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Best android version 2.0, 2.1,2.2 or 2.3

Hi there
I am trying to organise a discussion on which android release is best for the milestone/droid. When comparing try and talk about:speed, usability, gaming, battery life and so forth.
P.s anyone getting lagging 3d gaming on gb?
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choudu1 said:
Hi there
I am trying to organise a discussion on which android release is best for the milestone/droid. When comparing try and talk about:speed, usability, gaming, battery life and so forth.
P.s anyone getting lagging 3d gaming on gb?
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Best overall experience performance/game/battery-wise is Eclair (2.1) for sure. If you don't mind loosing some features on GMAPS and not getting the latest GMAIL client. But you need a good sd-card and sd-ext or just not use much apps on the phone, as eclair doesn't support app2sd natively. Ah, good old time where I could play Angry Birds, pause it, open You Tube, watch a video, go back to Angry Birds which was still loaded in memory, no need to reload everything and start again....

I've heard bout that. Honestly I would go back to eclair if it wasn't for the lack of flash and apps2sd. I really don't understand what makes gb so slow
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i think the best blance between features and snappynes is 2.2 . it has a lot of additional features and it runs good. i personally love 2.3 because of the look (im a big fan of the screen-off animation) but its too slow.

Interesting. I know this sounds stupid but what's actually new in 2.2 (excluding jit and apps2sd). And on 2.1 shouldn't that be the best for gaming if you can find a rom that has jit and supports ext2. And can't you get flash from the market anyways?
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JIT takes up a lot of RAM that Milestone doesn't have =)
best performance is still Eclair... Official Froyo is laggy...

choudu1 said:
Interesting. I know this sounds stupid but what's actually new in 2.2 (excluding jit and apps2sd). And on 2.1 shouldn't that be the best for gaming if you can find a rom that has jit and supports ext2. And can't you get flash from the market anyways?
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From what I have heard, Eclair has a 30FPS cap, so my favorite would be Froyo. I disable JIT on all ROMs as I don't notice much of a difference.
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But surely 30fps is still rather smooth
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Hi guys !
I'm a new owner of Motorola Milestone and mine came with stock 2.2.1 Froyo installed.
The thing is that despite having Froyo the interface looks just like 2.0. Main screen contains old grey tab that slides up the screen to reveal apps, camera interface is old too and there is no tethering.
I've already checked motorola update software to see if there's anything new, but apparently not and right now I don't have time to root the phone to install custom ROM (2.2 or 2.3). Is there anything I can do to get the new interface working?

Hi, have you tried Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 b4?
I just installed Plants vs Zombies on my Milestone.
No problems on my Milestone running Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 (with my Autokiller Memory settings).
See this video below:
http://youtu.be/tmCMIKdrjGE
I have also played Modern Combat 2 on the same ROM too and have completed the game.

Isn't the Cronos Ginger a custom ROM that needs rooted phone ?
Sorry for such a question, but I'm new to the subject.

pcphobic said:
Hi, have you tried Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 b4?
I just installed Plants vs Zombies on my Milestone.
No problems on my Milestone running Cronos Ginger ver.1.4 (with my Autokiller Memory settings).
See this video below:
http://youtu.be/tmCMIKdrjGE
I have also played Modern Combat 2 on the same ROM too and have completed the game.
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This is not official version (from PopCap). Official needs about 180mb ram free to run.
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wFqYRzC2fc and see difference.
Modern Combat 2 is working fine with 80-90mb ram free.

But still, has anyone met with such issue when stock froyo has an old interface a'la 2.0 ?

Get ADW launcher from the market. It is the lightest launcher for motorola milstoen

guys ive noticed something.
Of all the roms i think cronos runs the FASTEST. but the launchers seem to lag quite a lot. On miui (laggiest milestone rom) adw is fine(ish). But on cronos it lags
EDIT: Hmmm just checked my phone again. The lag is getting better. Spooky

Android 2.2 keeps alot apps in memory and I task killers like Adao doesn't works as good as it works on 2.1. I miss 2.1 but I'm loving the new apps on 2.2 but the memory management system is poor.

lol that video of PvZ is pathetic. My iPod Touch 4G runs that smoking smooth on its 256mb ram + 800mhz processor and retina display.
The milestone simply cannot do it.
With that said, a 512mb device can do it MUCH better. Even my Nexus S struggles since it only boots with 100mb free. A lot of crap gets killed.
I don't get why Android apps need SO MUCH RAM.

