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As we know, the Nook Color's SD slot will always take first boot priority. I'm in a situation where even booting via SD through known methods are not working.
The purpose of this thread is to:
1) Share with others who are in this similar situation, on methods which may result in the recovery of their own devices
2) Keep this discussion healthy so one day, I will be able to restore my own bricked device which I'm still striving hard to.
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IMPORTANT: If you have a bricked device I need to emphasize on searching and reading very carefully what others have shared here in both General and in Development. This is a fundamental requirement, as with the ability to follow instructions and not panic by creating unnecessary threads. This will only make things harder to find, so thank you in advance for not doing that.
There are many useful guides out there, some of which the most helpful are:
Nook Color Restore to stock by samuelhalff
Dummies Guide to Fixing 'My Nook Won't Boot' by RileyGrant
Stock 1.1.0 Clockwork Recovery Image by brianf21
Nook 1.01 stock dd images by shad0wf0x
[RECOVERY] Monster RootPack 0.7 / Clockwork Recovery 3.0.0.5 SD by thecubed
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Anyway, in severe bricking cases where hardware is not at fault, many of the solutions to restore the NC begins with either:
1) Booting to CWR-SD via uSD
2) Booting to a rom i.e. Nookie Froyo via uSD
3) Having ADB access, if available
Till date I am not sure why the SD-loaded programs do not work for me, and here are the symptoms:
1) Without SD inserted, the standard BN splash appears, 'Welcome to the Future of Reading', then gets stuck there till powered down. Needless to say, the 8-times reset method doesn't work.
2) With SD inserted, the 'LOADING' screen will splash, then screen blacks out with device still powered on . You will know that the device is still running as you need to hold power down for around 20 secs before you're able to power it back up again. I call this the 'Black Screen of Death'.
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To get your device up and running, try the following:
0) Do not panic. As long there's no hardware failure there will always be a solution. Look at me, thing's still a damn brick and yet here I am, still hopeful
1) Perform a search, read the useful threads created by the above members first. This thread is related only to failed SD-booting.
Once you've done that, prepare your recovery options with these in mind. The elimination process is part and parcel of problem-solving. In no particular order:
2) Sometimes, try powering on your device by connecting the USB cable from your PC or A/C source, instead of using the Power button.
3) Use only the original USB cable that came with your device.
4) Use the back USB ports of your PC, instead of the fronts as they may provide more consistent power and connection to your device. Try to avoid using USB hubs as they may not distribute the required power equally/properly.
5) Try switching to different USB ports, some may be hardware-gimped due to wear-and-tear.
6) Try to attempt the recovery on another Win, Mac or Linux computer. At least eliminate further possibilities of environmental hardware error.
7) Try charging the battery full.
8) Or, try discharging the battery completely, by leaving the device in BSOD state overnight until you get a message saying your device can't boot due to insufficient power when switched on. Once you are in this state, keep booting the device up until the screen does not appear. Then, recharge it back to full to see if the OS returns to stock (I am sceptical of this, but this was what others advised).
9) Try different SD cards. The device could be picky. Variety should be by class-type, brand, SDHC or non-SDHC. It's been discussed that faster cards perform better, as with more reknowned brands. Also, 16GB cards reportedly do not run Froyo (do read more by searching).
10) When loading anything via SD (CWR, roms), try different button combinations i.e. power + n + up, power + n, etc.
11) And/or, hold power for various timed-presses i.e. >30 / 45 / 60 seconds. Some members report CWR booting up after these periods, or even longer.
Note: funnily I tried holding power + n + up for > 60 seconds and the 'LOADING' screen just stays frozen. Still doesn't work, and I didn't get any ADB access.
12) Try formatting the card completely with native Win/Linux tools, EASEUS Partition Master or SDFormatter before each burn.
13) Try using both Win32DiskImager and WinImage, or dd-ing in Linux (search for more instructions). If you have Linux, you can check to see if the SD's /boot partition is indeed bootable or not.
14) For ADB access, try to unregister your hardware (go to Start > Run > devmgmt.msc), then unplug-replug device to have your PC detect it again. If a device with VID of 2080 shows up, that's the NC. You should know what this means, by now. If not, read more here.
15) Try different SD card readers, especially when experiencing failure on multiple computers. As opposed to multi-adapters i.e. 6-in-1s, try dedicated microSD readers like this one. Do not use those microSD-to-normalSD converters (usually packed together in the same shipping plastic as your card) just because you only have a reader that reads regular SD cards, they tend to fail a lot.
16) At your own risk, try cleaning the contact points on your SD cards (if you must, use cleaning alcohol and a cottom swap/q-tip - do not use water), to free them of dirt and invisible grime. If you have multiple SDs, try cleaning the least expensive ones first. Don't forget to leave them to dry completely before insertion into the NC. Credit to bonobomidwest, read his experience here.
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17) Use Nooter 0.2 (recommendation from thecubed):
Here's my recommendation: use the stock charger cable (the one with the light-up N in it) when you try Nooter 0.2.
If the light goes from orange to green (or something like that) that means Nooter is booted and working.
My new thought: some file in /rom is missing, which controls the backlight and lcd controller. I can't prove this, but it seems logical haha.
All you need to do is get Nooter 0.2 booted and ssh'd in and you'll be able to dd over a complete 1.0.1 backup.
rawfish: I use Ubuntu, so sorry if I'm not able to provide instructions for Windows
Type:
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sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.1
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ssh [email protected]
And you should be able to follow the directions for restoring on the wiki... either that or check around on IRC, if you tell them that you've got ssh access and you just need to restore your device, they'll help you out if I'm not around..
rawfish: I typed 'dmesg' in shell to see if the NC connected as a usb-ethernet device, and it doesn't show. If it does for you, then you should have progress and should ask around in IRC.
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All these did not work for me, but hope this is useful to some. I've read testimonies from everyone that this is an unbrickable device, and I certainly hope it's true, and for a kind soul to help suggest more solutions. As I'm overseas, do you think I should call BN up to see if I can arrange to send my device back for fixing/replacement? It's been a month since purchase, and 3 weeks of failed restore attempts.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible if any of these methods get you in deeper trouble. Attempt at your own risk. Credit goes to thecube aka IOMonster, and the #nookcolor channel on irc.freenode.net. Thank you to everyone who created the recovery guides too.
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You sure you just don't have crap or badly burned SD cards? Sounds pretty much what happens if you boot s really slow/junk SD or burn it badly.
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You sure you just don't have crap or badly burned SD cards? Sounds pretty much what happens if you boot s really slow/junk SD or burn it badly.
