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Fix for USB Mass Storage...

I've recently installed Android to NAND and was looking for a way to mount the sdcard as a usb mass storage device in windows from within Android. I came across an interesting widget on the Android market called "Dual Mount SD Widget":
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-protocol-usb-jBAw.aspx
So I downloaded and installed it to see if it really works... well, IT DOES!
I used voguimg-320x480-17-02-10.nbh and Plemens Android Feb 8th build.
Here's what I did.
1. Download widget. Install. Add to Android desktop.
2. Tap on it. It will say "SD Split"
3. Plug in USB cord to the phone.
4. Notification area says "USB Connected". Don't do anything (ie. Mount it).... Instead, wait about 30secs to a minute.
5. Vista pops up the default actions window for the sdcard. My Computer also lists the sdcard as a removable drive.
I've transferred files back and forth with no problem. Not only that, Astro can see the SD card contents as well at the same time.
Now, the interesting part is that the description for the widget says:
"This widget Modifies a setting that will allow you to mount your SD card to your phone and PC/Radio/ect at the same time."
I'm wondering what setting was modified and if it is possible to build this in so that we don't need to use the widget anymore.

ckl_88 said:
I've recently installed Android to NAND and was looking for a way to mount the sdcard as a usb mass storage device in windows from within Android. I came across an interesting widget on the Android market called "Dual Mount SD Widget":
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-protocol-usb-jBAw.aspx
So I downloaded and installed it to see if it really works... well, IT DOES!
I used voguimg-320x480-17-02-10.nbh and Plemens Android Feb 8th build.
Here's what I did.
1. Download widget. Install. Add to Android desktop.
2. Tap on it. It will say "SD Split"
3. Plug in USB cord to the phone.
4. Notification area says "USB Connected". Don't do anything (ie. Mount it).... Instead, wait about 30secs to a minute.
5. Vista pops up the default actions window for the sdcard. My Computer also lists the sdcard as a removable drive.
I've transferred files back and forth with no problem. Not only that, Astro can see the SD card contents as well at the same time.
Now, the interesting part is that the description for the widget says:
"This widget Modifies a setting that will allow you to mount your SD card to your phone and PC/Radio/ect at the same time."
I'm wondering what setting was modified and if it is possible to build this in so that we don't need to use the widget anymore.
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GREAT find! I am testing right now...
EDIT: Works excellent! It doesn't seem to be in the market for me...maybe because qvga, but I found it online.
I'm running:
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
ADB Drivers installed by PDANet (not that it affects the SD mount)
Sourceforge 2-14-10 NBH (240x320)
Myn's Warm Donut with Hero theme.
This is awesome!
EDIT2: I can also run ADB/tether with PDANet and use mass storage simultaneously.

This is Fantastic!! It works. Great find man. didnt find it on the market but i did find it on the net. im using version 1.6
EDIT: you should take off the "possible" from your title as it is a perfect fix

Working perfect with Myn's Warm Donut + Windows 7 64 bit. Thanks for the tip!

Definitely works! (Using Ubuntu Karmic)
I was only able to find version 1.0 on the net - couldn't find it on the market.

ckl_88 said:
I've recently installed Android to NAND and was looking for a way to mount the sdcard as a usb mass storage device in windows from within Android. I came across an interesting widget on the Android market called "Dual Mount SD Widget":
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-protocol-usb-jBAw.aspx
So I downloaded and installed it to see if it really works... well, IT DOES!
I used voguimg-320x480-17-02-10.nbh and Plemens Android Feb 8th build.
Here's what I did.
1. Download widget. Install. Add to Android desktop.
2. Tap on it. It will say "SD Split"
3. Plug in USB cord to the phone.
4. Notification area says "USB Connected". Don't do anything (ie. Mount it).... Instead, wait about 30secs to a minute.
5. Vista pops up the default actions window for the sdcard. My Computer also lists the sdcard as a removable drive.
I've transferred files back and forth with no problem. Not only that, Astro can see the SD card contents as well at the same time.
Now, the interesting part is that the description for the widget says:
"This widget Modifies a setting that will allow you to mount your SD card to your phone and PC/Radio/ect at the same time."
I'm wondering what setting was modified and if it is possible to build this in so that we don't need to use the widget anymore.
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How do you get it on the phone? Then how do you install it? All I have is a .apk file...what do I do with it? Vista does not recognize my phone, and I do not have a card reader. Thanks.

