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[Q] Flash custom rom without custom recovery? possible?

Hi!
I've succesfully rootet my SGS. testet wtih terminal, and i got the # sign.
Also, I have suoer users installed, and granted access to ROM manager, e.g.
Now, I would like to flash darky's custom ROM. And usually, i would boot into custom recovery menu and wipe, and apply zip from sd. (this was on my HTC).
Well, this is causing me some problems. I would rather not use Odin, as it seem a bit unsafe but I installed ROM manager, and flashed Clockwork Mod recovery. Now, when I reboot into custom recovery I get the stock android recovery, though ROM manager, says my current version of clowckwork mod is installed, and all went succesfull.
Now, my question is. Can i rename the zip file update.zip and flash with the stock android recovery anyway?

When you flash clockwork i think it just puts a .zip file on the sd card so youbshould try flashing the custom recovery through stock recovery. If not then ODIN is the way to go which can be perfectly safe if done properly.
*You have to select reinstall packages i think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734166
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Tuptup said:
When you flash clockwork i think it just puts a .zip file on the sd card so youbshould try flashing the custom recovery through stock recovery. If not then ODIN is the way to go which can be perfectly safe if done properly.
*You have to select reinstall packages i think.
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Thanks
I never get into clockwork mod, so I guess I dont get the option to reinstall packages... The only option I have beside wiping and reboot is to apply update.zip from sdcard in android recovery. But I don't think there is any update.zip on my sdcard. not last i checked at least. Guess Ill have to go with Odin then :/

Usually the option to reinstall packages is on stock recovery. I might be wrong but odin is easy to do if you get the right firmware for your phone. Sorry i ciuldnt help more.
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Tuptup said:
Usually the option to reinstall packages is on stock recovery. I might be wrong but odin is easy to do if you get the right firmware for your phone. Sorry i ciuldnt help more.
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Thanks again. I get wiser by the hour
I think im on android recovery (3e) as I recall, perhaps they removed it
I was wandering. I found the clockworkmod.zip /recovery_update.zip on the sd-card. if I move this to root of sdcard and rename to update.zip, can I then flash it via android recovery with the "apply update.zip from sdcard" function, or is this not for the purpose?

That might work, you may aswell try butif not try looking at the url i posted and see if it helps. If not then im sorry for wasting your time :S
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Tuptup said:
That might work, you may aswell try butif not try looking at the url i posted and see if it helps. If not then im sorry for wasting your time :S
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thanks, but i think Im caught in between... i cant choose reinstall packages, and I need to get back to stock kernel...
got download mode to work now, and think I know what to do from here. thanks for the link and response

Finally - reverted back to stock android recovery 2e and flash clockworkmod recovery.... but - a new problem... when in clockworkmod, i need to choose zip from sd card, when i go into this, and choose external sd, it says no files
what to do? the files are there, when I put in the sd card in the PC the files are there...

Not entirely sure but i think you're meant to put the .zip on the internal sd. If not then maybe the sd card is not fat32 format. This is only speculation :S
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[Q] Problem trying to flash a custom rom onto a galaxy s on orange uk - recovery mode

I've downloaded ROM manager and clicked on 'flash clockwork recovery'. this placed a 'update.zip' onto my phone. I downloaded a custom ROM and placed this zip in the same place. in ROM manager i choose install from sd card, locate the custom rom and select it. i reboot into clockwork recovery mode and i get the 'android system recovery mode' The options at the top are in blue. i believe this is wrong?
I'm led to believe i should click on 'apply sdcard:update.zip' but when i do i get
E:failed to verify whole-file signature
E:signature verification failed
Install aborted
I'm using a samsung galaxy s with the standard orange rom.
Any ideas?

U need to root your device first... flash a kernel like speedmod and it'll rot ur device after this u can install ur custom rom. remember while flashing via odin repartition should be unchecked

You would root and then just need to flash update.zip, dont place rom anywhere near it. I would delete your current update.zip and go through process (minus rom) again.
Alternatively and easier, is what ^^ he said.
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I've already rooted my phone.
Dont i need to put the downloaded mod on my sdcard to install it? :/
Rom manager puts the update.zip file there but when i try to run it it fails :/

Yep place the rom into sdcard/
Sometimes in stock recovery, you may have to choose flash update.zip twice to install cwm
However
Mate, if you can use odin, just flash a pre rooted kernel with cwm installed. Should take about 5 mins to download and flash. Chainfire would probably be my recommendation.
Make sure you read kernel flashing instructions before you start.
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woolf clubs said:
Yep place the rom into sdcard/
Sometimes in stock recovery, you may have to choose flash update.zip twice to install cwm
However
Mate, if you can use odin, just flash a pre rooted kernel with cwm installed. Should take about 5 mins to download and flash. Chainfire would probably be my recommendation.
Make sure you read kernel flashing instructions before you start.
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When i hit the flash update zip i get the verification error :/
Ive tried it a few times so..
Okay i have odin and a kernel.
Only thing is i need to get to get my phone to download mode to apply the kernel through odin?
And my phone wont go into this mode :/ or recovery mode

How did you root?
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I used superoneclick.
bad move?