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I tried on 6 different SD cards:
1. Transcend 8GB Class 6
2. Transcend 4GB Class 2
3. Wintec 16GB Class 10
4. Sandisk 4GB Class 4
5. Sandisk 2GB non-SDHC
6. Sandisk 256MB
I've burned stuffs like Autonooter and Honeycomb on these before, and they worked fine.
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I tried on 6 different SD cards:
1. Transcend 8GB Class 6
2. Transcend 4GB Class 2
3. Wintec 16GB Class 10
4. Sandisk 4GB Class 4
5. Sandisk 2GB non-SDHC
6. Sandisk 256MB
I've burned stuffs like Autonooter and Honeycomb on these before, and they worked fine.
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First of all - great job in pulling all the resources into one place (it's small consolation, but i think you've just helped a whole load of people )
Second, i apologise if I'm telling you stuff that's obvious, but in helping out on these forums often it's the LOGIC of troubleshooting rather than the particulars of the problem that are important... In other words, only vary one thing at a time, and ALWAYS swap out every piece of hardware involved at each stage... if you always rely on one piece of hardware this might be the weak link... so have you tried a different SD drive or adapter? and have you tried burning from a different computer?
Now, I'm not being insulting, because I had a virtually identical problem with my first froyo - it just wouldn't boot (as you describe) despite multiple burns, different cards, all of the standard formatting tricks etc. It wouldn't work in multiple computers - the common element being the SD/microSD adapter. It never occurred to me that such an electrically simple part could be at fault, but you bet it was - in fact i would say in my experience these things consistently fail! (I spent a day kickign myself, because we know ho unreliable they are from using them in other devices). They also all look alike so it's hard to keep track of which one you are dealing with They also fail unexpectedly, so if you used an adapter before there's no guarantee it's working now...
Sooo... Have you tried a dedicated microSD reader (rather than a simple adapter)? I now carry one with me everywhere (it doubles as the world's smallest thumb drive too)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HGFKR8
Also bear in mind that froyo appears not to work on 16gb cards (i see you tried one)
Also, from my experience with other devices these cards are very sensitive to dirt and oil on the contacts. Certainly with enough frustrated handling you can get enough finger-grease on them to have them fail. Also they seem to be much less tolerant when writing than reading. I have NO idea how you would go about cleaning out the slot in the NC (and as someone who has ruined at least one DVD drive by blowing canned air where you shouldn't I'm not going to advocate for that). I have resurrected 'dead' SD cards before by cleaning the contacts with rubbing alcohol and a q-tip (on the card's contacts) - but again do so with great care (at your own risk!!!) and with your cheapest card, and make sure it si completely dry before you put it in the NC.
I have been generally a little scared that all this plugging and unplugging of the microSD might hurt the NC, so i have done everything i can to avoid that...
I am sure you can find someone local to you willing to help fix your boot issue but I assure you, its damn near impossible to brick a nook without physical damage.
@bonobomidwest:
No offence taken at all, in fact I am very appreciative of your contribution. I forgot to add the fact that I tried on 2 different card readers, plus indeed tried to clean the slot via an air duster VERY GENTLY as a last effort resort (I would not recommend this, it may cause permanent hardware damage). Once I'm free I'll go get a new SD reader (reads uSD only) and a new uSD which I haven't tried before. I'll try cleaning the contact points too.
*Thanks - I've added more checklists to the OP
@combustiblemonkey:
Thanks for the assurance.
I convinced my friend to buy a nook, rooted it for him, and was bricked within 2 days. Here is how I fixed it
EDIT: I tried to post a link, but was unable. If you go to theunlockr(dot)com and search for how to restore nook color to stock, there is a detailed article.
This took me almost 2 days of reboots, black screens, and freezing. I would get into CWR, and it would freeze. Had to reboot, got the black screen of death. Literally, a couple hundred reboots before it said that the OS has successfully installed, and of course, it froze again. Many more reboots, and it was finally at stock. I figure getting it back to stock was enough to return it.
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I convinced my friend to buy a nook, rooted it for him, and was bricked within 2 days. Here is how I fixed it
EDIT: I tried to post a link, but was unable. If you go to theunlockr(dot)com and search for how to restore nook color to stock, there is a detailed article.
This took me almost 2 days of reboots, black screens, and freezing. I would get into CWR, and it would freeze. Had to reboot, got the black screen of death. Literally, a couple hundred reboots before it said that the OS has successfully installed, and of course, it froze again. Many more reboots, and it was finally at stock. I figure getting it back to stock was enough to return it.
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Thanks, this is the direct link:
http://theunlockr.com/2011/02/14/how-to-restore-the-nook-color-to-stock
All instructions were taken from XDA, plus no guarantee it's the most updated
Moving on, great to hear you've gotten it back to stock. Man, you've got GREAT patience, a couple hundred reboots?
1) Was the SD inserted in or not? Curious about the OS successfully installed message, which is the result of 8x unsuccessful reboots without SD inserted.
2) Could you also provide a more detailed account on what you did? Looking forward to hear - thanks.
Hi rawfish
I also have this issue and have been trying many things. My nook did boot nooter 0.2 (the light went green) but I couldn't get Win 7 or Ubuntu to connect to it. My screen never changes at all, no backlight even. Seems this may be a larger issue than most believe it to be, especially for people like us who don't live in the US.
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Hi rawfish
I also have this issue and have been trying many things. My nook did boot nooter 0.2 (the light went green) but I couldn't get Win 7 or Ubuntu to connect to it. My screen never changes at all, no backlight even. Seems this may be a larger issue than most believe it to be, especially for people like us who don't live in the US.
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If you can find a friend or person in your area having the same device, you can try to see if an SD you burned work on theirs. If it works on theirs, it's possible that your SD slot is defective - but then comes the question of it being in working condition before the bricking happened, right?
I still think mine's recoverable, as with yours. Could be a bad SD or reader, or bad contacts. I'm going to try out using another reader plus purchase an el-cheapo branded SD. I'm also going to try formatting it via another PC in a linux environment and messing around with the partitions.
I understand the trouble you may have taken to get the device - and this happens. All the best mate, and do cheer up, don't give up.
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Thanks, this is the direct link:
All instructions were taken from XDA, plus no guarantee it's the most updated
Moving on, great to hear you've gotten it back to stock. Man, you've got GREAT patience, a couple hundred reboots?
1) Was the SD inserted in or not? Curious about the OS successfully installed message, which is the result of 8x unsuccessful reboots without SD inserted.
2) Could you also provide a more detailed account on what you did? Looking forward to hear - thanks.
