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I have searched a lot, spent time trying to figure everything out.
I have Hero that I am trying to make BA for my little bro. I have the evo now. Rooted and tethering. Not much else I need to mess with on it. Fast enough for me. But my old hero is now rooted and has the app to tether. I can't figure out how the heck to over clock it. It is slow and I want to kick it up a couple notches for him.
I have searched and all the codes that you guys use at the top throw the searches off, or maybe I am searching for the wrong thing.
Any links to other threads would be great. That way when someone else searches just over clocking like I did it will come to this thread and then link to the useful threads.
Thanks in advanced.
I see you are rooted already, is the phone running a stock rom? If so think about installing [ROM] cyanogenMod 6.1 stable (<<<<search). Then you flash a [Kernel] [GPL] DecaFuct [2.6.29.6] (<<<<search) and install a app called OverClock Widget, it is easier to use than the other one you can use called SetCPU. Thats pretty much it, somebody may chime in that can put a few links up but I am on my phone right now so I cant.
DecaFuct Max 768Mhz Kernel
DecaFyct Max 698Mhz Kernel
Decad3nce's Kernel OP Thread
These are JayBob's CM6.2 ROM Downloads.
Okay, so I need to back up my phone? Can I use the app on the android market MyBackup by Rerwarre, LLC? Then I need to download the files you linked me to in this thread? And then what?
Okay. I am sure you are all tired of hearing from me. But I am going to flash a ROM that has a over clock on it. I have a question tho. When I download the files. It unzips them. By that I mean I can open the folder and explore all of the files. Does this make it impossible to load that ROM? Thanks for your quick responses in advanced.
You dont want the file unzipped. Leave it zipped and put it on the root of SD card, that means just on the SD card, not in another file. Then reboot into recovery by powering phone off, then hold down the power button and the home button at the same time, keep them down until recovery comes on. If a white page comes up instead of recovery that says clear storage, pull battery and try again. Once in recovery you should see a few options. Nandroid, select this by clicking track ball while highlighted, this will back up your current system. After that choose install zip from SD card, then select the rom you loaded on SD card. After is says done, choose reboot system now. Then find Gapps 12-18-2010, I think those are the latest ones. Put them on root of SD like you did the rom and reboot into recovery the same way, choose the install zip from SD and select the Gapp file. Then reboot system amd you will set phone up with google like you did when it was new. You can then install one of the kernels linked for you, I recommend the 768 one, download OverClock Widget from the market and set it to 748, if your phone reboots for no reason lower that to 729, 710, wherever it becomes stable for you.
Okay, I did nandroid, I cleared everything, and I loaded the zip'd file ( I was trying to say earlier it is my mac's default action to un zip the file when it downloads. So I re compressed it. This might be attributing to my later problems) ANd then I rebooted. And it looks and behaves exactly the same as before.
Any pointers or ideas why it did this?
oefootball_70 said:
Okay, I did nandroid, I cleared everything, and I loaded the zip'd file ( I was trying to say earlier it is my mac's default action to un zip the file when it downloads. So I re compressed it. This might be attributing to my later problems) ANd then I rebooted. And it looks and behaves exactly the same as before.
Any pointers or ideas why it did this?
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Since you re compressed it, it may need to be resigned before flashing. I could be wrong though
What does resigned mean?
ANybody have any idea why my ROMS arent loading at all?
Not quite sure if this will work on mac, you may need to find a XP pc to do this from. Here is a link to a zip signer though, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805766&highlight=zip+signer
Another thought...
Can you download the rom using the phone, then move file from download folder to root of SD card, using a file manager such as Astro or even better E Strongs File Explorer? I have read where some members have rooted, installed roms, kernels, theme, with no PC at all.
awesome idea on doing it from my phone. I didn't know it was a Mac problem. I can just run boot camp and boot up my mac with windows OS and try it on that. Thanks again.
Okay, i am trying to do it all from the phone. But the file is too large for the phones memory. And I can't figure out how to download righto the SD card. Any pointers here?
oefootball_70 said:
Okay, i am trying to do it all from the phone. But the file is too large for the phones memory. And I can't figure out how to download righto the SD card. Any pointers here?
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That's weird it should. I have my applications checked to be installed to external memory but I don't know if that makes a difference or not. Mine go to sd
How would I click that option.
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How would I click that option.
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Ok what rom are you running again?
