Hi,
I want to install a new ROM without loosing any data and settings. I have made a Titanium backup.
As I now have only one SDCard, will ti be OK to copy the titanium directory to the PC, do the clean install, and copy ONLY the TB directory back to the SD, and do a restore?
Thanks for answers,
velizet said:
Hi,
I want to install a new ROM without loosing any data and settings. I have made a Titanium backup.
As I now have only one SDCard, will ti be OK to copy the titanium directory to the PC, do the clean install, and copy ONLY the TB directory back to the SD, and do a restore?
Thanks for answers,
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If the current ROM is any of the ff:
CM7 Stable (7.0, 7.1)
CM7 Nightly
Phiremod
CM7 MiRaGe KANG
AND the new ROM any of the above as well, you can just do the ff:
Put the new ROM's zip as well as any associated Kernel zips to the root of your microSD card (or anywhere really, doesn't matter. It's just so you can easily see and navigate to it)
Reboot to ClockWorkMod Recovery menu. Advisable if you have the latest CWM installed, which would be 3.2.0.1. (You can get the latest CWM through ROM Manager, which can be downloaded off the Market.)
Once you're there, go to Mounts & Storage.
Format System
Format Cache
Afterwards, go ahead and install your new ROM.
Once it boots up, you will still have all your apps even if you don't use TitaniumBackup since you did not format the "Data" partition.
All of the instructions above is if your install is in your NookColor's eMMC as opposed to running it off a microSD card.
Hope this helps.
les02jen17 said:
If the current ROM is any of the ff:
CM7 Stable (7.0, 7.1)
CM7 Nightly
Phiremod
CM7 MiRaGe KANG
AND the new ROM any of the above as well, you can just do the ff:
Put the new ROM's zip as well as any associated Kernel zips to the root of your microSD card (or anywhere really, doesn't matter. It's just so you can easily see and navigate to it)
Reboot to ClockWorkMod Recovery menu. Advisable if you have the latest CWM installed, which would be 3.2.0.1. (You can get the latest CWM through ROM Manager, which can be downloaded off the Market.)
Once you're there, go to Mounts & Storage.
Format System
Format Cache
Afterwards, go ahead and install your new ROM.
Once it boots up, you will still have all your apps even if you don't use TitaniumBackup since you did not format the "Data" partition.
All of the instructions above is if your install is in your NookColor's eMMC as opposed to running it off a microSD card.
Hope this helps.
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Did all that,
Booted to CM7.2, lost gmail, lost market. Now trying to roll back.
velizet said:
Did all that,
Booted to CM7.2, lost gmail, lost market. Now trying to roll back.
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You may need to reinstall gapps.
velizet said:
Did all that,
Booted to CM7.2, lost gmail, lost market. Now trying to roll back.
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Installing gapps again is part of installing a new ROM, which I forgot to mention. My bad. Just download gapps from ROM Manager, then flash it via recovery or via ROM Manager too.
Tapatalkin' it from my rooted NookColor running CM7 MiRaGe [KANG] [7.2 RC] overclocked @ 1.2 GHz
les02jen17 said:
Installing gapps again is part of installing a new ROM, which I forgot to mention. My bad. Just download gapps from ROM Manager, then flash it via recovery or via ROM Manager too.
Tapatalkin' it from my rooted NookColor running CM7 MiRaGe [KANG] [7.2 RC] overclocked @ 1.2 GHz
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Hi,
Now I am back to the latest 7.1 Nightly with everything working, had to install market.apk, than gmail.
The reason I do not want to loose data is, as I am not in US, because of some stupid Google policy, I had to sideload some apks like G+, currents, earth, maps, etc. and I do not want to fetch them again.
So my 2 questions are:
1- If I install gapps again, will I be able to keep these sideloaded apps?
2- Is it worth to move to 7.2 at all? (BTW 7.2 RC0 is around 70 MB, whereas the latest nightlies are all around 100 MB)
Why don't you move those .apk files to another folder, say, the eMMC.
votinh said:
Why don't you move those .apk files to another folder, say, the eMMC.
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Because I don't know what will happen if I move those to another place, say, emmc.
velizet said:
... I had to sideload some apks like G+, currents, earth, maps, etc. and I do not want to fetch them again.
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Why would you have to? O-M-G! you aren't one of those, DELETERS are you?
velizet said:
Because I don't know what will happen if I move those to another place, say, emmc.
