This is essentially the final thing I'm wondering in this Nook HD(+) development world. It seems that the two main options are opening up the stock Nook by enabling the Play store and all the benefits that go with that or CM10 which is essentially turning your Nook in to a Jellybean device.
For me, the clear winner is rooting Stock. For one, I have an HD which means 8gb of storage. I really don't want to tie up my Micro sd slot with an operating system. Also, it's nice to be able to get back to the Nook screen simply as I think its default library function is great for books.
I know CM10 is very popular, and since I am still figuring it out I'd love to hear which method people are using and why.
For me, so far, rooted is better. However, CM is quite feature rich, and once completely stable I suspect I might switch over. I'm interested in more file systems and overclocking for instance.
I've used both to date, and everything you can do on stock+ you can do in CM, except the built in reader (although the Play version is very close) and the app drawer widget. Profiles are nicely implemented on stock too, so that might be important for some family uses.
As for the internal memory, you can get to that now with CM10. And SD cards are fast enough you don't notice any lag. Also, with stock there's always the chance you'll bork something in /system and enter the bootloop issue without a CWM recovery nearby...
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For me, so far, rooted is better. However, CM is quite feature rich, and once completely stable I suspect I might switch over. I'm interested in more file systems and overclocking for instance.
I've used both to date, and everything you can do on stock+ you can do in CM, except the built in reader (although the Play version is very close) and the app drawer widget. Profiles are nicely implemented on stock too, so that might be important for some family uses.
As for the internal memory, you can get to that now with CM10. And SD cards are fast enough you don't notice any lag. Also, with stock there's always the chance you'll bork something in /system and enter the bootloop issue without a CWM recovery nearby...
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Great points all around. What do you mean that I can "get to internal memory on CM10"?
My goal would be to be able to use the portion of an SD card that's not tied up with CM10 as EXternal memory.
I haven't played much with CM10 as it runs poorly from my SD card.
One more thing to note, stock+ isn't recognized by android file manager. I'll have to see if CM10 is.
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Great points all around. What do you mean that I can "get to internal memory on CM10"?
My goal would be to be able to use the portion of an SD card that's not tied up with CM10 as EXternal memory.
I haven't played much with CM10 as it runs poorly from my SD card.
One more thing to note, stock+ isn't recognized by android file manager. I'll have to see if CM10 is.
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My take on the situation is that rooted stock is nice (ESP the reader app), but it will not run everything. One case in point, Google Voice. I use it for free texting over wifi. It will not run on rooted stock.
And what he meant about get into internal memory is the media partition (called sdcard in stock) shows up as emmc media storage in CM10.
And what you want is already implemented in CM10. It partitions what it does not need for itself to operate and makes it available for sdcard media. It usually reserves about 3GB for itself and makes the rest of the card available as media space for CM10 use. And it is possible to have stock see that too with the right modifications to stock configuration. But it does you no good since you cannot boot to stock with the CM10 SD in the slot anyway.
What is stock+ that you want recognized? And what is android file manager?
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
I have a short brief on CM10, and here is my take.
both:
have bugs, some apps working well on one but not another.
CM10:
More freedom, a lot more apps open up and works, and no need to worry about apps that mess with /system.
You lose some sd spaces, and inability to swap sd.
stock:
Required a lot of mod just to get 80-90% of what you can do with cm10
sd card swapable
doesn't work with cm10 sd card, I guess it can but you do need to mod.
Most of the pros and cons have been covered above and my experience is that both can get you to the features most important to you one way or another so it comes down to personal preferences and usage patterns.
For me, the difference came down to keeping stock clean and getting CM10 separate on an SD card. I can pop the SD card out and use my Nook in BN store or sell it without any issues. I did plenty of rooting and re-imaging on my Nook Color before this and I could never get it to a clean factory state again. Even when I cleaned everything and installed stock, Cyanogen logo would still show up on boot.
With my Nook HD I decided to keep the stock image clean.
I'd like to add on CM10, I haven't been able to transfer any programs to the internal sd. Used titanium backup and the os option for it. No go. If anyone knows a way let me know but I had an easier time installing everything with my rooted Nook HD than on CM10.
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I'd like to add on CM10, I haven't been able to transfer any programs to the internal sd. Used titanium backup and the os option for it. No go. If anyone knows a way let me know but I had an easier time installing everything with my rooted Nook HD than on CM10.
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I don't think that option is available for any device to move an app to internal SD. They always have to be an external SD (apps2SD). And you can install them to the external SD with CM10. So I don't know what you mean by easier on rooted stock.
