Does anyone else think that Microsoft will kill Skype on Android? Or possibly pull away most of the resources allocated to it? Have not seen any progress on the app from Skype in a long time. The leaked one works, but a bit buggy for my tastes.
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This really isn't a theme thread, and to answer your question, I doubt microsoft is going to take it away. Instead they are probably going to make it a paid service
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This really isn't a theme thread, and to answer your question, I doubt microsoft is going to take it away. Instead they are probably going to make it a paid service
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The title of this forum is themes and apps.
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They load android phones with Bing so why not skype
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Skype is already a paid service. You dont think they just offer it out of the goodness of their hearts, do you? lol
You're just not using it as a paid service (making phone calls to land lines or receiving). Mostly it appeals to small businesses or international callers.
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Skype is already a paid service. You dont think they just offer it out of the goodness of their hearts, do you? lol
You're just not using it as a paid service (making phone calls to land lines or receiving). Mostly it appeals to small businesses or international callers.
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To be honest, at this point I would pay a one-time app purchase fee for a functioning, well-supported version of Skype that can use both front and rear cameras for video calls. Maybe even multi-party conference calls.
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To be honest, at this point I would pay a one-time app purchase fee for a functioning, well-supported version of Skype that can use both front and rear cameras for video calls. Maybe even multi-party conference calls.
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A lot of people probably would. I dont think Microsoft buying Skype can hurt. I mean Skype is like the "idiot savant of the software world." They only do one thing right, their voice algorithms (in terms of quality). Their front end software and what keeps calls connected all sucks (don't forget about them sticking crappy addons in skype that force install on firefox against your will that crashed the browser).
Microsoft might be Microsoft, but at least they can develop better than most other proprietary software corporations. They also won't ignore a potential market for cash (Android, iphone). Look at how much they paid verizon just to get bing stuck on phones in place of google search. They would never abandon android when there's a chance to try to take away some market share from google voice.
No. They won't be killing Skype on Android,nor will they be raising prices
Their acquisition of Skype has a lot to do with their relationship in Facebook. People forget MS owns roughly 2% of Facebook and is looking to get more. In the not too distant future you'll see their joint announcement of Skype replacing Facebook chat
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haha.. spoken like a true expert. I may tend to agree with you @qumahlin but you are talking like it is good as gold.
Can you say anti-trust if they did that
They will not kill of skype on Android. Remember what happened when they tried to say other OS's (apple) couldn't use internet explorer? I think they'd have a lawsuit on their hands.
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I am a wedding and portrait photographer and am trying to integrate my Xoom into my business. What I would love to see is an app that allows me to import my contracts in pages or ms word format, edit them on the tablet, have my customers review the contract and sign it on the tablet, then export the file as a pdf and email a copy to the client. Anyone got any ideas, or is this just wishful thinking. I have not seen an app for android or iOS that can handle this. Im obviously not a developer, but it seems like there would be a huge market for this, and as a laymen it seems like it should be fairly easy to accomplish.
Agreed,
I really need a app that I can put documents on for my business and my clients can sign on the xoom then I don't have to print all this paper and everything would be electronic.
Check out EasySignMobile. It is an iOS app, but if it is what you are looking for it might be worth contacting the developer to see if they are working on an Android port.
We need to get some traction on this. I'd be willing to pay for an app like that and even donate to a dev willing to do it.
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Check out EasySignMobile. It is an iOS app, but if it is what you are looking for it might be worth contacting the developer to see if they are working on an Android port.
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I have found most of the iOS apps to the sub par, and many of them are subscription based and are handled through a website service, or do not allow for editing docs on my device. What I need is an app that will handle everything locally, on my device, and I can backup to my computer at home. I will take a look at EasySignMobile though.
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I have found most of the iOS apps to the sub par, and many of them are subscription based and are handled through a website service, or do not allow for editing docs on my device. What I need is an app that will handle everything locally, on my device, and I can backup to my computer at home. I will take a look at EasySignMobile though.
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After further reading it does sound like that app has the limitations you're talking about
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After further reading it does sound like that app has the limitations you're talking about
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Thanks for the suggestion though!
FYI I just emailed the developer of easysign just to see. I'll let you guys know if anything turns out.
Thanks for the suggestion
Ye I contacted most of the developers for these apps like pdf expert, what I use on the I pad for signing PDF and filling out forms, but they and most developers said that they do not have any plans for developing for android. Their excuse is that they believe in quality and not quantity, but I respond by saying that you can still make a quality app for android, but still no use. Some did say though that if they do expand then the android market will be next.
Android does lack in business apps and I will gladly pay money for those apps. That is why I am returning my xoom (what a shame) because I need one for business, the same reason why you need one for yours, and going back to my ipad where I use quicksale for invoices and pdf expert for filling out forms and signing business contracts.