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The .apk file is more like the package, let's say, like a .zip file (in Windows), you can make 1001 one copies if you want. You can move it from drive C: to drive D if you want. You can move it to the external hdd if you want. You can store it on the cloud if you want.
Basically, you do whatever you want with it.
You might not understand what I meant, I guess.
Just store it (them) to another storage so you can access it (them) and reinstall later if you need.
MISRy said:
Why would you have to? O-M-G! you aren't one of those, DELETERS are you?
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If you read my op, you will see the answer.
votinh said:
The .apk file is more like the package, let's say, like a .zip file (in Windows), you can make 1001 one copies if you want. You can move it from drive C: to drive D if you want. You can move it to the external hdd if you want. You can store it on the cloud if you want.
Basically, you do whatever you want with it.
You might not understand what I meant, I guess.
Just store it (them) to another storage so you can access it (them) and reinstall later if you need.
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I know what you mean, but if you look at the context I'm using, that piece of info is not helpful.
What I don't know is the Android system, where it keeps the applications, what happens when I install the system, how are apks affected etc.
For example in windows, you cannot just upgrade the system and expect every installed application to work.
The main point of the original post was trying to understand these.
Unless you want to become an OS developer, in this case an Android OS guru, then you need to learn and understand clearly the structure of it. If you are just a normal user or power user, why make your life harder digging into what and/or how the system and its associated files work???
Just like in Windows, all you need is the installation package (file), install it, it will install to the default directory, all you have to do next is run the executable file and let it run.
Next time, if you want to re-install, all you need is that "installation package". Why do you need to care what happen w/i those default installed folders such win/system32/xxxx or C:\Program Files\xxx?
Yes, sure, you can dig into it to understand more about, but why would you do that if you are just an user?
Back to your question, if I understand correctly, you want to REINSTALL those apps (if they are not coming back after install new ROM) and that's what I tell you.
Another note: unless you are intending installing the completely new custom ROM, /data need to be formatted, otherwise, no need to bother it.
votinh said:
Unless you want to become an OS developer, in this case an Android OS guru, then you need to learn and understand clearly the structure of it. If you are just a normal user or power user, why make your life harder digging into what and/or how the system and its associated files work???
Just like in Windows, all you need is the installation package (file), install it, it will install to the default directory, all you have to do next is run the executable file and let it run.
Next time, if you want to re-install, all you need is that "installation package". Why do you need to care what happen w/i those default installed folders such win/system32/xxxx or C:\Program Files\xxx?
Yes, sure, you can dig into it to understand more about, but why would you do that if you are just an user?
Back to your question, if I understand correctly, you want to REINSTALL those apps (if they are not coming back after install new ROM) and that's what I tell you.
Another note: unless you are intending installing the completely new custom ROM, /data need to be formatted, otherwise, no need to bother it.
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First of all, according to my philosophy of life, knowledge does not make life harder in the long run.
Secondly, I really doubt copying an .apk file to a medium as you say makes it install automatically.
Thirdly, I want to know when an application is installed, is it contained in its own directory, or does it write something to somewhere like a registry or what, and also where do the former preferences stay, etc.
Hope I can make myself clear.
velizet said:
First of all, according to my philosophy of life, knowledge does not make life harder in the long run.
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Absolutely true, no argument with this.
Secondly, I really doubt copying an .apk file to a medium as you say makes it install automatically.
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There is nowhere that I said it will AUTOMATICALLY install. You INSTALL it when you need it.
Thirdly, I want to know when an application is installed, is it contained in its own directory, or does it write something to somewhere like a registry or what, and also where do the former preferences stay, etc.
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I leave this question to other Android gurus to help you.
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Tried firefox for android beta2 today and it freezed my phone, so I uninstall it only to realise that it locked 13MB of my internal memory permanently probably due to bad uninstall. Tried to reinstall it so that I can uninstall it again but it didn't allow me to install again saying that I don't have enough memory (though i still have ~45 MB free internal memory).
Anyone knows where does firefox install to? I couldn't find it in any of the app directory (not in data\app or system\app, nothing in dalvik cache and data\data as well). having 14MB memory locked is really a paint considering how small our milestone memory is.
Please help.
Thanks
en0203 said:
Tried firefox for android beta2 today and it freezed my phone, so I uninstall it only to realise that it locked 13MB of my internal memory permanently probably due to bad uninstall. Tried to reinstall it so that I can uninstall it again but it didn't allow me to install again saying that I don't have enough memory (though i still have ~45 MB free internal memory).
