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Anyone else interested in this browser? It looks like it will kick ass and who knows they might make a mobile app for it...outside of Android.
Reading your post using it now.
I will give it a go, but I do like Firefox.
opera been ok for me 7 years now on pc
and a few on pda
I've been using it for about 30mins now, it has some quirks but overall speed is the fastest I have seen in a long time.
Check out the cartoon about it:
http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/
Just installed it on my HTC Shift, and it seems pretty good so far.
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Dave
Yea it is really fast. I like it.
Maybe in the future could be a good option, but now in Beta... I´ll stick to Opera.
There is no options to personalize, change color, etc, speed is good but not as good as they anounce
Don´t let go with Ads mates! Google want´s all the "Internet World", at least they have to pay us for that!!
Cheers,
it is fast though..but cant replace my Opera..no support for Emails so useless..but it has some fetures which makes it a lil nices
I've tried on my Acer One, and it works very fast, both to launch, and to open web pages. It is very low memory consuming, so i think it will be my preferred browser.
My problem with Opera is it's unstable nature with certain sites, especially older forums. Sometimes it can be a major PITA.
I downloaded it last night, it seems much faster than Firefox. I didn't know there were so many ads on some of the forums I visit I'll stick with Firefox so I don't see the ads.
** This morning I noticed that GoogleUpdate tried to access the internet about 12 times last night. This was with Chrome closed!! I don't give any programs access to the internet for updates.
I have found a problem with Chrome and vBulletin boards like XDA.
It is incorrectly turning DST ON in Eastern Australia making all times out by an hour.
In
User Control Panel
Setting DST Correction option to [Always Off] works around the problem for now. Something amiss in the Chrome javascript engine perhaps?
Without making this change whenever I switch between IE or Chrome with a vBulletin board I get an auto DST update message. IE time is correct. Chrome is wrong.
Anyone else wee this?
You might want to check the EULA a little closer there. It is definitely a boilerplate with some wide ranging implications of they enforced it. It also has a number of bugs, such as a carpet bombing vulnerability right off the get go. Nice idea and if they were to put a decent EULA on it, I might use it.... In the mean time, I'll stick with SeaMonkey or Opera.
-Will
IM USING IT RIGHT NOW!!!
It PWNS!!!
The EULA agreement has already been debunked just check section 9.4....here is how another user explained it:
Actually this is pretty flawed. I know this was posted in MANY other places as well, and I can't write to the authors of ALL those posts, but here's where copypasta news and blog entries have their flaws.
If you read section 9.4 closely, you'll see what I mean:
9.4 Other than the limited license set forth in Section 11, Google acknowledges and agrees that it obtains no right, title or interest from you (or your licensors) under these Terms in or to any Content that you submit, post, transmit or display on, or through, the Services, including any intellectual property rights which subsist in that Content
That "limited license" it refers to is what has exploded onto the internet as a violation of rights, privacy, etc. Again, if you actually read section 11, you'll see that the limited license is only for the promotion of Chrome, and this only holds to things that aren't already covered under other rights, such as copyright or intellectual property. Basically, this boils down to: Google can use anything that is online to promote itself, if one of it's users accesses that site. Which, in all honesty, it could do anyway.
This doesn't violate anything. And if you're still scared of it, use Chromium, the active open source project without the EULA that Chrome is based on.
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As for bugs. I have noticed the DST bug, also it seems spell correction doesn't work on some boards I post on. Other then that it's the best browser I prefer.
Sledutah said:
I downloaded it last night, it seems much faster than Firefox. I didn't know there were so many ads on some of the forums I visit I'll stick with Firefox so I don't see the ads.
** This morning I noticed that GoogleUpdate tried to access the internet about 12 times last night. This was with Chrome closed!! I don't give any programs access to the internet for updates.
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I uninstalled it yesterday. After installation it was still trying to access the internet via GoogleUpdate. I went through the registry and there were tons of references to googleupdates and chrome. I deleted all of them and haven't had any more requests. Wow, don't think I'll even reinstall it in the future just for that.
Theres some kind of memory leak
Whenever i run it
My CPU usage shoots WAY UP
Its fast but dam should it be taxing my processor like that
Cool browser
I love it, been using it for about a week now LOL. But there is still a lot of work needs to be done!
