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Ive done a little bit of searching and cant seem to find a thread about this (im sure there is one but i cant find it) so my question is which of the three do you like? i know there are pros and cons to all of them but i dont really know what to go with. any suggestions?
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Ive done a little bit of searching and cant seem to find a thread about this (im sure there is one but i cant find it) so my question is which of the three do you like? i know there are pros and cons to all of them but i dont really know what to go with. any suggestions?
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For me, rooted stock was definitely the easiest. It's the easiest to get working. For me' froyo was still not completely usable as it doesn't include Gapps and it's kinda funky getting them on there. Then nothing really works on honeycomb (and by that I mean downloaded apps) so if you just want to browse the interwebs that's the one for you. Froyo is if you want everything Android offers, but you better know what you"re doing. So IMO stock is the easiest and the prettiest, with honeycomb being second, and Froyo being third.
I can't speak to Froyo, but I've got the HC v04 preview running on eMMC (not SD card), and for me it is very stable.
I've got access to the market, apps seem to install fine (haven't had one fail yet, but I hear some do), and B&N works great.
Even better, the kernal included in the package I used was already OC'd to 1.1Mhz, and I'm consistently getting 1,500 to 1,600 on Quadrant.
Much better performance than I was getting on my stock Nook.
It's not perfect, and I've had to do a few tweaks (found on this site) in order to get the market working, and adhock wireless networks to show up...but for me the total install was really smooth.
The only problem I currently have is that I cannot get applications to transfer from eMMC to my SD card, so I'm running out of space to install more apps.
No way would I go back to stock...what I've got now works really well for everyday use, and will only get netter once Honeycomb goes GA.
If you do decide to "upgrade" your stock Nook, just remember that it's not a "sure deal", and that there are no guarantees things will work. While I haven't had to do so, I understand that restoring your Nook to stock is a bit of a chore, so make sure you read the "back to stock" threads before you decide to modify your Nook.
If you do decide to go with either Froyo or HC...just remember to follow instructions exactly!
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I can't speak to Froyo, but I've got the HC v04 preview running on eMMC (not SD card), and for me it is very stable.
I've got access to the market, apps seem to install fine (haven't had one fail yet, but I hear some do), and B&N works great.
Even better, the kernal included in the package I used was already OC'd to 1.1Mhz, and I'm consistently getting 1,500 to 1,600 on Quadrant.
Much better performance than I was getting on my stock Nook.
It's not perfect, and I've had to do a few tweaks (found on this site) in order to get the market working, and adhock wireless networks to show up...but for me the total install was really smooth.
The only problem I currently have is that I cannot get applications to transfer from eMMC to my SD card, so I'm running out of space to install more apps.
No way would I go back to stock...what I've got now works really well for everyday use, and will only get netter once Honeycomb goes GA.
If you do decide to "upgrade" your stock Nook, just remember that it's not a "sure deal", and that there are no guarantees things will work. While I haven't had to do so, I understand that restoring your Nook to stock is a bit of a chore, so make sure you read the "back to stock" threads before you decide to modify your Nook.
If you do decide to go with either Froyo or HC...just remember to follow instructions exactly!
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yo, deadly, chill down a bit...nook is very hard to brick and destroy..
Since OP is here, on XDA, I suppose he knows enough to continue...
It is not so hard, trust me, pick one and try, you can start witk stock rooted...Then you will find annoying the way apps are starting, or eclair itself...So, you go and try froyo (on emmc, ofcourse), which is the closest thing to phone froyo feeling, and you'll use it happily until...One day you decide to try something new, and that would be HC...
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I can't speak to Froyo, but I've got the HC v04 preview running on eMMC (not SD card), and for me it is very stable.
I've got access to the market, apps seem to install fine (haven't had one fail yet, but I hear some do), and B&N works great.
Even better, the kernal included in the package I used was already OC'd to 1.1Mhz, and I'm consistently getting 1,500 to 1,600 on Quadrant.
Much better performance than I was getting on my stock Nook.
It's not perfect, and I've had to do a few tweaks (found on this site) in order to get the market working, and adhock wireless networks to show up...but for me the total install was really smooth.
The only problem I currently have is that I cannot get applications to transfer from eMMC to my SD card, so I'm running out of space to install more apps.
No way would I go back to stock...what I've got now works really well for everyday use, and will only get netter once Honeycomb goes GA.
If you do decide to "upgrade" your stock Nook, just remember that it's not a "sure deal", and that there are no guarantees things will work. While I haven't had to do so, I understand that restoring your Nook to stock is a bit of a chore, so make sure you read the "back to stock" threads before you decide to modify your Nook.
If you do decide to go with either Froyo or HC...just remember to follow instructions exactly!