Sent from my Nook HD+ Running CM10 on SD
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I don't think that option is available for any device to move an app to internal SD. They always have to be an external SD (apps2SD). And you can install them to the external SD with CM10. So I don't know what you mean by easier on rooted stock.
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I meant to external SD. I tried the moving to SD options on both titanium pro and within the is and it doesn't do it despite saying that it does. I am stuck on the 2gb partition that cm gives me.
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I meant to external SD. I tried the moving to SD options on both titanium pro and within the is and it doesn't do it despite saying that it does. I am stuck on the 2gb partition that cm gives me.
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How do you know it does not do it? Mine does. I used the settings/app to do it. They are no longer in /data/app they are in /mnt/asec which is the new way of storing on SD.
And 2GB is not enough? You must have a lot of very large apps.
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I'd go for rooting the stock. CM10 works great but its reader lacks the funtion of Nook's original. I read a lot of PDF textbooks and there's just no good PDF reader, yes, szpdf included that can render as fast and stably as Nook's, not to mention the built in dictionary function.
In my experience, the stock PDF reader falls way short in zooming department. If you use ezPDF, you can double tap the text and it zooms the text perfectly cutting off the margins. Stock does something random altogether. That is a small problem though. Bigger problem is that you have to repeat zooming on each page. ezPDF remembers your zoom and then you can easily go through the rest of your PDF at the same zoom setting. This allows me to read a lot of my PDF's in portrait mode. If you use landscape then you don't really need zooming but it does come in handy.
And for my PDF's I have not noticed a speed difference between stock and ezPDF.
Also, I did not know there was a dictionary in the stock PDF reader app. I will have to try it sometime.
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stock is better in my opinion. I just bought a Nook HD like a week ago and compared to other android devices, it seems faster. I got it rooted and everything and i started thinking about CM 10. I have CM 10.1 on my Samsung Fascinate, and I love the features but its always got a very low battery life and I also did not know how to unbrick a Nook. I read many comments about CM 10/10.1 for Nook HD and the battery life was an issue. So in conclusion I decided to stay on stock with root and GApps and all.
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Ive done a little bit of searching and cant seem to find a thread about this (im sure there is one but i cant find it) so my question is which of the three do you like? i know there are pros and cons to all of them but i dont really know what to go with. any suggestions?
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Ive done a little bit of searching and cant seem to find a thread about this (im sure there is one but i cant find it) so my question is which of the three do you like? i know there are pros and cons to all of them but i dont really know what to go with. any suggestions?
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For me, rooted stock was definitely the easiest. It's the easiest to get working. For me' froyo was still not completely usable as it doesn't include Gapps and it's kinda funky getting them on there. Then nothing really works on honeycomb (and by that I mean downloaded apps) so if you just want to browse the interwebs that's the one for you. Froyo is if you want everything Android offers, but you better know what you"re doing. So IMO stock is the easiest and the prettiest, with honeycomb being second, and Froyo being third.
I can't speak to Froyo, but I've got the HC v04 preview running on eMMC (not SD card), and for me it is very stable.
I've got access to the market, apps seem to install fine (haven't had one fail yet, but I hear some do), and B&N works great.
Even better, the kernal included in the package I used was already OC'd to 1.1Mhz, and I'm consistently getting 1,500 to 1,600 on Quadrant.
Much better performance than I was getting on my stock Nook.
It's not perfect, and I've had to do a few tweaks (found on this site) in order to get the market working, and adhock wireless networks to show up...but for me the total install was really smooth.
The only problem I currently have is that I cannot get applications to transfer from eMMC to my SD card, so I'm running out of space to install more apps.
No way would I go back to stock...what I've got now works really well for everyday use, and will only get netter once Honeycomb goes GA.
If you do decide to "upgrade" your stock Nook, just remember that it's not a "sure deal", and that there are no guarantees things will work. While I haven't had to do so, I understand that restoring your Nook to stock is a bit of a chore, so make sure you read the "back to stock" threads before you decide to modify your Nook.
If you do decide to go with either Froyo or HC...just remember to follow instructions exactly!
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I can't speak to Froyo, but I've got the HC v04 preview running on eMMC (not SD card), and for me it is very stable.
I've got access to the market, apps seem to install fine (haven't had one fail yet, but I hear some do), and B&N works great.
Even better, the kernal included in the package I used was already OC'd to 1.1Mhz, and I'm consistently getting 1,500 to 1,600 on Quadrant.
Much better performance than I was getting on my stock Nook.
It's not perfect, and I've had to do a few tweaks (found on this site) in order to get the market working, and adhock wireless networks to show up...but for me the total install was really smooth.
The only problem I currently have is that I cannot get applications to transfer from eMMC to my SD card, so I'm running out of space to install more apps.
