Why is my SGS I9000 so slow? - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello friends!
I have been using SGS I9003 for about 6 months and brought a SGS I9000 two days back. On comparing both the sets, I realized that I9003 is faster than I9000 although it should be the opposite. Is it because of the extra RAM that I9003 has coz when I checked the RAm, I9003 shows 477MB RAM whereas I9000 shows 337MB RAM. I actually couldnt understand why this difference as the specs of both mobile shows 512MB RAM.
For the info, both are running on custom ROM's. I9003 is running on OsmanFansROM 1.3 based on Android 2.2 XXKB3 whereas I9000 is running on DarkyROM 10.2 JVQ based on Android 2.3.4.
Can someone please explain why this speed difference and is there a way to speed up I9000? Is this difference because of RAM???
Please help...

go4saket said:
Hello friends!
I have been using SGS I9003 for about 6 months and brought a SGS I9000 two days back. On comparing both the sets, I realized that I9003 is faster than I9000 although it should be the opposite. Is it because of the extra RAM that I9003 has coz when I checked the RAm, I9003 shows 477MB RAM whereas I9000 shows 337MB RAM. I actually couldnt understand why this difference as the specs of both mobile shows 512MB RAM.
For the info, both are running on custom ROM's. I9003 is running on OsmanFansROM 1.3 based on Android 2.2 XXKB3 whereas I9000 is running on DarkyROM 10.2 JVQ based on Android 2.3.4.
Can someone please explain why this speed difference and is there a way to speed up I9000? Is this difference because of RAM???
Please help...
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There could be a difference of ROM.Else Ram size is almost same on both. Try flashing the rom of your i9000 and it will work fine.

Hi, did you have respected the good procedure for flashing, I mean with reset data/cache, dalvik etc... before flashing new rom.
Don't think it could be the cause but in case of the base have to be sure
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Yes, I have taken all the care while installing the ROM. The place where I9000 lags behind I9003 is when I try to add a shortcut or widget on the screen. It takes a hell lot of time to open the list.

Unless you have the same number of apps and services running, you can't really compare the free memory, incidentally, how do the quadrant scores compare.
I find it hard to believe you had 477 mb free, that means the phone and gpu were only using about 30 mb, thats impossible I think! The i9000 needs about 170 mb and thats with reduced memory available fire the gpu, I'm confused
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gsw5700 said:
Unless you have the same number of apps and services running, you can't really compare the free memory, incidentally, how do the quadrant scores compare.
I find it hard to believe you had 477 mb free, that means the phone and gpu were only using about 30 mb, thats impossible I think! The i9000 needs about 170 mb and thats with reduced memory available fire the gpu, I'm confused
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No, its not 477 MB free but total memory. Free memory obviously depend on the number of running apps. Both the phones have more or less the same apps installed. As for the quadrant score, I will submit the same today after checking...

The quadrant scores are as follows :
I9000 scores (5 tests)
1780
2255
2292
2353
2352
I9003 scores (5 tests)
1057
1287
1218
1345
1409
As per the scores, I9000 is a clear winner by far but practically using, I9003 is beating I9000 everywhere.
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Flash rom really helps. Also, do not put too many widgets on desktop. Then, i9000 will be very fast

Then whats the use of using such phone. As such, the same widgets are present in I9003 also and its absolutely smooth. Btw, i haven't installed too many softwares or widgets.
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Rom modifications play only a minor, placebo role in speed and lag. The main reason for lag in the galaxy s is lack of ram. When ram is low, the system has to shut down several processes in the background, starting them back up again afterwards, hence causing the lag.

This is the reason why i switch to cm7 rom...
Together with AMO, it makes a GREAT combination...

KIndly take screenshots of your running services and post it here. Then you can get a better picture.