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Out of curiosity, what do you mean that B&N works great? Are you just talking about the Nook app from the market, or the stock B&N apps that come with the Nook when you first get it. I was under the assumption that those would be lost with any install of Honeycomb or Froyo, which has kept me from making that jump.
im leaning toward HC cuz i dont mind difficult because i enjoy doing this kind of stuff but my worry is widgets and a few apps has anyone used circle launcher or gbcoid or gameboid or any other emulator on this?
edit: also any luck on videos working? like rockplayer or yxplayer?
Rockplayer works well , NESoid works well, gonnna try pSX tonight.
Honey 4 on emmc.
@deadly read thru the emmc thread, the answer is there. Root explorer change permissions.
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im leaning toward HC cuz i dont mind difficult because i enjoy doing this kind of stuff but my worry is widgets and a few apps has anyone used circle launcher or gbcoid or gameboid or any other emulator on this?
edit: also any luck on videos working? like rockplayer or yxplayer?
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As far as I know none of the alternate builds currently support hardware-accelerated video playback, so your only real option for smooth fullscreen video is the (rooted or not) B&N Nook image. If anyone has gotten this working on a different build please let us know.
Honeycomb has a few issues, for example accelerometer input being rotated 90% in some games, and occasionally tiny hard-to-read onscreen text since it's configured for a non-native pixel density to fit the 1280x800 UI on the Nook's smaller screen. It's fun for testing and ok as a daily environment if your important apps all happen to work, but you should expect things to break.
By "B&N works great", I meant that I'm running the B&N reader from the market. Personally I like it better than the stock Nook reader.
@djurkash: As you say, "It's not so hard...", I was up and running in an hour or so. Sorry if you felt I was trying to scare anyone away. I really like what I've got...but I have also noted a bit of "HC mania", and not everyone bothers to RTFM. If someone reads through this site, and feels comfortable with the process...I hope they go for it! I'm glad I did.
@jonrobertd: I'd read through the emmc thread, and didn't see anything that addressed moving apps. I just went back through and searched on "Root Explorer" and "permissions", but didn't see anything that looked like it would help. I'm probably missing something obvious, but any assistance you could offer would be greatly appreciated (I do have Root Explorer installed and working).
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Rockplayer works well , NESoid works well, gonnna try pSX tonight.
Honey 4 on emmc.
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@jonrobertd, I just tried Rockplayer on HC v4 off SD (not overclocked), it runs at 12-15fps according to its built-in counter for original size, a bit slower for fullscreen video ([email protected], baseline H264 from Handbrake). Is that significantly better with the overclocked version? Currently it's usable but looks noticeably jerky. Of course, dual-booting to use the stock player would be a fallback option.
I have only had my nook now for 4 days so I am in no way going to put down any build. But from a new users opinion I have installed and messed with all three releases (stock rooted) (froyo) (honeycomb) And I LOVED honeycomb.
I was happy with it for a short time though due to no flash. Youtube app was a no go and the web youtube worked but was whacky.
I then went back to stock rooted and put on ADW ex. Everything just works! I am completely happy with stock running ADW until honeycomb gets more refined.
And I cant wait for that to happen because it looks very nice and is a much better user experience on the nook.
Rockplayer is much better off of eMMC and overclocked. As to running HC off SD I
can see it being slower, as the card speeds can vary.
For root explorer, I am using version 2.13.3 it works to give R/W permissions. (PM me if needed)
Apps installing to SD, use the following:
Also I follow Samuelhaff's advice and change the permissions on newsf_msdos on the /system/bin and now almost all applications install with few fails. I did it a risky way though, since I don't have ADB access I just rightclicked the file with Root Explorer, chose permissions and click in all 9 boxes, worked for me but it may be risky.
Doing this gave the me option to move to SD. I have ADB working, was just on the nook so I did it with R.E. and it worked.
If you need any more help pm me or ask here.
I have used all three (rooted stock, Nookie Froyo, and Honeycomb v4), and I am currently using a dual boot setup with stock on eMMC and NF on a microSD card. I am using rookie1's awesome multi-u-boot which allows me to choose to boot from either the SD or the eMMC at startup by pressing the home button. Stock is good for daily use, and NF is good for more cutting-edge stuff (Flash being one example). I'll probably use Honeycomb once the biggest bugs are ironed out, which will probably be after HC goes AOSP. In any case, the Nook Color has three great operating systems that you can choose from. It can't hurt to try, even if you decide to burn to eMMC instead of running off an SDcard the Nook Color is [very] hard to brick.
I just installed Sam's custom HC for emmc last night and I have to say that this is my favorite of the three options. It runs much smoother than I expected. Overall, I was not a big fan of froyo, the performance for the most part was great but I always had touch issues and keyboard lag.
1.) Sam's custom HC v4
2.) Rooted Stock 1.1
3.) Nookie Froyo emmc
I like the stock rom better, easier to root too. I've tried the HC on SD works fine but harder to setup for new nookies
i went ahead and went with HC last night and it is great so smooth and so clean the lock screen alone is just so nice, although i wish it had flash and rock player plays really choppy on my .avi anime but thats ok i can watch it on my phone. thanx guys for all you help and suggestions anyone that wants to post suggestions please do im sure there are people just like me looking for the awnsers this topic can provide
I've had my NC for a few weeks now am itching to try Froyo or Honeycomb. Something that is important to me though is the Readtome childrens books. My 3 year old really likes them. Does the market B&N appt work with these books? If not, is there a way to still use them on either Froyo or Hobeycomb (HC preferred)?