I just go to settings then cyanogenmod settings then application settings & it will let you choose
The factory ROM trying to get the first custom one loaded.
use the xda app and navigate to the thread that has the rom you want to install. from there click the link of the rom and it will go to SD card in a file called downloads. after completed plug phone into PC/mac and move that file/rom to root of SD card. Then reboot recovery and flash, done. There are literally 100+ threads on installing a rom, search, read, learn. What recovery do you have installed?
Okay downloading it to my Windows 7 bootcamp worked like a charm. I did the red dawn ROM. Isn't that one already over clocked?
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Okay downloading it to my Windows 7 bootcamp worked like a charm. I did the red dawn ROM. Isn't that one already over clocked?
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I believe it is, 710 maybe not to sure I have never ran it. There are faster smoother roms to run, why that one when we have Froyo for the Hero
Let me apologize first of all as I come from 5 years of using Windows Mobile knwoing what I am doing (cooking ROMs included) and now just got my Galaxy /Android a couple weeks ago and am blank at all of it.
After messing up with some system files and (useless) stock applications (like I removed stk.apk and other stuff) I decided to do a full hardware reset as the phone started getting random crashes.
But after the full reset things only got dramatically worse. I quickly realized all the missing system apps are still missing (I thought they'd be "restored") and basically nothing works, just crashes one after the next, cant use anything.
So, a hardware system reset on the galaxy, doesnt really reset anything except user installed apps and settings... amazing
Can someone please tell me (the idiot here, I know) how to do a real full restore where all system files, all missing files and positively everything gets back in the Tab as it was originally?
What a flippin' nightmare... Thanks in advance very much!
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
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OK, first of all a big thanks for both file and info. Aside from the Stk.apk, the biggest thing that made me run into problems was trying to update my Contacts.apk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907399
things didnt work out for me and even after restoring the original files (Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex) nothing really worked again, reason for wich I tried a system reset.
Now, do I need to re-root the Tab or its still rooted, and can I perform the operations easily with Root Explorer like I did before? You mentioned to use adb and set permissions to 644 after push but, sorry again for the ignorance, I have no clue what adb is nor what/how to set permissions. Pathetic to be ignorant huh?
My last 2 questions are, where could I find the original Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex and if needed a full ROM to do a total restore?... hopefully I wont need to get to that point?...
Thanks a million again.
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
bartito said:
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
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Hmmmm thanks again but I think Im beyond all this. I dont have a file manager on my system, just realized I deleted the useless stock one and had repalced it with Root Explorer and ES File Explorer. I have them on my External SD Card to install them again but withou a file manager or an app installer cant get to them. And I tried download an app installer from the Market and get Framework errors non-stop and downloads do not initialize... I think Im beyond a quick fix... how do I get my hands on a stock full ROM to restore everything... and how? What a nightmare... gotta tell you, I love Windows Mobile... I love it... never ran into anything like this in the past 5 years of using it... never...
Thanks again!
use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
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use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
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Cant. Dont even know if I need Kies installed or not (I did have it installed) but adb just asks me to connect the phone and thats it... its connected aready... this is desperating...
OK I did manage to connect with adb but, how to I install applications? I can navigate to my SD card where I have ES File Explorer and Root Explorer but dont seem to be able to install them... Also if i try to copy Stk.apk I get immediately an failute message... this is crazy...
OK so I managed to install ES File Explorer and Root Explorer with adb... crazy process. It seems my phone is still rooted after the reset. From the phone I copied Stk.apk back to /system/apps where it was before deleted.
But needless to say nothing got fixed... not sure if Stk.apk is now "actually" installed or just there in the folder. But still nothing works and crashes every 10 seconds... logs provider, dialer, phone, framework, contacts... its all a firework of crashes...
Given that you've hard reset your device already, you are pretty much wasting your time trying to "fix" what you broke by messing with /system, and you should really just flash another ROM.
My suggestion would be to follow the advice on this thread.
Regards,
Dave
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
VeEuzUKY said:
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
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Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
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Yes Dave you are right, right and right again!!! Thank you for the wisdom and advice!!!
The main thing I have understood with today's messy experience was that the actual ROM files are never deleted or damaged as long as you dont access them via a rooted tool and start deleting them. Now I understand that Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup (my favorite), My Backup Pro and others, only back-up and restore what the user installs on top of the ROM itself. So a full "reset" wipes all that data but leaves the ROM files as they always were. If they got damaged in the process, they'll still be damaged till a a full ROM restores all system data, now I get it.