$1 in market. works great.

crobs808 said:
How do you get it on the phone? Then how do you install it? All I have is a .apk file...what do I do with it? Vista does not recognize my phone, and I do not have a card reader. Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5579322&postcount=14

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttt Luv it luv it and luv it some more...

Man do us a favor and pl take off "Possible" from the title. This is THE fix.

Could you remind me why it's not possible without this app? is it a kernel or user space issue?
A long time ago, dzo told us that this could be solved when nand boot would be ready. Now, that's ready, what avoid solving this problem?

How fast is USB Mass Storage with the Vogue? Does anyone remember the transfer speeds it's rated for?
I'm using a class 6 MicroSD so I guess the card reader method will still be faster for me?

osilvan said:
Could you remind me why it's not possible without this app? is it a kernel or user space issue?
A long time ago, dzo told us that this could be solved when nand boot would be ready. Now, that's ready, what avoid solving this problem?
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as I recall the notion was that running from nand would allow us the option of dismounting the sd card from the system so it could be used by USB mass storage. currently, nand still uses a cache on the sd card, so this is not yet possible.
this program allows both the system and the usb mass storage to access the sd card at the same time. I'm sure if someone cared enough to backwards engineer this we could incorporate something similar. however, why bother when there is a perfectly usable program already.

So this won't work using ext2 or fat for haret users I assume?

myn said:
So this won't work using ext2 or fat for haret users I assume?
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I'm running haret on a partitioned card (fat 32 and ext2) and it works great for me - just tested it.

berardi said:
How fast is USB Mass Storage with the Vogue? Does anyone remember the transfer speeds it's rated for?
I'm using a class 6 MicroSD so I guess the card reader method will still be faster for me?
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~500kb write and ~800kb read (with class 4) results may vary

slapadabass said:
I'm running haret on a partitioned card (fat 32 and ext2) and it works great for me - just tested it.
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I confirm this also, running fat32 and 2 512Mb ext2 partitions. this is very handy. I found the 1.65 version doing a Google search, and that is what I have tested.

I would love to find out what this widget is doing so we can add the functionality to the base roms. I haven't had a close look at this yet but does anybody know exactly what it's doing?

jamezelle said:
~500kb write and ~800kb read (with class 4) results may vary
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So correct me if I'm wrong, but it would seem that if your SD card is class 4, this will still be grossly slower than simply taking the card out and using a card reader, no? 800 kb vs 4 mb / sec? or do I have the figures wrong... For small files this is convenient but for large amounts of music files etc it probably is less practical - granted not eveyone has a card reader

berardi said:
So correct me if I'm wrong, but it would seem that if your SD card is class 4, this will still be grossly slower than simply taking the card out and using a card reader, no? 800 kb vs 4 mb / sec? or do I have the figures wrong... For small files this is convenient but for large amounts of music files etc it probably is less practical - granted not eveyone has a card reader
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Right - unless you're running off SD card and can't take your SD card out . . .

