"The application has stopped unexpectedly, please try again."
Then I am given the option to force close or report. The problem is that this is now happening with the majority of my apps. They are refusing to open. When I try to use any of my browsers, they open and shut in the blink of an eye.
The only two apps that appear to be working OK are Market and YouTube.
I tried rebooting, but that didn't fix anything.
Also, my Nook is showing a very low wifi signal, while at the same time my iPod Touch shows a strong signal.
Anybody have any ideas on how I can clear this all up? Is there any troubleshooting app I can run? Thanks.
Update: Market doesn't work now either. I can open it up, but it crashes when I try to download anything.
Dunno if it would cause this... but did you recently modify your build.prop file to install Netflix? If so, restore the original file, reboot, and see if it helps.
It could be oxidation on the microSD card connectors...
I have been messing around with Android on SD for some time, and I don't know what kind of microSD you are using but some of mine require periodic cleaning of the card edge connectors.
Just yesterday, one card I had started with the FCs and crashes and after cleaning the edge connectors it is working fine again.
I dunno, but that is what works for me...
RageAgain said:
It could be oxidation on the microSD card connectors...
I have been messing around with Android on SD for some time, and I don't know what kind of microSD you are using but some of mine require periodic cleaning of the card edge connectors.
Just yesterday, one card I had started with the FCs and crashes and after cleaning the edge connectors it is working fine again.
I dunno, but that is what works for me...
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Thanks for your suggestion. I took the card out and cleaned the contacts, but everything is still acting flaky. I tried to uninstall the nook app, which is the last thing I installed before everything started going haywire, but it force closes and won't let me uninstall it.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to wipe my sd card clean and reinstall CM7 all over again if somebody can't come up with a solution.
I have the market Nook app installed here on the 2.6.32 Beta 3.1, no problems..
khaytsus said:
I have the market Nook app installed here on the 2.6.32 Beta 3.1, no problems..
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Yeah, I really don't think it's the nook app that's causing all these problems, but what is? CM7 was working beautifully with no problems until today. Now, everything is force closing on me.
Probably somewhere down the line, corrupted SD card. Not all CM7/SD card installs play well, especially if you're using a Class 6/10 card as they have piss poor random small block writes. Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
robot8 said:
Probably somewhere down the line, corrupted SD card. Not all CM7/SD card installs play well, especially if you're using a Class 6/10 card as they have piss poor random small block writes. Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
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Wow, that's pretty amazing. Thanks. I am using a Class 6 card, thinking that it would be better. Who knew?
Do you have Bluetooth turned on? My FCs stopped when I turned it off.
I was having a problem with a lot of force closes as well and it ended up being the SD card. Started off with a Transcend Class 6. Force closes all the time. Then tried a Sandisk Class 4. Runs smooth. The difference was night and day.
kwyrt said:
I was having a problem with a lot of force closes as well and it ended up being the SD card. Started off with a Transcend Class 6. Force closes all the time. Then tried a Sandisk Class 4. Runs smooth. The difference was night and day.
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That's exactly what I'm using -- a Transcend Class 6. I will have to buy a Sandisk Class 4. Thanks for the tip!
scosgt said:
Do you have Bluetooth turned on? My FCs stopped when I turned it off.
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I'll have to give that a try. Thanks.
How could this be?
I have two Transcend 8GB Class 6 SD cards. On one of them I have froyo, on the other is CM7.
Yesterday, the CM7 card started going wacky, locking up or force closing practically every application I tried. I rebooted, but that didn't help.
Well, I turned my Nook off, took out the CM7 card and popped in the froyo card. I then powered up. Now the froyo card is acting the same way as the CM7 card did.
How could this be? Is this just a coincidence, or is something internally in the Nook causing this? I mean, before yesterday, both cards were working fine, and then one day they both go bad? Hmmmmm?
cameraz said:
I have two Transcend 8GB Class 6 SD cards. On one of them I have froyo, on the other is CM7.