Anyone knows where does firefox install to? I couldn't find it in any of the app directory (not in data\app or system\app, nothing in dalvik cache and data\data as well). having 14MB memory locked is really a paint considering how small our milestone memory is.
Please help.
Thanks
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bump. please can someone help. thanks
en0203 said:
bump. please can someone help. thanks
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1.Do you have a recent nandroid backup? that would be a simple fix?
2. What rom and kernel are you using?
3. Is your phone rooted? Probably yes...All the apps go to /system/app, unless you have apps2sd installed
4. If it's not there and it's not in "manage applications" then probably it's a an error of your rom showing erroneous available space.
Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
1) I am using XT720, we don't have nandroid backup tools yet
2) Stock EU rom and kernel for XT720
3) yes, rooted. I am sure it's not in /system/app (mine has got apps2sd)
4) I guess I'll probably need to reflash the rom to get rid of it then. a bit troublesome but no choice I guess.
Something about the firefox is that if you install it you'll find that the space taken up by the firefox is much bigger than the .apk+dalvik cache+data in the normal app installation path. some portion gets installed into somewhere else which nobody knows where. My friend with a Nexus one try to move it to sd but it simply won't move the whole thing because part of it does not install to the /app.
Anyway, thanks for the help. I'll wait another day or two before I flash it to stock again.
Many thanks
en0203 said:
Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
1) I am using XT720, we don't have nandroid backup tools yet
2) Stock EU rom and kernel for XT720
3) yes, rooted. I am sure it's not in /system/app (mine has got apps2sd)
4) I guess I'll probably need to reflash the rom to get rid of it then. a bit troublesome but no choice I guess.
Something about the firefox is that if you install it you'll find that the space taken up by the firefox is much bigger than the .apk+dalvik cache+data in the normal app installation path. some portion gets installed into somewhere else which nobody knows where. My friend with a Nexus one try to move it to sd but it simply won't move the whole thing because part of it does not install to the /app.
Anyway, thanks for the help. I'll wait another day or two before I flash it to stock again.
Many thanks
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Can you go into recovery? ADB commands actually work as root there.
You also said you have app2sd - I'm guessing the ext version. You can browse around the ext partition if you have something that can read it (like Ubuntu) and delete it from the card as well.
- Look into your /cache partition and delete every download*.apk
- Look into /data/app and look if there is still an apk left
- Look into /data/data and see if a Firefox-folder is located there - delete it!
You can do all this with RootExplorer
Then you should be fixed
Milestone isn't supported. I think I read it somewhere on the mozilla site. There's some known issue logged somewhere
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
Check if there is any "*.tmp" files under /data/app ?
I was locked some memory due to unsuccessful install of "Pocket Legends", and found out that the apks were stored in both "/cache/downloadfile.apk" and "/data/app/vmxyzxyz.tmp".
I am very new to this, so I am not sure what to looks for on the forum.
I generally followed instructions from Lifehacker and this forum, used androot to root my phone, done it after two days.. (finally figured out I had to downgrade my phone.. )
So now I'm rooted, I have super user access, and I have rom manager installed. Here are a couple of things I know I want to get to do:
- install froyo (as stable as possible)
- uninstall sprint crapware (the NFL, navigation and others.. who needs them)
- possibly overclocking a little by what I read, I have another battery and I'm willing to try and give overclock a "little" each time to see if it works.
Before I do anything (I backed up my current settings with rom manager), I wanted to post here and ask you guys what I should do first, and how do I restore things back to normal if something goes wrong?
Thanks a bunch!
beholder121 said:
install froyo (as stable as possible)
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Go to the development forum, you should find the latest Froyo builds out there (check my signature for the latest ;-)).
beholder121 said:
uninstall sprint crapware (the NFL, navigation and others.. who needs them)
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If you install CM, it will remove all apps anyways. If you want to know how to remove apps - there are threads all over the place for it.
Also, attached is a script I wrote to remove apps (apk). It's a very simple straightforward script. Here's what you do, create a subfolder (not needed) on your sdcard, copy the two files into the folder, update "Apps-to-remove,txt" with all the apks you want to remove (with the full path) and run the script through terminal or adb shell. This script is not needed, but just simplifies the job, that's all.
beholder121 said:
possibly overclocking a little by what I read, I have another battery and I'm willing to try and give overclock a "little" each time to see if it works.