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How much RAM is free on your galaxy s? No himem kernal support

My friend just got his phone from unlocked mobiles, i am still waiting for mine from Handtec... argh... but i just got him to check how much free memory he had from looking at advanced task killer and he only had 37MB free!!? Got him to kill everything and he only got about 130MB free in total.
Can other people check theirs to see, because its looking like the same problem that happened with the nexus one where only 256MB of the 512MB RAM was available to use, until they upgrade it to Froyo 2.2 or change the kernal to allow for Hi Mem support.
rubbish if they havent sorted this!
anyone?
ya.. its the same because of the limitation in 2.6.29 kernel not the phone. More reason to bug Samsung to upgrade to froyo or root the device
Yeah i don't think they've fixed it, ,my phone only reports about over 100 meg free.
where do you go to see memory available?
122m Avail. memory using adv task killer.
bugger, i thought they would have at least sorted out the kernal to support himem. if XDA developers can do it for android 2.1 then why cant samsung! very lame and annoying as I have seen my friends phone slow down quite a few times now.
I flashed froyo JPD + voodoo lagfix and my RAM manger shows
191 / 304 MB.
I choosed level 1 and 2 and clean memory, now it is using 144 MB.
I guess it is supposed to show 512 MB.
If I kill everything, 142M free (stock JVK). I used to be able to get ~170M free with JPY...
I'm of the, sometimes controversial, opinion that unused RAM is wasted RAM though and don't really care how much is free - as long there's no lag!
Valeo said:
I'm of the, sometimes controversial, opinion that unused RAM is wasted RAM though and don't really care how much is free - as long there's no lag!
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I have same opinion. We will never see 512mb ram available, as someones may think..we HAVE 512mb ram, but due technical issues, it won't be all usable for us..and as a linux based system, it's good to have mem full as possible. Generally speaking...
There is many topics about ram in xda..with lots of information..
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209\329, jvk
As far as i can remember, we don't see the whole 512 mb RAM (or at least 400+) because of PowerVR GPU, which reserves a lot of ram for itself.

Milestone available memory :(

My milestone run MIUI rom 1.7.8. Available memory is about 20-30 MB , so when I opened camera and taked a picture, It stucked there for a couple minutes. Then I rebooted my phone and Available memory is 40-50 MB, and nothing wrong with the camera ?? How can I fix the memory problem?? please help
Sorry for my English
I do believe that's because when you had 20~30 mb free, there were many others apps running in memory.
The camera app froze the phone 'cause it had no free memory.
When you restarted your phone you had more free memory because you were not running all those app you probably were before.
Sucks, but Milestone's memory is really low
felipefill said:
I do believe that's because when you had 20~30 mb free, there were many others apps running in memory.
The camera app froze the phone 'cause it had no free memory.
When you restarted your phone you had more free memory because you were not running all those app you probably were before.
Sucks, but Milestone's memory is really low
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No man, I open task killer and kill everything. When I bought it , It had about 150 MB free memory man . So confuse ??
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mtnhan1996 said:
No man, I open task killer and kill everything. When I bought it , It had about 150 MB free memory man . So confuse ??
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Ok clearly you are new to milestone. The thing is when you bought the phone it was probably running 2.1 eclair or 2.0 which uses very little ram: it had the least features (no jit or a2sd) hence it's the lightest on ram. However you have to understand that since froyo google has been trying to add more features to android and use exisitng resources to boost performance and since Google's flagship phone at the time of froyo was the nexus one (which had 512mb of ram whereas the milestoen only has 256mb of ram) and so they used ram to boost performance which is essentiall what JIT is. So there's an issue. The milestone is already short on ram and 2.2/2.3 uses more ram which is why they are sometimes slower (not all, something like froyo mod or cronos ginger/ho!no! is bloody fast) which is why you have less free ram.
but over to MIUI which has even MORE features than stock gb which means it uses up even MORE ram which is why you have so little free ram. use this script, it should help the ram issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
thre3aces said:
Ok clearly you are new to milestone. The thing is when you bought the phone it was probably running 2.1 eclair or 2.0 which uses very little ram: it had the least features (no jit or a2sd) hence it's the lightest on ram. However you have to understand that since froyo google has been trying to add more features to android and use exisitng resources to boost performance and since Google's flagship phone at the time of froyo was the nexus one (which had 512mb of ram whereas the milestoen only has 256mb of ram) and so they used ram to boost performance which is essentiall what JIT is. So there's an issue. The milestone is already short on ram and 2.2/2.3 uses more ram which is why they are sometimes slower (not all, something like froyo mod or cronos ginger/ho!no! is bloody fast) which is why you have less free ram.
but over to MIUI which has even MORE features than stock gb which means it uses up even MORE ram which is why you have so little free ram. use this script, it should help the ram issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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Thank you very much, so now I got 2 options ,right? I can flash froyo mod instead of MIUI or I can use the script to icrease ram a little bit huh?
mtnhan1996 said:
Thank you very much, so now I got 2 options ,right? I can flash froyo mod instead of MIUI or I can use the script to icrease ram a little bit huh?
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well yes and no. in my experience you can have miui with zepplinrox's script but still only have around 30-45mb of free ram whereas on froyomod you can get far more.
I liked using cronos ginger but the thing is feeyo's roms have a lot of bugs and arent updated to the latest sources which is why they are usually a little bit behind.
Cronos GB 1.5.0 is really fast. And yes, it has bugs, but nothing impossible to live with.
This is the fastest GB rom I've tried ..
thre3aces said:
well yes and no. in my experience you can have miui with zepplinrox's script but still only have around 30-45mb of free ram whereas on froyomod you can get far more.
I liked using cronos ginger but the thing is feeyo's roms have a lot of bugs and arent updated to the latest sources which is why they are usually a little bit behind.
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With the script, you can use slot 3 to choose how much free ram you want.
Performance levels out beyond 30mb free tho.
And android will make more ram available if needed anyway.
I use Froyomod and I have around 37 MB free after startup. I tried to play Cut the rope but it keeps killing it. Also happens with Google Maps. Could this be a problem of low memory?
ruisan said:
I use Froyomod and I have around 37 MB free after startup. I tried to play Cut the rope but it keeps killing it. Also happens with Google Maps. Could this be a problem of low memory?
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yea it is. but if your on froyomod why not try to use advanced task killer and zepplinrox's supercharger