Google Chrome is so much faster on many websites, especially on XDA-developers.com, where it is seconds faster when switching between pages in the forum.
And by using privoxy on newspapers, etc., you can get rid of those annoying ads with ease.
Well been doing alot of study lately and it seems ALOT of apps on the market that are full versions and are "free" seem to have ad sponsored elements in them. Sending your GPS data to whoever or other various things. Now while if the dev mentions on the description that their "Paid" version is ad free. Least its up front and honest about it. However alot of Apps I found out hide this info it seems. Is this going to be the new "Kazaa" on the G1? Back when Kazaa came out, is when the influx of "Spyware" was increasing. Im worried is this happening to the G1 now? While I can understand devs choosing this to make their app free and gain from it a lil. Whats to say other devs wont use this for other intentions that may have some negative impact?
Just wondering tho.. for modded G1s. Is there some sorta firewall app or so yet that might be useful? Anyways just thought I would post for discussion case I am worried over nothing.
Install AdFree from the Market.
Cool ill try that. Still tho some discussion would be good. Cause I don't know if this should be something to start getting concerned on. Apps running in background draining battery, and reporting info possibly and so. Or am I getting concerned over nothing?
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Cool ill try that. Still tho some discussion would be good. Cause I don't know if this should be something to start getting concerned on. Apps running in background draining battery, and reporting info possibly and so. Or am I getting concerned over nothing?
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A little paranoia is a healthy thing, too much is bad, but these ads collect all sorts of location information to profile you and provide relevent advertising, but who knows what else happens with the data etc etc etc
PS you need root access on your phone to use AdFree
Yea Im fully rooted, No worries there. =) Thanks for this heads up. I use host files as well on my PC.. since then never had a issue with spyware again. Any news on if he would let us update the host file ourselves? Id love to use the file I have on my PC. Heh.
Anyways as for discussion goes. Can these ads know your G1 email, or linked email account? Next off, is there a ability that these ads could read your personal data as text msgs, contacts (to spam phone calls) or anything like that? Android being a new OS.. not sure what devs and ads can do with access to a phone. Its like a new gateway has been opened.
Kinda wish a dev could comment if the G1 would even have this ability and if it could be a bad thing.
Edit: Good question, this Ad Free, is it like if you add a hosts file in a router? Like if I use the G1 to tether, is it blocking the ad banners even on tethered connections? Would be interesting to know for sure since imagine a built in firewall that protects tethered PCs too.
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Yea Im fully rooted, No worries there. =) Thanks for this heads up. I use host files as well on my PC.. since then never had a issue with spyware again. Any news on if he would let us update the host file ourselves? Id love to use the file I have on my PC. Heh.
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You can use your own hosts file on your own phone, AdFree just automates the process, if you look at this thread it started off describing how to do things manually.
Anyways as for discussion goes. Can these ads know your G1 email, or linked email account?
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Possibly, I haven't looked into accessing the google credentials from the android APIs so I don't know for certain, might be a private API google only shares with it's own apps, that doesn't mean someone won't figure out how to access them however.
Next off, is there a ability that these ads could read your personal data as text msgs, contacts (to spam phone calls) or anything like that? Android being a new OS..
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When you install an app there is a screen displayed of the permissions the apps ask for, read/write contacts, calendars etc will all be displayed, you should be able to see the permissions an app will have access to after it's installed as well from memory.
not sure what devs and ads can do with access to a phone. Its like a new gateway has been opened.
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You should be more worried what google will do with all the info it collects to be honest, but that's another issue altogether.
Kinda wish a dev could comment if the G1 would even have this ability and if it could be a bad thing.
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You are prompted during install as to what the app will be able to access, google leaves it up to you to accept it or not.
Edit: Good question, this Ad Free, is it like if you add a hosts file in a router? Like if I use the G1 to tether, is it blocking the ad banners even on tethered connections? Would be interesting to know for sure since imagine a built in firewall that protects tethered PCs too.
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Depends how the tethered setup gets DNS info, if it uses the information from the hosts file then yes, but this is dependent on what the tether setup does.
Mysticales said:
Its like a new gateway has been opened.