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As far as I can tell the Read To Me books only work on the app on the NC. But that's no reason not to try Froyo or HC. Just try one of the SD image versions. That's what I've been doing. Booting off SD doesn't affect whatever you have loaded on the internal memory. Going back to the B&N stock ROM is just as simple as powering down your NC, popping out the bootable SD card, popping back in your regular SD card (if you have one) and powering the NC back on.
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As far as I can tell the Read To Me books only work on the app on the NC. But that's no reason not to try Froyo or HC. Just try one of the SD image versions. That's what I've been doing. Booting off SD doesn't affect whatever you have loaded on the internal memory. Going back to the B&N stock ROM is just as simple as powering down your NC, popping out the bootable SD card, popping back in your regular SD card (if you have one) and powering the NC back on.
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I did not know you can do that with the SD card. Im going to see about doing that when I get home. Thanks.
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So working with the CM7 nightly builds and the nook app for android, I'm struck by how much I'm finding I like the nook app better than the nookcolor home and reader. I can read my bought books, sideload books and everything else. On top of that I get pageturn animations that don't exist on the stock reader. The font selection is a bit more limited and some of the interface doesn't seem as refined, but it really doesn't seem that much of a tradeoff.
Anybody else running CM7? What are your impressions of the nook app?
I use the nook app on my phone, so that is what I was already used to. It did run sluggish on the NC the first time I used it, but I realoaded it and it is fine now.. mainly slow page turns.
does the Nook App have the same features as the Home one - Notes, Look Up, Highlight? what are the real limitations comparing to stock? that's the only thing that stops me from upgrade now, the whole reader integration on stock.
Does the nook app require you to import your sideloaded books like aldiko or is it like the nook home, and uses a file manager to locate books?
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I only did a quick try using the Nook App, but the one major downside I noticed is no support for magazine subscriptions. However, not much of a problem for those of you who don't have them. Also the look up, notes, highlighting etc built into the NC stock aren't available in the app. Everyone is entitiled to their opinion, but the only thing I consider better on the Nook App are the page turn animations and that really doesn't improve the use as much as the additional support and features available on the stock app. That's why I'm waiting for CM7 sd image, guess I'll have to stick with my stock emmc for reading and nookie froyo sd for tablet features until them.
I wish you could tap to turn the page in the app (or am I doing something wrong?).
With the Android Nook App (not the Nook Color Stock Reader/Library) - is there a way to move sideloaded books to the "Library" ?
Or do they just remain as "My Files".
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I wish you could tap to turn the page in the app (or am I doing something wrong?).
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I am able to tap to turn the page.
I like the look and feel of the stock Nook Home but I definitely prefer the performance increases in CM7 vs stock Eclair.
I much prefer the Market Nook app. In fact when I first used the nook my wife commented on how "slow" the stock reader went through pages.
I don't really use the nook app either way myself (prefer Amazon), but I must admit that without the Market Nook app I couldn't tell people I have a tablet because the first thing they ask for (to demonstrate) is page turn animations. iPad set the bar there, and B&N out of the box didn't deliver....
I am having a problem importing epub files into the Nook app I am running phiremod nook V4.1 rom. I copied a epub file into the my files folder but it doesn't show up in the apps my files.
I don't really get the page turn animations? What's the point? Doesn't it slow down page turns?
I used the stock rooted setup for a few days, and then installed rom along with Nook App.
I didnt like the Nook App because of the lack of magazine/newspaper support.
The stock Nook setup is better IMO, it just feels better overall in terms of really getting the most out of your nookcolor. Magazines, newspapers, etc..
Oh and turn page animation? really? LOL c'mon ppl. I'm going to pay an extra $300 for page turn feature??
Is there anyway to use the stock nook setup with a custom rom?
"Also the look up, notes, highlighting etc built into the NC stock aren't available in the app."
I just tried these things and they work fine in the app. It would be nice to have the dictionary built in but hey, I have the dicitonary.com app if I really need to know. (On CM7)
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So working with the CM7 nightly builds and the nook app for android, I'm struck by how much I'm finding I like the nook app better than the nookcolor home and reader. I can read my bought books, sideload books and everything else. On top of that I get pageturn animations that don't exist on the stock reader. The font selection is a bit more limited and some of the interface doesn't seem as refined, but it really doesn't seem that much of a tradeoff.
Anybody else running CM7? What are your impressions of the nook app?
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How are you getting the app to work on the nightly builds? I am able to get in the app click stuff but if i download a book it just says file not supported. Also I had a couple of books on my sd card and moved them to the books folder for the app and it doesnt work either. Would you mins telling me how you got it to work? Thanks
I admit that of the Nook App for Android versus the Nook App for Stock that I much preferred the stock one.