[Q] Questions about Honeycomb on a 16GB SD

I was just trying out Honeycomb and found some weird issues.
First and most disturbing question is, Why is my 16GB SD card now recognized as 128 MB SD card in everything I put it in? Is there a fix for this? I would love to have the full 16 GB accessible since being able to dual boot would be the best of both worlds.
I can now do ADB which I could not do before but now I cannot access the Nook through USB. With a Autonootered 1.1 it was the opposite. <--not really a question.
Also, when if every will there be a full Android Market? With Autonootered 1.1 it was extreamly limited and would only show the top 10 results even when it said there were about 150 or so results. With Honeycomb it shows all of the results the Market says it found. There are still a lot of apps missing from the market. I only see free ones. Some of my other research found that the full market is only available to phones with 3g or only certain phones.
Thanks in advance.

You need to reformat your sd. Do it using another android phone or do it in a pc. Reformat to the full size. There are two cwr flashes, a big one and a small one. It sounds like you used the smaller one
Sent from one of those missing Droids

Found the question on about page 95 (posted by Breakthecycle2) and found a cryptic answer on page 99 (by donhu) of the Honeycomb preview image thread.
Here is a boiled down guide
Download EASEUS Partion Manager
Install it and open it
With the SD card in your computer it should show up along with your computer's HD.
Select the SD card. You will see all of the partitions of the SD card.
What you want to do is to select the SD Card partition
Right click and select resize/move then drag the right hand side to make it as big as you want.
This shows up as SD card on the File manager and you can now use it to store what you want.
Hope this helped

[Q] A few Noob questions

I searched around and can't seem to find an answer to my question. I just got the Nook Color and I own the original Nook also. I'm planning to run CM7 from the Sd card for now and I have soom questions.
1. Can you use the SD card for storing books and other files while it's being used to run CM7?
2. If I have books already purchased from B&N on the Color will I be able to access them and if not, is there a way to make them available while running off the SD card?
3. While running from the SD card what happens when a new update from B&N launches? I know on the original one that I have rooted I leave the wifi off so they don't push the updates to the device.
4. This one has nothing to do with rooting. I want to change my email address that I have setup in my B&N account. I have two Nooks registered including the new Color Nook. Can I just change the address on the B&N website? Will I loose access to any books already bought using the old address?
Thanks for any help and a big thanks to this forum for all the info available on it!

To answer your questions:
1. Yes
2. Yes. You can install the Nook app for android and have access to your complete library. You may just have to download them again. I haven't used the Nook app enough to see if I can point it to a location on the Nook's internal memory. Also, the Nook app for android does not play the "read to me" books.
3. When running CM7 from the SD card, you will not be susceptible to BN pushed updates.
4. I'm not sure. You may have to contact BN directly for that one.

To clarify, you will not need to root your Nook to run CM7 from the SD. Or any OS from the SD. The SD card acts like an old windows Boot Disk if you remember those. It contains your entire OS. Simply pop it out slightly and turn on your Nook and you will be booted into non-rooted standard B&N OS. This is critical to me since my daughter loves the Read To Me books(she is 18 months). By running CM7 from the SD you are able to keep your Nook(and thus your warranty) completely unaltered. There is even a way to put B&N stock on your SD card and run CM7 internally tho it's a little to early for me to try it, many have had success doing that.

Thanks for the replies. I guess my only remaining question is;
I have a 16g class4 Sandisk card, if I use it is the entire 16g available for use or does it get partitioned and only the remaining space on the OS partition is available?
As for question 4, I called B&N and I had to deregister both devices, change the email on the website and then re-register both. Eveything is like it was before, except if you have anything that you sideloaded to the internal memory of the original Nook, you loose it. I had everything on an SD card so I lost nothing.

[Q] CM10 vs Rooted Stock: Which & Why?

This is essentially the final thing I'm wondering in this Nook HD(+) development world. It seems that the two main options are opening up the stock Nook by enabling the Play store and all the benefits that go with that or CM10 which is essentially turning your Nook in to a Jellybean device.
For me, the clear winner is rooting Stock. For one, I have an HD which means 8gb of storage. I really don't want to tie up my Micro sd slot with an operating system. Also, it's nice to be able to get back to the Nook screen simply as I think its default library function is great for books.
I know CM10 is very popular, and since I am still figuring it out I'd love to hear which method people are using and why.