Yesterday, the CM7 card started going wacky, locking up or force closing practically every application I tried. I rebooted, but that didn't help.
Well, I turned my Nook off, took out the CM7 card and popped in the froyo card. I then powered up. Now the froyo card is acting the same way as the CM7 card did.
How could this be? Is this just a coincidence, or is something internally in the Nook causing this? I mean, before yesterday, both cards were working fine, and then one day they both go bad? Hmmmmm?
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I at one point actually got something inside my microSD card slot, but I didn't know it until it got on my microSD card and came out...
Maybe the connectors inside your Nook need cleaning...
I am gonna scrape up some change and buy a 4GB CL4 card from the 'shack' and see how CM7 likes it...
On a side note, does anyone have a life expectancy for microSD cards that have Android run off of them?
Not to knock the SD, but not goto eMMC, then you wouldn't have to worry about bad SD card connections. There are plenty ways to go back to stock. I could see using SD for a beta test, of course that's just my opinion.
Ronin3178 said:
Not to knock the SD, but not goto eMMC, then you wouldn't have to worry about bad SD card connections. There are plenty ways to go back to stock. I could see using SD for a beta test, of course that's just my opinion.
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Isn't it hard as hell to get things put on the eMMC now?
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I Am Marino said:
Isn't it hard as hell to get things put on the eMMC now?
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Well, I got my nook back in March, didn't have any problems then. And haven't played with a newer one, mine was simple.
Hi there, I recently installed CM7 onto my SD card and was wondering if the time it takes to fully boot up is normal? My rough counting indicates that it takes approximately 20 seconds from when I press the power button to get to the CM7 splash screen, then another 30 seconds to get to my "desktop". I am using a Sanddisk 8gb class 4 card. The OS when running seems pretty quick and applications seem responsive. My Nook is a refurbished unit.
thx.
That's about right. It's not much different on eMMC.
Rodney
Sounds about the norm here too.
Sounds way fast to me actually. I'm pretty certain that mine takes quite a bit more time than that to boot, the CM7 splash screen is up forever.
i just switched from emmc to flash card and its about the same for both...whats funny is my wireless runs better off the flash card...
sure would love to know what benefits folks still see worth the hassle of booting from SD.
Not being an ass....i just really dont understand it.
TainT said:
sure would love to know what benefits folks still see worth the hassle of booting from SD.
Not being an ass....i just really dont understand it.
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Since performance is almost the same, if you need warranty work you can just pop the card out and send it in to B&N, but if your device no longer boots or has some other major problem and you send it in and they see a custom ROM on it, they will not give you warranty coverage.
At least that's ONE reason...
TainT said:
sure would love to know what benefits folks still see worth the hassle of booting from SD.
Not being an ass....i just really dont understand it.
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Personally I liked the way the stock B&N software worked for reading books better than the Nook app. So I can see wanting the flexibility of being able to use the stock Nook when I was reading a book, then being able to pop in an SD card and use it like a tablet when I wanted to do other things.
Seems like kind of a pain though.
darien87 said:
Personally I liked the way the stock B&N software worked for reading books better than the Nook app. So I can see wanting the flexibility of being able to use the stock Nook when I was reading a book, then being able to pop in an SD card and use it like a tablet when I wanted to do other things.
Seems like kind of a pain though.
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Agreed I actually wanted to use some of the BN features, books reading is better and reading of magazines in color rocks. It functions very as it was originally intended to be a "reader". But I like to be able to use it as a tablet when I want.
I have only run from SD card but I played with my son's that is flashed to eMMC and build for build, I can't tell any difference so I just stick with SD card.
Timed mine...
hokudog said:
Hi there, I recently installed CM7 onto my SD card and was wondering if the time it takes to fully boot up is normal? My rough counting indicates that it takes approximately 20 seconds from when I press the power button to get to the CM7 splash screen, then another 30 seconds to get to my "desktop". I am using a Sanddisk 8gb class 4 card. The OS when running seems pretty quick and applications seem responsive. My Nook is a refurbished unit.
thx.