No way would I go back to stock...what I've got now works really well for everyday use, and will only get netter once Honeycomb goes GA.
If you do decide to "upgrade" your stock Nook, just remember that it's not a "sure deal", and that there are no guarantees things will work. While I haven't had to do so, I understand that restoring your Nook to stock is a bit of a chore, so make sure you read the "back to stock" threads before you decide to modify your Nook.
If you do decide to go with either Froyo or HC...just remember to follow instructions exactly!
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yo, deadly, chill down a bit...nook is very hard to brick and destroy..
Since OP is here, on XDA, I suppose he knows enough to continue...
It is not so hard, trust me, pick one and try, you can start witk stock rooted...Then you will find annoying the way apps are starting, or eclair itself...So, you go and try froyo (on emmc, ofcourse), which is the closest thing to phone froyo feeling, and you'll use it happily until...One day you decide to try something new, and that would be HC...
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I can't speak to Froyo, but I've got the HC v04 preview running on eMMC (not SD card), and for me it is very stable.
I've got access to the market, apps seem to install fine (haven't had one fail yet, but I hear some do), and B&N works great.
Even better, the kernal included in the package I used was already OC'd to 1.1Mhz, and I'm consistently getting 1,500 to 1,600 on Quadrant.
Much better performance than I was getting on my stock Nook.
It's not perfect, and I've had to do a few tweaks (found on this site) in order to get the market working, and adhock wireless networks to show up...but for me the total install was really smooth.
The only problem I currently have is that I cannot get applications to transfer from eMMC to my SD card, so I'm running out of space to install more apps.
No way would I go back to stock...what I've got now works really well for everyday use, and will only get netter once Honeycomb goes GA.
If you do decide to "upgrade" your stock Nook, just remember that it's not a "sure deal", and that there are no guarantees things will work. While I haven't had to do so, I understand that restoring your Nook to stock is a bit of a chore, so make sure you read the "back to stock" threads before you decide to modify your Nook.
If you do decide to go with either Froyo or HC...just remember to follow instructions exactly!
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Out of curiosity, what do you mean that B&N works great? Are you just talking about the Nook app from the market, or the stock B&N apps that come with the Nook when you first get it. I was under the assumption that those would be lost with any install of Honeycomb or Froyo, which has kept me from making that jump.
im leaning toward HC cuz i dont mind difficult because i enjoy doing this kind of stuff but my worry is widgets and a few apps has anyone used circle launcher or gbcoid or gameboid or any other emulator on this?
edit: also any luck on videos working? like rockplayer or yxplayer?
Rockplayer works well , NESoid works well, gonnna try pSX tonight.
Honey 4 on emmc.
@deadly read thru the emmc thread, the answer is there. Root explorer change permissions.
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im leaning toward HC cuz i dont mind difficult because i enjoy doing this kind of stuff but my worry is widgets and a few apps has anyone used circle launcher or gbcoid or gameboid or any other emulator on this?
edit: also any luck on videos working? like rockplayer or yxplayer?
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As far as I know none of the alternate builds currently support hardware-accelerated video playback, so your only real option for smooth fullscreen video is the (rooted or not) B&N Nook image. If anyone has gotten this working on a different build please let us know.
Honeycomb has a few issues, for example accelerometer input being rotated 90% in some games, and occasionally tiny hard-to-read onscreen text since it's configured for a non-native pixel density to fit the 1280x800 UI on the Nook's smaller screen. It's fun for testing and ok as a daily environment if your important apps all happen to work, but you should expect things to break.
By "B&N works great", I meant that I'm running the B&N reader from the market. Personally I like it better than the stock Nook reader.
@djurkash: As you say, "It's not so hard...", I was up and running in an hour or so. Sorry if you felt I was trying to scare anyone away. I really like what I've got...but I have also noted a bit of "HC mania", and not everyone bothers to RTFM. If someone reads through this site, and feels comfortable with the process...I hope they go for it! I'm glad I did.
@jonrobertd: I'd read through the emmc thread, and didn't see anything that addressed moving apps. I just went back through and searched on "Root Explorer" and "permissions", but didn't see anything that looked like it would help. I'm probably missing something obvious, but any assistance you could offer would be greatly appreciated (I do have Root Explorer installed and working).
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Rockplayer works well , NESoid works well, gonnna try pSX tonight.
Honey 4 on emmc.
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@jonrobertd, I just tried Rockplayer on HC v4 off SD (not overclocked), it runs at 12-15fps according to its built-in counter for original size, a bit slower for fullscreen video ([email protected], baseline H264 from Handbrake). Is that significantly better with the overclocked version? Currently it's usable but looks noticeably jerky. Of course, dual-booting to use the stock player would be a fallback option.