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Goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756774, read through and use, as appropriate. If you use the latest build by Jaybob, you may not need any kernels from this thread, as the builds have the latest code.
Hope this helps.
beholder121 said:
Before I do anything (I backed up my current settings with rom manager), I wanted to post here and ask you guys what I should do first, and how do I restore things back to normal if something goes wrong?
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To restore everything back to "Out-of-the-box", just run the official RUU from HTC/Sprint.
Thanks Andy.
Right now I'm going through Roms (I heard good things about Cyanogen but I can't download it because their registration page is messed up..) and I tried what comes for free with Rom Manager, which almost gave me a heart attack when the phone started... fortunately I read the instructions to restoring things so I was able to get back to my old rom (whew!!)
But now, for some reason, I don't have the market app on my phone! how am I to download rom manager...
Is it possible to chat with you or someone at least for a couple of minutes as I go through this, because at this rate I won't have my phone working well until tomorrow >.>
You need to install GAPPS, once you install a ROM.
I would highly recommend CM. The builds Jaybob has put together are based on CM code, take the latest (12/08) - it's stable. BTW, it's a mediafire link, so you should be good. I just downloaded the latest, y'day... works like a charm... (Thanks JayBob and Cm and everyone - can't say that enough).
The best way to install rom is:
1. Download copy ROM and gapps to your SDcard's root
2. Reboot into recovery
3. Wipe everything - Wipe/Factory reset, Wipe cache, Wipe Dalvik Cache
4. Install ROM from zip
5. Install Gapps from zip
6. Reboot - btw, the first reboot after a rom/gapps install takes a while, so don't be alarmed.
You can PM me, if needed.
I installed that last Rom via Rom Manager, which did it pretty much automatically.. so I didn't try to install a Rom via the SD card yet.
To make things worse, the phone does not recognized it's connected to a computer at all (there is no USB icon on my phone's notification bar) so I can restore it being to old sprint crap. No Market app, no way of installing anything or communicating with the phone, my backup, when I restore it, brings back the old HTC but without the market app and as I said, no USB support.
heeeeeelllllllllppppppppppppp
Ok,
I managed to restore things back to the old Sprint RUU. I noticed the SD card was *completely* out of room, which might have messed up my backups. I still don't know where these backups reside or how much room do they take, but making sure you have enough room on the SD card is important, as I think I have learned the hard way.
Important: the RUU detected my phone and installed *even without* the usb icon or my computer treating my phone as a "usb storage device". So resorting to this option, even though annoying (have to install and gain root access all over again), is helpful to have.
Now I am going to format my SD card, which doesn't have any important information, I don't think (my documents are all backed up anywhere and try and install the CM rom from a zip file, which I'm not sure how to do yet (people like me are used to have something like setup.exe, and everything works from there...) so I'm going to read and go step by step.
ROM installation is pretty simple, once you get your recovery going... just make sure you wipe everything, as I mentioned earlier to you...
beholder121 said:
I installed that last Rom via Rom Manager, which did it pretty much automatically.. so I didn't try to install a Rom via the SD card yet.
To make things worse, the phone does not recognized it's connected to a computer at all (there is no USB icon on my phone's notification bar) so I can restore it being to old sprint crap. No Market app, no way of installing anything or communicating with the phone, my backup, when I restore it, brings back the old HTC but without the market app and as I said, no USB support.
heeeeeelllllllllppppppppppppp
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Did you reboot with the phone connected by USB, by any chance?
andythegreenguy said:
You need to install GAPPS, once you install a ROM.
I would highly recommend CM. The builds Jaybob has put together are based on CM code, take the latest (12/08) - it's stable. BTW, it's a mediafire link, so you should be good. I just downloaded the latest, y'day... works like a charm... (Thanks JayBob and Cm and everyone - can't say that enough).
The best way to install rom is:
1. Download copy ROM and gapps to your SDcard's root
2. Reboot into recovery
3. Wipe everything - Wipe/Factory reset, Wipe cache, Wipe Dalvik Cache
4. Install ROM from zip
5. Install Gapps from zip
6. Reboot - btw, the first reboot after a rom/gapps install takes a while, so don't be alarmed.
You can PM me, if needed.
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Had it not been for reading this again, I would have been waiting for a reply. This was awesome and now I am back to business. Thanks a ton for this. i now have what i need to do this on my wife's Hero. Thanks again
I have searched a lot, spent time trying to figure everything out.