If any developer reads this thread just know that I will gladly pay $20 for an app that can satisfy this need as well as a seperate twenty for invoices. The ipad apps that I use are very nice, easy to use, and well developed. So for business I would get the ipad than the xoom. And for those who say there is an invoice app for the xoom, I have tried them all, and paid, and they SUCK.
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Although you can't edit repligo reader does let you annotate and even add handwriting onto a pdf. Documents to go is okay for editing word docs but yet to find anything that lets you save as pdf. So no perfect solution but a few apps as mentioned are close. Its odd there are so many apps that let you take a photo and convert to pdf but nothing for documents, wonder if its an adobe licensing issue? I know acrobat pro for windows is pricey but I use it all the time at work particularly to distribute visio and ms project docs.
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I am a wedding and portrait photographer and am trying to integrate my Xoom into my business. What I would love to see is an app that allows me to import my contracts in pages or ms word format, edit them on the tablet, have my customers review the contract and sign it on the tablet, then export the file as a pdf and email a copy to the client. Anyone got any ideas, or is this just wishful thinking. I have not seen an app for android or iOS that can handle this. Im obviously not a developer, but it seems like there would be a huge market for this, and as a laymen it seems like it should be fairly easy to accomplish.
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Is there a reason? I've used several nice apps from here, but just curious why you dont give them more exposure.
A lot of them are on the market, they are just posted here too.
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I think I remember reading in another thread that there was a fee you have to pay before putting apps on the market. I assume it doesn't matter if the app is free or not.
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It costs money to get on the market. Xda is free.
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Thats true.
Its like 20$+ to be a developer for Android.
The devs may not be sure if they'll get that 20$+ back after putting it on the market and it doesn't sell as much... so they post it here
As a Dev $25 doesnt really matter to potentially get more exposure so I don't understand why other devs don't put their good apps on the market many of them are useful even for people other than power users
is $99 not $25 and not all devs are from market enabled countries
I'm pretty sure it's $25. The app store on iOS is 100.
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The only reason I can see besides the $25 or $99 fee is the ratings.
Once an app is posted to the market you have somewhere around 9.2 million Americans with access to your app. If your app has bugs or is not perfect from the start you start getting 1 star ratings. These ratings will slowly knock your app away from any sort of recognition.
Developers on XDA post there app here in order to receive constructive criticism, instead of a market comment like "App has Force Close Errors 1 star." Instead on XDA the developers can get and give ideas to other. Then when they seem like the app is fully tested they can choose to post it to the market.
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I'm pretty sure it's $25. The app store on iOS is 100.
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The Android Market fee is a ONE-TIME $25. iOS is yearly.
Xda is a test bed for good ideas. Said good ideas get made into an app that gets throughly tested ppl with different phone models then the dev. Then the app can go to market.
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My apps are in the Android Market.
Mine is on the Market and has a thread on here, although I haven't attached the free APK to the thread.
And yeah, although the UI isn't great (I have plans for it) and I don't advertise a lot, I still managed to earn a little over $200 so far, making back well over the $25 I spent to be able to sell my app. It's worth it.
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Developers on XDA post there app here in order to receive constructive criticism, instead of a market comment like "App has Force Close Errors 1 star." Instead on XDA the developers can get and give ideas to other. Then when they seem like the app is fully tested they can choose to post it to the market.
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The above is a very good reason for posting your app elsewhere before publishing on the market. Most of the market reviews I've had regarding a problem didn't include any useful information on how to replicate the issue. For example, you'll typically get comments like "Freezes!" or "Force closes!" with no indication where in the app these problems occur. Likewise, identifying and fixing device specific issues is particularly difficult if you only rely on market reviews.
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Thats true.
Its like 20$+ to be a developer for Android.
The devs may not be sure if they'll get that 20$+ back after putting it on the market and it doesn't sell as much... so they post it here
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I'm not sure this is a big deterrent. It's a $25 one-time fee to publish as many apps as you want and you wouldn't need many sales or ad clicks to cover this cost.
agree....you will get more useful info alot faster on XDA regarding fuctionality and bug reports.
Alot of people just develop apps as a hobby with no intention of selling them. So why pay the $25?
and sometines you get banned without explanation so its a good place to upload you apk's google ban without send a warning maybe an icon, maybe something you did wrong and you couldnt fix they just ban and close you play store forever (and the next account you can made)
I put my Apps both on here and on the App Store.
I don't make any money from my apps, but I love Android because it's only a one time fee of $25 to publish apps to Android.
I was going to start with iOS but that's $100 yearly. Kind of ridiculous in my opinion.
Yup, Google Play is only a 1 time fee of $25. I dont think devs should be afraid of low ratings. You can't satisfy everyone. I get requests daily about what I should include in the app. There a lot of ideas and for a 99 cent app, I'm just not sure its worth it to build all these ideas into the app. The ones I do pay attention to are the ones where they say something doesn't work or it crashes when this or that happens.