So which version actually uses the smallest amount of RAM?
Right now I'm on 2.2.1 and most of the time I have about 40MB free.

Well, it's not really about how much RAM is free, it's more like how much RAM can be freed in case you need it. So, be it Eclair or Froyo, you get around 30-40 megs free, but Eclair can free 120MB easy, without killing essential apps, while Froyo can do 85-90 with JIT and 100-105 without JIT. Unfortunatelly it is exactly those 15-20MB of RAM that we need to keep out home screen alive, or read and SMS without killing Angry Birds.

And how about Gingerbread? I'm currently waiting for new 'RTM' version of CyanogenMod 7.1 from Nadlabak and I think I'll give it a try.

Is it just me, or is Froyo faster than Gingerbread?

When I bought my galaxy s, it was on a 2.2 rom, though I don't remember the exact name. After a while, I flashed it with ZSJPK 2.2.1. Then, I went on to use JVP, JVQ and now, JVR. However, I felt that 2.2 and ZSJPK were both smoother and less laggy than JVP and JVQ. JVR is nearly as smooth as the two froyos, but it's RAM drops to very low levels, 70-80Mb after a day's usage. So, my question is, does anyone else experience such a thing in which their froyo roms were faster/less laggy? Or could it be that I somehow missed something when flashing the gingerbread roms? Thanks.

Why do you care about the RAM being "so low". Memory management works different in Linux than on MS systems. Android (or the underlying linux kernel) keeps apps in memory as long as possible to make a re-start of the app faster. As soon as the memory is needed by a different app, the memory is freed anyway.
My desktop with 4 GB RAM does the same on Linux: 64 MB are free, but if I take buffers and cache into account 1900 MB are available in case an application needs it....
I experienced a better battery life with smoother operation in every day use after installing GB (I guess first that was I9000XXJVK). This got only better with JVH, JVO, JVP, JVQ, JVR and now JVS.

I wouldn't care about the RAM, actually. But whenever my free RAM drops to below 80Mb or so, the phone begins to lag, because it has to close certain processes in order to start up the apps. Also, when the RAM is low and when I try to play certain HD games like the gameloft ones, the phone sometimes crashes.

elhennig said:
Why do you care about the RAM being "so low". Memory management works different in Linux than on MS systems. Android (or the underlying linux kernel) keeps apps in memory as long as possible to make a re-start of the app faster. As soon as the memory is needed by a different app, the memory is freed anyway.
My desktop with 4 GB RAM does the same on Linux: 64 MB are free, but if I take buffers and cache into account 1900 MB are available in case an application needs it....
I experienced a better battery life with smoother operation in every day use after installing GB (I guess first that was I9000XXJVK). This got only better with JVH, JVO, JVP, JVQ, JVR and now JVS.
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An Android with free ram available is still much faster than an Android phone that continues to swap.
I've done tests in regards to this in System Panel. Plus on occasion whenever I clear my Dalvic Cache, I usually double my memory in System Panel, and my phone feels like "day 1" fast...
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ccrows said:
An Android with free ram available is still much faster than an Android phone that continues to swap.
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Where should the mem be swapped to? Android does not swap if there is no swap device or file specified.

elhennig said:
Where should the mem be swapped to? Android does not swap if there is no swap device or file specified.
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I'm saying that there is a benefit to freeing up ram...
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ccrows said:
I'm saying that there is a benefit to freeing up ram...
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Yeah, it's beneficial to have free RAM rather than to have to free up the RAM when you need it. If you already have free RAM, running a new application is fast, but if you don't, you cpu needs to free some RAM first before it can load a new application, hence causing some lagginess. That's what I meant when I said that froyo seemed faster, especially after a day of usage.

I was using Froyo for quite a long time before giving a chance to Gingerbread. And I must say I regret I didn't give a chance to GB earlier as the phone is "flying" now. At least for me it was a good switch. When I bought my SGS it was on 2.1 (Eclair) which was a real laggy disaster.

stiwipl said:
I was using Froyo for quite a long time before giving a chance to Gingerbread. And I must say I regret I didn't give a chance to GB earlier as the phone is "flying" now. At least for me it was a good switch. When I bought my SGS it was on 2.1 (Eclair) which was a real laggy disaster.
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Which froyo build were you using? Because the earlier froyos, ie 2.2, were rather lousy. I'm comparing 2.2.1 with 2.3.4

ICS on 512MB a problem?

