Hello friends!
I had a Samsung Galaxy Ace which I recently sold and now want to upgrade. Problem is that I am stuck with a few and am not able to decide which one should I go for.
1. Samsung Galaxy S I9000: This phone has the best screen in the lot but only 340 MB usable RAM (Balance is reserved for the system). Has 16 GB internal memory and 2 GB ROM. Moreover, I read some where that Samsung will stop providing updates for this phone very soon.
2. Samsung Galaxy SL I9003: This has a good 4 inch screen but not as good as I9000. Got 478 MB Usable RAM but only 4 GB internal memory and 1 GB ROM. Pice is a little less than I9000. Is it better than I9000?
3. HTC Desire S: Good 768 MB RAM, 1 GB ROM but unfortunately has only 3.7 inch screen. Undoubtly built quailty is the best but is also a bit costilier than the rest.
4. LP OPtimus 2X: Best processor, 1 GB ROM, 512 RAM but cheap built quality and not that very attractive. Screen below I9000 and still costilier than I9000.
5. Dell Venue: 4.1 inch screen, 1 GB ROM, 512 MB RAM but nothing special that stands out.
The problem is that I belong to a small place and so cant get a hand on to any of these mobiles, else I would have tested them myself. I just have your word for it. So please recommend me which is the one I should jump for.
Thank you.
Why did u miss ?
GALAXY S 2 .... Go for it ...
There are new did phones coming out with samoled screens, I wouldn't worry about 340 mb of ram, that is perfectly fine for a phone, ram is meant to be used.
Cyanogen mod on this phone is amazing and android is great with memory management. Android is not like windows and can run perfect even with 20 mb free.
Right now I have 135 mb free and DO NOT use a memory or app killer.
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Mortify1 said:
There are new did phones coming out with samoled screens, I wouldn't worry about 340 mb of ram, that is perfectly fine for a phone, ram is meant to be used.
Cyanogen mod on this phone is amazing and android is great with memory management. Android is not like windows and can run perfect even with 20 mb free.
Right now I have 135 mb free and DO NOT use a memory or app killer.
Sent from my I9000m running Cyanogen Mod Nightly
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+1 to that !!
memory isnt such a big deal for android, however storage space is a big deal for the user... the SGS 1 has plenty of internal storage and an external sd card for that little extra if needed.
there are some fantastic ROMs and tweaks for this phone at the moment and its running superb to how it was 6 months ago. it can still keep up with whatever you throw at it.
the screen is the USP its unbeatable for me. and 2.3.3 just been released too so thats also a thumbs up .
but..... if i could afford it, i would go for the SGS 2
i may be saying that because i have had the SGS 1 for 6 months and would like a change, but on the other hand there is not AS much support for the SGS 2 YET, but im sure there will be when more developers upgrade to it.
either way, i would recommend you get a SGS whether it be 1 or 2 you wont regret the decision
Thanks guys... As of now I cant afford SGS 2. BTW, are you sure the updates would continue with SGS I9000? Moreover, which would be better amongst Galaxy S I9000 (16GB) @ $450 or Galaxy SL I9003 (4GB) @ $390?
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My friend just got his phone from unlocked mobiles, i am still waiting for mine from Handtec... argh... but i just got him to check how much free memory he had from looking at advanced task killer and he only had 37MB free!!? Got him to kill everything and he only got about 130MB free in total.
Can other people check theirs to see, because its looking like the same problem that happened with the nexus one where only 256MB of the 512MB RAM was available to use, until they upgrade it to Froyo 2.2 or change the kernal to allow for Hi Mem support.
rubbish if they havent sorted this!
anyone?
ya.. its the same because of the limitation in 2.6.29 kernel not the phone. More reason to bug Samsung to upgrade to froyo or root the device
Yeah i don't think they've fixed it, ,my phone only reports about over 100 meg free.
where do you go to see memory available?
122m Avail. memory using adv task killer.
bugger, i thought they would have at least sorted out the kernal to support himem. if XDA developers can do it for android 2.1 then why cant samsung! very lame and annoying as I have seen my friends phone slow down quite a few times now.
I flashed froyo JPD + voodoo lagfix and my RAM manger shows
191 / 304 MB.
I choosed level 1 and 2 and clean memory, now it is using 144 MB.
I guess it is supposed to show 512 MB.
If I kill everything, 142M free (stock JVK). I used to be able to get ~170M free with JPY...
I'm of the, sometimes controversial, opinion that unused RAM is wasted RAM though and don't really care how much is free - as long there's no lag!
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I'm of the, sometimes controversial, opinion that unused RAM is wasted RAM though and don't really care how much is free - as long there's no lag!