Hey everyone, I didn't know where to post this. Theres a no-iphone rule in the General section, so I thought this would be safe. I would normally ask iOS questions on an iOS Forum, but this is something that I'm only going to get dumb answers on an iOS forum.
We're wanting to buy my 10 year old daughter an iPod Touch for Christmas. She actually wants an HD video camera, but the iPod Touch serves that purpose, plus it would be cool to let her iMessage chat, and Face Time with all her cousins, grandparents, ect. Everyone in our family uses iOS devices, except me.
I detest iOS with a passion, but I'm not going to be as bull-headed as to buy her a Galaxy Player, and force all our relatives to sign up for Google Talk accounts just to chat with her. iOS just makes more sense.
Heres my question: I want to be able to chat with her from my Android devices. It would be a frosty day in hell I would let her get a Facebook account, so Google Talk is the obvious choice. Except that apparently there isn't a Google Talk app for iOS. It looks like Google merged it into their Google+ app. But I'm certainly not setting her up with a Google+ account.
I want to do both Video Chat, and IM. I'm considering maybe just setting her up with a Skype account, and relying on that for both IM and Video. Anyone have any other good solutions?
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Skype, or the trusty old AIM which looks a lot different now. lol
Skype. Most other cross platform apps have limitations or make you pay.
But if you set up her G+ account then set it up completely private.
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For video chatting I recommend Tango.
Works with iOS, Android, PC, Mac, and Windows Phone. I personally like it better than Skype.
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But if you set up her G+ account then set it up completely private.
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That was one of my thoughts. My biggest concern is that she could change her settings (unwittingly). But I suppose the App probably wouldn't let her do that.
Maybe if I set up the account, and didn't tell her the password?
veeman said:
For video chatting I recommend Tango.
Works with iOS, Android, PC, Mac, and Windows Phone. I personally like it better than Skype.
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Do they allow users to search for eachother? Or do you need to know somebody's details to add them? I'm mostly worried strangers adding her, and trying to video chat with her.
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That was one of my thoughts. My biggest concern is that she could change her settings (unwittingly). But I suppose the App probably wouldn't let her do that.
Maybe if I set up the account, and didn't tell her the password?
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Skype servers are iffy when sending messages while the person is offline. They might they might not get them. G+ always sends them.
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Do they allow users to search for eachother? Or do you need to know somebody's details to add them? I'm mostly worried strangers adding her, and trying to video chat with her.
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I'm not sure. But I haven't had any random strangers add me so it should be ok. Just monitor what she does frequently.
Gtalk seems to be best imo
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This post is from 6 months ago and so is the 100$ offer
If there is no response (a zip file ready to test) i'll have to remove myself from the list
don't get me wrong i still think this is a must feature, but it won't be relevant for me soon as i intend to replace my device,
and don't want to put 100$ for something i won't be able to use.
6 months is enough time and i believe that if there was a developer that is close to make a patch he would push himself for the extra $ people added here...
good luck to you all and thank you for voting and offering rewards
Hello, will donate 100$ to the developer who will enable Voice-Call recording (high quality) for the Google Nexus 4
Since the device has 2 mics i guess a 2-Way recording Kernel patch is possible to make.
Nexus 4 Users please vote for Voice-Call recording if you are interested in it.
Thank you
+ 1: I'll add 20 bucks to the kitty.
Go ahead and send me payment...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.record.my.call&hl=en
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Go ahead and send me payment...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.record.my.call&hl=en
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App does not make the cut and you are not the Dev :thumbdown:
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Go ahead and send me payment...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.record.my.call&hl=en
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Lol
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This is one of the main things I miss since switching from the G2.
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Go ahead and send me payment...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.record.my.call&hl=en
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This is one of the main things I miss since switching from the G2.
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Bumping this to add another $20 to the pot.
Soon as I get my hands on one I'll give it a go, if no one else does first.. From my understanding it largely depends on the hardware as most phones hardware don't support intercepting the incoming call data which is why most solutions record over the speakerphone which is poor quality..
It just needs a kernel patch. I would wait for a stable kernel minus data drops and then give it a whack.
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I dont mind have it ..:good:
Adding 20 bucks!
Had it on my HTC Desire HD, and to be honest, that is the feature I miss most out of the phone!
The reason people don't make these apps is because they can be held legally liable if someone misuses it.
Recording someone over the phone without their permission (even with in some instances) violates federal wiretapping laws.
Feds can wiretap us citizens willy nilly, but apparently it isn't a two way street
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The reason people don't make these apps is because they can be held legally liable if someone misuses it.
Recording someone over the phone without their permission (even with in some instances) violates federal wiretapping laws.