Just wondering... is 512MB going to be a problem with ICS?
(It's a simple question I know)

Scougar said:
Just wondering... is 512MB going to be a problem with ICS?
(It's a simple question I know)
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I'm writing this from CM9 ICS alpha and runs perfect, don't worry for that
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No, it shouldn't be a problem.
But please post such things in the ICS discussion thread!

Flix123 said:
No, it shouldn't be a problem.
But please post such things in the ICS discussion thread!
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Thanks and apologies. I had wondered if getting a 1GB model phone would have been a significant advantage.
(Mod feel free to move the question to a post in the discussion thread).

Scougar said:
Thanks and apologies. I had wondered if getting a 1GB model phone would have been a significant advantage.
(Mod feel free to move the question to a post in the discussion thread).
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You can almost guarantee that a 1GB model will be better. The Optimus 2X does struggle with it's 512 mb, because 128mb is attributed to the GPU. Lukily, some kernels, like IronKrnl free some of that memory up and give it back to the CPU, but it's still losing 80mb.
Also, it's worth noting that, if you want to run ICS, if you look at the phones out that have 1gb of ram, you'll see they're all actually better phones- especially what Samsung make.
So, while the O2X is a cheap dual-core device. The best experience will come with something with 1gb of RAM, as it's much more likely to also get ICS. (Due in part because most 1gb phones have already had an announcement, and for it to be soon)

ICS is very hungry in memory. On my Asus Tablet running official, my 1GB RAM is fully used, as usual in Linux but at a higher level than in GB.
To run ICS correctly on O2X, you must use IronKrnl, the 48mb ramhack version is correct (means it steals 48MB to GPU, leaving only 80MB to it), and modifying memory killer values to a sort of aggressive profile.

Yea right, so this is why I had less free memory on GB. And now I have CM kernel on ICS. I doubt you actually tried CM9 alpha on O2X if you are talking crap like this about performance.
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The browser in ICS works better even though we have 512MB. It always returned to where I had left. 512 and less is enough for full desktop environments on PC even.

Ph4nt0m_ said:
Yea right, so this is why I had less free memory on GB. And now I have CM kernel on ICS. I doubt you actually tried CM9 alpha on O2X if you are talking crap like this about performance.
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See my sig and stop arguing. I run CM9 since first day Ricardo published SK0, and now running SK2 with latest Ironkrnl. Setiron himself admitted on Google+that ICS is a memory eater.

Dont know how much free memory we're talking about here but I'm on SK2 with original CM9 kernel. Using Adv.Task Killer from time to time and I always have around 200-240 Mb free memory. Just sharing my experience

Running CM9 aswell and its sooooo smooth, faster than any rom ive tried

OK, so what happens when you want to run Tegra games? (like Dungeon Defenders for example). A shame you cannot dynamically set the ram hack :-(

Scougar said:
OK, so what happens when you want to run Tegra games? (like Dungeon Defenders for example). A shame you cannot dynamically set the ram hack :-(
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That's the real question... Free memory when phone is idle means nothing. Plus you have to consider the lowmemkiller values you have set, I personnally use aggressive values: 16 24 32 90 100 110 to free the most possible memory.
Many users report freezes with games that run perfectly on GB. The problem or ramhack is choosing the right value for gaming, it seems 48mb version is the best compromise. A 'on the fly' feature was not planned for the moment by Setiron in one of his G+ posts.

Mjuksel said:
Running CM9 aswell and its sooooo smooth, faster than any rom ive tried
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That has no direct link with OP. But it's true it's smooth lol.

Striatum_bdr said:
That has no direct link with OP. But it's true it's smooth lol.
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It does. In low memory situations ICS seems to keep running better and smoother compared to GB. If you get under 40mb free on GB everythings gets very slow, with ICS it seems to handle it a bit more elegantly from a user experience.