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When I finally got it to work, the SD card was installed with the 1.0.1 stock OS on it, and CWR. The problem was that that (+) and (-) would only occasionally work. And if they did, it would usually freeze. I would be able to format system, but it would freeze if I tried to format data. Powered off, and I would get the black screen of death (BSoD). Once this happened, I would plug it into my computer so that I could hear the chime indicating a new device was plugged in. I found that ejecting the SD and then rebooting would sometimes help get rid of the BSoD. Then another power down, plug in the SD, and start again. Also, holding the N, +, and Power would sometimes help in launching CWR. I would usually have to hold for 60 seconds, but it would finally launch. It seemed like the nook was trying to run a process that slowing it down and causing it to freeze, but I couldn't figure out what it was. If I would wait an hour, it would boot CWR and allow me to format system and data, but then it would freeze when I would try to install the zip.
The successful install message was in CWR. It said Install From SD Card Complete, or something like that. After that, I still had to do the 8 reboots. It would load up the stock welcome screen and freeze. 8 reboots later, I got the video lady. Good enough to return it to the store.
It really was just persistence. It would usually take an hour of reboots before I was able to try to install the zip, and it probably failed on me 15+ times. The status bar would get half way, and freeze. Then I had to begin again. If it had been my nook instead of my friends, I probably would have given up. I wish I could be more specific, but unfortunately I am new to all of this. My nook rooted just fine, and fixing his is really my only experience with CWR. I just kept going until it worked.
Good luck! It is a pain in the ass, but it can happen.
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If you can find a friend or person in your area having the same device, you can try to see if an SD you burned work on theirs. If it works on theirs, it's possible that your SD slot is defective - but then comes the question of it being in working condition before the bricking happened, right?
I still think mine's recoverable, as with yours. Could be a bad SD or reader, or bad contacts. I'm going to try out using another reader plus purchase an el-cheapo branded SD. I'm also going to try formatting it via another PC in a linux environment and messing around with the partitions.
I understand the trouble you may have taken to get the device - and this happens. All the best mate, and do cheer up, don't give up.
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My wife has one as well so am able to test using that and the SD works fine in hers. The whole screen not turning on thing is weird though, does your screen turn on?
We bought them when on honeymoon in America so didn't have to pay a shipper or anything
Deleting the partitions manually with Gparted and using dd to burn the SDs and making sure the correct partitions are bootable doesn't seem to work. Last night I retried a lot of the previously attempted options, with no results.
It's weird to think that a working SD slot and a slew of cards will suddenly malfunction, but for now that seems like the most plausible reason why my NC can't boot anything off SD.
To think back how it all started, the device suddenly rebooted from HC preview v0.4 to stock BN 1.01 (rooted + installed CWR on eMMC) while the SD is inserted, then upon another reboot it simply stays dead, this gives me reason to believe that the internal boot partition is corrupted, and SD slot nuked hardware-wise.
Hmmm, really hoping to find someone else who has the same device, in my area.
Right now I am at the Black Screen of Death as well...
I think Barnes should refund me, but I am willing to do some tests for the good of society.
Steelfan555 said:
Right now I am at the Black Screen of Death as well...
I think Barnes should refund me, but I am willing to do some tests for the good of society.
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Sorry to hear that, and don't give up! Hope you took a look at the other threads, and this little pseudo checklist I made in the OP. Do share the outcome
Thank you Rawfish. The first option, the Dummies Guide to Fixing 'My Nook won't boot'
was what I needed to get started on the right track again. Though I'm not sure anyone wants to know how I ended up here, I'm grateful to those that put in the time and effort to find any of these solutions.
Thank you!
FroztIkon said:
Thank you Rawfish. The first option, the Dummies Guide to Fixing 'My Nook won't boot'
was what I needed to get started on the right track again. Though I'm not sure anyone wants to know how I ended up here, I'm grateful to those that put in the time and effort to find any of these solutions.
Thank you!
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Update:
Ok, so after running through it, I ended up getting stuck on the boot screen that shows N. If I powered off, it would restart and get stuck at that screen. I tried the 8 shutdowns (it installed new software), but afterwards, it was still stuck. So, I tried another method I found on the forums. I powered off holding the N button and power, which caused it to boot back up and do a factory reset. I now have a factory fresh Nook.
Okay, it's been a while since I kept this thread updated - I contacted BN and had the device sent back, apparently the SD slot failed so they sent me a new one. I'm just wondering if it's sheer concidence that it happened, as I was tinkering with Nookie Honey preview v0.4, when the hardware suddenly failed.
Oh well, I guess the NC still remains as a 99.99% unbrickable device - with the 0.01% being related to the ambiguous root cause to my case.
I now have 2 NCs (one from the RMA process, another one from the $199 eBay deal.
First I would like to thank all the good people on this forum who have made it possible for me to do this, this is truly awesome that I have full access to the android market and the ability to run the nook by simply taking out the uSD card.
On that note I have a couple of questions:
1. After writing over my 8GB class 4 Micro SD card is win32DiskImager, my cards space is down to about 114 MB, I was wondering why this is and if there was a way I can get all that space back.
2. I've come across Nook2Android.com and saw that there product allows you to jump from the nook operating system to the android system without the process of turning you nook off adding/removing the micro SD card, is there a way I can get that feature?
3. This question should be relatively easy to answer, but how do I change the wallpaper of CM7? This is my mothers nook and the wallpaper doesnt seem like something that she would really like.
4. And final question (for now ) how does buying apps from the market work, does it get charge to the google account I signed into or what? cause as of now I dont have a credit card tied to that account (I dont think).
Thanks again for all your help guys!
I figured out how to change the wallpaper lol
1. The 114MB you see is just the boot part of the SD card. The rest is there but Windows won't see it as it only sees the first partition. This is quite normal. Just plug the Nook into PC via the USB, click on the notification bar and turn on USB storage. The PC will now see the main user space which should be lots of GB. Transfer data to and from here and the Nook will see it when USB is disconnected.
2. When you power up hold down the N key. This will give text like menu. Go up/down with volume keys and N to select. For stock B&N select internal emmc memory and standard boot. For CM7 select SD and standard boot.
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4. You enter a credit card detail first time you buy something. That is remembered for future purchases.
char. said:
1. After writing over my 8GB class 4 Micro SD card is win32DiskImager, my cards space is down to about 114 MB, I was wondering why this is and if there was a way I can get all that space back.
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If you really want to "get all that space back", you'll need to re-partition your MicroSD card. It's easy to do in Win7:
Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Computer Management; Storage->Disk Management.
Just be absolutely sure exactly which "disk" your MicroSD card is before you delete all the partitions on it, then create one full-disk partition and format it w/ fat32.
cool thanks guys that was very helpful, is there anyway i can switch from nook without having to power down the nook or am always gonna have to power it down?
char. said:
cool thanks guys that was very helpful, is there anyway i can switch from nook without having to power down the nook or am always gonna have to power it down?