Feds can wiretap us citizens willy nilly, but apparently it isn't a two way street
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That's a big misconception. I don't know from where this has originated. If that were so even the audio notes recorders wouldn't be available because i could just keep another phone on speakerphone and record conversation with my phone. I think it has more to do with the lack of features in the released APIs. Anyway there are some apps but they work very selectively on some models. The only nice app I ever saw was on the old Palm Treo.
Anyway, I would like to add another $20 to this bounty. Someone please write a good 2 way call recorder.
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The reason people don't make these apps is because they can be held legally liable if someone misuses it.
Recording someone over the phone without their permission (even with in some instances) violates federal wiretapping laws.
Feds can wiretap us citizens willy nilly, but apparently it isn't a two way street
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If this were the case, then multiple phones wouldn't have this capability. Like the Desire HD and Desire Z.
That's why there's supposed to be a beep at set intervals when recording.
FWIW, if you use sip calling, a lot of clients support recording conversations. I use sipdroid
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That's why there's supposed to be a beep at set intervals when recording.
FWIW, if you use sip calling, a lot of clients support recording conversations. I use sipdroid
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There are? I've never noticed any beeps before.
On a different subject, even the Galaxy S3 has call recording.
Callrecording is a must for me with my personal situation. I hate getting drawn into this topic but every now and then I feel obligated to clear the air as I'm very knowledgeable about the law when it comes to this area.
In the United States, call recording's legality is 100% dependent on the state you live in. Example; in Texas (where I live), it's laws state that you only need the consent of one party within the conversation to make recording the call legal, regardless of who the person is as long as they are part of the conversation.
Further explained, if I were to call a client of mine, I do not need to tell them that I am recording our conversation because I am a party within that conversation that has knowledge of the recording and I've given my consent.
If you call someone in another state that has different laws, this is where things can become complicated, but I will not go in depth here.
Wikipedia lists all of the states laws regarding call recording.
I would like to apologize to the OP'er because off-topic legality issues always seem to arise in call recording threads. It's almost like clockwork. On the bright side, this thread gets another trip to the top for more interested viewers to see.
Google Voice has call recording and it's pretty good in my opinion. It also makes an announcement that Call Recording has started. But, at least that CYA in the gray legal area.
To use it, dial 4 on inbound calls.
It seems that the Android API is buggy. I tried this as outlined by Google..
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/media/MediaRecorder.html
and recorder.prepare() throws an IOException when I try to open an audio stream with
AudioSource.VOICE_CALL. Their documentation is scarce and it's hard to guess
what is going wrong because the microphone streams open and work correctly with the same code.
It's only the VOICE_CALL stream that fails.
I think it would be nice and very secret agent like if there was an app for the gear that would allow you to leave your phone on the table say at work or dinner and you could walk off and your phone would record everyone around your phone.
What would be cool is if it would allow you to playback the audio live on your gear. This way u could hear the stories that go on while you are out of the room. I could think of some situations where this could come in very handy.
Also, why is there no stock calculator? That is one of those things that are meant for this type of watch. Anyone remember the old calculator watches from the 90s? Lol
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I remember those calculators and you can install one.
But I think you should forget about the spy movies from the 80's and get a life. LOL.
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I think it would be nice and very secret agent like if there was an app for the gear that would allow you to leave your phone on the table say at work or dinner and you could walk off and your phone would record everyone around your phone.
What would be cool is if it would allow you to playback the audio live on your gear. This way u could hear the stories that go on while you are out of the room. I could think of some situations where this could come in very handy.
Also, why is there no stock calculator? That is one of those things that are meant for this type of watch. Anyone remember the old calculator watches from the 90s? Lol
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gear is really abandoned when it comes to official software support, just look at the amount of apps in samsung app store. close to zero.. and the apps that are there are really poor. keep in mind that gear is already for few months on the market.
there is a calculator app made by one of the XDA users, and it works really well.
I don't know about clandestine audio recordings lol... in most countries that follow commonwealth laws, such recordings are actually a criminal offense punishable by law! Unless you are actually taking part in the conversation, you cannot record audio. I'd be pretty upset if I found out a friend/family member/business associate had spied on me in such a manner.
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I don't know about clandestine audio recordings lol... in most countries that follow commonwealth laws, such recordings are actually a criminal offense punishable by law! Unless you are actually taking part in the conversation, you cannot record audio. I'd be pretty upset if I found out a friend/family member/business associate had spied on me in such a manner.
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What about not recording, but just relaying the audio? I know in the state of Idaho and Wyoming it is lawful as long as one party is aware of the recording. But if it isn't "recording" just replaying the sound, it might fall under different rules. It would be like using the super hearing aids/laser amplification that you can by so you can hear conversations from far away. You can buy those things from magazines here, they might not work that great, but they do help on hearing farther than normal to listen in.