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From power button push to when the CM7 rotating circle is centered on screen was 39 seconds. Desktop appeared at 1:03. A few more seconds for everything to 'settle' (fancy widget gets its skin, superuser ok's nook tweaks, etc).
On a new Sandisk 16gb class 4.
So far I think CM7 on SD would be my choice for running Android. Reviews are positive about it, applicable solution for noob like me.
I've a chance to run both CM7 off uSD and eMMC.
Here's my take:
+ Boot off uSD
1. simpler procedure (good)
2. avoid "void warranty" (good)
3. want the original NOOKcolor = remove the uSD, want fancy CM7 = insert uSD, want fancy Honeycomb = insert uSD, want fancy bla bla bla = insert usD
4. seems slower than the eMMC version
5. if having Kingston or Transcend (even with class 6), there are too many FC's errors
+ Root and run from eMMC
1. have to do more procedure (such format /data / system /cache)
2. B&N doesn't like it if rooted. There are ways to restore stock ROM those, again, more steps
3. Want original NC? do a restore procedure. Want to try Honeycomb? repeat installing procedure, ....
4. Seems faster
5. Virtually eliminate all FC's errors unless it's a real software bug.
6. Still some issues, at least in my case such Gallery doesn't work if no external uSD (FAT32) plugged in. Why? Why requires an external card? Turn ON USB storage has to go through more steps, my case, I have to unmount the eMMC's /media storage first then plug the usb cable in, then mount the /media for it to work connecting PC.
Best of both worlds
Very much a noob here. I bought my nook as an early retirement present. I originally had a Velocity Cruz but wanted to do more with it than it was capable of. Started reading threads on this site and BN site and after a week or two decided to make a dual bootable sd card running CM7. Everything went smooth but instead of the 15 min to create this card like I read on posts here it took me 4 to 5 hrs. Ok so I had a few issues!!!!! Loved it for the next couple of weeks; then while checking things out one night after I officially retired I was in Rom manager. Big MISTAKE! Saw there was an update to the CM7 I was using. Thought ok I'll update and low and behold I ended up updating internally not to the SD card. It was really nice rooted internally but after a week I decided to put stock operating system back on. Created that bootable card and went back to stock. Bought a 16 gb card made a new dual boot card with the same OS that I had inadvertantly rooted internally too. For all of you techies out there it was a lot quicker this time. I'm one happy camper now. I have Aldiko reader on the card and Calibre on my computer with plugins for taking drm off my books so husband and I can both read them. If I can do all this anyone can. I feel I have the best of both worlds now.
votinh said:
+ Boot off uSD
3. want the original NOOKcolor = remove the uSD, want fancy CM7 = insert uSD,
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Depending on the ROM, you shouldn't need to remove the uSD to load to stock. For example, with CM7, you should be able to just hold N while it's booting and it will go to a boot menu, from which you can choose stock/recovery/sd/etc. Or, if that doesn't work, you can usually use a different uboot file.
Creating the SD card to run CM7 was very easy with all the how-to's up here and around the net. The performance is close to the same as internal memory. The best part is I have my whole OS in a tiny little SD card, which I can remove for security reasons or a lost or damaged Nook. Just pop it into any Nook and away you go.
TainT said:
sure would love to know what benefits folks still see worth the hassle of booting from SD.
Not being an ass....i just really dont understand it.
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Warranty issues for one - but mostly there's no speed difference between SD and EMMC. It's actually *less* hassle - because you can fark around with an SD card all you want and *never* risk bricking your NC. The SD card sits in there and is no different in speed or boot up process - it just boots and runs.
I'm running racks' dual boot phiremod/hc and boot for phiremod seems slightly faster than hc. Maybe a few seconds faster than the 50 seconds it takes you, but seems like you're in the ball park.