I have only had my nook now for 4 days so I am in no way going to put down any build. But from a new users opinion I have installed and messed with all three releases (stock rooted) (froyo) (honeycomb) And I LOVED honeycomb.
I was happy with it for a short time though due to no flash. Youtube app was a no go and the web youtube worked but was whacky.
I then went back to stock rooted and put on ADW ex. Everything just works! I am completely happy with stock running ADW until honeycomb gets more refined.
And I cant wait for that to happen because it looks very nice and is a much better user experience on the nook.
Rockplayer is much better off of eMMC and overclocked. As to running HC off SD I
can see it being slower, as the card speeds can vary.
For root explorer, I am using version 2.13.3 it works to give R/W permissions. (PM me if needed)
Apps installing to SD, use the following:
Also I follow Samuelhaff's advice and change the permissions on newsf_msdos on the /system/bin and now almost all applications install with few fails. I did it a risky way though, since I don't have ADB access I just rightclicked the file with Root Explorer, chose permissions and click in all 9 boxes, worked for me but it may be risky.
Doing this gave the me option to move to SD. I have ADB working, was just on the nook so I did it with R.E. and it worked.
If you need any more help pm me or ask here.
I have used all three (rooted stock, Nookie Froyo, and Honeycomb v4), and I am currently using a dual boot setup with stock on eMMC and NF on a microSD card. I am using rookie1's awesome multi-u-boot which allows me to choose to boot from either the SD or the eMMC at startup by pressing the home button. Stock is good for daily use, and NF is good for more cutting-edge stuff (Flash being one example). I'll probably use Honeycomb once the biggest bugs are ironed out, which will probably be after HC goes AOSP. In any case, the Nook Color has three great operating systems that you can choose from. It can't hurt to try, even if you decide to burn to eMMC instead of running off an SDcard the Nook Color is [very] hard to brick.
I just installed Sam's custom HC for emmc last night and I have to say that this is my favorite of the three options. It runs much smoother than I expected. Overall, I was not a big fan of froyo, the performance for the most part was great but I always had touch issues and keyboard lag.
1.) Sam's custom HC v4
2.) Rooted Stock 1.1
3.) Nookie Froyo emmc
I like the stock rom better, easier to root too. I've tried the HC on SD works fine but harder to setup for new nookies
i went ahead and went with HC last night and it is great so smooth and so clean the lock screen alone is just so nice, although i wish it had flash and rock player plays really choppy on my .avi anime but thats ok i can watch it on my phone. thanx guys for all you help and suggestions anyone that wants to post suggestions please do im sure there are people just like me looking for the awnsers this topic can provide
I've had my NC for a few weeks now am itching to try Froyo or Honeycomb. Something that is important to me though is the Readtome childrens books. My 3 year old really likes them. Does the market B&N appt work with these books? If not, is there a way to still use them on either Froyo or Hobeycomb (HC preferred)?
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As far as I can tell the Read To Me books only work on the app on the NC. But that's no reason not to try Froyo or HC. Just try one of the SD image versions. That's what I've been doing. Booting off SD doesn't affect whatever you have loaded on the internal memory. Going back to the B&N stock ROM is just as simple as powering down your NC, popping out the bootable SD card, popping back in your regular SD card (if you have one) and powering the NC back on.
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As far as I can tell the Read To Me books only work on the app on the NC. But that's no reason not to try Froyo or HC. Just try one of the SD image versions. That's what I've been doing. Booting off SD doesn't affect whatever you have loaded on the internal memory. Going back to the B&N stock ROM is just as simple as powering down your NC, popping out the bootable SD card, popping back in your regular SD card (if you have one) and powering the NC back on.
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I did not know you can do that with the SD card. Im going to see about doing that when I get home. Thanks.
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I searched around and can't seem to find an answer to my question. I just got the Nook Color and I own the original Nook also. I'm planning to run CM7 from the Sd card for now and I have soom questions.
1. Can you use the SD card for storing books and other files while it's being used to run CM7?
2. If I have books already purchased from B&N on the Color will I be able to access them and if not, is there a way to make them available while running off the SD card?
3. While running from the SD card what happens when a new update from B&N launches? I know on the original one that I have rooted I leave the wifi off so they don't push the updates to the device.
4. This one has nothing to do with rooting. I want to change my email address that I have setup in my B&N account. I have two Nooks registered including the new Color Nook. Can I just change the address on the B&N website? Will I loose access to any books already bought using the old address?