But I really love the Nook as a tablet rather than a simple eReader, so I cancelled my magazine subscriptions this last week rather than having to go back to stock to read them.
b&n, if you actually read these forums, PLEASE give us magazine and newspaper subscriptions with the Nook for Android app, I promise that I will subscribe if you do!!
The Nook app won't download the "Read to me" children's books I bought. Otherwise I'd stop using the ROM on SD.
I too like using the Nook App on CM7 but has anyone figured out how to get the covers to show up for sideloaded content? Most of my stuff is copied over from my Calibre library, all covers show up fine in Aldiko but in the Nook app, no covers. Not a big deal really but just thought I would throw it out there in case someone has a fix.
bobzdar said:
I don't really get the page turn animations? What's the point? Doesn't it slow down page turns?
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It gives you that nostalgic feeling of yonder days I know we are trying to save trees here but some of us still want that feeling of flipping through pages.
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I figured it out..
Is it possible to still read magazines after rooting the Nook? I have the Nook AP on my XOOM and I cannot read any magazines on it. My wife's Nook has not been rooted yet but she would like to be able to use it more like a Tablet and use the Nook AP to access her books. But if she can't read her magazines, she wouldn't be too happy.
Can anyone help? Thanks!
ghoticov said:
Is it possible to still read magazines after rooting the Nook? I have the Nook AP on my XOOM and I cannot read any magazines on it. My wife's Nook has not been rooted yet but she would like to be able to use it more like a Tablet and use the Nook AP to access her books. But if she can't read her magazines, she wouldn't be too happy.
Can anyone help? Thanks!
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While I don't know about magazines, I was able to buy a book and use the "lend me" feature.
This. was using the native NC program with rom 1.1 an3.0.0.
I read magazines just fine on a rooted nook.
ghoticov said:
Is it possible to still read magazines after rooting the Nook? I have the Nook AP on my XOOM and I cannot read any magazines on it. My wife's Nook has not been rooted yet but she would like to be able to use it more like a Tablet and use the Nook AP to access her books. But if she can't read her magazines, she wouldn't be too happy.
Can anyone help? Thanks!
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Currently the magizine feature is not avaible on the app. The main reason is the registration and subscription concerns. Soon enough it may be avalible
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I can't speak for the app, but I can confirm that my rooted NC reads my magazine subscriptions without any problems at all.
sanvara said:
I read magazines just fine on a rooted nook.
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How are you reading them? Through the nook AP or through another AP?
jlmwrite said:
I can't speak for the app, but I can confirm that my rooted NC reads my magazine subscriptions without any problems at all.
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Do you use an AP to read them?
I would think that if you want to root the nook is because you'd like do what you want with it. (i.e.) not have to pay for stuff like that.
I use Aldiko for all my reading, imported or otherwise.
I rooted mine with Auto Nooter 3.00 and my B&N store and being able to download and read anything I download works just fine.
As long as when you root, you stay on the stock 2.1 android, you will have the same B&N Nook app as before rooting, and magazines and childrens books work fine
If you switch to android 2.2 or 2.3 or 3.0 (honeycomb), then you need to use the standard Nook app, which won't read magazine or childrens books.
What i don't get, is that one would buy a Nook Color to root it to do heavy reading.
Why not? That's one of its features and it's a great one at that. Sure, you may be primarily interested in using it as a tablet, but why could you not also be interested in "heavy reading"?
swordsaint said:
What i don't get, is that one would buy a Nook Color to root it to do heavy reading.
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jasoraso said:
As long as when you root, you stay on the stock 2.1 android, you will have the same B&N Nook app as before rooting, and magazines and childrens books work fine
If you switch to android 2.2 or 2.3 or 3.0 (honeycomb), then you need to use the standard Nook app, which won't read magazine or childrens books.
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That's answers my question perfect.
If and when I rooted, I was going to stay with the stock 2.1. My wife only wants to root it in order to install aps from the market and not be so "hand cuffed" by the B&N software.
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What i don't get, is that one would buy a Nook Color to root it to do heavy reading.
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She doesn't do heavy reading.
Also, many times people buy things because they don't completely understand what the best thing to buy is.
She does read on it and she loves being able to read magazines (and the childrens books that read to them) but she also likes the idea of being able to install aps (games, FB, Twitter and so forth).
Riley76 said:
I rooted mine with Auto Nooter 3.00 and my B&N store and being able to download and read anything I download works just fine.
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I assume Auto Nooter 3.00 is pretty easy to do? I did root my Droid X but that was very simple in running the z4root file, it did everything for me.
Also, once I run Auto Nooter 3.00 will I still be able to access the B&N software (I assume that is how you are reading your mags?).
noook noook
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ghoticov said:
I assume Auto Nooter 3.00 is pretty easy to do? I did root my Droid X but that was very simple in running the z4root file, it did everything for me.