Howdy,
I have a Nook Color running 7.1.0 from the emmc. Everything seems to be humming along nicely.
However, if I have to reboot for any reason, it will not recognize my sd card until I remove the card and reinsert it. Then it will mount itself and work as usual, sometimes it takes several tries to succeed. The main sd card in question is a 16gb Sandisk class 4, but the same behavior happens regardless of which sd card I try.
This is a small nuisance, but it is going to become a larger problem when I start using my Otterbox case.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Sliker said:
Howdy,
I have a Nook Color running 7.1.0 from the emmc. Everything seems to be humming along nicely.
However, if I have to reboot for any reason, it will not recognize my sd card until I remove the card and reinsert it. Then it will mount itself and work as usual, sometimes it takes several tries to succeed. The main sd card in question is a 16gb Sandisk class 4, but the same behavior happens regardless of which sd card I try.
This is a small nuisance, but it is going to become a larger problem when I start using my Otterbox case.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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I responded to your post in the other forum but basically you may have a failing card slot.
I have done it! took me a while but I brought it. its a PNY 32gb and of course I had to hard reset the phone so it can partition it correctly but i didn't mind. the speed is great.
I only had one issue, don't do a battery pull for any reason. I did one for a sim card swap and it damaged the way it interacts with the phone took multiple hard resets to get the card to become recognized again.
I believe our devices since its so hard to swap or upgrade memory we should have been had it. I am thankful that its easy on the Hd7. the class 4 16gb card was fine I thought until i put the 32gb class ten in, apps lauch faster and everything seems to have a pep to it. even downloading things.
I did the same a few months ago everything is working perfect
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I have been trying to fill it up and I only got it down to about 20gb I put whole discography for alot a few artist. and i downloaded so many apps it has the alphabet like the contacts lol. I want to put some movies on there but it takes longer
What's the part number for the mem card.
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explisiv said:
I have done it! took me a while but I brought it. its a PNY 32gb and of course I had to hard reset the phone so it can partition it correctly but i didn't mind. the speed is great.
I only had one issue, don't do a battery pull for any reason. I did one for a sim card swap and it damaged the way it interacts with the phone took multiple hard resets to get the card to become recognized again.
I believe our devices since its so hard to swap or upgrade memory we should have been had it. I am thankful that its easy on the Hd7. the class 4 16gb card was fine I thought until i put the 32gb class ten in, apps lauch faster and everything seems to have a pep to it. even downloading things.
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Thats cool, I know at the beginning of the thread, someone said it may draw too much power and not work, but since you are having no issues, I may be trying this!
All I can say is: don't do it! This card is f**king slow. Sure, if you have passed the acces time everything is working. But the access time feels like half a second!
I have discovered following issues while using a PNY 32 GB Class 10 mircoSD card:
Camera App crash while saving picture
Video capture stuttering in the first second, regardless of quality
Surpreme Shortcuts crash while opening tile on start screen
Everything is loading like there's a Class 4 card in the phone because of high access time
Internet Sharing bug: can't turn off sharing, because phone disconnects from internet but app won't recognize it and thinks it is still connected
Reboot phone 3 times a day because apps that crash on launch won't start again in the same session
i have no problem using this Sandisk 32gb from www.expansys.com
just put on the search box this reference > 219397 the card apears , maybe theres a expansys store in your country
all the best
32GB Samsung Class 10 works well !
Hi,
I've been using a Sandisk 32GB Class 4 in my HD7 for almost one year (not so fast card, top 1.5MB/s in WP Bench), and during last December I was getting reboots and reboots...
So I decided to give a try to another Sandisk microSD card, bug 16GB, still Class 4.
It didn't work at all (even though I formated it with Windows, FAT32). The phone would recognize it once every 5 reboots...
So I put back the 32GB one, formatted with the Phone (vol+ + vol- + power), then it worked, and I could even restore my last backup (as it was the same microSD card).