Thanks for any help and a big thanks to this forum for all the info available on it!
To answer your questions:
1. Yes
2. Yes. You can install the Nook app for android and have access to your complete library. You may just have to download them again. I haven't used the Nook app enough to see if I can point it to a location on the Nook's internal memory. Also, the Nook app for android does not play the "read to me" books.
3. When running CM7 from the SD card, you will not be susceptible to BN pushed updates.
4. I'm not sure. You may have to contact BN directly for that one.
To clarify, you will not need to root your Nook to run CM7 from the SD. Or any OS from the SD. The SD card acts like an old windows Boot Disk if you remember those. It contains your entire OS. Simply pop it out slightly and turn on your Nook and you will be booted into non-rooted standard B&N OS. This is critical to me since my daughter loves the Read To Me books(she is 18 months). By running CM7 from the SD you are able to keep your Nook(and thus your warranty) completely unaltered. There is even a way to put B&N stock on your SD card and run CM7 internally tho it's a little to early for me to try it, many have had success doing that.
Thanks for the replies. I guess my only remaining question is;
I have a 16g class4 Sandisk card, if I use it is the entire 16g available for use or does it get partitioned and only the remaining space on the OS partition is available?
As for question 4, I called B&N and I had to deregister both devices, change the email on the website and then re-register both. Eveything is like it was before, except if you have anything that you sideloaded to the internal memory of the original Nook, you loose it. I had everything on an SD card so I lost nothing.
I had some trouble installing CM7 in my last posts. Now I have one for both my wife and I . We are not into Netflix, flash or anything fancy, just want to be able to install apps from Google Market like Angry Birds and install apps like my Office Viewer.
I have very successfully installed custom ROMs on my GTablet but I want to keep it easy on my Nooks, which both at 1.3.0. The new one has the 1 GB data partition so that will need to change. I see 3 main options:
1. Install Manual Nooter.
2. Install CM7 on a uSD.
3. Install CM7 on the nook.
Are there any other compelling options that I should consider like Phiremod? My main goal is stability and reliability - this will likely be the only mod I do short of a major Android release down the road. And since I have to apply it to two Nooks, ease of install and maintenance would be nice.
Thanks for suggestions.
Matt
You might want to check out MiUi. It is a different enough experience that it is appealing to some (me included). I am running v 1.9.16 from a microSD card, although most put it on the internal memory.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161914
It tends to be a simpler, stable and a very smooth running interface... especially good if you deal with a limited number of apps since it doesn't use an app drawer but has everything on the main screens (like the iPad).
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You might want to check out MiUi. It is a different enough experience that it is appealing to some (me included). I am running v 1.9.16 from a microSD card, although most put it on the internal memory.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161914
It tends to be a simpler, stable and a very smooth running interface... especially good if you deal with a limited number of apps since it doesn't use an app drawer but has everything on the main screens (like the iPad).
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I would heartily endorse the use of MIUI on an SD Card - it is very easy to implement using the Multiboot installer from here: http://forum.xda developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022786, thus leaving your Nook intact and it runs very smoothly - for me it runs much more smoothly than CM7.
Noob or not, it's a great ROM - I run it from a Sandisk Class 2 16 Gb microSD.
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I would heartily endorse the use of MIUI on an SD Card - it is very easy to implement using the Multiboot installer from here: [code]http://forum.xda-developers.c...omplicated stuff.
Thanks for the suggestion!
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It's important to use a Sandisk card. Otherwise you will be disappointed. There are several threads on this in case you haven't read them. My personal experience has also proved this to be true.
Matt_WhatsAnIPad said:
I had some trouble installing CM7 in my last posts. Now I have one for both my wife and I . We are not into Netflix, flash or anything fancy, just want to be able to install apps from Google Market like Angry Birds and install apps like my Office Viewer.
I have very successfully installed custom ROMs on my GTablet but I want to keep it easy on my Nooks, which both at 1.3.0. The new one has the 1 GB data partition so that will need to change. I see 3 main options:
1. Install Manual Nooter.
2. Install CM7 on a uSD.
3. Install CM7 on the nook.
Are there any other compelling options that I should consider like Phiremod? My main goal is stability and reliability - this will likely be the only mod I do short of a major Android release down the road. And since I have to apply it to two Nooks, ease of install and maintenance would be nice.
Thanks for suggestions.
Matt
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I would suggest that you wait a little longer as the stock NCs will be getting a fairly significant update soon so that they will include Netflix and Hulu and some other B&N store items. It is not clear whether this will also be an upgrade to Gingerbread & I have no idea whether this will change the partitions again.
I have a nook color with stock 1.3 on it. Thinking about rooting it, if I do will I get better web browsing performance?