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If you are running from the SD card then you shouldn't need to repartition the card after the install procedure. That is needed if you are installing CM7 to the internal emmc memory.
When you are wanting to run the stock Nook SW you are effectively booting a different OS and as far as I know this will require a full reboot process. One might be able to automate this so that the reboot is started from CM7 rather than powering down but I don't recall seeing a documented method or App for this.
The other thing to consider is to put the B&N Android Nook app on CM7 if you just want to access / purchase / read your B&N books. It is OK for standard reading but doesn't do the magazines / illustrated children's stuff.
Yea noticed this myself hence I Gparted the SD card in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422457
Hello guys! This is my first post after visiting xda developers everyday for the past two weeks so bare with me...
I recently purchased an HTC HD7 from ebay at a very good price. I thought all was well with the free shipping and all...until the phone started restarting after the first day. So I panicked, searched on google and up pops up xda developers forum! It offered alot of solutions to many problems regarding resetting and restarting.
However after extensive research for the past two weeks, I finally recognized that the problem was the 'internal' SD card. The sellers from HK from whom i bought the phone had voided HTC warranty to insert one of their low class, cheap SDHC cards (which explains the reduction in cost) causing it to fail drastically as a phone. I know this happened because of a shiny warranty sticker with a bunch of chinese symbols on it. Updates won't work, factory reset happens on it's own, restarting even when i simply open up the messaging app and of course the infamous "storage card not working" error.
I've decided I cannot and do not want to send back my phone back in exchange for a new one since i will encounter the same problems. I've decided to have them compensate me for any repairs I have to make. So I read an article on xda dev about upgrading memory to 32GB using SanDisk Class 2 SDHC. Problem is, it is quite out of reach in my country so I would like to know a full list of compatible SDHC cards (not necessarily 32 gb). Also, what other hardware problems might be causing the occurances mentioned? I doubt it's a software problem, but say it is, what might be causing it?
Thank you!
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Hello guys! This is my first post after visiting xda developers everyday for the past two weeks so bare with me...
I recently purchased an HTC HD7 from ebay at a very good price. I thought all was well with the free shipping and all...until the phone started restarting after the first day. So I panicked, searched on google and up pops up xda developers forum! It offered alot of solutions to many problems regarding resetting and restarting.
However after extensive research for the past two weeks, I finally recognized that the problem was the 'internal' SD card. The sellers from HK from whom i bought the phone had voided HTC warranty to insert one of their low class, cheap SDHC cards (which explains the reduction in cost) causing it to fail drastically as a phone. I know this happened because of a shiny warranty sticker with a bunch of chinese symbols on it. Updates won't work, factory reset happens on it's own, restarting even when i simply open up the messaging app and of course the infamous "storage card not working" error.
I've decided I cannot and do not want to send back my phone back in exchange for a new one since i will encounter the same problems. I've decided to have them compensate me for any repairs I have to make. So I read an article on xda dev about upgrading memory to 32GB using SanDisk Class 2 SDHC. Problem is, it is quite out of reach in my country so I would like to know a full list of compatible SDHC cards (not necessarily 32 gb). Also, what other hardware problems might be causing the occurances mentioned? I doubt it's a software problem, but say it is, what might be causing it?
Thank you!
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I think your probably right, more than likely it is due to the cheap SD card!
The good thing is that almost all the newer manufactured SDHC cards will work in the HD7, class 2, through 10.
I would recommend at least the 8gb or the 16gb for storage capacity and a class 4 for read/write speeds.
Stay with a better brand like SanDisk or PNY.
Purchace it from someone that has a decent return policy, just incase you get a dud.
Run the CrystalDiskMark 4000mb test on it and post your results in the "upgrade your HTC HD7 memory to 32gb" thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883582
and they will be able to tell you if its a sufficient SD card for the HD7.
Thank you
xdrc45 said:
I think your probably right, more than likely it is due to the cheap SD card!
The good thing is that almost all the newer manufactured SDHC cards will work in the HD7, class 2, through 10.
I would recommend at least the 8gb or the 16gb for storage capacity and a class 4 for read/write speeds.
Stay with a better brand like SanDisk or PNY.
Purchace it from someone that has a decent return policy, just incase you get a dud.
Run the CrystalDiskMark 4000mb test on it and post your results in the "upgrade your HTC HD7 memory to 32gb" thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883582
and they will be able to tell you if its a sufficient SD card for the HD7.
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Where can I hit the thank you button? I cannot find it :S Also the phone is deteriorating day by day....Now it is out of battery and when i charge it, it goes into a loop of the HTC splash screen and a windows loading screen. It then freezes and repeats. Is there anything else that might be contributing to this? thanks!
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Where can I hit the thank you button? I cannot find it :S Also the phone is deteriorating day by day....Now it is out of battery and when i charge it, it goes into a loop of the HTC splash screen and a windows loading screen. It then freezes and repeats. Is there anything else that might be contributing to this? thanks!
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It's definitely possible and I wouldn't rule out a software issue, but I think the signs are pointing to a non- compliant SD card
The devices OS is reliant on the SD card to store user data and cache, contacts, SMS, emails and apps, without an SD card inserted or having a faulty SD card would cause these operations to crash and cause system errors when powering on the device, this in turn prevents it from operating and the system from loading and cause file system performance issues, device lockup, reset or boot loop.
Are you sure that they even put an SD card in your device? They or the original owner may have removed the SD card and not installed another one. Either way, I would start with putting a new SD card in your device and go from there!
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It's definitely possible and I wouldn't rule out a software issue, but I think the signs are pointing to a non- compliant SD card
The devices OS is reliant on the SD card to store user data and cache, contacts, SMS, emails and apps, without an SD card inserted or having a faulty SD card would cause these operations to crash and cause system errors when powering on the device, this in turn prevents it from operating and the system from loading and cause file system performance issues, device lockup, reset or boot loop.
Are you sure that they even put an SD card in your device? They or the original owner may have removed the SD card and not installed another one. Either way, I would start with putting a new SD card in your device and go from there!
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Yes I am sure they put in an SD card because i removed the back panel and it is clearly visible. One thing I find annoying is that they removed the protective metallic paper used to protect and hold the SDHC in place. Is there a way to use an alternative to this protective paper? I have also noticed the phone does have some on board memory ( 11MB) to be able to run. However there is no place for anything, messages, contacts, even for running applications such as IE! I'm guessing it is some kind of emergency memory? Anyways, my worry is that i feel that metallic strip is somewhat important so I would like to know how to replace it? Your help is very much appreciated!!!