For me, so far, rooted is better. However, CM is quite feature rich, and once completely stable I suspect I might switch over. I'm interested in more file systems and overclocking for instance.
I've used both to date, and everything you can do on stock+ you can do in CM, except the built in reader (although the Play version is very close) and the app drawer widget. Profiles are nicely implemented on stock too, so that might be important for some family uses.
As for the internal memory, you can get to that now with CM10. And SD cards are fast enough you don't notice any lag. Also, with stock there's always the chance you'll bork something in /system and enter the bootloop issue without a CWM recovery nearby...

dbh369 said:
For me, so far, rooted is better. However, CM is quite feature rich, and once completely stable I suspect I might switch over. I'm interested in more file systems and overclocking for instance.
I've used both to date, and everything you can do on stock+ you can do in CM, except the built in reader (although the Play version is very close) and the app drawer widget. Profiles are nicely implemented on stock too, so that might be important for some family uses.
As for the internal memory, you can get to that now with CM10. And SD cards are fast enough you don't notice any lag. Also, with stock there's always the chance you'll bork something in /system and enter the bootloop issue without a CWM recovery nearby...
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Great points all around. What do you mean that I can "get to internal memory on CM10"?
My goal would be to be able to use the portion of an SD card that's not tied up with CM10 as EXternal memory.
I haven't played much with CM10 as it runs poorly from my SD card.
One more thing to note, stock+ isn't recognized by android file manager. I'll have to see if CM10 is.

captainmccool said:
Great points all around. What do you mean that I can "get to internal memory on CM10"?
My goal would be to be able to use the portion of an SD card that's not tied up with CM10 as EXternal memory.
I haven't played much with CM10 as it runs poorly from my SD card.
One more thing to note, stock+ isn't recognized by android file manager. I'll have to see if CM10 is.
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My take on the situation is that rooted stock is nice (ESP the reader app), but it will not run everything. One case in point, Google Voice. I use it for free texting over wifi. It will not run on rooted stock.
And what he meant about get into internal memory is the media partition (called sdcard in stock) shows up as emmc media storage in CM10.
And what you want is already implemented in CM10. It partitions what it does not need for itself to operate and makes it available for sdcard media. It usually reserves about 3GB for itself and makes the rest of the card available as media space for CM10 use. And it is possible to have stock see that too with the right modifications to stock configuration. But it does you no good since you cannot boot to stock with the CM10 SD in the slot anyway.
What is stock+ that you want recognized? And what is android file manager?
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD

I have a short brief on CM10, and here is my take.
both:
have bugs, some apps working well on one but not another.
CM10:
More freedom, a lot more apps open up and works, and no need to worry about apps that mess with /system.
You lose some sd spaces, and inability to swap sd.
stock:
Required a lot of mod just to get 80-90% of what you can do with cm10
sd card swapable
doesn't work with cm10 sd card, I guess it can but you do need to mod.

Most of the pros and cons have been covered above and my experience is that both can get you to the features most important to you one way or another so it comes down to personal preferences and usage patterns.
For me, the difference came down to keeping stock clean and getting CM10 separate on an SD card. I can pop the SD card out and use my Nook in BN store or sell it without any issues. I did plenty of rooting and re-imaging on my Nook Color before this and I could never get it to a clean factory state again. Even when I cleaned everything and installed stock, Cyanogen logo would still show up on boot.
With my Nook HD I decided to keep the stock image clean.

I'd like to add on CM10, I haven't been able to transfer any programs to the internal sd. Used titanium backup and the os option for it. No go. If anyone knows a way let me know but I had an easier time installing everything with my rooted Nook HD than on CM10.