Is it just me, or is Froyo faster than Gingerbread?

When I bought my galaxy s, it was on a 2.2 rom, though I don't remember the exact name. After a while, I flashed it with ZSJPK 2.2.1. Then, I went on to use JVP, JVQ and now, JVR. However, I felt that 2.2 and ZSJPK were both smoother and less laggy than JVP and JVQ. JVR is nearly as smooth as the two froyos, but it's RAM drops to very low levels, 70-80Mb after a day's usage. So, my question is, does anyone else experience such a thing in which their froyo roms were faster/less laggy? Or could it be that I somehow missed something when flashing the gingerbread roms? Thanks.
Why do you care about the RAM being "so low". Memory management works different in Linux than on MS systems. Android (or the underlying linux kernel) keeps apps in memory as long as possible to make a re-start of the app faster. As soon as the memory is needed by a different app, the memory is freed anyway.
My desktop with 4 GB RAM does the same on Linux: 64 MB are free, but if I take buffers and cache into account 1900 MB are available in case an application needs it....
I experienced a better battery life with smoother operation in every day use after installing GB (I guess first that was I9000XXJVK). This got only better with JVH, JVO, JVP, JVQ, JVR and now JVS.
I wouldn't care about the RAM, actually. But whenever my free RAM drops to below 80Mb or so, the phone begins to lag, because it has to close certain processes in order to start up the apps. Also, when the RAM is low and when I try to play certain HD games like the gameloft ones, the phone sometimes crashes.
elhennig said:
Why do you care about the RAM being "so low". Memory management works different in Linux than on MS systems. Android (or the underlying linux kernel) keeps apps in memory as long as possible to make a re-start of the app faster. As soon as the memory is needed by a different app, the memory is freed anyway.
My desktop with 4 GB RAM does the same on Linux: 64 MB are free, but if I take buffers and cache into account 1900 MB are available in case an application needs it....
I experienced a better battery life with smoother operation in every day use after installing GB (I guess first that was I9000XXJVK). This got only better with JVH, JVO, JVP, JVQ, JVR and now JVS.
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An Android with free ram available is still much faster than an Android phone that continues to swap.
I've done tests in regards to this in System Panel. Plus on occasion whenever I clear my Dalvic Cache, I usually double my memory in System Panel, and my phone feels like "day 1" fast...
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ccrows said:
An Android with free ram available is still much faster than an Android phone that continues to swap.
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Where should the mem be swapped to? Android does not swap if there is no swap device or file specified.
elhennig said:
Where should the mem be swapped to? Android does not swap if there is no swap device or file specified.
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I'm saying that there is a benefit to freeing up ram...
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ccrows said:
I'm saying that there is a benefit to freeing up ram...
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Yeah, it's beneficial to have free RAM rather than to have to free up the RAM when you need it. If you already have free RAM, running a new application is fast, but if you don't, you cpu needs to free some RAM first before it can load a new application, hence causing some lagginess. That's what I meant when I said that froyo seemed faster, especially after a day of usage.
I was using Froyo for quite a long time before giving a chance to Gingerbread. And I must say I regret I didn't give a chance to GB earlier as the phone is "flying" now. At least for me it was a good switch. When I bought my SGS it was on 2.1 (Eclair) which was a real laggy disaster.
stiwipl said:
I was using Froyo for quite a long time before giving a chance to Gingerbread. And I must say I regret I didn't give a chance to GB earlier as the phone is "flying" now. At least for me it was a good switch. When I bought my SGS it was on 2.1 (Eclair) which was a real laggy disaster.
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Which froyo build were you using? Because the earlier froyos, ie 2.2, were rather lousy. I'm comparing 2.2.1 with 2.3.4