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Yes I am sure they put in an SD card because i removed the back panel and it is clearly visible. One thing I find annoying is that they removed the protective metallic paper used to protect and hold the SDHC in place. Is there a way to use an alternative to this protective paper? I have also noticed the phone does have some on board memory ( 11MB) to be able to run. However there is no place for anything, messages, contacts, even for running applications such as IE! I'm guessing it is some kind of emergency memory? Anyways, my worry is that i feel that metallic strip is somewhat important so I would like to know how to replace it? Your help is very much appreciated!!!
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Glad I can be of help!
It sounds like it's not recognizing the SD card. Can you get the phone running and goto settings, about phone and check to see what it says for storage capacity. It should show, total storage and available storage.
As far as the metalic tape... I know that it's there to help prevent the SD card from coming out of the tray. Because WP7 Mango security locks the card to prevent any data from being removed from the card. So say you removed the card without unlocking it first, there is no way to extract the data from the card or format it with another device. If the HD7 is turned on without the SD card installed the card will no longer work in the device either.
Not a 100% sure if the tape serves any other purpose though. You could cut a piece of duct tape to fit and secure it in place use the good kind like gorilla duct tape.
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Glad I can be of help!
It sounds like it's not recognizing the SD card. Can you get the phone running and goto settings, about phone and check to see what it says for storage capacity. It should show, total storage and available storage.
As far as the metalic tape... I know that it's there to help prevent the SD card from coming out of the tray. Because WP7 Mango security locks the card to prevent any data from being removed from the card. So say you removed the card without unlocking it first, there is no way to extract the data from the card or format it with another device. If the HD7 is turned on without the SD card installed the card will no longer work in the device either.
Not a 100% sure if the tape serves any other purpose though. You could cut a piece of duct tape to fit and secure it in place use the good kind like gorilla duct tape.
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I have successfully inserted a 32Gb SanDisk SDHC Class 4 in my phone just a few hours ago. I performed a hard reset as instructed. When I booted up, the HTC splash screen showed up and it froze. For roughly 5 minutes...I plucked out the battery and again performed a hard reset. This time the device loaded with an error saying: low storage space please free up some space from your device. I tapped 'ok' and all I had was a black screen, although i know the OS booted up because i could hear system sounds, the bottom buttons were responsive and the lcok screen was visible. However when I slide up, no icons are visible except the wifi icon, the battery icon and the sim icon.
I tried loading the bootloader and as far as storage goes it is only recognizing some sort of 64MB partition from an "sd sandisk". Could this be a faulty installation of the OS on the new card? was I supposed to allow the system to take its time to load the software onto the new SD card? I am also unable to obtain the bootloader version etc that would be required to flash an RUU. Help would be appreciated!
cabe0018 said:
I have successfully inserted a 32Gb SanDisk SDHC Class 4 in my phone just a few hours ago. I performed a hard reset as instructed. When I booted up, the HTC splash screen showed up and it froze. For roughly 5 minutes...I plucked out the battery and again performed a hard reset. This time the device loaded with an error saying: low storage space please free up some space from your device. I tapped 'ok' and all I had was a black screen, although i know the OS booted up because i could hear system sounds, the bottom buttons were responsive and the lcok screen was visible. However when I slide up, no icons are visible except the wifi icon, the battery icon and the sim icon.
I tried loading the bootloader and as far as storage goes it is only recognizing some sort of 64MB partition from an "sd sandisk". Could this be a faulty installation of the OS on the new card? was I supposed to allow the system to take its time to load the software onto the new SD card? I am also unable to obtain the bootloader version etc that would be required to flash an RUU. Help would be appreciated!
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That's strange... The HD7 has an internal (primary) seperate memory for the OS, the SD card is a secondary memory for the device. Technically it's a non removable storage. So once inserted, you hard reset the device and the SD card is formatted and then it becomes a part of the device and it's integrated into the file system.
If you boot into bootloader mode (device off, hold down the volume down button and power the device back on, while continuing to hold down the volume down button) what's all the information on the bootloader screen? I'm wondering if it's bricked. Can you also get into USB host mode? Device off, hold down the volume down button and the camera button and then power back on.
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That's strange... The HD7 has an internal (primary) seperate memory for the OS, the SD card is a secondary memory for the device. Technically it's a non removable storage. So once inserted, you hard reset the device and the SD card is formatted and then it becomes a part of the device and it's integrated into the file system.
If you boot into bootloader mode (device off, hold down the volume down button and power the device back on, while continuing to hold down the volume down button) what's all the information on the bootloader screen? I'm wondering if it's bricked. Can you also get into USB host mode? Device off, hold down the volume down button and the camera button and then power back on.
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The device was not bricked. I inserted another SDHC card I had used for an old MP4. It was an 8GB TEAM SDHC class 2. The device booted up the OS on this card after a formatting and everything worked better than previously. However some restats were still happening. I tried loading the bootloader in an attempt to flash a custom ROM for the device but no USB text was seen on screen although Zune was recognizing the device perfectly. I decided to leave the device as is. Yesterday, I migrated to my grandma's for a week and I have a room where reception is great always full and no interruptions. A curious fact was that the phone did not restart once no matter how much I used it... and I did use it extensively downloading apps for the first 3 hours, constantly chatting on facebook, emails HTC hub and also voice recognition for messaging and searches. It was working 100% great. When I descended down the stairs (my room is on the first floor) and went to the kitchen I recieved a call from my girlfriend. I picked it up and reception was pretty bad, so I told her to message me instead. As I cut I realized the reception bar was zero. After a couple of minutes, the phone restarted for the first time since my stay at grandma's. I came to the inevitable conclusion that the mobile restarts everytime the reception is bad. This conclusion was backed up by working fine in my room and restarting every time I went to a low reception room. It hit me then that my house does have pretty bad reception where I reside most of the times which causes all those restarts. I am almost sure this is the cause of the restarting. However I am not sure what it infers... Regardless I am sending the phone back in exchange for a new one. However I do wish to know if anyone encountered the same problem, what they did to tackle it (besides running around like a madman to find reception), what causes this and if it is a model defect or a rare case. Thank you for your help!