Also, once I run Auto Nooter 3.00 will I still be able to access the B&N software (I assume that is how you are reading your mags?).
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Auto Nooter 3.00 still rests on the 2.1 kernal, and still uses the default B&N reader app that comes with that kernal, providing you with access to the Magazines.
As pointed out you only lose access to the readers if you install any of the 2.2 or 2.3 kernals that then require the 'standard' B&N Nook app for the android that you can download from the Android store.
This is one reason why I'm actually dual booting at this time. Using the autonootered Nook for my magazine reading, but using my SD card to boot to 2.2 and its much better experience as an Android tablet for everything else.
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Robyn
miniaturepeddler said:
Auto Nooter 3.00 still rests on the 2.1 kernal, and still uses the default B&N reader app that comes with that kernal, providing you with access to the Magazines.
As pointed out you only lose access to the readers if you install any of the 2.2 or 2.3 kernals that then require the 'standard' B&N Nook app for the android that you can download from the Android store.
This is one reason why I'm actually dual booting at this time. Using the autonootered Nook for my magazine reading, but using my SD card to boot to 2.2 and its much better experience as an Android tablet for everything else.
FWIW
Robyn
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Gotcha! I think staying on 2.1 would be fine for her... as long as she can install aps like facebook, twitter and games ... and then still be able to read her magazines and use the B&N reader that is on there. If I start trying to get her to boot from an sdcard things could go haywire quickly (for her and possibly me! lol).
Once rooted, I assume there is just a ap link that you click to go to the B&N reader which makes it operate like a stock Nook?
miniaturepeddler said:
Auto Nooter 3.00 still rests on the 2.1 kernal, and still uses the default B&N reader app that comes with that kernal, providing you with access to the Magazines.
As pointed out you only lose access to the readers if you install any of the 2.2 or 2.3 kernals that then require the 'standard' B&N Nook app for the android that you can download from the Android store.
This is one reason why I'm actually dual booting at this time. Using the autonootered Nook for my magazine reading, but using my SD card to boot to 2.2 and its much better experience as an Android tablet for everything else.
FWIW
Robyn
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Robyn - can you provide a link to the direction on setting up mSD card to boot 2.2?
Thanks
Karl
Hi All,
Devs and Members,
I have recently purchased the NC for my wife as a plain ol' e-reader, but after reading about rooting and all the cool stuff you can do with it I have been testing it out on the NC we have. I have to say I am impressed, not bad for buying the NC for $200 off of Craigslist. SO after reading for days on this awesome forum, I took a leap an jump right into rooting the NC using auto-nooter 3.0.0. After a few days of messing with around with it, I installed Nookie Froyo 6.8 emm 3 last night. WOW what a difference it is now compared to when we just got it. I havent had any issues with it, but if there is any opinions or advice on what apps to install next or what should I try next.....please feel free to leave me some comments. I will happily try it out and post some feed back as well as giving you thanks for your thanks meters!!!
Thanks In Advance
Ray.
Well now that you no longer have any of the NC B&N Apps I suggest getting some eReader Apps.
-Nook App (If you want Nook Books, but Magazines and Kid Books won't work)
-Kindle App (If you have Kindle Books or Mobi books)
-Aldiko App (For Reading PDFs and EPUB, also supports Adobe DRM so you can get Library eBooks)
-Titanium Backup App & Buy the Pro Key (For Batch Backup/Restore of Apps and Settings in case an App update brakes an App or you Switched ROMs)
That's a Good Start.
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HI,
The NC is my first real eBook reader - and one of the most useful/interesting
apps is an opensource PC/MAC program Calibre - and eBook library management
utility. It will download covers, reviews and convert many formats. It will also
d/l to your device etc. See: http://calibre-ebook.com/
There is a (paid) app in the library that can link to Calibre as well: "Calibre Library",
but you can also use other tools with Calibre to get your eBooks onto device.
Not mentioned above is FBreader, another eBook reader app. which has a syncing
tool available on the market: FBSync, to keep bookmarks and books in sync - useful
when you are trying different ROMs.
ROM: Cyanogenmod7 (Gingerbread) nightlies work very well for me.
I use Button Savior as my soft key application, it has worked well for me. The
on screen buttons are quiet reading in bed at night.
I bought Repligo for PDF reading, the text reflow seems to work 'ok' for me, but
NC is not an ideal PDF reader.
Peter
japzone said:
Well now that you no longer have any of the NC B&N Apps I suggest getting some eReader Apps.
-Nook App (If you want Nook Books, but Magazines and Kid Books won't work)
-Kindle App (If you have Kindle Books or Mobi books)
-Aldiko App (For Reading PDFs and EPUB, also supports Adobe DRM so you can get Library eBooks)
-Titanium Backup App & Buy the Pro Key (For Batch Backup/Restore of Apps and Settings in case an App update brakes an App or you Switched ROMs)
That's a Good Start.