Please don't think I'm pesimistic here, I'm just going off the comments: Given that OEM releases tend to be bloated and memory wasteful, it's not looking great for an LG ICS release that is 'fully' working. If they pull it off and allow tegra games to run, then I'll be impressed

the official release from LG should be more efficient, and once you remove bloatwares, it should be quite a charm

Hi,
The Google Nexus S also has only 512Mb, and a certain amount of those allocated to GPU (though I don't remember how many), and ICS works like a charm on it... So I think it shouldn't be a problem on our O2X! :-D

hearoy said:
Hi,
The Google Nexus S also has only 512Mb, and a certain amount of those allocated to GPU (though I don't remember how many), and ICS works like a charm on it... So I think it shouldn't be a problem on our O2X! :-D
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It has the same config (128 for the GPU, 384 of available RAM) and works really fine.
Obviously a full gigabyte would be awesome.
Cheers!

Im typing using my optimus one running icss.
NOTE: my phone can only be over clocked till 729mhz.
So for our 2x it will be no prob.
Just need propriety files.
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[Q] [kernel][rom] Im looking for best kernel or rom for playing games on my captivate

I like playing games on my captivate but from time to time it laggs and sometimes it plays smooth sometimes its even unplayable i am using 2.3.5 Stock rom with corn kernel. Iv tried to use clear ram before i start any application but after some time i can recongnize the lag agin.
By the way the lag is not constant it just appears from time to time but it suck for gaming -.- Anyone have any idea ?

galemk said:
I like playing games on my captivate but from time to time it laggs and sometimes it plays smooth sometimes its even unplayable i am using 2.3.5 Stock rom with corn kernel. Iv tried to use clear ram before i start any application but after some time i can recongnize the lag agin.
By the way the lag is not constant it just appears from time to time but it suck for gaming -.- Anyone have any idea ?
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I'm using slim ICS rom and a kernrl with like 399 open ram, ill link you if you want
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CM
Try a cyanogenmod build with the glitch Kernel, you can OC up to like 1.7 gHz and then install Chanfire3D from app market and tweak that to give you a great gaming experience, it might even let you run Tegra Games, good luck!

Actually on Glitch 14.1 you can reach 2.1GHz But I, one who has a crazy good processor, can only reach 1.9GHz
I can try later to get farther

b-eock said:
Actually on Glitch 14.1 you can reach 2.1GHz But I, one who has a crazy good processor, can only reach 1.9GHz
I can try later to get farther
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How do you put Glitch 14.1 on the captivate?
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Semaphore or IcyGlitch kernel.
Any ICS ROM. Just remove extra background apps.

rolltide1995 said:
How do you put Glitch 14.1 on the captivate?
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I am 100% sure there is a glitch kernel thread in the captivate forum
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RemICS ROM
galemk said:
I like playing games on my captivate but from time to time it laggs and sometimes it plays smooth sometimes its even unplayable i am using 2.3.5 Stock rom with corn kernel. Iv tried to use clear ram before i start any application but after some time i can recongnize the lag agin.
By the way the lag is not constant it just appears from time to time but it suck for gaming -.- Anyone have any idea ?
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I have used a ton of different ROMS. So far RemICS with IcyGlitch V14 b6 is the smoothest and Razor Sharp. These Guys did a very nice job.

Droid 3 game lag/stuttering

So whenever i play any game like minion rush or subway surfers gameplay is very laggy and choppy i tried deleting dalvik cache and cache but nothing seems to work i tried also flashing another roms i have the stock rom, avatar and maverick with safestrap but nothing seems to fix the game lag/choppiness any help will be greatly appreciated

Eh, try installing Minimoto, or MavRom, and overclock it at 1.1/1.2 GHz and see if it works. Try also installing ram booster,set it to aggressive and click "boost". Oh, and look if you've got enough space in your phone memory/SD card...
I saw my girlfriend playing minion rush pretty smooth, if i'm not wrong, and she's on eclipse overclocked at 1.1GHz

FrankieDedo said:
Eh, try installing Minimoto, or MavRom, and overclock it at 1.1/1.2 GHz and see if it works. Try also installing ram booster,set it to aggressive and click "boost". Oh, and look if you've got enough space in your phone memory/SD card...
I saw my girlfriend playing minion rush pretty smooth, if i'm not wrong, and she's on eclipse overclocked at 1.1GHz
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I have enough free space and it lags on mavrom too, eclipse what is that?

Josih said:
I have enough free space and it lags on mavrom too, eclipse what is that?
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There you go: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/teamhaters/210971-eclipse-v3-0-droid-3-port.html
Beware, if your phone reboots often with 1.2 overclock, flash the 1.1 version! i hope it works for you... otherwise i'll search something