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I have same opinion. We will never see 512mb ram available, as someones may think..we HAVE 512mb ram, but due technical issues, it won't be all usable for us..and as a linux based system, it's good to have mem full as possible. Generally speaking...
There is many topics about ram in xda..with lots of information..
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As far as i can remember, we don't see the whole 512 mb RAM (or at least 400+) because of PowerVR GPU, which reserves a lot of ram for itself.
I've seen other phones that will be released this Q1 or Q2 having 1GB of RAM whilst the Optimus 2X only has 512MB.
I myself have kind of got the feeling that 512MB's would be enough and that 1GB is unnecessary, but I would like your opinions, and maybe an explenation to why 512MB's would be enough?
Since Atrix won't be released in Sweden that pretty much leaves it to Optimus 2X or the Galaxy S2, but the S2 will probably be like 200 dollars more. Would that really be worth the money RAM-wise (other differences doesn't matter that much to me)?
I'm of the mind that 512MB will be fine for the forseeable future. If you consider that the most demanding apps are typically games, and the most impressive games (since GameLoft, Epic etc have signed on with nVidia...) will be developed to Tegra 2 specs, I can't imagine those Tegra 2 specs would preclude running on 512MB of RAM. Following that assumption, by the time 512MB of RAM isn't enough, you will probably be due for an upgrade anyway.
I'm starting to think that the only reason the Atrix has 1GB is because the WebTop mode runs well over 512MB in typical operation. Then, of course, the Galaxy 2 has a gig so that it doesn't look inferior on paper.
Just my conjecturous 2 cents.
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I'm of the mind that 512MB will be fine for the forseeable future. If you consider that the most demanding apps are typically games, and the most impressive games (since GameLoft, Epic etc have signed on with nVidia...) will be developed to Tegra 2 specs, I can't imagine those Tegra 2 specs would preclude running on 512MB of RAM. Following that assumption, by the time 512MB of RAM isn't enough, you will probably be due for an upgrade anyway.
I'm starting to think that the only reason the Atrix has 1GB is because the WebTop mode runs well over 512MB in typical operation. Then, of course, the Galaxy 2 has a gig so that it doesn't look inferior on paper.
Just my conjecturous 2 cents.
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Thanks for your reply! I also thought about the RAM being for the WebTop but then Samsung released the S2 lol.. I would probably agree with you that 512MB will be enough in at least the coming year or so, hell, you can almost run a game like World of Warcraft on 512MB RAM.
Maybe Motorola and Samsung are just putting in hardware that is ahead of the future to atract the customers that want 'the best'. Of course, they are probably slightly better but from what I understand it is kind of hard to fill up 512MB RAM which they also say in Anandtechs review of the Atrix.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview
If only LG could put in at least 768MB I wouldn't have to worry
Have to agree with Sjael about the 512MB of RAM in the Atrix being for the laptop dock. In that preview you posted in the benchmark tests the optimus came out on top of the atrix pretty much every time. So don't let the 512 MB of RAM detour you!
I would not mind 512MB RAM(Actually, you can use only 372MB of ram because of the android system)
512MB ram is not that small, and there is no app that needs more than 512MB.
I'm using Optimus 2X, but 512MB RAM was okay
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I would not mind 512MB RAM(Actually, you can use only 372MB of ram because of the android system)
512MB ram is not that small, and there is no app that needs more than 512MB.
I'm using Optimus 2X, but 512MB RAM was okay
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'Okay' doesn't sound too convincing. Could you tell us about the phone in general? Are you satisfied, how is the battery life etc?
Battery time is simuliar with Samsung Galaxy
LG home sometimes reset after I play some heavy 3D game. I think that its because of RAM, but this problem does not happen if you change your home program
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pokerfake said:
Battery time is simuliar with Samsung Galaxy
LG home sometimes reset after I play some heavy 3D game. I think that its because of RAM, but this problem does not happen if you change your home program
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What about gps ?
GPS is waaay better than Samsung Galaxy S
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pokerfake said:
Battery time is simuliar with Samsung Galaxy
LG home sometimes reset after I play some heavy 3D game. I think that its because of RAM, but this problem does not happen if you change your home program
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The LG launcher doesn't look too attractive anyway so i'll probably go for LauncherPro
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GPS is waaay better than Samsung Galaxy S
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Really ? Oh, this is a great news !
1GB is better than 512MB
but....... i think 512 is enough, also
Well we now have some empirical evidence...
The +64MB RAM kernel gives back 64MB to the user and it makes a *huge* difference to performance in general day to day use for me. I no longer need to use minfreemanager and my launcher and background apps hardly ever get shut down by the system now.
I used to be of the mind that 512 was enough (=372) but with +64 (=436) there's a world of difference.