I have Hero that I am trying to make BA for my little bro. I have the evo now. Rooted and tethering. Not much else I need to mess with on it. Fast enough for me. But my old hero is now rooted and has the app to tether. I can't figure out how the heck to over clock it. It is slow and I want to kick it up a couple notches for him.
I have searched and all the codes that you guys use at the top throw the searches off, or maybe I am searching for the wrong thing.
Any links to other threads would be great. That way when someone else searches just over clocking like I did it will come to this thread and then link to the useful threads.
Thanks in advanced.
I see you are rooted already, is the phone running a stock rom? If so think about installing [ROM] cyanogenMod 6.1 stable (<<<<search). Then you flash a [Kernel] [GPL] DecaFuct [2.6.29.6] (<<<<search) and install a app called OverClock Widget, it is easier to use than the other one you can use called SetCPU. Thats pretty much it, somebody may chime in that can put a few links up but I am on my phone right now so I cant.
DecaFuct Max 768Mhz Kernel
DecaFyct Max 698Mhz Kernel
Decad3nce's Kernel OP Thread
These are JayBob's CM6.2 ROM Downloads.
Okay, so I need to back up my phone? Can I use the app on the android market MyBackup by Rerwarre, LLC? Then I need to download the files you linked me to in this thread? And then what?
Okay. I am sure you are all tired of hearing from me. But I am going to flash a ROM that has a over clock on it. I have a question tho. When I download the files. It unzips them. By that I mean I can open the folder and explore all of the files. Does this make it impossible to load that ROM? Thanks for your quick responses in advanced.
You dont want the file unzipped. Leave it zipped and put it on the root of SD card, that means just on the SD card, not in another file. Then reboot into recovery by powering phone off, then hold down the power button and the home button at the same time, keep them down until recovery comes on. If a white page comes up instead of recovery that says clear storage, pull battery and try again. Once in recovery you should see a few options. Nandroid, select this by clicking track ball while highlighted, this will back up your current system. After that choose install zip from SD card, then select the rom you loaded on SD card. After is says done, choose reboot system now. Then find Gapps 12-18-2010, I think those are the latest ones. Put them on root of SD like you did the rom and reboot into recovery the same way, choose the install zip from SD and select the Gapp file. Then reboot system amd you will set phone up with google like you did when it was new. You can then install one of the kernels linked for you, I recommend the 768 one, download OverClock Widget from the market and set it to 748, if your phone reboots for no reason lower that to 729, 710, wherever it becomes stable for you.
Okay, I did nandroid, I cleared everything, and I loaded the zip'd file ( I was trying to say earlier it is my mac's default action to un zip the file when it downloads. So I re compressed it. This might be attributing to my later problems) ANd then I rebooted. And it looks and behaves exactly the same as before.
Any pointers or ideas why it did this?
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Okay, I did nandroid, I cleared everything, and I loaded the zip'd file ( I was trying to say earlier it is my mac's default action to un zip the file when it downloads. So I re compressed it. This might be attributing to my later problems) ANd then I rebooted. And it looks and behaves exactly the same as before.
Any pointers or ideas why it did this?
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Since you re compressed it, it may need to be resigned before flashing. I could be wrong though
What does resigned mean?
ANybody have any idea why my ROMS arent loading at all?
Not quite sure if this will work on mac, you may need to find a XP pc to do this from. Here is a link to a zip signer though, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805766&highlight=zip+signer
Another thought...
Can you download the rom using the phone, then move file from download folder to root of SD card, using a file manager such as Astro or even better E Strongs File Explorer? I have read where some members have rooted, installed roms, kernels, theme, with no PC at all.
awesome idea on doing it from my phone. I didn't know it was a Mac problem. I can just run boot camp and boot up my mac with windows OS and try it on that. Thanks again.
Okay, i am trying to do it all from the phone. But the file is too large for the phones memory. And I can't figure out how to download righto the SD card. Any pointers here?
oefootball_70 said:
Okay, i am trying to do it all from the phone. But the file is too large for the phones memory. And I can't figure out how to download righto the SD card. Any pointers here?
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That's weird it should. I have my applications checked to be installed to external memory but I don't know if that makes a difference or not. Mine go to sd
How would I click that option.
oefootball_70 said:
How would I click that option.
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Ok what rom are you running again?