[Q] How to get Angry Birds Space to run well

Does anybody know of a way to get Angry Birds Space to run well? It is the only app that stutters and hangs quite often on my Captivate. I usually have to pull my battery because my phone completely locks up if I launch it and try playing it.
which rom are you using im using Doc masters and it runs smooth for me
Im using Legend 3.7 and RFS filesystem
AOKP build 31 bigmem. runs butter smooth for me
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Nostalgia ICS - no probs whatsoever with Space Angry Birds.
I guess it could be something I have running in the background then since all of those other roms work fine with it.
Edit: It looks like you are all running ICS roms, im not.
You could overclock or just change the way your processor is being used like setting to lagfree or something like that
Decraptivated Samsung
Got the exact setup Legend 3.7 on rfs runs fine. might be an app killing your ram.
I have 66 of 329MB free RAM. What are you guys at?
I'm at 221 of 329 =108
Sorry for the stupid question, but how are you all at 329 usable RAM? I am running Legend 3.7 with corn 7.06 and under Running Services i'm only totaling 277
Runs fine on Slim. I've found everything runs better for me on ICS ROMs.
emarek1986 said:
Sorry for the stupid question, but how are you all at 329 usable RAM? I am running Legend 3.7 with corn 7.06 and under Running Services i'm only totaling 277
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329 is what Android System Info (the app) is showing for Max Ram. Running Services shows me a total of 238MB (used+free).
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Runs fine on Slim. I've found everything runs better for me on ICS ROMs.
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How do the ICS roms handle the buttons along the bottom? Do they get ignored for the new on scsreen ones?
kevria said:
How do the ICS roms handle the buttons along the bottom? Do they get ignored for the new on scsreen ones?
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Nope they work like they always did on Samsung roms. You can choose whether or not you want the on screen ics buttons or not, but the regular buttons ALWAYS work fine . You should upgrade to ICS, I can even play temple run without any lag (always lagged on Samsung TouchWiz roms to a certain point). Try Cyanogenmod 9 or AOKP.
It works just fine over here on miui gb with glitch kernel overclocked to 1.3 ghz, and also had no issues on previous gb roms. As a previous poster advised you so will I, if ur facing lag be sure to clear ram before running the game and ultimately overclock if lag persist, also try out different kernels (talon,dark core,xcal's).
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It works just fine over here on miui gb with glitch kernel overclocked to 1.3 ghz, and also had no issues on previous gb roms. As a previous poster advised you so will I, if ur facing lag be sure to clear ram before running the game and ultimately overclock if lag persist, also try out different kernels (talon,dark core,xcal's).
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I switched from samurai to Corn 3.6 to see if that would help but havent had a chance to test it (maybe this weekend).
Edit: Its no better with Corn 3.6
kevria said:
I have 66 of 329MB free RAM. What are you guys at?
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I have 341MB of ram with Serenidipty 7. And Angry Birds Space runs smooth.
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kevria said:
I switched from samurai to Corn 3.6 to see if that would help but havent had a chance to test it (maybe this weekend).
Edit: Its no better with Corn 3.6
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Sry to hear, btw the latest corn it's at vs 7.06 so be sure to try that, look for it in the development section. Also in cwm recovery corn should have a tweak option setting, and within tweaks u can overclock, or just grab voltage control app from the market to make the necessary changes.
edit:
To be sure I just checked how much ram the game uses while running ,holy crap, it needs 100 mb
So I'm pretty sure that ur facing lag due to lack of ram (stop running and also cached procceses in the task manager to free up ram).
Limitz Cash said:
I have 341MB of ram with Serenidipty 7. And Angry Birds Space runs smooth.
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The rom has nothing to do with the amount of ram, it's all kernel. U are probably on talon's bigmem kernel.
Slim ICS 3.2, very smooth, not lag.
On ICS, i don't need to care how much free RAM which I have.