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Thanks.....already have the nook app since the wife has purchased a few books from there. Will give the others a try just to see if there is a difference in reading material. I usually download pdf magazines does this aldiko app work well for this? Again thanks for you replies!!
pmilford said:
HI,
The NC is my first real eBook reader - and one of the most useful/interesting
apps is an opensource PC/MAC program Calibre - and eBook library management
utility. It will download covers, reviews and convert many formats. It will also
d/l to your device etc.
There is a (paid) app in the library that can link to Calibre as well: "Calibre Library",
but you can also use other tools with Calibre to get your eBooks onto device.
Not mentioned above is FBreader, another eBook reader app. which has a syncing
tool available on the market: FBSync, to keep bookmarks and books in sync - useful
when you are trying different ROMs.
ROM: Cyanogenmod7 (Gingerbread) nightlies work very well for me.
I use Button Savior as my soft key application, it has worked well for me. The
on screen buttons are quiet reading in bed at night.
I bought Repligo for PDF reading, the text reflow seems to work 'ok' for me, but
NC is not an ideal PDF reader.
Peter
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You know I am pretty interested in this Cyanogenmod7 but does it work well? are the devs still ironing out some wrinkles with this ROM? Gingerbread....so this is android 2.3? Is there a way to speed up the NC......maybe overclock?!?!?
HI,
Yes Cyanogenmod 7 works well, even though they haven't released the stable
final release yet. Weak areas are video playback and battery life. Both sound like
they will improve. The Phiremod version based on CM7 is a bit easier.
There are over-clock kernels for all versions of Nook Android, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451
Peter
rican199 said:
Thanks.....already have the nook app since the wife has purchased a few books from there. Will give the others a try just to see if there is a difference in reading material. I usually download pdf magazines does this aldiko app work well for this? Again thanks for you replies!!
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Aldiko works fine. It supports Zooming too.
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the CyanogenMod 7 (CM7) ROM comes with an overclocked Kernel, once you start it up you can go into their options and up it to 925mhz, which makes this thing run GREAT! Also, battery life isn't bad. If you use it mainly as a reading device (meaning wifi off, bluetooth off, screen fairly bright), it will last you I'd say 8 hours MINIMUM, if you're doing other things, I'd still say it'll last you 6 hours (this, of course, is actual usage time. I only charge mine very other day or every 3 days)
I love Aldiko and it is my preferred reader. The problem is epub is not as popular as it once was. I've actually heard that many amazon books do NOT have DRM and, therefore, can be easily converted to ePub via Calibre. Check out my full post (and ever growing post) about the Nook as an eBook reader in the App's and Themes forum.
Also, B&N has said that they are working on making the Nook app better to include magazine support among other things.
OK, so today I am going to flash the internal memory and install CyanogenMod 7. Is it safe to just overwrite the nookie froyo 0.6.8 I have installed or must I first bring the nook back to system default, then root it again and then install CyanogenMod 7? So any ideas which mod to install, or should I say which one has the least quirks to fix....lol If there is an easy step by step guide anyone can recommend I will go ahead and review before making the jump
Thanks again everyone....truly a great site when your lost in the clouds!!
rican199 said:
OK, so today I am going to flash the internal memory and install CyanogenMod 7. Is it safe to just overwrite the nookie froyo 0.6.8 I have installed or must I first bring the nook back to system default, then root it again and then install CyanogenMod 7? So any ideas which mod to install, or should I say which one has the least quirks to fix....lol If there is an easy step by step guide anyone can recommend I will go ahead and review before making the jump
Thanks again everyone....truly a great site when your lost in the clouds!!
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Flash it right over it, no big deal. Just make sure to follow the directions and do a full system wipe from inside CWM. I also throw my vote in that CM7 is great. I never read mazagines or newspapers from BN so the standard nook app off the market works great. Also, make sure to get the gapps zip because you will need to flash that after the nightly if you want to have the google market.
cyanogen wiki: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide
A really easy way to get this process going is to use the following bootable CWM SD card, load the zips on there and flash away : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959240
Thanks For the links "very informative" a well written guide. But no instructions for windows install....I mean is it the same as installing nookie froyo 0.6.8? Just burn on the sd card, turn off the nook color, and insert to sd card?
rican199 said:
Thanks For the links "very informative" a well written guide. But no instructions for windows install....I mean is it the same as installing nookie froyo 0.6.8? Just burn on the sd card, turn off the nook color, and insert to sd card?
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If you go the route of using a live CWM sd card, you make it the same way you make the original SD to root the nook, I think it's winimage or something along those lines as the windows program to make it. Just make sure you download the correct CWM for that SD card size.