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
Till I find an app or way to do a simple one-click "backup everything" and then "restore evertything" I always feel vulnerable to changes I make to the Tab that may get it unstable or corrupt and then not being able to be restored properly without a full ROM Flash and then re-installing all from scratch.
With WinMo, I could do all sorts of crazy experiments and tweaking and after that, a registry restore or back-up restore would bring me back my phone to exactly like it was with all my stuff and configuration in a matter of seconds or minutes. Thats what I need to find out with this Tab/Android and then Im ready to be able to explore messing up with this knowing I can always easily go back within minutes to the state I had before with all my apps and settings.
This is what I need to learn next how to do! Trampoline without a safety net is not a good idea. Ive alwways loved WinMo for the ease of backing up and restoring whatever I was doing on my handsets withjout ever worrying to put myself at risk to loose it all. I need to learn this on Android and its definitely more intricate!
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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instechgainza said:
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
VeEuzUKY said:
Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
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no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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instechgainza said:
no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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Where is the modaco kernel section you refer to? I can search for hours and find zilch... these blogs are endless...
VeEuzUKY said:
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
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What you want is a Nandroid backup, which you can only make from a recovery image like Clockworkmod recovery.
Essentially, this does exactly what you want, but you need to flash a new kernel (e.g. the MoDaCo kernel) which supports Clockwordmod.
Regards,
Dave
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
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i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
b0ricuaguerrero said:
i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
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When I delete stk.apk (for me useless useless useless) the first thing that happens immediately is that when I hang-up on a call made or received, the Tab vibrates then freezes for about 5 seconds then tells me the phone application has crashed. I tried this with 2 ROMs now as a test and its guaranteed. More even, if you use a program like SYSTEM APP REMOVER you can emulate the removal of an app by disabling it... it only takes me to disable STK and a reboot for the phone not to work. cant get rid of it, that simple
Ok, I have searched high and low, and found nothing, I want my good old android stock keyboard in gingerbread. I have found a hundred ways of putting the gb one on everything, even a psp, but not the other way around. Can someone build an apk, or a zip to do this? I am having such trouble getting use to the gb keyboard.
So, im asking for the old default androind keyboard in the new 2.3.X
Thank you
I'm not understanding. Stock is there for me. Imputed method>gingerbread. Keyboard=stock
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I'm not understanding. Stock is there for me. Imputed method>gingerbread. Keyboard=stock
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I think he means the keyboard that was in 2.1 (or 2.2).
Correct me if I'm wrong OP.
Yes, the one on 2.1 and 2.2. I hate this gb one, space bar is so small!
klloyd said:
Yes, the one on 2.1 and 2.2. I hate this gb one, space bar is so small!
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I'm thinking you could always pull it out of the 2.2 Froyo ROM zip that is around here.
Should be in system/app (I think).
You can use 7zip to pull it directly as a zip instead of unzziping, getting it and rezipping.
Once you got it, just put it on your sd card and install.
I can't promise it will work cause the framework is different on GB ROMs but it's worth a try. The worse you'll get is a "Can't install error".
Oh, I got it. And it even installs. But I don't know where it goes, Or where supposed to go in gb. Cause it didn't show up in the settings section.
klloyd said:
Oh, I got it. And it even installs. But I don't know where it goes, Or where supposed to go in gb. Cause it didn't show up in the settings section.
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It should install in system/app
I believe you should be able to change it under settings -> local and text.
It's trying to put files in /meta-inf, system/app and system/ lib. it says its installing, but i show no evidence of it.
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It's trying to put files in /meta-inf, system/app and system/ lib. it says its installing, but i show no evidence of it.
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Que?
what is trying to put files where?
meta-inf is in cwm zip files, it's the flashing instructions for cwm? There is no folder on the phone called that.
I'm confused
Lets start over shall we,
What you have to do is open the zip, either unzip with native windows tools or just open the archive in 7zip. Take out the keyboard apk you want out of /system/app and the corresponding lib file in /system/lib. Put those in the same folders on the phone, either push them with adb or drop them in with root explorer, and reboot.
Still no guarantee it'll quirk on gingerbread though...