Galaxy S or S Plus - Which to buy?

Hi guys,
So i watched a couple of videos about this device being able to run some graphic intensive games using a ROM called HellyBean or smth like that. So because im abit into gaming but not that much, which device is preferred to buy if Im into gaming. Usually, i use my phone for social networking apps and some gaming like Asphalt, Dead Space etc... Also, i rmb that the S Plus had the same hardware as my old Galaxy Wonder but its still laggy in games. SO is this phone suitable for meh? I have about 120USD/88EUR/150SGD to spend so recommend me other device D
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S plus you can get. Not much difference between them. S plus MSM8255T 1400MHz Qualcomm processor. Galaxy S ARM Cortex A8 processor 1000MHz. S plus = HSDPA (14.4 Mbps). Galaxy S = HSDPA (7.2 Mbps).
Sorry bad English.
S might have a better developer support. I have it running well for 4 years now. And now on Kit Kat. Cheers
s has good dev support but s plus has a bit more RAM
I would go for the plus. Running KitKat on it now. Very good.
Hmm, I watched a YouTube video about this guy who was using his Galaxy S to play really intensed games like MC4 & Asphalt 8 at full graphics. I rmb he enabled Zram and used HellyBean. Does the Galaxy S Plus also handles the same perfomance? Or isit better even without zram and that ROM?
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I have the "S plus" and would by it again
I have got the i9001 "plus" for several years now and i realy love it. There is a great developer community and KitKat is quite stable on it.
The only problem is the small amount of RAM but as far as i know its the same on i9000.
yea 100mb free ram on i9000
100% s plus
It has better look and material
ali_haghparast said:
100% s plus
It has better look and material
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Really? I thought both are similar except specs differ.
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Surely I think Galaxy S i9000 is better!!almost always the first models are better than they come after that.
TiTAN-O-One said:
SO is this phone suitable for meh? I have about 120USD/88EUR/150SGD to spend so recommend me other device D
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Many differences betwin i9000 and i9001. On stock rom they are not actual now. On custom rom i9000 is better, i think. i9000 supported tv-out on modern custom roms, i9001 does not supporting tv-out on custom roms. i9000 have one of the finest audiochip Wolfson, it give you very good sound quality, i9001 have not Wolfson chip. With hellybean rom on i9000 you get up to 439Mb RAM, i9001 about 400Mb max. 3D performance of PowerVRSGX540(i9000) is more then Adreno205 (i9001). i9000 support usb otg host (with ext power), i9001 have not supporting usb otg.
But i recommended you look to Samsung Galaxy SII, cause it have 1Gb RAM. 512Mb ram not actual in the last modern games.
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Really? I thought both are similar except specs differ.
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sorry dude I think you said I9070
Pls dont buy these devices at that time there a better cheap alternatives.
From my i9000

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