Not at all, just curious. Can you not force download mode via adb? (havent needed to use it myself, so can't advise further)
i would suggest you apply the 3 button combo fix though before proceeding. If you can get into dl mode, its nigh impossible to brick, if not, then its all too easy.....
Dont rush mate, have a good search and read-up first.
Hope I've helped some.
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woolf clubs said:
Not at all, just curious. Can you not force download mode via adb? (havent needed to use it myself, so can't advise further)
i would suggest you apply the 3 button combo fix though before proceeding. If you can get into dl mode, its nigh impossible to brick, if not, then its all too easy.....
Dont rush mate, have a good search and read-up first.
Hope I've helped some.
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I'll take a look at the 3 button combo fix and the adb method.
Thanks for all your help

No worries. Cwm method will only work with 2e recovery - if you have 3e, then you will need dl mode odin and kernel.
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[Q] 3 Button Fix HELP

Ok so I started with a KB2 on 2.2 I flashed it back to 2.1 JF6 with Odin and I ordered a JIG which helped me get out of a brick situation. I installed CWM and I got into recovery but the screen does not say anything about installing from ZIP It just has the 4 choices reset, reinstall and so on...
There is so much information out there it is hard to know what to do. I would like to start flashing ROMs but I think I missed a step or something so before I go any further I have tried all the button combos and I cannot get into recovery and the times that I did before said nothing about installing anything from a zip.
PLEASE ADVISE
Aloha..MJ

Sounds like 3e recovery. You will need to bypass signature verification...
You might be better off just flashing a different kernel to get cwm and flash from there..
Use Odin or heimdall to flash a different kernel that has cwm
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sounds like he is seeing the stock recovery. if he is indeed on 2.1, then its 2e recovery. reinstall packages, the phone will reboot into recovery, then reinstall packages again, you will be kicked over to CWM

woops. I looked over the part that said he flashed jf6. Excuse me. Sorry
Yes reinstall twice, like he said
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Thanks PirateGhost
Thanks alot man that did the trick I reinstalled twice and I was kicked right into CWM and flashed CM7 and everything is working fine

Can't get Clockwork Recovery flashed on my T959

Ok, I have ROM Manager premium installed, rooted, etc. I'm running 2.2 version UVKB5 on my T Mobile Samsung Vibrant.
I've selected the option to Flash ClockworkMod Recovery for the "Samsung Vibrant" and it won't boot to CWR. If I select reintall packages, it fails every time.
Help!

did you install both the free and premium version of rom manager?

kcfried said:
Ok, I have ROM Manager premium installed, rooted, etc. I'm running 2.2 version UVKB5 on my T Mobile Samsung Vibrant.
I've selected the option to Flash ClockworkMod Recovery for the "Samsung Vibrant" and it won't boot to CWR. If I select reintall packages, it fails every time.
Help!
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Make sure the "update.zip" file is on your Int SD card... power off your phone.
While holding down the Vol up+down, press and hold all 3 buttons till the "Samsung/Vibrant splash screen pops up.
You should boot into stock recovery, use vol up and down to move up and down and choose "reinstall update" with power... it should reboot and bring you right back to where you were... repeat choose "reinstall update" with power... now you should boot into CWM recoery.

I think the problem is that you have the new recovery (3e I think) that requires signed update.zip files. I'd recommend using Odin3 to flash another kernel which will come with CWM. If you don't want to do that, there is a guide somewhere on xda to allow 3e recovery to flash unsigned update.zip files.
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phantomsniper773 said:
I think the problem is that you have the new recovery (3e I think) that requires signed update.zip files. I'd recommend using Odin3 to flash another kernel which will come with CWM. If you don't want to do that, there is a guide somewhere on xda to allow 3e recovery to flash unsigned update.zip files.
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Exactly clockwork will not install with 3e recovery. Either flash a new kernel or do the 3e mod recovery. Odin will take 1 min to complete its process of flashing a kernel, you should definitely do this. Or just go back to stock and start your flashing journey from there.

aeok18109 said:
did you install both the free and premium version of rom manager?
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Yup, I installed ROM Manager, then bought the premium key. I've got all functionality available to me.
Only problem is that when it flashes the recovery, nothing happens. If I reboot to recovery, it says the update.zip has an invalid signature. It seems nothing works. Am I supposed to flash back to droid 2.1 to get this thing working? It seems like it should be easier than this....

ferhanmm said:
Exactly clockwork will not install with 3e recovery. Either flash a new kernel or do the 3e mod recovery. Odin will take 1 min to complete its process of flashing a kernel, you should definitely do this. Or just go back to stock and start your flashing journey from there.
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Thanks for the info. Any suggestions on kernels to use and a link for more info on what specifically a kernel is/does? Last thing I want to do is brick this puppy
Update...
Ok, did a little google-fu and found some links. I am using 3e, so ODIN it is! Thanks for the nudge int he right direction - wish me luck!