I tried a nook tablet today and the web browsing experience was night and day. The think was very fast.
If you just root the stock rom, you can at least overclock and/or install different browsers, which should help. If you install CM7 though, you should find a lot more options. I realized I was having some wifi-drop problems (not playing nice with a hidden SSID), but I'm pretty happy with the browsing experience on CM7 now.
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If you just root the stock rom, you can at least overclock and/or install different browsers, which should help. If you install CM7 though, you should find a lot more options. I realized I was having some wifi-drop problems (not playing nice with a hidden SSID), but I'm pretty happy with the browsing experience on CM7 now.
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If I boot CM7 off an SD card will it run slower than just flashing it over the nook software? I feel like it probably will but I don't really want to lose the BNN software.
If you will use a Sandisk class 2 or 4 sd card, I think you will be pleased at the performance.. then you can always decide to replace the stock BN rom if you are sold on CM7.
I run CM Stable 7.1 on a class 4 SANDISK.
It runs really well. I have no Wifi issues on the stable release. I use DOLPHIN HD for browsing.
I also run CM nightly 253 (just for playing around) on a class 4 SANDISK and I have wifi issues.
I was running CM7 n202 off of an 8Gb class 4 Sandisk, and recently switched to n253 from the internal memory. There was a reasonable improvement to speed, although more with navigating the OS than with web-browsing. I never much used the stock browser (only while in the store shopping) and I've also switched over from DolphinHD to Opera - they're both good browsers and pretty snappy, but I'm using Opera pretty exclusively now - it takes a tad bit longer to load on the first launch, but I like the reflow and zooming better, and it /is/ really fast.
The other option (which is what I did) is to copy the stock rom to an SD card and flash CM onto the Nand. It depends on which one you plan to use more.
I wanted the tablet portion more, but I still wanted the ability to view DRM restricted ePub/PDF files.
Any good guides out there to boot CM7 off a SD card? I remember seeing the thread before but now can't seem to find it.
Thanks guys!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Is there any way to get flash on opera on CM7? I cant seem to figure it out.
And whats the best way to read books? I guess I cant use the stock BNN software without taking the SD card out like I could when I had it auto nootered so should I just dl the nook app on the market I guess?
darkhunter139 said:
Is there any way to get flash on opera on CM7? I cant seem to figure it out.
And whats the best way to read books? I guess I cant use the stock BNN software without taking the SD card out like I could when I had it auto nootered so should I just dl the nook app on the market I guess?
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Depends. If you have your own Epub files then Aldiko is good. If you bought B&N books then you can download the Nook app from Market. If you mischievously bought Kindle books then get the Kindle App.
As for Flash in Opera, I don't use Opera so I don't know, however what you can do is get this App(Choose Browser) and when you get to page with flash Choose "Share Page/URL" and then select "Choose Browser" to open the page with the Stock browser.
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darkhunter139 said:
Is there any way to get flash on opera on CM7? I cant seem to figure it out.
And whats the best way to read books? I guess I cant use the stock BNN software without taking the SD card out like I could when I had it auto nootered so should I just dl the nook app on the market I guess?
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If you're running CM7 off uSD you can hold the "n" button while it is booting... it will bring up the boot menu... select eMMC... "Normal" boot and "Boot Now" it will boot you into stock on eMMC... you can read your books with B&N stock firmware and reader
DizzyDen said:
If you're running CM7 off uSD you can hold the "n" button while it is booting... it will bring up the boot menu... select eMMC... "Normal" boot and "Boot Now" it will boot you into stock on eMMC... you can read your books with B&N stock firmware and reader
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Awesome thanks!
jalaram said:
The other option (which is what I did) is to copy the stock rom to an SD card and flash CM onto the Nand. It depends on which one you plan to use more.
I wanted the tablet portion more, but I still wanted the ability to view DRM restricted ePub/PDF files.
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Does the nook stock ROM open files the nook app wont?
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latest stable cm7 release on the old nook color..booted from an 8 gb class 2 sandisk..browsing with Dolphin Mini, which I use for every android thing I have...I hate slow browsing and I'm pleased with the speed.
darkhunter139 said:
Is there any way to get flash on opera on CM7? I cant seem to figure it out.
And whats the best way to read books? I guess I cant use the stock BNN software without taking the SD card out like I could when I had it auto nootered so should I just dl the nook app on the market I guess?
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If I remember correctly there is an option for flash in the standard options in Opera, You have to have Flash Player installed separately though.
dragon_76 said:
Does the nook stock ROM open files the nook app wont?