Diogenes5 said:
I'd like to add on CM10, I haven't been able to transfer any programs to the internal sd. Used titanium backup and the os option for it. No go. If anyone knows a way let me know but I had an easier time installing everything with my rooted Nook HD than on CM10.
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I don't think that option is available for any device to move an app to internal SD. They always have to be an external SD (apps2SD). And you can install them to the external SD with CM10. So I don't know what you mean by easier on rooted stock.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD

leapinlar said:
I don't think that option is available for any device to move an app to internal SD. They always have to be an external SD (apps2SD). And you can install them to the external SD with CM10. So I don't know what you mean by easier on rooted stock.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
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I meant to external SD. I tried the moving to SD options on both titanium pro and within the is and it doesn't do it despite saying that it does. I am stuck on the 2gb partition that cm gives me.
Sent from my Barnes & Noble Nook HD using Tapatalk HD

Diogenes5 said:
I meant to external SD. I tried the moving to SD options on both titanium pro and within the is and it doesn't do it despite saying that it does. I am stuck on the 2gb partition that cm gives me.
Sent from my Barnes & Noble Nook HD using Tapatalk HD
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How do you know it does not do it? Mine does. I used the settings/app to do it. They are no longer in /data/app they are in /mnt/asec which is the new way of storing on SD.
And 2GB is not enough? You must have a lot of very large apps.
Sent from my BNTV400 using Tapatalk

I'd go for rooting the stock. CM10 works great but its reader lacks the funtion of Nook's original. I read a lot of PDF textbooks and there's just no good PDF reader, yes, szpdf included that can render as fast and stably as Nook's, not to mention the built in dictionary function.

In my experience, the stock PDF reader falls way short in zooming department. If you use ezPDF, you can double tap the text and it zooms the text perfectly cutting off the margins. Stock does something random altogether. That is a small problem though. Bigger problem is that you have to repeat zooming on each page. ezPDF remembers your zoom and then you can easily go through the rest of your PDF at the same zoom setting. This allows me to read a lot of my PDF's in portrait mode. If you use landscape then you don't really need zooming but it does come in handy.
And for my PDF's I have not noticed a speed difference between stock and ezPDF.
Also, I did not know there was a dictionary in the stock PDF reader app. I will have to try it sometime.

Stock
stock is better in my opinion. I just bought a Nook HD like a week ago and compared to other android devices, it seems faster. I got it rooted and everything and i started thinking about CM 10. I have CM 10.1 on my Samsung Fascinate, and I love the features but its always got a very low battery life and I also did not know how to unbrick a Nook. I read many comments about CM 10/10.1 for Nook HD and the battery life was an issue. So in conclusion I decided to stay on stock with root and GApps and all.

[Q] CM10 - boot from sdcard - but entire system running off of the emmc - can it work

I use CM10 booting off of an sdcard 32 gig.
It is terrific and I like using that a lot, but things run a lot slower than stock.
I also rooted the stock system, and that works too, but there are small issues like the white on white ( I am using the fix ) and it still doesn't look good. Another issue is that the settings for Nook HD+ are the worst. This system runs very fast though.
So, I like CM10, but it runs slow. I dislike rooted stock, but it runs very quick.
Is there a way to boot the system off of an sdcard, but the entire system ( CM10 ) runs on the internal memory of the Nook HD+?
I would think this could work. One issue, that I think we might have is, if you boot without the sdcard, the standard Nook boot sequence will reboot your machine 8 times, and wipe away the os...but...that's what clockworkmod is for, making a backup, from time to time.
Is this possible?
Rob