So, in my experience 512 is a constraint.
Its not the 512mb itself being the limit here, its the way these 512mb are used and how Android is configured to manage the memory by the manufacturer - but yes more ram to work with are allways a benefit.
512mb is plenty in the HTC Desire which default has about 440mb for the user, while the LG only has 372mb (more ram allocated for video than the Desire perhaps ?)
Furthermore the default minfree setting in the Desire is configured to allways leave 140mb free, while the LG is default configured to only leave around 80mb free.
This cause the LG to run low on memory, needing the system to free up memory by shutting down apps that are preloaded, faster and more often than on the Desire.
The extra 64mb you free with the other Kernel can be configured either as more ram for preloadet apps or as just free ram - depending on how agressive you set the minfree setting. The result you get will be a combination of this - if minfree are still set to 80mb then the 64mb are just used to preload more apps, which you will feel as a benefit if switching to one of these preloaded apps, but wont feel as a benefit if you need to run an app that use up more than the free 80mb and which hasnt been preloaded. On the other hand you could divide it and set the minfree setting to 110 and let the rest 34mb be used to preload apps in, that way a running app could use more ram before it would need to shutdown preloaded apps.
I cant say which setting would be the best overall - but for certain the configuration of the memory works better in the Desire than the one in the LG - despite both having 512mb ram
Hello fellow XDA'ers,
I've had my Desire HD for about 10 months & although it's perfectly fine and indeed excellent, apart from the below average battery, I just got bored.
So, a friend of mine has a SGS & I am thinking of swapping with him...
1)Will I notice the RAM difference?
2)Does the pentail screen bother much?
3)How's the sense rom on the SGS?
So what are your thoughts? Did any one convert from a DHD to SGS?
Thank you.
Dont do it! I came from galaxy s to dhd......dhd feels snappier nd much better screen. Plus the sense interface on the dhd is much better than the stupid touchwiz bull**** of the sgs.....wait until u see the browser resolution as well! Horrible....wait.....did i mention samsung's kies software? Well it suckssssss......thats when it really identifies ur phone....although i lost arnd 300$ sellng the sgs nd gettng the dhd.....im not sorry i got rid of that thng
For me SGS is much better than DHD... My gs still perfect even if it is dropped while in mine DHD there are no levers of the volume because were detached.
Perhaps you'll notice that the ram is less but this minority will be satisfied by the fantastic display Super Amoled! The GS also while having 3 megapixel less than camera of dhd take best pictures and video runs much more fluid and detailed ... Just watch it on youtube... Then gs is much more customizable in terms of hacks.
So... Make your choice...
Yeah.
Sgs is a great phone. Borrow your mates for a few days and see.
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I think if you want a phone in such a range you can wait a 2-3 months as samsung is going to launch galaxy w on September 1 Berlin event it will have a 1.4 ghz single core processsor and 3.7 inch screen! If u can't wait for it thrnvuo for galaxy s as it is the best in its price range!
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BHuvan goyal said:
I think if you want a phone in such a range you can wait a 2-3 months as samsung is going to launch galaxy w on September 1 Berlin event it will have a 1.4 ghz single core processsor and 3.7 inch screen! If u can't wait for it thrnvuo for galaxy s as it is the best in its price range!
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its still single-core, not much upgrade except the size and the overclocked cpu.
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its still single-core, not much upgrade except the size and the overclocked cpu.
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Well it depends on the rest of the specs too.
on topic, I love my sgs. The kernels, roms, upgrades, mods, it's a lot of fun to learn about and make as good as possible. I wouldn't trade it for much else. Try out your friends phone and imagine how good it could be.
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Thanks for the reply guys!
The DHD is perfect, but I just got bored and want to try something new.
And I can't buy a new phone, so I am thinking of swapping it....
Guess I'll swap, & maybe we'll re-swap in 4 months again
Hello friends!
I have been using SGS I9003 for about 6 months and brought a SGS I9000 two days back. On comparing both the sets, I realized that I9003 is faster than I9000 although it should be the opposite. Is it because of the extra RAM that I9003 has coz when I checked the RAm, I9003 shows 477MB RAM whereas I9000 shows 337MB RAM. I actually couldnt understand why this difference as the specs of both mobile shows 512MB RAM.
For the info, both are running on custom ROM's. I9003 is running on OsmanFansROM 1.3 based on Android 2.2 XXKB3 whereas I9000 is running on DarkyROM 10.2 JVQ based on Android 2.3.4.
Can someone please explain why this speed difference and is there a way to speed up I9000? Is this difference because of RAM???
Please help...
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Hello friends!