I just go to settings then cyanogenmod settings then application settings & it will let you choose
The factory ROM trying to get the first custom one loaded.
use the xda app and navigate to the thread that has the rom you want to install. from there click the link of the rom and it will go to SD card in a file called downloads. after completed plug phone into PC/mac and move that file/rom to root of SD card. Then reboot recovery and flash, done. There are literally 100+ threads on installing a rom, search, read, learn. What recovery do you have installed?
Okay downloading it to my Windows 7 bootcamp worked like a charm. I did the red dawn ROM. Isn't that one already over clocked?
oefootball_70 said:
Okay downloading it to my Windows 7 bootcamp worked like a charm. I did the red dawn ROM. Isn't that one already over clocked?
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I believe it is, 710 maybe not to sure I have never ran it. There are faster smoother roms to run, why that one when we have Froyo for the Hero
Let me apologize first of all as I come from 5 years of using Windows Mobile knwoing what I am doing (cooking ROMs included) and now just got my Galaxy /Android a couple weeks ago and am blank at all of it.
After messing up with some system files and (useless) stock applications (like I removed stk.apk and other stuff) I decided to do a full hardware reset as the phone started getting random crashes.
But after the full reset things only got dramatically worse. I quickly realized all the missing system apps are still missing (I thought they'd be "restored") and basically nothing works, just crashes one after the next, cant use anything.
So, a hardware system reset on the galaxy, doesnt really reset anything except user installed apps and settings... amazing
Can someone please tell me (the idiot here, I know) how to do a real full restore where all system files, all missing files and positively everything gets back in the Tab as it was originally?
What a flippin' nightmare... Thanks in advance very much!
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
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OK, first of all a big thanks for both file and info. Aside from the Stk.apk, the biggest thing that made me run into problems was trying to update my Contacts.apk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907399
things didnt work out for me and even after restoring the original files (Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex) nothing really worked again, reason for wich I tried a system reset.
Now, do I need to re-root the Tab or its still rooted, and can I perform the operations easily with Root Explorer like I did before? You mentioned to use adb and set permissions to 644 after push but, sorry again for the ignorance, I have no clue what adb is nor what/how to set permissions. Pathetic to be ignorant huh?
My last 2 questions are, where could I find the original Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex and if needed a full ROM to do a total restore?... hopefully I wont need to get to that point?...
Thanks a million again.
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
bartito said:
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
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Hmmmm thanks again but I think Im beyond all this. I dont have a file manager on my system, just realized I deleted the useless stock one and had repalced it with Root Explorer and ES File Explorer. I have them on my External SD Card to install them again but withou a file manager or an app installer cant get to them. And I tried download an app installer from the Market and get Framework errors non-stop and downloads do not initialize... I think Im beyond a quick fix... how do I get my hands on a stock full ROM to restore everything... and how? What a nightmare... gotta tell you, I love Windows Mobile... I love it... never ran into anything like this in the past 5 years of using it... never...
Thanks again!
use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
bartito said:
use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
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Cant. Dont even know if I need Kies installed or not (I did have it installed) but adb just asks me to connect the phone and thats it... its connected aready... this is desperating...
OK I did manage to connect with adb but, how to I install applications? I can navigate to my SD card where I have ES File Explorer and Root Explorer but dont seem to be able to install them... Also if i try to copy Stk.apk I get immediately an failute message... this is crazy...
OK so I managed to install ES File Explorer and Root Explorer with adb... crazy process. It seems my phone is still rooted after the reset. From the phone I copied Stk.apk back to /system/apps where it was before deleted.
But needless to say nothing got fixed... not sure if Stk.apk is now "actually" installed or just there in the folder. But still nothing works and crashes every 10 seconds... logs provider, dialer, phone, framework, contacts... its all a firework of crashes...
Given that you've hard reset your device already, you are pretty much wasting your time trying to "fix" what you broke by messing with /system, and you should really just flash another ROM.
My suggestion would be to follow the advice on this thread.
Regards,
Dave
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
VeEuzUKY said:
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
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Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
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Yes Dave you are right, right and right again!!! Thank you for the wisdom and advice!!!
The main thing I have understood with today's messy experience was that the actual ROM files are never deleted or damaged as long as you dont access them via a rooted tool and start deleting them. Now I understand that Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup (my favorite), My Backup Pro and others, only back-up and restore what the user installs on top of the ROM itself. So a full "reset" wipes all that data but leaves the ROM files as they always were. If they got damaged in the process, they'll still be damaged till a a full ROM restores all system data, now I get it.