rplourdejr said:
I use CM10 booting off of an sdcard 32 gig.
It is terrific and I like using that a lot, but things run a lot slower than stock.
I also rooted the stock system, and that works too, but there are small issues like the white on white ( I am using the fix ) and it still doesn't look good. Another issue is that the settings for Nook HD+ are the worst. This system runs very fast though.
So, I like CM10, but it runs slow. I dislike rooted stock, but it runs very quick.
Is there a way to boot the system off of an sdcard, but the entire system ( CM10 ) runs on the internal memory of the Nook HD+?
I would think this could work. One issue, that I think we might have is, if you boot without the sdcard, the standard Nook boot sequence will reboot your machine 8 times, and wipe away the os...but...that's what clockworkmod is for, making a backup, from time to time.
Is this possible?
Rob
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Bokbokan has done this on the HD, but no one has done it on the HD+. So yes it is possible. And the reason it runs slow on your card is you have a bad brand SD. If you run it on a good SD it is pretty snappy. Get a SanDisk class 4.
Sent from my stock Nook HD+ using XDA Premium

leapinlar said:
Bokbokan has done this on the HD, but no one has done it on the HD+. So yes it is possible. And the reason it runs slow on your card is you have a bad brand SD. If you run it on a good SD it is pretty snappy. Get a SanDisk class 4.
Sent from my stock Nook HD+ using XDA Premium
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Alternatively, I've benchmarked the Sandisk 64GB ultra at 1.8MB/s random write and 6MB/s random read (4K, QD32). That way, you get the best of both worlds.

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leapinlar said:
Bokbokan has done this on the HD, but no one has done it on the HD+. So yes it is possible. And the reason it runs slow on your card is you have a bad brand SD. If you run it on a good SD it is pretty snappy. Get a SanDisk class 4.
Sent from my stock Nook HD+ using XDA Premium
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I am using the red and gray, SanDisk 32GB, just like everyone else is. There is an uppercase U with a 1 inside of the U, on the device.
Rob

rplourdejr said:
I am using the red and gray, SanDisk 32GB, just like everyone else is. There is an uppercase U with a 1 inside of the U, on the device.
Rob
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That's odd. I have the 64GB one with a similar speed rating and it runs like a dream. Do you use Windows? I installed mine using the "CM10 sdcard Installer" and replaced (and renamed) the ROM with "cm-10-20130101-UNOFFICIAL-hummingbird.zip" after flashing the installer image but before inserting the card into the Nook.
Might I suggest you take a backup image of your whole card using whatever disk imaging software you use, format it, run a speed test in CrystalDiskMark, post the results and, if it proves to handle random writes at a reasonable speed, try a clean install? I'm not an expert but it seems like that would be the best way of seeing whether the card is at fault or the installation without losing your current one.

AF85 said:
That's odd. I have the 64GB one with a similar speed rating and it runs like a dream. Do you use Windows? I installed mine using the "CM10 sdcard Installer" and replaced (and renamed) the ROM with "cm-10-20130101-UNOFFICIAL-hummingbird.zip" after flashing the installer image but before inserting the card into the Nook.
Might I suggest you take a backup image of your whole card using whatever disk imaging software you use, format it, run a speed test in CrystalDiskMark, post the results and, if it proves to handle random writes at a reasonable speed, try a clean install? I'm not an expert but it seems like that would be the best way of seeing whether the card is at fault or the installation without losing your current one.
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Hmmm...maybe I should define what I mean by slow?
I take the SanDisk out, and I reboot. Now I am in Stock Nook Rooted mode.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download is super quick and will take literally a second or two before it's downloaded, updated, and ready.
But...
I put the SanDisk back in, and reboot the system. Now I am in CM10, booted and running off the SanDisk.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download take, perhaps two or three times as long as it did when I did the same thing in Stock Nook Rooted mode?
I like CM10 so much better, so that is what I mostly use, but it seems odd to me that downloads go so much quicker from within the stock system. Of course, whatever I do in Stock, doesn't carry over in CM10.
Rob

rplourdejr said:
Hmmm...maybe I should define what I mean by slow?
I take the SanDisk out, and I reboot. Now I am in Stock Nook Rooted mode.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download is super quick and will take literally a second or two before it's downloaded, updated, and ready.
But...
I put the SanDisk back in, and reboot the system. Now I am in CM10, booted and running off the SanDisk.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download take, perhaps two or three times as long as it did when I did the same thing in Stock Nook Rooted mode?
I like CM10 so much better, so that is what I mostly use, but it seems odd to me that downloads go so much quicker from within the stock system. Of course, whatever I do in Stock, doesn't carry over in CM10.
Rob
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This is a pure guess but it could be that the stock is much more stripped down than CM10. What happens when you run a connection speed test (like speedtest.net)?