But 3 days ago, I got some reboots when receiving SMS, I was so fed up that I bought a Samsung 32GB Class 10, after seeing this thread, to give a try.
So I formatted it with SDFormatter, put it in my HD7 last night, and it works really well !!
I did some benchs on my PC with Atto before putting it in my phone, it was running at 10-15MB/s, reading and writing, for 128 or 256KB blocks and more (didn't took a screenshot sorry).
And now in WP Bench the card speed is pretty stable and is running at 8 to 10MB/s, this time, I took a screenshot :
View attachment 873251
So here it is, Samsung 32GB Class 10 works really well, apps load fast, apps install fast, here are some references :
- where I bought it (France) : PC-Look.com (ref: MB-MSBGA/EU)
- where I saw it first : Amazon.fr (MB-MSBGA/EU)
- one that seems to be the same on Amazon.com (MB-MSBGA/US)
does the PNY reall y work well?
its running under which bootlaoder, i heard bootloader needs to recognise the card first.
class 2 can work fine. I have tried 32gb sandisk class 2 and had no problems at all, and the same speed as the stock card.
Thank you for this, i'm using now the same card as you and it works great
something good.
maxniper said:
Thank you for this, i'm using now the same card as you and it works great
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regardless of what people say the hd7 was a very classy device. and the 32gb option and upgrade option. unlike its other wp7 brothers made it better. I just brought a second one since my screen cracked. just took my 32gb chip with me lol.
I welcome you all to the world of 32g's. I also swapped a digitizer, and mother board alot of trial and error. let me know if you have questions.
Magpir said:
does the PNY reall y work well?
its running under which bootlaoder, i heard bootloader needs to recognise the card first.
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I have used my 32g under all bootlloaders. even the dreaded 5.11 but needless to say. it is supported.
5ft24 said:
Thats cool, I know at the beginning of the thread, someone said it may draw too much power and not work, but since you are having no issues, I may be trying this!
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it has been working great still. extra space is a plus.
Mr_nUUb said:
All I can say is: don't do it! This card is f**king slow. Sure, if you have passed the acces time everything is working. But the access time feels like half a second!
I have discovered following issues while using a PNY 32 GB Class 10 mircoSD card:
Camera App crash while saving picture
Video capture stuttering in the first second, regardless of quality
Surpreme Shortcuts crash while opening tile on start screen
Everything is loading like there's a Class 4 card in the phone because of high access time
Internet Sharing bug: can't turn off sharing, because phone disconnects from internet but app won't recognize it and thinks it is still connected
Reboot phone 3 times a day because apps that crash on launch won't start again in the same session
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you may wanna reflash the stock rom. after your 32gb upgrade. and I been using a europeon rom. the second phone (hd7) i brought due to a cracked screen. isnt getting anywhere as good of signal under tmo stock rom. so i will be flashing tonight!
Miguel12345 said:
Hi,
I've been using a Sandisk 32GB Class 4 in my HD7 for almost one year (not so fast card, top 1.5MB/s in WP Bench), and during last December I was getting reboots and reboots...
So I decided to give a try to another Sandisk microSD card, bug 16GB, still Class 4.
It didn't work at all (even though I formated it with Windows, FAT32). The phone would recognize it once every 5 reboots...
So I put back the 32GB one, formatted with the Phone (vol+ + vol- + power), then it worked, and I could even restore my last backup (as it was the same microSD card).
But 3 days ago, I got some reboots when receiving SMS, I was so fed up that I bought a Samsung 32GB Class 10, after seeing this thread, to give a try.
So I formatted it with SDFormatter, put it in my HD7 last night, and it works really well !!
I did some benchs on my PC with Atto before putting it in my phone, it was running at 10-15MB/s, reading and writing, for 128 or 256KB blocks and more (didn't took a screenshot sorry).