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The device was not bricked. I inserted another SDHC card I had used for an old MP4. It was an 8GB TEAM SDHC class 2. The device booted up the OS on this card after a formatting and everything worked better than previously. However some restats were still happening. I tried loading the bootloader in an attempt to flash a custom ROM for the device but no USB text was seen on screen although Zune was recognizing the device perfectly. I decided to leave the device as is. Yesterday, I migrated to my grandma's for a week and I have a room where reception is great always full and no interruptions. A curious fact was that the phone did not restart once no matter how much I used it... and I did use it extensively downloading apps for the first 3 hours, constantly chatting on facebook, emails HTC hub and also voice recognition for messaging and searches. It was working 100% great. When I descended down the stairs (my room is on the first floor) and went to the kitchen I recieved a call from my girlfriend. I picked it up and reception was pretty bad, so I told her to message me instead. As I cut I realized the reception bar was zero. After a couple of minutes, the phone restarted for the first time since my stay at grandma's. I came to the inevitable conclusion that the mobile restarts everytime the reception is bad. This conclusion was backed up by working fine in my room and restarting every time I went to a low reception room. It hit me then that my house does have pretty bad reception where I reside most of the times which causes all those restarts. I am almost sure this is the cause of the restarting. However I am not sure what it infers... Regardless I am sending the phone back in exchange for a new one. However I do wish to know if anyone encountered the same problem, what they did to tackle it (besides running around like a madman to find reception), what causes this and if it is a model defect or a rare case. Thank you for your help!
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Yeah... If you can exchange it for another one I would!
If in bootloader mode the white section will display "serial" while not plugged in and "USB" while plugged in, if neither of these are present then the device is half/small bricked for sure, even if it's recognized by Zune. That can be fixed with the goldcard/ Y cable method too.
I have heard of some people having issues with restarts when on their network and while roaming outside of their network. One thing you can try is flashing different radio versions until you find one that gives the best signal. Another thing could be the OS build version and firmware version that your device is running on, it may need to be updated.
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Yeah... If you can exchange it for another one I would!
If in bootloader mode the white section will display "serial" while not plugged in and "USB" while plugged in, if neither of these are present then the device is half/small bricked for sure, even if it's recognized by Zune. That can be fixed with the goldcard/ Y cable method too.
I have heard of some people having issues with restarts when on their network and while roaming outside of their network. One thing you can try is flashing different radio versions until you find one that gives the best signal. Another thing could be the OS build version and firmware version that your device is running on, it may need to be updated.
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While I wish to thank you for your constant support and very useful suggestions on the matter, xdrc45, I am going to send the phone back very soon. Chances are I will recieve a replacement in two weeks time. Aside from this, I am sure the seller at HK will send me a phone with similar issues (Cross-fingers he won't), But since I am able to handle some very basic technical issues such as these, and the phone is at a good price (160EUR) I do not wish to refund. I'd much rather tinker with it a little here and there to customize it to my liking, ensure maximum potential of the phone and prevent issues. So my question is this: What steps should I take the minute the phone arrives (assuming they send me an identical copy of the phone they provided)? Do I need to supply myself with any hardware or software to be able to install the phone to function as though I bought it officially from HTC?
In reply to your suggestion on the bootloader: yes, the white section was always empty no matter what...so I'm guessing the phone was slowly dying away anyways. I will definately look further into the goldcard/ y cable.
Thanks!
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While I wish to thank you for your constant support and very useful suggestions on the matter, xdrc45, I am going to send the phone back very soon. Chances are I will recieve a replacement in two weeks time. Aside from this, I am sure the seller at HK will send me a phone with similar issues (Cross-fingers he won't), But since I am able to handle some very basic technical issues such as these, and the phone is at a good price (160EUR) I do not wish to refund. I'd much rather tinker with it a little here and there to customize it to my liking, ensure maximum potential of the phone and prevent issues. So my question is this: What steps should I take the minute the phone arrives (assuming they send me an identical copy of the phone they provided)? Do I need to supply myself with any hardware or software to be able to install the phone to function as though I bought it officially from HTC?
In reply to your suggestion on the bootloader: yes, the white section was always empty no matter what...so I'm guessing the phone was slowly dying away anyways. I will definately look further into the goldcard/ y cable.
Thanks!
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I think that's a good choice and hopefully the next one won't have the same problems for you!
The best thing to do when you get the new one is boot into bootloader mode and check the information, if you want post back all the info from the BL screen or provide a screen shot of it. Also go into settings, about phone, more info and post back all the information from there too. That way we can make sure everything is up to par on the device and functioning like it should and make sure it's not bricked and if it is we'll get it taken care of for you!
Any clues why?
As said, Samsung Galaxy S i9000 without any modifications apart from an official 2.2 to 2.3 Android upgrade from Samsung.
The phone got dropped before it was noticed, but not particularly hard.
The SD card was empty apart from two (empty) directories:
.andriod_secure
LOST.DIR
I ran RECUVA and it ONLY found 6 MP3 files, but none of the important movieclips of the kids in Eurodisney... The 6 MP3 files were in excellent shape, there were no other files found either in good or bad shape.
It's the wife's phone. She has older backups, but the backup after the Disney visit didn't work and she thought, meh, I'll try again in a while. Bad decision...
- What happened here?
- Did the phone actively wipe the card somehow?
- Can dropping a phone wipe an SD card (or can you think of any situation where this could even be remotely possible, like while writing to it)?
- Anything else I should try?
On a more technical level: how does an SD card work? Magnetically stored info on a platter of an old fashioned harddrive stays there after deleting the TOC (or whachamacallit, I thought this is what happens if you delete/format it). But the bits on an SD card also stay where they are after a simple 'delete' or 'format' action, right? So does that give an indication what happened, since I could only recover 35MB out of ~6GB used data? (8GB class 4 Sandisk)
As I understand it, electricity is used to write flash memory, but once it is in there, it stays in there.
(BTW, I worked in a company using flash memory in a device that would sometimes have an empty battery or where the PCB would even literally drown. The lack of battery power was clearly visible in a block of data, it started out normally, but would end in FF's (as seen with UltraEdit), a clear sign that this block had been wiped (all bytes set to FF), but while writing, it failed to finish writing the entire block. The drowning victims, we would remove the chip and place it on an external-read-out board and still be able to salvage data, even with half rotted pins on the chip :raz:. )
ETA: I've gotten it all figured, I think, and you can read my updates in the comments. I am STILL STUCK on this though:
ANY IDEA WHERE I CAN GET A NEW REPLACEMENT NOOK HD+ CABLE??? This 'unique' style is the STUPIDEST IDEA EVER, because I cannot find one ANYWHERE on Ebay or Amazon, and am NOT paying a crapload of cash to B&N to get this cord plus other stuff I don't want. The cord has a very loose, bent, worn spot on it just before it gets to the plug for the Nook end, and it frequently disconnects itself. (I know how to keep an eye on it though so this wouldn't be the reason for my other problems in this post.)