The above mentioned directory is the folders in the zip file that when opened it will write to on extraction. On earlier roms, 2.2.x, i flashed it via cw as an update.zip. Apparently this doesn't work with 2.3.x. Do i have a file that is really old?
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What, kernel are you using?
talon, has cwm3 and needs an edify script not amend like cwm 2.5
Just try it manually like a described.
Ok, ill give it a shot, see what i can.do with it manually .
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Btw, kernel is talon i think, what ever continuum comes with.
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Hi,
I want to install a new ROM without loosing any data and settings. I have made a Titanium backup.
As I now have only one SDCard, will ti be OK to copy the titanium directory to the PC, do the clean install, and copy ONLY the TB directory back to the SD, and do a restore?
Thanks for answers,
velizet said:
Hi,
I want to install a new ROM without loosing any data and settings. I have made a Titanium backup.
As I now have only one SDCard, will ti be OK to copy the titanium directory to the PC, do the clean install, and copy ONLY the TB directory back to the SD, and do a restore?
Thanks for answers,
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If the current ROM is any of the ff:
CM7 Stable (7.0, 7.1)
CM7 Nightly
Phiremod
CM7 MiRaGe KANG
AND the new ROM any of the above as well, you can just do the ff:
Put the new ROM's zip as well as any associated Kernel zips to the root of your microSD card (or anywhere really, doesn't matter. It's just so you can easily see and navigate to it)
Reboot to ClockWorkMod Recovery menu. Advisable if you have the latest CWM installed, which would be 3.2.0.1. (You can get the latest CWM through ROM Manager, which can be downloaded off the Market.)
Once you're there, go to Mounts & Storage.
Format System
Format Cache
Afterwards, go ahead and install your new ROM.
Once it boots up, you will still have all your apps even if you don't use TitaniumBackup since you did not format the "Data" partition.
All of the instructions above is if your install is in your NookColor's eMMC as opposed to running it off a microSD card.
Hope this helps.
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If the current ROM is any of the ff:
CM7 Stable (7.0, 7.1)
CM7 Nightly
Phiremod
CM7 MiRaGe KANG
AND the new ROM any of the above as well, you can just do the ff:
Put the new ROM's zip as well as any associated Kernel zips to the root of your microSD card (or anywhere really, doesn't matter. It's just so you can easily see and navigate to it)
Reboot to ClockWorkMod Recovery menu. Advisable if you have the latest CWM installed, which would be 3.2.0.1. (You can get the latest CWM through ROM Manager, which can be downloaded off the Market.)
Once you're there, go to Mounts & Storage.
Format System
Format Cache
Afterwards, go ahead and install your new ROM.
Once it boots up, you will still have all your apps even if you don't use TitaniumBackup since you did not format the "Data" partition.
All of the instructions above is if your install is in your NookColor's eMMC as opposed to running it off a microSD card.
Hope this helps.
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Did all that,
Booted to CM7.2, lost gmail, lost market. Now trying to roll back.
velizet said:
Did all that,
Booted to CM7.2, lost gmail, lost market. Now trying to roll back.
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You may need to reinstall gapps.
velizet said:
Did all that,
Booted to CM7.2, lost gmail, lost market. Now trying to roll back.
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Installing gapps again is part of installing a new ROM, which I forgot to mention. My bad. Just download gapps from ROM Manager, then flash it via recovery or via ROM Manager too.
Tapatalkin' it from my rooted NookColor running CM7 MiRaGe [KANG] [7.2 RC] overclocked @ 1.2 GHz
les02jen17 said:
Installing gapps again is part of installing a new ROM, which I forgot to mention. My bad. Just download gapps from ROM Manager, then flash it via recovery or via ROM Manager too.
Tapatalkin' it from my rooted NookColor running CM7 MiRaGe [KANG] [7.2 RC] overclocked @ 1.2 GHz
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Hi,
Now I am back to the latest 7.1 Nightly with everything working, had to install market.apk, than gmail.
The reason I do not want to loose data is, as I am not in US, because of some stupid Google policy, I had to sideload some apks like G+, currents, earth, maps, etc. and I do not want to fetch them again.
So my 2 questions are:
1- If I install gapps again, will I be able to keep these sideloaded apps?
2- Is it worth to move to 7.2 at all? (BTW 7.2 RC0 is around 70 MB, whereas the latest nightlies are all around 100 MB)
Why don't you move those .apk files to another folder, say, the eMMC.
votinh said:
Why don't you move those .apk files to another folder, say, the eMMC.