you can download this and used it to flash back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509 .and root and then try rom manger again this work for me all the time.

phantomsniper773 said:
I think the problem is that you have the new recovery (3e I think) that requires signed update.zip files. I'd recommend using Odin3 to flash another kernel which will come with CWM. If you don't want to do that, there is a guide somewhere on xda to allow 3e recovery to flash unsigned update.zip files.
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Richcar said:
you can download this and used it to flash back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509 .and root and then try rom manger again this work for me all the time.
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Yes, you are correct... another solution is to Odin the KB5 kernel with Voodoo and Recovery, make sure nothing check in Odin - LINK

Richcar said:
you can download this and used it to flash back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509 .and root and then try rom manger again this work for me all the time.
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Well ****. I got CWM on there, installed zip from SD card (latest Cyanogen for vibrant) and now the thing's in an infinite reboot loop. ARRRGH! What now?

kcfried said:
Well ****. I got CWM on there, installed zip from SD card (latest Cyanogen for vibrant) and now the thing's in an infinite reboot loop. ARRRGH! What now?
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Cotton needs new shorts! In CWM recovery, I did another wipe/format, reinstalled the zip and BOOYAH, it's done!
Thanks VEYR much for everybody's help!

kcfried said:
Cotton needs new shorts! In CWM recovery, I did another wipe/format, reinstalled the zip and BOOYAH, it's done!
Thanks VEYR much for everybody's help!
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Originally Posted by kcfried
Well ****. I got CWM on there, installed zip from SD card (latest Cyanogen for vibrant) and now the thing's in an infinite reboot loop. ARRRGH! What now?
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If your running CyanogenMod, there no way around Odin'ing to get back to stock. CyanogenMod (CM7) changes the partitioning to MTD from Stock RFS/Ext4. Only way to get that back is to Odin back to stock.

ROM Manager / Clockwork Mod question

I'm trying to install clockwork mod on the wifes captivate. Unlike mine, she doesn't want a custom rom, actually she doesn't want me messing with it at all lol! Anyway it's rooted and I ran the 3e recovery fix script for Froyo as her's is 2.2.
So I install ROM Manager to install cwm, select Captivate and it says not supported on your device, manually install a recovery first and run again. Ok so where does one get a cwm file to manually install? I looked on the clockwork site and it has rom & recovery files listed but unknown if that's it and if it's even compatible with 2.2? Anyone have a clue on this? I've search multiple threads and haven't found one with this particular issue.

Search for "update.zip"

You need a clockwork enabled kernel. Then RomManager will be able to install CW.
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98XJ said:
You need a clockwork enabled kernel. Then RomManager will be able to install CW.
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This is wrong.
To OP don't waste your time with Rom Manager. Flash a kernel with cwm baked in it (any i897 2.2 kernel should work) or as mrhaley30705 said update.zip.

prbassplayer said:
This is wrong.
To OP don't waste your time with Rom Manager. Flash a kernel with cwm baked in it (any i897 2.2 kernel should work) or as mrhaley30705 said update.zip.
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what he said. flash any custom kernel, it has cwm built in. or do the update.zip method and make sure NEVER delete the file!!!!!!
but go with a custom kernel the have TONES of other cool options added. find one that is odin flashable and odin flash it...
here...
Odin3v1.85.zip
Onix kernel v2.0.5 made for android 2.2 search the forum for its thread to find all its options
boot phone into download mode (search)
plug in to computer
open odin
load the kernel into the PDA box.
press start

prbassplayer said:
This is wrong.
To OP don't waste your time with Rom Manager. Flash a kernel with cwm baked in it (any i897 2.2 kernel should work) or as mrhaley30705 said update.zip.
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Curious how my statement is wrong? He asked why rom manager would not install clockwork and I told him. I said he needed a cwm compatible kernel, and you just repeated what I said except not to use rom manager?
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98XJ said:
Curious how my statement is wrong? He asked why rom manager would not install clockwork and I told him. I said he needed a cwm compatible kernel, and you just repeated what I said except not to use rom manager?
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there is no CWM compatible kernel. all custom kernels have CWM baked in. ROM manager is useless

^That's why its wrong.

Ah ok, roger that. I fully understand it now. Thanks.
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I rooted the phone, install rom manager, flash cwm recovery, then when i start recovery mode i don’t have install packages.Don’t know why, nevermind i install custom kernel and in there cwm recovery already.

szika87 said:
I rooted the phone, install rom manager, flash cwm recovery, then when i start recovery mode i don’t have install packages.Don’t know why, nevermind i install custom kernel and in there cwm recovery already.
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holy christ. did you read this thread before replying to it?