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I find the Nook App to be superior to Stock (with a slight gripe about categorizing sideloaded ePub format books). When you put CM7 on your Nook, you need to then download the Nook app from the marketplace (free). You enter your account info and then it will sync all of your purchased books from B&N. The Nook and Aldiko reader apps are better than the stock Nook reader app (nook page turn animations, both have more brightness settings which is great for night reading, Aldiko seems easier to load ePub books and offers more bookshelf customizations)
I use CM10 booting off of an sdcard 32 gig.
It is terrific and I like using that a lot, but things run a lot slower than stock.
I also rooted the stock system, and that works too, but there are small issues like the white on white ( I am using the fix ) and it still doesn't look good. Another issue is that the settings for Nook HD+ are the worst. This system runs very fast though.
So, I like CM10, but it runs slow. I dislike rooted stock, but it runs very quick.
Is there a way to boot the system off of an sdcard, but the entire system ( CM10 ) runs on the internal memory of the Nook HD+?
I would think this could work. One issue, that I think we might have is, if you boot without the sdcard, the standard Nook boot sequence will reboot your machine 8 times, and wipe away the os...but...that's what clockworkmod is for, making a backup, from time to time.
Is this possible?
Rob
rplourdejr said:
I use CM10 booting off of an sdcard 32 gig.
It is terrific and I like using that a lot, but things run a lot slower than stock.
I also rooted the stock system, and that works too, but there are small issues like the white on white ( I am using the fix ) and it still doesn't look good. Another issue is that the settings for Nook HD+ are the worst. This system runs very fast though.
So, I like CM10, but it runs slow. I dislike rooted stock, but it runs very quick.
Is there a way to boot the system off of an sdcard, but the entire system ( CM10 ) runs on the internal memory of the Nook HD+?
I would think this could work. One issue, that I think we might have is, if you boot without the sdcard, the standard Nook boot sequence will reboot your machine 8 times, and wipe away the os...but...that's what clockworkmod is for, making a backup, from time to time.
Is this possible?
Rob
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Bokbokan has done this on the HD, but no one has done it on the HD+. So yes it is possible. And the reason it runs slow on your card is you have a bad brand SD. If you run it on a good SD it is pretty snappy. Get a SanDisk class 4.
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leapinlar said:
Bokbokan has done this on the HD, but no one has done it on the HD+. So yes it is possible. And the reason it runs slow on your card is you have a bad brand SD. If you run it on a good SD it is pretty snappy. Get a SanDisk class 4.
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Alternatively, I've benchmarked the Sandisk 64GB ultra at 1.8MB/s random write and 6MB/s random read (4K, QD32). That way, you get the best of both worlds.
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leapinlar said:
Bokbokan has done this on the HD, but no one has done it on the HD+. So yes it is possible. And the reason it runs slow on your card is you have a bad brand SD. If you run it on a good SD it is pretty snappy. Get a SanDisk class 4.
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I am using the red and gray, SanDisk 32GB, just like everyone else is. There is an uppercase U with a 1 inside of the U, on the device.
Rob
rplourdejr said:
I am using the red and gray, SanDisk 32GB, just like everyone else is. There is an uppercase U with a 1 inside of the U, on the device.
Rob
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That's odd. I have the 64GB one with a similar speed rating and it runs like a dream. Do you use Windows? I installed mine using the "CM10 sdcard Installer" and replaced (and renamed) the ROM with "cm-10-20130101-UNOFFICIAL-hummingbird.zip" after flashing the installer image but before inserting the card into the Nook.
Might I suggest you take a backup image of your whole card using whatever disk imaging software you use, format it, run a speed test in CrystalDiskMark, post the results and, if it proves to handle random writes at a reasonable speed, try a clean install? I'm not an expert but it seems like that would be the best way of seeing whether the card is at fault or the installation without losing your current one.
AF85 said:
That's odd. I have the 64GB one with a similar speed rating and it runs like a dream. Do you use Windows? I installed mine using the "CM10 sdcard Installer" and replaced (and renamed) the ROM with "cm-10-20130101-UNOFFICIAL-hummingbird.zip" after flashing the installer image but before inserting the card into the Nook.
Might I suggest you take a backup image of your whole card using whatever disk imaging software you use, format it, run a speed test in CrystalDiskMark, post the results and, if it proves to handle random writes at a reasonable speed, try a clean install? I'm not an expert but it seems like that would be the best way of seeing whether the card is at fault or the installation without losing your current one.
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Hmmm...maybe I should define what I mean by slow?
I take the SanDisk out, and I reboot. Now I am in Stock Nook Rooted mode.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download is super quick and will take literally a second or two before it's downloaded, updated, and ready.