I have been using SGS I9003 for about 6 months and brought a SGS I9000 two days back. On comparing both the sets, I realized that I9003 is faster than I9000 although it should be the opposite. Is it because of the extra RAM that I9003 has coz when I checked the RAm, I9003 shows 477MB RAM whereas I9000 shows 337MB RAM. I actually couldnt understand why this difference as the specs of both mobile shows 512MB RAM.
For the info, both are running on custom ROM's. I9003 is running on OsmanFansROM 1.3 based on Android 2.2 XXKB3 whereas I9000 is running on DarkyROM 10.2 JVQ based on Android 2.3.4.
Can someone please explain why this speed difference and is there a way to speed up I9000? Is this difference because of RAM???
Please help...
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There could be a difference of ROM.Else Ram size is almost same on both. Try flashing the rom of your i9000 and it will work fine.
Hi, did you have respected the good procedure for flashing, I mean with reset data/cache, dalvik etc... before flashing new rom.
Don't think it could be the cause but in case of the base have to be sure
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Yes, I have taken all the care while installing the ROM. The place where I9000 lags behind I9003 is when I try to add a shortcut or widget on the screen. It takes a hell lot of time to open the list.
Unless you have the same number of apps and services running, you can't really compare the free memory, incidentally, how do the quadrant scores compare.
I find it hard to believe you had 477 mb free, that means the phone and gpu were only using about 30 mb, thats impossible I think! The i9000 needs about 170 mb and thats with reduced memory available fire the gpu, I'm confused
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Unless you have the same number of apps and services running, you can't really compare the free memory, incidentally, how do the quadrant scores compare.
I find it hard to believe you had 477 mb free, that means the phone and gpu were only using about 30 mb, thats impossible I think! The i9000 needs about 170 mb and thats with reduced memory available fire the gpu, I'm confused
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No, its not 477 MB free but total memory. Free memory obviously depend on the number of running apps. Both the phones have more or less the same apps installed. As for the quadrant score, I will submit the same today after checking...
The quadrant scores are as follows :
I9000 scores (5 tests)
1780
2255
2292
2353
2352
I9003 scores (5 tests)
1057
1287
1218
1345
1409
As per the scores, I9000 is a clear winner by far but practically using, I9003 is beating I9000 everywhere.
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Flash rom really helps. Also, do not put too many widgets on desktop. Then, i9000 will be very fast
Then whats the use of using such phone. As such, the same widgets are present in I9003 also and its absolutely smooth. Btw, i haven't installed too many softwares or widgets.
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Rom modifications play only a minor, placebo role in speed and lag. The main reason for lag in the galaxy s is lack of ram. When ram is low, the system has to shut down several processes in the background, starting them back up again afterwards, hence causing the lag.
This is the reason why i switch to cm7 rom...
Together with AMO, it makes a GREAT combination...
KIndly take screenshots of your running services and post it here. Then you can get a better picture.
on the specs, it says GS1 has 512mb of RAM. I know android OS takes space phone it self blah blah so we only get to use 3xx mb of RAM. but then usually half (if not more) of the 3xx mb of RAM is already filled!
before, (back in eclair & froyo days) android 2.3 will allow us to utilize ALL 512mb but ****, now even more RAM is in use..
also
someone told me Nexus S who has exact same specs as GS, can use ALL 512mb...
so is there a way to use all 512mb of RAM? or at least more than 329mb?
joonair said:
on the specs, it says GS1 has 512mb of RAM. I know android OS takes space phone it self blah blah so we only get to use 3xx mb of RAM. but then usually half (if not more) of the 3xx mb of RAM is already filled!
before, (back in eclair & froyo days) android 2.3 will allow us to utilize ALL 512mb but ****, now even more RAM is in use..
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someone told me Nexus S who has exact same specs as GS, can use ALL 512mb...
so is there a way to use all 512mb of RAM? or at least more than 329mb?
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You do use all the RAM, Android users shouldn't be worried about RAM as it is good to be used... Now Samsung's excuse for updating the GS1 to ICS is bull. but the reason you get 329 MB of RAM is because that 183 MB of RAM is for the system and cannot be given to the user. There are some kernels that offer like 344 MB of RAM(for Froyo), but that is it. No more, no less. Can't change it! Sorry bud.
Edit- we always are utilizing all 512 MB of RAM always. And when half of it is filled, that is always going to be there if the phone is turned on as some none system apps and system apps cannot be closed and are needed for the device to function.
I just recently got myself a Samsung Infuse, really like the phone. One thing that really bugs me is that it appears to be the same as my captivate in terms of RAM and ROM space, yet on my Infuse i get access to 452MB RAM yet on my captivate as stated we only get access to 329MB or 344MB.
Why such the huge difference?