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Because I don't know what will happen if I move those to another place, say, emmc.
velizet said:
... I had to sideload some apks like G+, currents, earth, maps, etc. and I do not want to fetch them again.
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Why would you have to? O-M-G! you aren't one of those, DELETERS are you?
velizet said:
Because I don't know what will happen if I move those to another place, say, emmc.
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The .apk file is more like the package, let's say, like a .zip file (in Windows), you can make 1001 one copies if you want. You can move it from drive C: to drive D if you want. You can move it to the external hdd if you want. You can store it on the cloud if you want.
Basically, you do whatever you want with it.
You might not understand what I meant, I guess.
Just store it (them) to another storage so you can access it (them) and reinstall later if you need.
MISRy said:
Why would you have to? O-M-G! you aren't one of those, DELETERS are you?
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If you read my op, you will see the answer.
votinh said:
The .apk file is more like the package, let's say, like a .zip file (in Windows), you can make 1001 one copies if you want. You can move it from drive C: to drive D if you want. You can move it to the external hdd if you want. You can store it on the cloud if you want.
Basically, you do whatever you want with it.
You might not understand what I meant, I guess.
Just store it (them) to another storage so you can access it (them) and reinstall later if you need.
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I know what you mean, but if you look at the context I'm using, that piece of info is not helpful.
What I don't know is the Android system, where it keeps the applications, what happens when I install the system, how are apks affected etc.
For example in windows, you cannot just upgrade the system and expect every installed application to work.
The main point of the original post was trying to understand these.
Unless you want to become an OS developer, in this case an Android OS guru, then you need to learn and understand clearly the structure of it. If you are just a normal user or power user, why make your life harder digging into what and/or how the system and its associated files work???
Just like in Windows, all you need is the installation package (file), install it, it will install to the default directory, all you have to do next is run the executable file and let it run.
Next time, if you want to re-install, all you need is that "installation package". Why do you need to care what happen w/i those default installed folders such win/system32/xxxx or C:\Program Files\xxx?
Yes, sure, you can dig into it to understand more about, but why would you do that if you are just an user?
Back to your question, if I understand correctly, you want to REINSTALL those apps (if they are not coming back after install new ROM) and that's what I tell you.
Another note: unless you are intending installing the completely new custom ROM, /data need to be formatted, otherwise, no need to bother it.
votinh said:
Unless you want to become an OS developer, in this case an Android OS guru, then you need to learn and understand clearly the structure of it. If you are just a normal user or power user, why make your life harder digging into what and/or how the system and its associated files work???
Just like in Windows, all you need is the installation package (file), install it, it will install to the default directory, all you have to do next is run the executable file and let it run.
Next time, if you want to re-install, all you need is that "installation package". Why do you need to care what happen w/i those default installed folders such win/system32/xxxx or C:\Program Files\xxx?
Yes, sure, you can dig into it to understand more about, but why would you do that if you are just an user?
Back to your question, if I understand correctly, you want to REINSTALL those apps (if they are not coming back after install new ROM) and that's what I tell you.
Another note: unless you are intending installing the completely new custom ROM, /data need to be formatted, otherwise, no need to bother it.
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First of all, according to my philosophy of life, knowledge does not make life harder in the long run.
Secondly, I really doubt copying an .apk file to a medium as you say makes it install automatically.
Thirdly, I want to know when an application is installed, is it contained in its own directory, or does it write something to somewhere like a registry or what, and also where do the former preferences stay, etc.
Hope I can make myself clear.
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First of all, according to my philosophy of life, knowledge does not make life harder in the long run.
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Absolutely true, no argument with this.
Secondly, I really doubt copying an .apk file to a medium as you say makes it install automatically.
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There is nowhere that I said it will AUTOMATICALLY install. You INSTALL it when you need it.
Thirdly, I want to know when an application is installed, is it contained in its own directory, or does it write something to somewhere like a registry or what, and also where do the former preferences stay, etc.
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I leave this question to other Android gurus to help you.
I'm wanting to install the current version of the AOKP rom onto my note, but i noticed (after I flashed - boh) that there's an FC problem with the included launchers on that rom.
In the instructions they suggest using ADB to push novalauncher's apk file out to your device, but that seems needlessly complex to me when I could just (in theory) bundle the app into the .zip before I flash.