I'll try and condense the steps as best as possible, but please read all the guides linked to get more information
1. Download the newest Cyanogen nightly from the website I posted, download the newest google apps zip, and download the correct CWM live SD card for the size of the card you're using
2. On windows use Win32DiskImage to create a live CWM mod sd
3. Place the nightly.zip and gapps.zip on the sd card
4.turn off nc, place the sd in nc, when you turn it on it will boot into cwm
5. use CWM to wipe the data on the NC
5. Choose install zip from sd card
6. install nightly zip
7. install gapps zip
turn off nc, when you turn it back on you're on cm7
also this is a link to the gapps
http://go.redirectingat.com/?id=162...installed-cm7-now-i-dont-have-market-app.html
HI,
Another walk through of installing CM7:
Long CM7 install description: (slightly dated now)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=151
Peter
Man you guys keep amazing everyday with your help. I will do that today and post my results here.
Thanks again!!
Your help is truly appreciated!
UPDATE!!
Well installed CM7 nightly from 3/26, installed GAPPS, and also installed the updates OC Kernel w/fixed IO Pref. and it works awesome.....overclocked to 1100mhz and its way faster than when I first got it!!! Amazing.
I use CM10 booting off of an sdcard 32 gig.
It is terrific and I like using that a lot, but things run a lot slower than stock.
I also rooted the stock system, and that works too, but there are small issues like the white on white ( I am using the fix ) and it still doesn't look good. Another issue is that the settings for Nook HD+ are the worst. This system runs very fast though.
So, I like CM10, but it runs slow. I dislike rooted stock, but it runs very quick.
Is there a way to boot the system off of an sdcard, but the entire system ( CM10 ) runs on the internal memory of the Nook HD+?
I would think this could work. One issue, that I think we might have is, if you boot without the sdcard, the standard Nook boot sequence will reboot your machine 8 times, and wipe away the os...but...that's what clockworkmod is for, making a backup, from time to time.
Is this possible?
Rob
rplourdejr said:
I use CM10 booting off of an sdcard 32 gig.
It is terrific and I like using that a lot, but things run a lot slower than stock.
I also rooted the stock system, and that works too, but there are small issues like the white on white ( I am using the fix ) and it still doesn't look good. Another issue is that the settings for Nook HD+ are the worst. This system runs very fast though.
So, I like CM10, but it runs slow. I dislike rooted stock, but it runs very quick.
Is there a way to boot the system off of an sdcard, but the entire system ( CM10 ) runs on the internal memory of the Nook HD+?
I would think this could work. One issue, that I think we might have is, if you boot without the sdcard, the standard Nook boot sequence will reboot your machine 8 times, and wipe away the os...but...that's what clockworkmod is for, making a backup, from time to time.
Is this possible?
Rob
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Bokbokan has done this on the HD, but no one has done it on the HD+. So yes it is possible. And the reason it runs slow on your card is you have a bad brand SD. If you run it on a good SD it is pretty snappy. Get a SanDisk class 4.
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leapinlar said:
Bokbokan has done this on the HD, but no one has done it on the HD+. So yes it is possible. And the reason it runs slow on your card is you have a bad brand SD. If you run it on a good SD it is pretty snappy. Get a SanDisk class 4.
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Alternatively, I've benchmarked the Sandisk 64GB ultra at 1.8MB/s random write and 6MB/s random read (4K, QD32). That way, you get the best of both worlds.
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leapinlar said:
Bokbokan has done this on the HD, but no one has done it on the HD+. So yes it is possible. And the reason it runs slow on your card is you have a bad brand SD. If you run it on a good SD it is pretty snappy. Get a SanDisk class 4.
Sent from my stock Nook HD+ using XDA Premium
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I am using the red and gray, SanDisk 32GB, just like everyone else is. There is an uppercase U with a 1 inside of the U, on the device.
Rob
rplourdejr said:
I am using the red and gray, SanDisk 32GB, just like everyone else is. There is an uppercase U with a 1 inside of the U, on the device.
Rob
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That's odd. I have the 64GB one with a similar speed rating and it runs like a dream. Do you use Windows? I installed mine using the "CM10 sdcard Installer" and replaced (and renamed) the ROM with "cm-10-20130101-UNOFFICIAL-hummingbird.zip" after flashing the installer image but before inserting the card into the Nook.
Might I suggest you take a backup image of your whole card using whatever disk imaging software you use, format it, run a speed test in CrystalDiskMark, post the results and, if it proves to handle random writes at a reasonable speed, try a clean install? I'm not an expert but it seems like that would be the best way of seeing whether the card is at fault or the installation without losing your current one.
AF85 said:
That's odd. I have the 64GB one with a similar speed rating and it runs like a dream. Do you use Windows? I installed mine using the "CM10 sdcard Installer" and replaced (and renamed) the ROM with "cm-10-20130101-UNOFFICIAL-hummingbird.zip" after flashing the installer image but before inserting the card into the Nook.
Might I suggest you take a backup image of your whole card using whatever disk imaging software you use, format it, run a speed test in CrystalDiskMark, post the results and, if it proves to handle random writes at a reasonable speed, try a clean install? I'm not an expert but it seems like that would be the best way of seeing whether the card is at fault or the installation without losing your current one.