And now in WP Bench the card speed is pretty stable and is running at 8 to 10MB/s, this time, I took a screenshot :
View attachment 873251
So here it is, Samsung 32GB Class 10 works really well, apps load fast, apps install fast, here are some references :
- where I bought it (France) : PC-Look.com (ref: MB-MSBGA/EU)
- where I saw it first : Amazon.fr (MB-MSBGA/EU)
- one that seems to be the same on Amazon.com (MB-MSBGA/US)
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Hello,
I have the same sd Samsung 32GB Class 10 as you, bootloader 3.1 and Deepshining 7.6 but the phone now after some time reboots and stay at bootlogo forever and after a hard reset everything is ok again during 3 or 4 days and then puff again.
can you tell me what bootloader and Rom you use?
HD7
16Gb is enough,
Thanks works fine, 1 prob
Thanks got a Samsung 32GB Class 10 Micro SDHC Extreme Speed Cardhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Class-Micro-Extreme-Speed/dp/B00569J5CY
works fine seams to boot faster as well as load app faster, even live tiles seam more responsive flicking up and down.
Just cant recover the back up I made of my 16gb class 4. works fine back to 16
any idea? Cheers.
Miguel12345 said:
Hi,
I've been using a Sandisk 32GB Class 4 in my HD7 for almost one year (not so fast card, top 1.5MB/s in WP Bench), and during last December I was getting reboots and reboots...
So I decided to give a try to another Sandisk microSD card, bug 16GB, still Class 4.
It didn't work at all (even though I formated it with Windows, FAT32). The phone would recognize it once every 5 reboots...
So I put back the 32GB one, formatted with the Phone (vol+ + vol- + power), then it worked, and I could even restore my last backup (as it was the same microSD card).
But 3 days ago, I got some reboots when receiving SMS, I was so fed up that I bought a Samsung 32GB Class 10, after seeing this thread, to give a try.
So I formatted it with SDFormatter, put it in my HD7 last night, and it works really well !!
I did some benchs on my PC with Atto before putting it in my phone, it was running at 10-15MB/s, reading and writing, for 128 or 256KB blocks and more (didn't took a screenshot sorry).
And now in WP Bench the card speed is pretty stable and is running at 8 to 10MB/s, this time, I took a screenshot :
View attachment 873251
So here it is, Samsung 32GB Class 10 works really well, apps load fast, apps install fast, here are some references :
- where I bought it (France) : PC-Look.com (ref: MB-MSBGA/EU)
- where I saw it first : Amazon.fr (MB-MSBGA/EU)
- one that seems to be the same on Amazon.com (MB-MSBGA/US)
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Miguel12345 said:
Hi,
I've been using a Sandisk 32GB Class 4 in my HD7 for almost one year (not so fast card, top 1.5MB/s in WP Bench), and during last December I was getting reboots and reboots...
So I decided to give a try to another Sandisk microSD card, bug 16GB, still Class 4.
It didn't work at all (even though I formated it with Windows, FAT32). The phone would recognize it once every 5 reboots...
So I put back the 32GB one, formatted with the Phone (vol+ + vol- + power), then it worked, and I could even restore my last backup (as it was the same microSD card).
But 3 days ago, I got some reboots when receiving SMS, I was so fed up that I bought a Samsung 32GB Class 10, after seeing this thread, to give a try.
So I formatted it with SDFormatter, put it in my HD7 last night, and it works really well !!
I did some benchs on my PC with Atto before putting it in my phone, it was running at 10-15MB/s, reading and writing, for 128 or 256KB blocks and more (didn't took a screenshot sorry).
And now in WP Bench the card speed is pretty stable and is running at 8 to 10MB/s, this time, I took a screenshot :
View attachment 873251
So here it is, Samsung 32GB Class 10 works really well, apps load fast, apps install fast, here are some references :
- where I bought it (France) : PC-Look.com (ref: MB-MSBGA/EU)
- where I saw it first : Amazon.fr (MB-MSBGA/EU)
- one that seems to be the same on Amazon.com (MB-MSBGA/US)
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Did you do everything normally?
I'll give it a try!!!
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