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Only if you never bothered reading the permissions requests when installing an app. They clearly describe what permissions an app wants to use and you can cancel the installation if you feel you don't want to give an app the right to access your personal info. So if you install a game that says it wants access to your Google Account info (which would include your email and thus all your associated google services) then you have only yourself to blame if the dev sends you a ton of spam or sells your email address.
Bottom line is read the permissions requested carefully and decide whether you trust the company/entity that created the app before installing it. Also, i'd be very wary installing any root apps, since root apps by their very nature can operate outside of dalvik sandbox and do practically anything they want to your system. I'm only running two root apps right now: Market Enabler and Wifi Tether. They are both open source.
Well of course I read the permissions thing. However still I would still wonder about things.
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Well of course I read the permissions thing. However still I would still wonder about things.
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Google actually closed up some of the loop holes that apps were using on Android 1.0/1.1 to enable wifi etc.
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They are both open source.
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Unless you audit the code and compile it yourself, you have no idea what the binary is actually doing.
Location data is only used for serving the right banners and calculate the profits the banner view/click has depending on the location (country) of the viewer.
Its not anything malicious and you can easily see the permissions when installing.
People all like free apps instead of paying a few dollars, but when an ad is added people try to get rid of it... Havent you all ever wondered why the ads are there? Just like on a forum as the one you are on right now? Right they generate at least a little bit of money for a dev that doesnt want to charge the users directly by letting them pay, but spends almost all his free time to keep apps updated, write new once and answering questions.
As soon as there is virtually no way too make money on a market, the market will die as developers/companies will move over to an other platform of development.
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Unless you audit the code and compile it yourself, you have no idea what the binary is actually doing.
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It's not difficult to get the code from svn and compile it. Pretty effortless.
rogro82 said:
As soon as there is virtually no way too make money on a market, the market will die as developers/companies will move over to an other platform of development.
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Many people don't like to view ads on their computers, let alone their mobile phone. Thus if people can block the ads easily, they will. Content producers and software developers will simply have to find a new business model to pursue. Maybe that's a free/premium differentiation model or maybe its microtransactions. That or they will have to deal with a percentage of their userbase blocking ads.
Well I am sure most devs Block ads too, either on their mobile or pc.. no one wants any type of issue.
Now again, I said I understand why they are there for free apps. Its just that as a user myself.. I like to know Im protected from potential hazards. Also alot of devs like to make something hot to use on later resumes and projects. Ive worked with alot of devs in my time start with nothing and grow to get bigger jobs in RL cause of the project. =)
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It's not difficult to get the code from svn and compile it. Pretty effortless.
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I didn't say it was hard to get or compile it, but auditing the code to make sure nothing malicious is going on can be very difficult at times. There is a code obfustication competition each year and it's extrodinary what some can do and you'd never know unless it was pointed out to you.
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Well I am sure most devs Block ads too, either on their mobile or pc.. no one wants any type of issue.
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It's not just "issues" too many ads tick a certain segment of the population off to the point that they go to these lengths to get rid of them.
This is of course before you factor in this segment of the population are usually the least to click on ads, usually for ethical/moral reasons, so them getting rid of ads is usually no big loss.
Last time I checked AdFree was downloaded less than 5,000 times, now compare this to a speedometer app I made which anyone can run and it's been downloaded over 10,000 times I highly doubt any dev relying on ads will actually loose out by the people that can and are blocking them.
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Location data is only used for serving the right banners and calculate the profits the banner view/click has depending on the location (country) of the viewer.
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The meta data that can be gleened from this sort of advertising can have all sorts of flow on effects and unintended consequences.
I see the world and potential pitfalls in things differently than others, I don't know why, but the more data collected the worst things can be.
If you are interested in what country they are from/in just pull the country code from the SIM card, why narrow it down to within a few metres?
Well since I have been using Adfree. Let me say this. My G1 seems to be running faster! I dont get as many force close/wait errors. Certain apps like atrackdog for one RUN faster. I mean without the ads running, it seems my apps speed through their task and do what they are supposed to. Kinda interesting note oddly.