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Hmmm...maybe I should define what I mean by slow?
I take the SanDisk out, and I reboot. Now I am in Stock Nook Rooted mode.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download is super quick and will take literally a second or two before it's downloaded, updated, and ready.
But...
I put the SanDisk back in, and reboot the system. Now I am in CM10, booted and running off the SanDisk.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download take, perhaps two or three times as long as it did when I did the same thing in Stock Nook Rooted mode?
I like CM10 so much better, so that is what I mostly use, but it seems odd to me that downloads go so much quicker from within the stock system. Of course, whatever I do in Stock, doesn't carry over in CM10.
Rob
rplourdejr said:
Hmmm...maybe I should define what I mean by slow?
I take the SanDisk out, and I reboot. Now I am in Stock Nook Rooted mode.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download is super quick and will take literally a second or two before it's downloaded, updated, and ready.
But...
I put the SanDisk back in, and reboot the system. Now I am in CM10, booted and running off the SanDisk.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download take, perhaps two or three times as long as it did when I did the same thing in Stock Nook Rooted mode?
I like CM10 so much better, so that is what I mostly use, but it seems odd to me that downloads go so much quicker from within the stock system. Of course, whatever I do in Stock, doesn't carry over in CM10.
Rob
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This is a pure guess but it could be that the stock is much more stripped down than CM10. What happens when you run a connection speed test (like speedtest.net)?
AF85 said:
This is a pure guess but it could be that the stock is much more stripped down than CM10. What happens when you run a connection speed test (like speedtest.net)?
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Interesting results.
I used an app called How The Grinch Stole...you know the title.
Using Stock setup, from Google App Store, this download of 29.16 Meg, took 27.5 seconds to download and install.
Using CM10 booting from SanDisk, same file, same Google App Store, 29.16 Meg actually took 1 minute 32 seconds to download and install.
Yes, I typed that in correct...1 minute 32 seconds for CM10, 27.5 seconds for Stock Nook.
Huh??? This does not make any sense.
I then tried the speedtest.net app on both systems. Pretty much identical, in all the different download and uploads tests I did, all to the same server, using both Stock Nook, and CM10 Nook.
I then thought...hmmm...perhaps I am not using the same Google Store App?
Both systems have google play services at 2.0.12-543433-10
Both systems have google play store 3.10.10
For Google Services Framework, Stock has 4.0.4-299849 and CM10 has 4.0.4-338691.
Still don't understand why downloading and installing from CM10 is so slow, and Stock is so much quicker.
Both systems did not have the Grinch app ever installed before, so it cannot be that.
At this point, I do not think it's setup, but it sure is strange.
Thanks for everyones feedback on this.
Rob
As far as Play Store downloading slower, it uses a folder in /data to temporarily hold the download file before it installs it. /data on stock is on emmc and /data on CM10 is on SD. So your card's speed characteristics could be effecting how quickly it downloads.
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leapinlar said:
As far as Play Store downloading slower, it uses a folder in /data to temporarily hold the download file before it installs it. /data on stock is on emmc and /data on CM10 is on SD. So your card's speed characteristics could be effecting how quickly it downloads.
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I tried using Crystal Disk Mark program, but I could not get it to see the drives on either Stock Nook or CM10. I can easily see the drives in Windows but they do not have drive letters and it seems Crystal Disk Mark only wants drive letters???
I could not get sdtools to work on my stock rooted nook. Kept complaining about failed write buffer.
It did work on CM10. I got 6.4MB/s write speed, and 18.8MB/s read speed.
Does that say anything useful?
Rob
rplourdejr said:
I tried using Crystal Disk Mark program, but I could not get it to see the drives on either Stock Nook or CM10. I can easily see the drives in Windows but they do not have drive letters
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That is because both CM10 and stock uses MTP protocol to display the drives in Windows. It is a media protocol meant for music files, but Android decided to use it by default instead of USB mass storage which uses drive letters. MTP shows the drives as portable devices like an MP3 player would show. CM10 usually has the option available to switch to USB mass storage mode, but it does not work on our devices.
Someone else must answer about the speeds you registered.
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rplourdejr said:
Hmmm...maybe I should define what I mean by slow?
I take the SanDisk out, and I reboot. Now I am in Stock Nook Rooted mode.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download is super quick and will take literally a second or two before it's downloaded, updated, and ready.
But...
I put the SanDisk back in, and reboot the system. Now I am in CM10, booted and running off the SanDisk.
I go to Amazon Market or Google App Store. It is showing several apps that have updates.
When I select an app, click update, and then click install and download, the download take, perhaps two or three times as long as it did when I did the same thing in Stock Nook Rooted mode?
I like CM10 so much better, so that is what I mostly use, but it seems odd to me that downloads go so much quicker from within the stock system. Of course, whatever I do in Stock, doesn't carry over in CM10.
Rob
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I know that 'later' versions of Android have a check on PLAY downloads that didn't exist in ICS. Could that be the problem?