But...
I put the SanDisk back in, and reboot the system. Now I am in CM10, booted and running off the SanDisk.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download take, perhaps two or three times as long as it did when I did the same thing in Stock Nook Rooted mode?
I like CM10 so much better, so that is what I mostly use, but it seems odd to me that downloads go so much quicker from within the stock system. Of course, whatever I do in Stock, doesn't carry over in CM10.
Rob
rplourdejr said:
Hmmm...maybe I should define what I mean by slow?
I take the SanDisk out, and I reboot. Now I am in Stock Nook Rooted mode.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download is super quick and will take literally a second or two before it's downloaded, updated, and ready.
But...
I put the SanDisk back in, and reboot the system. Now I am in CM10, booted and running off the SanDisk.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download take, perhaps two or three times as long as it did when I did the same thing in Stock Nook Rooted mode?
I like CM10 so much better, so that is what I mostly use, but it seems odd to me that downloads go so much quicker from within the stock system. Of course, whatever I do in Stock, doesn't carry over in CM10.
Rob
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This is a pure guess but it could be that the stock is much more stripped down than CM10. What happens when you run a connection speed test (like speedtest.net)?
AF85 said:
This is a pure guess but it could be that the stock is much more stripped down than CM10. What happens when you run a connection speed test (like speedtest.net)?
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Interesting results.
I used an app called How The Grinch Stole...you know the title.
Using Stock setup, from Google App Store, this download of 29.16 Meg, took 27.5 seconds to download and install.
Using CM10 booting from SanDisk, same file, same Google App Store, 29.16 Meg actually took 1 minute 32 seconds to download and install.
Yes, I typed that in correct...1 minute 32 seconds for CM10, 27.5 seconds for Stock Nook.
Huh??? This does not make any sense.
I then tried the speedtest.net app on both systems. Pretty much identical, in all the different download and uploads tests I did, all to the same server, using both Stock Nook, and CM10 Nook.
I then thought...hmmm...perhaps I am not using the same Google Store App?
Both systems have google play services at 2.0.12-543433-10
Both systems have google play store 3.10.10
For Google Services Framework, Stock has 4.0.4-299849 and CM10 has 4.0.4-338691.
Still don't understand why downloading and installing from CM10 is so slow, and Stock is so much quicker.
Both systems did not have the Grinch app ever installed before, so it cannot be that.
At this point, I do not think it's setup, but it sure is strange.
Thanks for everyones feedback on this.
Rob
As far as Play Store downloading slower, it uses a folder in /data to temporarily hold the download file before it installs it. /data on stock is on emmc and /data on CM10 is on SD. So your card's speed characteristics could be effecting how quickly it downloads.
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leapinlar said:
As far as Play Store downloading slower, it uses a folder in /data to temporarily hold the download file before it installs it. /data on stock is on emmc and /data on CM10 is on SD. So your card's speed characteristics could be effecting how quickly it downloads.
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I tried using Crystal Disk Mark program, but I could not get it to see the drives on either Stock Nook or CM10. I can easily see the drives in Windows but they do not have drive letters and it seems Crystal Disk Mark only wants drive letters???
I could not get sdtools to work on my stock rooted nook. Kept complaining about failed write buffer.
It did work on CM10. I got 6.4MB/s write speed, and 18.8MB/s read speed.
Does that say anything useful?
Rob
rplourdejr said:
I tried using Crystal Disk Mark program, but I could not get it to see the drives on either Stock Nook or CM10. I can easily see the drives in Windows but they do not have drive letters
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That is because both CM10 and stock uses MTP protocol to display the drives in Windows. It is a media protocol meant for music files, but Android decided to use it by default instead of USB mass storage which uses drive letters. MTP shows the drives as portable devices like an MP3 player would show. CM10 usually has the option available to switch to USB mass storage mode, but it does not work on our devices.
Someone else must answer about the speeds you registered.
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rplourdejr said:
Hmmm...maybe I should define what I mean by slow?
I take the SanDisk out, and I reboot. Now I am in Stock Nook Rooted mode.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download is super quick and will take literally a second or two before it's downloaded, updated, and ready.
But...
I put the SanDisk back in, and reboot the system. Now I am in CM10, booted and running off the SanDisk.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download take, perhaps two or three times as long as it did when I did the same thing in Stock Nook Rooted mode?
I like CM10 so much better, so that is what I mostly use, but it seems odd to me that downloads go so much quicker from within the stock system. Of course, whatever I do in Stock, doesn't carry over in CM10.
Rob
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I know that 'later' versions of Android have a check on PLAY downloads that didn't exist in ICS. Could that be the problem?