Also lets say a app you know would be using GPS to locate you on a map. Thus triggering "Give app permission to use your GPS" which you know why it needs it. But does the app also tell you that it uses the GPS for Ads? So I dont always trust what it says when it comes to permissions as it doesnt mean in the underline that its not using the same permission to do other things. Would be nice if the G1 had a notice that the app uses Ad support.
Linux is a wonderful and powerful operating system that can do just about anything you can possibly dream of.
First, the hosts file hack is a piece of crap since all it does is it points potentially malicious domain names back to self. It doesn't take into account connections that are ip address based... those will still go through and there is nothing that can be put in the hosts file to stop that.
iptables on the other hand.... included in 1.0 and 1.1, and several custom 1.5's, can do many strong things; block by ip address (including if it tries to lookup by dns), block by port, *BLOCK BY USER ID*.
The latter is particularly interesting since each program installed on android is assigned its own userid. That means that with the correct iptables rule, you can block all network traffic for THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM. Or you can blacklist/whitelist servers for that program, etc.
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/block...ingle-user-from-my-server-using-iptables.html
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux...ng-access-to-selectedspecific-ip-address.html
For example, when I issue this command:
iptables -A OUTPUT -o tiwlan0 -m owner --uid-owner 10017 -j DROP
My browser is no longer able to connect (since it is uid=10017) using wifi (tiwlan0 is wifi). Note: leave out the entire "-o tiwlan0" argument and it should block all outgoing on all devices for that userid.
To find the userid for a particular program, do "ls -l /data/data/program'sdatadirectory"
So on JF 1.51 is this ability already there? Yea I know Linux is great for iptables. Always is, even in routers hehe.
If its not in there already, Debian, how well does that work on the G1?
I used a different way to block ads on my laptop using Google Chrome. This works differently from AdBlock. This is a manual way. A bit difficult to grasp hold off though.
So basically using Google Chrome's JavaScript console you take off the bits of code that represent the ads and the ads vanish.
I was wondering whether this could be implemented somehow in an application. This app would run the website. Then you would get a similar version of the Javascript console, you would take off the ads and then the app would let you access the rest of the website.
This could be an amazing add-on for a web browser.
Here's link to a How-to I made
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K59MI4e7J3w&context=C364178cADOEgsToPDskKvHDuKcmE4emuZg8UD6I7g
[PLEASE A MOD MOVE THIS TO A DEVELOPMENT FORUM] Sorry, did not realise while posting.
You should do some reading and learn (if you need to) Javascript (and jQuery) and look into writing a Chrome extension that would remove elements from a page with a right-click -> delete type action. Also, with Chrome you can get to the element much quicker. Right-click and do "Inspect element". It opens the dom explorer with the selected element highlighted so you can just right-click it and "delete node". Much quicker than manually scrolling through the dom.
Incidentally, the only problem with doing it manually is that the hidden elements are there next time you visit the site, or if you refresh the page.
Thanks. Im just a 17 year old kid with big dreams
Just working on getting my way around VB and Java. Will try to learn something about jQuery after my prelims end.
hateem said:
Thanks. Im just a 17 year old kid with big dreams
Just working on getting my way around VB and Java. Will try to learn something about jQuery after my prelims end.
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If you're going to be doing some Java then that would be a good intro for JavaScript, which is a web based scripting language, but it has its origins in the same roots as Java so there are similarities in syntax.
I was an 8 year old kid with big dreams I stuck with them and I've now been working as a professional developer, writing windows software, mobile software and web applications for about 16 years. If it's what you want then stick at it. You're post proves you have the right mix of creativity and curiosity needed to persist with development. I just hope you're good at maths too
thanks it was helpfull
Blocking just the visible page content will never be a 100% proof. There are plenty of javascript ads that generate the content on the fly.
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Blocking just the visible page content will never be a 100% proof. There are plenty of javascript ads that generate the content on the fly.
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So you just hide it once it's generated. There's always ways round it. Just nothing generic.
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I used a different way to block ads on my laptop using Google Chrome. This works differently from AdBlock. This is a manual way. A bit difficult to grasp hold off though.
So basically using Google Chrome's JavaScript console you take off the bits of code that represent the ads and the ads vanish.
I was wondering whether this could be implemented somehow in an application. This app would run the website. Then you would get a similar version of the Javascript console, you would take off the ads and then the app would let you access the rest of the website.