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I got a new Nook HD+ based on the amazing HD display and that I was looking for an eReader/Tablet closer to 10"
I was NOT happy at ALL with the original Nook OS, so after a while of digging and asking around, and not being able to shell out $60+ for the Amazon.com 'N2A' or 'AFN' cards, I found the thread on here showing how to install it myself. (Cyanogenmod 10.1) Well, it installed clean and easy, but then I tried putting in my formatted (empty) 32gb micro SD card, and then tried sideloading my videos, ebooks, etc. I have tried several different ways to transfer files to this thing, and it WILL NOT WORK! It refuses to show ANY of my files, even though it shows that all this space has been used on the card.
I was just trying to delete all these files and start over with transferring them, but now whenever I open the 'My Nook' window from the 'My Computer' window when my HD+ is connected, it will sit there on a white empty box, and show the top bar loading for like EVER. It shows this green bar S L O W L Y loading up, and it has never done this before! It took a good 20 minutes to do this on the SD card window, and then just showed a blank box, when it still had files on it.
I took out the card and formatted it again in my laptop SD card adapter. I was then trying to access the files in My Nook to delete some of them, and it does the same loading forever BS.
Before I did this clean CM 10.1 install, the Nook would still not show any files sideloaded onto a card. I have tried my 64gb Samsung class 10 SDXC card also, with the same results of not showing any files. I am using Calibre to load the ebooks up, and I see them all in the folder when I check it on my Laptop, but I haven't really installed any apps from the Google store yet, so I don't know for sure if the ebooks will work. I just know that searching the files on the Nook itself show NOTHING...
PLEASE HELP!! I have spent literally a WEEK of SOLID TIME in converting video files, transferring files, and formatting/installing/rooting/whatever my Nook, and I haven't gotten ANYWHERE really. I love the interface on this CM OS, but I am primarily wanting to use this for watching MY MOVIES that I have already on my laptop...
ANY help is much appreciated, because I feel like I wasted a crapload of money and this is just sitting here driving me nuts!!
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!
Ok
Couple of things to check here.
1. If you put the card into a windows machine, does it show that the card is 32gig? Does it show any files on the card?
If YES to both, then the card is fine. If NO, then you need to reformat the card and get it back to 32gig and showing files. If you need help with that, there are some apps on the web that can help....
2. On your Nook, load up a file viewing app. For ease of comparison, load "File manager HD"from the Play Store. Use the app to navigate to the External SD card and validate that you can see the card, that it is 32gig and you can see files? If yes you are good to go, if no, then if number 1 above is OK, there is something wrong with the CM 10.1 load or with your Nook.
3. If the issue is now installing APK files from the card, you should be able to from File Manger HD, as long as you have turned off "unknonw sources" in the settings menu.
Settings -- Security -- unknonw sources checkmark needs to be checked.
Give those things a shot and report back your results. the HD+ is an awesome unit and it sounds like you may have a tiny issue somewhere.
Thanks for the help, but the card is fine. I've used the card for other things before, and I have formatted it multiple times. My question is, how can you expect to see files on it after it has been formatted? The format wipes all files from the card.
Also, I was not trying to load apps. I thought I had made that clear in my post, that my problem is trying to load videos/movies onto the card. I searched online for hours, and couldn't find anything useful or helpful on why I couldn't load video files, but there was a huge abundance of forums, YouTube videos, and other help on how to load apps to an SD card...
I stayed up the whole night messing with this, and ended up taking the 64gb class 10 card from my phone and using that in my Nook, and after about 12 hours of straight work, I got some movies to load on it. I found a half-decent video player in Gapps that I could watch them on.
My next problem: the battery on this thing is horrendous. I had it sitting, fully charged before hand, and in sleep mode, for about 4 hours, and the battery went down 10%! I notice when I am browsing the Nook, not playing videos or getting online, I discharge about twice that fast. At this rate, I will be darn lucky to watch a 2-hour movie before the battery dies...
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Couple of things to check here.
1. If you put the card into a windows machine, does it show that the card is 32gig? Does it show any files on the card?
If YES to both, then the card is fine. If NO, then you need to reformat the card and get it back to 32gig and showing files. If you need help with that, there are some apps on the web that can help....
2. On your Nook, load up a file viewing app. For ease of comparison, load "File manager HD"from the Play Store. Use the app to navigate to the External SD card and validate that you can see the card, that it is 32gig and you can see files? If yes you are good to go, if no, then if number 1 above is OK, there is something wrong with the CM 10.1 load or with your Nook.
3. If the issue is now installing APK files from the card, you should be able to from File Manger HD, as long as you have turned off "unknonw sources" in the settings menu.
Settings -- Security -- unknonw sources checkmark needs to be checked.
Give those things a shot and report back your results. the HD+ is an awesome unit and it sounds like you may have a tiny issue somewhere.
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I have tried several different ways to transfer files to this thing, and it WILL NOT WORK! It refuses to show ANY of my files, even though it shows that all this space has been used on the card.
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1: What ways did you try exactly? Have you tried Airdroid? That is my go to for transferring files to and from my devices. That way, I don't have to mess about with connecting USB cables and whatnot.
2: What is "it"? You say "it will not work" and "it refuses to show.." and "it shows all this space".
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but now whenever I open the 'My Nook' window from the 'My Computer' window when my HD+ is connected, it will sit there on a white empty box, and show the top bar loading for like EVER. It shows this green bar S L O W L Y loading up, and it has never done this before! It took a good 20 minutes to do this on the SD card window, and then just showed a blank box, when it still had files on it.
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So you have the SD card loaded in the Nook and are browsing it via USB cable on your Windows 7 machine? Just trying to clarify how exactly you are doing this.
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I took out the card and formatted it again in my laptop SD card adapter.
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Did you use the same adapter to load the files? Did that not work?
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I was then trying to access the files in My Nook to delete some of them, and it does the same loading forever BS.
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Does this occur when the SD card is freshly formatted or only when there are files on it?
slow_mo_panda said:
Before I did this clean CM 10.1 install, the Nook would still not show any files sideloaded onto a card. I have tried my 64gb Samsung class 10 SDXC card also, with the same results of not showing any files. I am using Calibre to load the ebooks up, and I see them all in the folder when I check it on my Laptop, but I haven't really installed any apps from the Google store yet, so I don't know for sure if the ebooks will work. I just know that searching the files on the Nook itself show NOTHING...
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Odd. What size and format are the movies? Do these cards work fine on other devices?
How did you format the SD cards? Did you put them in the Nook and format them, or did you format them in Windows and then put them in the Nook? Are they formatted with the correct file type? Taken from the user manual:
To format the memory card, do this:
1.
Tap the
Format Now
button to format the memory card.