Is there any reason I can't insert the nova.apk into the AOKP.zip file (in /system/app as i understand it), zip it back up, flash the .zip as per normal AOKP instructions and proceed on my merry way?
Is it that simple? Do I need to mess around with chmodding the apk file or should the fact that it's in /system do that stuff for me?
FWIW I have tried this, but got some problems with having lost root between flashes (stupid ICS root) and that caused me some problems and a lot of high-heartrate moments trying to flash back to a working RocketRom build.
I'd rather do it 'properly' with accurate information about what I'm doing before I try again.
Appreciate the assistance.
I am to faceing the same problem but on other device
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I'm wanting to install the current version of the AOKP rom onto my note, but i noticed (after I flashed - boh) that there's an FC problem with the included launchers on that rom.
In the instructions they suggest using ADB to push novalauncher's apk file out to your device, but that seems needlessly complex to me when I could just (in theory) bundle the app into the .zip before I flash.
Is there any reason I can't insert the nova.apk into the AOKP.zip file (in /system/app as i understand it), zip it back up, flash the .zip as per normal AOKP instructions and proceed on my merry way?
Is it that simple? Do I need to mess around with chmodding the apk file or should the fact that it's in /system do that stuff for me?
FWIW I have tried this, but got some problems with having lost root between flashes (stupid ICS root) and that caused me some problems and a lot of high-heartrate moments trying to flash back to a working RocketRom build.
I'd rather do it 'properly' with accurate information about what I'm doing before I try again.
Appreciate the assistance.
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I open the ROM zip up and add .apks to the /system/app/ folder all the time..I also delete the ones I know I can and won't use..
There are some apps that won't work like this but its very uncommon..For example I can never include quickpic I always have to manually install it from the market.
sideways86 said:
I'm wanting to install the current version of the AOKP rom onto my note, but i noticed (after I flashed - boh) that there's an FC problem with the included launchers on that rom.
In the instructions they suggest using ADB to push novalauncher's apk file out to your device, but that seems needlessly complex to me when I could just (in theory) bundle the app into the .zip before I flash.
Is there any reason I can't insert the nova.apk into the AOKP.zip file (in /system/app as i understand it), zip it back up, flash the .zip as per normal AOKP instructions and proceed on my merry way?
Is it that simple? Do I need to mess around with chmodding the apk file or should the fact that it's in /system do that stuff for me?
FWIW I have tried this, but got some problems with having lost root between flashes (stupid ICS root) and that caused me some problems and a lot of high-heartrate moments trying to flash back to a working RocketRom build.
I'd rather do it 'properly' with accurate information about what I'm doing before I try again.
Appreciate the assistance.
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Well my problem is solved
Check the app name of apps ur adding they should not include space in them ( like xda primium.apk) if there r space then remove the space (like xdaprimium.apk) it should work fine
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I open the ROM zip up and add .apks to the /system/app/ folder all the time..I also delete the ones I know I can and won't use..
There are some apps that won't work like this but its very uncommon..For example I can never include quickpic I always have to manually install it from the market.
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Thanks man.
One more question - as far as launcher apps go, is there any way to set the default launcher in the .zip file?
If I delete the pre-existing launcher app from the rom in question and add nova.apk should it set itself as the default launcher app automatically?
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Thanks man.
One more question - as far as launcher apps go, is there any way to set the default launcher in the .zip file?
If I delete the pre-existing launcher app from the rom in question and add nova.apk should it set itself as the default launcher app automatically?
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no you will prbably need to makea script to get it to work
How can i make the required script??
plz help
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And ive heard "the TouchWiz launcher included in the rom has hardware acceleration for better graphics performance while the launchers we use like GO LAUNCHER etc depends totally on cpu. They consume cpu power only and no GPU"
IS THAT SO??????????????
that would not mean a good thing
cause GO launcher or n other launcher are way better than Stock TWiz launcher.
I don't want someone to do all the work for me, but if anyone could direct me to some kind of resource with the relevant syntax and such that'd be amazing.
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If I delete the pre-existing launcher app from the rom in question and add nova.apk should it set itself as the default launcher app automatically?
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You can delete any launcher in the original zip and replace it with Nova and it will work. You don't need any script to do that, as suggested before.
thanks chasmodo - this worked flawlessly.