AF85 said:
This is a pure guess but it could be that the stock is much more stripped down than CM10. What happens when you run a connection speed test (like speedtest.net)?
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Interesting results.
I used an app called How The Grinch Stole...you know the title.
Using Stock setup, from Google App Store, this download of 29.16 Meg, took 27.5 seconds to download and install.
Using CM10 booting from SanDisk, same file, same Google App Store, 29.16 Meg actually took 1 minute 32 seconds to download and install.
Yes, I typed that in correct...1 minute 32 seconds for CM10, 27.5 seconds for Stock Nook.
Huh??? This does not make any sense.
I then tried the speedtest.net app on both systems. Pretty much identical, in all the different download and uploads tests I did, all to the same server, using both Stock Nook, and CM10 Nook.
I then thought...hmmm...perhaps I am not using the same Google Store App?
Both systems have google play services at 2.0.12-543433-10
Both systems have google play store 3.10.10
For Google Services Framework, Stock has 4.0.4-299849 and CM10 has 4.0.4-338691.
Still don't understand why downloading and installing from CM10 is so slow, and Stock is so much quicker.
Both systems did not have the Grinch app ever installed before, so it cannot be that.
At this point, I do not think it's setup, but it sure is strange.
Thanks for everyones feedback on this.
Rob

As far as Play Store downloading slower, it uses a folder in /data to temporarily hold the download file before it installs it. /data on stock is on emmc and /data on CM10 is on SD. So your card's speed characteristics could be effecting how quickly it downloads.
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leapinlar said:
As far as Play Store downloading slower, it uses a folder in /data to temporarily hold the download file before it installs it. /data on stock is on emmc and /data on CM10 is on SD. So your card's speed characteristics could be effecting how quickly it downloads.
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I tried using Crystal Disk Mark program, but I could not get it to see the drives on either Stock Nook or CM10. I can easily see the drives in Windows but they do not have drive letters and it seems Crystal Disk Mark only wants drive letters???
I could not get sdtools to work on my stock rooted nook. Kept complaining about failed write buffer.
It did work on CM10. I got 6.4MB/s write speed, and 18.8MB/s read speed.
Does that say anything useful?
Rob

rplourdejr said:
I tried using Crystal Disk Mark program, but I could not get it to see the drives on either Stock Nook or CM10. I can easily see the drives in Windows but they do not have drive letters
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That is because both CM10 and stock uses MTP protocol to display the drives in Windows. It is a media protocol meant for music files, but Android decided to use it by default instead of USB mass storage which uses drive letters. MTP shows the drives as portable devices like an MP3 player would show. CM10 usually has the option available to switch to USB mass storage mode, but it does not work on our devices.
Someone else must answer about the speeds you registered.
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rplourdejr said:
Hmmm...maybe I should define what I mean by slow?
I take the SanDisk out, and I reboot. Now I am in Stock Nook Rooted mode.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download is super quick and will take literally a second or two before it's downloaded, updated, and ready.
But...
I put the SanDisk back in, and reboot the system. Now I am in CM10, booted and running off the SanDisk.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download take, perhaps two or three times as long as it did when I did the same thing in Stock Nook Rooted mode?
I like CM10 so much better, so that is what I mostly use, but it seems odd to me that downloads go so much quicker from within the stock system. Of course, whatever I do in Stock, doesn't carry over in CM10.
Rob
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I know that 'later' versions of Android have a check on PLAY downloads that didn't exist in ICS. Could that be the problem?