This could be an amazing add-on for a web browser.
Here's link to a How-to I made
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K59MI4e7J3w&context=C364178cADOEgsToPDskKvHDuKcmE4emuZg8UD6I7g
[PLEASE A MOD MOVE THIS TO A DEVELOPMENT FORUM] Sorry, did not realise while posting.
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thanks for sharing this with us, this will come in handy
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So you just hide it once it's generated. There's always ways round it. Just nothing generic.
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If you don't mind do it on each page refresh, go for it...dealing with the source is the way to go, not like this.
I personally don't use Chrome, I prefer Firefox and AdBlock there works magic, it works at the root of the ads and also allows block visible parts on the page as well.
Revenue generation
You know you shouldn't really be blocking those ads as it helps pay for these sites, including xdadevelopers. Those ads are the key to keeping these very informative sites free to everyone. If there are certain advertisements that bother you, then I suggest finding something that blocks only certain ads, say just block popups but not the banner types.
I don't mind ads at all on websites like XDA and most others. I was referring to websites that ask you to complete surveys and select ads in order to reveal their content. I was frustrated with the general concept and the limitations that Ad blockers had.
The regular ad is ok, but ad infested websites is what I dislike.
They wish to monetise from the content they have, that is ok. But when people start getting greedy, that becomes a problem.
So, as there are countless members of this community, i thought it would be best to ask here.
Im getting tired of firefox so i switched to IE9. I use the tracking protection feature which is basically a built in adblocker etc. Unfortunately, all the list's that exist for the filter, sadly sucks. One claims to have all the same things imported from Adblock Plus which is a firefox addon and its the best adblocker ive used. Never 1 add or pop up. But anyways, all the lists suck. Is there any programs or secret lists i could use that dont show up on the website? I love IE9 its just annoying that its adblock ability's suck.. It blocks some adds but not pops up and it makes a lot of websites have issues working..
Ive looked through cnet but most have to be paid for.. does adblock plus have a version for windows and not just firefox and chrome?
ReapersDeath said:
So, as there are countless members of this community, i thought it would be best to ask here.
Im getting tired of firefox so i switched to IE9. I use the tracking protection feature which is basically a built in adblocker etc. Unfortunately, all the list's that exist for the filter, sadly sucks. One claims to have all the same things imported from Adblock Plus which is a firefox addon and its the best adblocker ive used. Never 1 add or pop up. But anyways, all the lists suck. Is there any programs or secret lists i could use that dont show up on the website? I love IE9 its just annoying that its adblock ability's suck.. It blocks some adds but not pops up and it makes a lot of websites have issues working..
Ive looked through cnet but most have to be paid for.. does adblock plus have a version for windows and not just firefox and chrome?
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For IE9 you'll want to visit this link:
http://wiredhut.blogspot.com/2011/08/all-in-one-adblock-resource-fanboys.html
Basically all you're doing is adding fanboys adblock list to IE9 by clicking the "Add TPL" link here:
http://www.fanboy.co.nz/ie.html
Hello, long time reader - finally decided to post.
I bought the Note 5 on launch day, and have overall been very happy with it, especially after debloating. I had been noticing over the last couple weeks that a lot of websites would have ad choice ads on the bottom of the pages, through Chrome or through apps that use WebView. It was only on certain sites. When I went to my own personal sites, I would never see the ad so I was sort of thinking it was the site. But the more and more I saw them, they really seemed out of place. I dont use many apps on my device, and am very careful what I install so I was not worried about malware.
I finally decided to start disabling things to see if I could get these ads to stop, and sure enough, when I disabled Chrome Device Support Library (assuming it came installed as I did not install it), the ads went away.
Does anyone have any similar experience? I am missing anything by disabling this? I just want to make sure I don't have anything additional that would have caused these ads.
Thanks in advance for any info.
I personally use NoHomo...
*NoChromo.
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-to/block-ads-android-web-browsers-no-root-needed-0162075/
(Sent from another Galaxy)
I'll try it out to see. I would imagine if it did affect anything else, it would be device syncing possibly?
This would solve my problems if it doesnt affect anything else. Hate sites where they pop up an ad that closes out of video and I lose my spot.