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
Till I find an app or way to do a simple one-click "backup everything" and then "restore evertything" I always feel vulnerable to changes I make to the Tab that may get it unstable or corrupt and then not being able to be restored properly without a full ROM Flash and then re-installing all from scratch.
With WinMo, I could do all sorts of crazy experiments and tweaking and after that, a registry restore or back-up restore would bring me back my phone to exactly like it was with all my stuff and configuration in a matter of seconds or minutes. Thats what I need to find out with this Tab/Android and then Im ready to be able to explore messing up with this knowing I can always easily go back within minutes to the state I had before with all my apps and settings.
This is what I need to learn next how to do! Trampoline without a safety net is not a good idea. Ive alwways loved WinMo for the ease of backing up and restoring whatever I was doing on my handsets withjout ever worrying to put myself at risk to loose it all. I need to learn this on Android and its definitely more intricate!
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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instechgainza said:
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
VeEuzUKY said:
Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
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no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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instechgainza said:
no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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Where is the modaco kernel section you refer to? I can search for hours and find zilch... these blogs are endless...
VeEuzUKY said:
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
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What you want is a Nandroid backup, which you can only make from a recovery image like Clockworkmod recovery.
Essentially, this does exactly what you want, but you need to flash a new kernel (e.g. the MoDaCo kernel) which supports Clockwordmod.
Regards,
Dave
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deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
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i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
b0ricuaguerrero said:
i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
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When I delete stk.apk (for me useless useless useless) the first thing that happens immediately is that when I hang-up on a call made or received, the Tab vibrates then freezes for about 5 seconds then tells me the phone application has crashed. I tried this with 2 ROMs now as a test and its guaranteed. More even, if you use a program like SYSTEM APP REMOVER you can emulate the removal of an app by disabling it... it only takes me to disable STK and a reboot for the phone not to work. cant get rid of it, that simple
I installed the mms apply from the latest cm7 droid incredible nightly, and it works fine except for the fact that I can't access any of the settings. any way to fix this or do I have to be running full cm7 for them to work?
kilgil27 said:
I installed the mms apply from the latest cm7 droid incredible nightly, and it works fine except for the fact that I can't access any of the settings. any way to fix this or do I have to be running full cm7 for them to work?
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Your in Droid X we don't have cm7
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kilgil27 said:
I installed the mms apply from the latest cm7 droid incredible nightly, and it works fine except for the fact that I can't access any of the settings. any way to fix this or do I have to be running full cm7 for them to work?
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CM7 full build will not run on Droid X because of the bootloader, however, does not mean you can not take out certain parts of the CM7 build.
Did you try installing the app on your Droid X? I have tried doing this with other device with SOME success. However, the package apps with CM7 are built into CM7's framework. You would have to pull other apk's from the framework, ie. "settings".
I know the full CM7 is not loadable on the X (obvioulsy), find the full framework of the CM7 build you pulled the messaging app from and search through it to find other related apks, zips, and files that you might also need. If you are infact trying to insert them into your Droid X. Good luck!!
Post up if you succed!!
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you best bet is to find a freind or something that is already running the CM7 build you want the messaging app out of. Access Root Explorer, search "mms", hard press each file, zip, apk, etc. extract or copy each file (if you extract a new folder will appear on the SD card for them), DO NOT "go to extracted" click "stay here" take those files off the SD card, and try to match them up with whichever ROM you are running and replace. No guarantee that will work, but its your best bet. Its what I had to do. MAKE A BACK-UP of your current ROM first AND do this with the full knowledge you may not be able to boot up again, so make sure you have a good recovery installed and the back-up of your ROM on the root of your SD card.
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you best bet is to find a freind or something that is already running the CM7 build you want the messaging app out of. Access Root Explorer, search "mms", hard press each file, zip, apk, etc. extract or copy each file (if you extract a new folder will appear on the SD card for them), DO NOT "go to extracted" click "stay here" take those files off the SD card, and try to match them up with whichever ROM you are running and replace. No guarantee that will work, but its your best bet. Its what I had to do. MAKE A BACK-UP of your current ROM first AND do this with the full knowledge you may not be able to boot up again, so make sure you have a good recovery installed and the back-up of your ROM on the root of your SD card.
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yea I think this is what im gonna have to do, but I won't have access to one until tomorrow probably. I'll make sure to let you know how it goes, thanks
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