Your NOOK displays a warning that formatting the memory card will erase its contents.
2.
Tap the
Format Now
button again to confirm that you want to format the memory card.
Your NOOK formats the card with the exFAT file system.
Have you try formating your sdcard to fat32. Try that it should work
SPH-L720_!
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How did you format the SD cards? Did you put them in the Nook and format them, or did you format them in Windows and then put them in the Nook? Are they formatted with the correct file type? Taken from the user manual:
To format the memory card, do this:
1.
Tap the
Format Now
button to format the memory card.
Your NOOK displays a warning that formatting the memory card will erase its contents.
2.
Tap the
Format Now
button again to confirm that you want to format the memory card.
Your NOOK formats the card with the exFAT file system.
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Where is that option is CM 10.1? I have been unsuccessful in finding an in device format method. If it's in the user manual, chances are this operation is in the stock rom and does OP no good.
hooah212002 said:
Where is that option is CM 10.1? I have been unsuccessful in finding an in device format method. If it's in the user manual, chances are this operation is in the stock rom and does OP no good.
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I don't there is one (as far as I can see). My point was that I believe the 64 GB SD has to be formatted with exFat in order to work. I think the 32 GB card can be either exFat or Fat32.
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I don't there is one (as far as I can see). My point was that I believe the 64 GB SD has to be formatted with exFat in order to work. I think the 32 GB card can be either exFat or Fat32.
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Ahh, I see. I did not know that. thanks.
hooah212002 said:
1: What ways did you try exactly? Have you tried Airdroid? That is my go to for transferring files to and from my devices. That way, I don't have to mess about with connecting USB cables and whatnot.
2: What is "it"? You say "it will not work" and "it refuses to show.." and "it shows all this space".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I tried every way. And no, I couldn't try ANY apps because I hadn't gotten that far yet. I always start by just transferring my content and then shop for apps. When I was saying "It" I meant the card.
So you have the SD card loaded in the Nook and are browsing it via USB cable on your Windows 7 machine? Just trying to clarify how exactly you are doing this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I had usually accessed the card via my Nook plugged into my laptop, unless I was re-formatting the card or deleting files from it, then I had it in my laptop's SD slot.
Did you use the same adapter to load the files? Did that not work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When I said 'adapter' I meant just the regular SD card size adapter I had insterted the micro card into. And this adapter had been working fine for a long time before. I did try other adapters also.
Does this occur when the SD card is freshly formatted or only when there are files on it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>After I had put some files on it, and was then going back to delete some or all of them, this loading problem occurred. And I hadn't even used a third of the space on my card, so it should not have been so slow to show 3 or 4 files in the window.
Odd. What size and format are the movies? Do these cards work fine on other devices?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Not sure what size you mean, I had several HD .mp4 movie files, none bigger than 2gb. I used the 32gb card multiple times to transfer movie files between computers, and the 64gb card I finally got to work was in my Note 2 phone since the day I bought it. I am not happy I had to take the card out of my phone, but oddly enough, the 32gb card that the Nook refused to take is working fine with videos in my phone now...
If you didn't see my comment just below my OP, I have it working now, more or less...
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How did you format the SD cards? Did you put them in the Nook and format them, or did you format them in Windows and then put them in the Nook? Are they formatted with the correct file type? Taken from the user manual:
To format the memory card, do this:
1.
Tap the
Format Now
button to format the memory card.
Your NOOK displays a warning that formatting the memory card will erase its contents.
2.
Tap the
Format Now
button again to confirm that you want to format the memory card.
Your NOOK formats the card with the exFAT file system.
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I used the free windows program/app called 'SDFormatter' that was recommended to me in the thread that I used here for the CM 10.1 Rom... And I got the 64gb class 10 card that WAS in my phone to work after it was formatted to exFAT.
FORMAT
To clarify all the other comments/confusion on SD card format...
The 32gb card I had I am not positive what format it was, but I believe it was FAT32, and the Nook did NOT format the card, or make any effort to, and even after I formatted it myself in many ways, it was still FAT32...
The 64gb card was either always exFAT, or was turned into exFAT when I formatted it just prior to inserting into the Nook. I believe this was a big reason the 32gb card wasn't working for me, along with my having to COPY the 'My Files' folder from the Nook Onboard storage, and PASTE the folder into my SD card storage, which I then put all my videos and other content into, and afterwards it worked fine...
slow_mo_panda said:
I got a new Nook HD+ based on the amazing HD display and that I was looking for an eReader/Tablet closer to 10"
I was NOT happy at ALL with the original Nook OS, so after a while of digging and asking around, and not being able to shell out $60+ for the Amazon.com 'N2A' or 'AFN' cards, I found the thread on here showing how to install it myself. (Cyanogenmod 10.1) Well, it installed clean and easy, but then I tried putting in my formatted (empty) 32gb micro SD card, and then tried sideloading my videos, ebooks, etc. I have tried several different ways to transfer files to this thing, and it WILL NOT WORK! It refuses to show ANY of my files, even though it shows that all this space has been used on the card.
I was just trying to delete all these files and start over with transferring them, but now whenever I open the 'My Nook' window from the 'My Computer' window when my HD+ is connected, it will sit there on a white empty box, and show the top bar loading for like EVER. It shows this green bar S L O W L Y loading up, and it has never done this before! It took a good 20 minutes to do this on the SD card window, and then just showed a blank box, when it still had files on it.
I took out the card and formatted it again in my laptop SD card adapter. I was then trying to access the files in My Nook to delete some of them, and it does the same loading forever BS.
Before I did this clean CM 10.1 install, the Nook would still not show any files sideloaded onto a card. I have tried my 64gb Samsung class 10 SDXC card also, with the same results of not showing any files. I am using Calibre to load the ebooks up, and I see them all in the folder when I check it on my Laptop, but I haven't really installed any apps from the Google store yet, so I don't know for sure if the ebooks will work. I just know that searching the files on the Nook itself show NOTHING...
PLEASE HELP!! I have spent literally a WEEK of SOLID TIME in converting video files, transferring files, and formatting/installing/rooting/whatever my Nook, and I haven't gotten ANYWHERE really. I love the interface on this CM OS, but I am primarily wanting to use this for watching MY MOVIES that I have already on my laptop...
ANY help is much appreciated, because I feel like I wasted a crapload of money and this is just sitting here driving me nuts!!
PS: ANY IDEA WHERE I CAN GET A NEW REPLACEMENT NOOK HD+ CABLE??? This 'unique' style is the STUPIDEST IDEA EVER, because I cannot find one ANYWHERE on Ebay or Amazon, and am NOT paying a crapload of cash to B&N to get this cord plus other stuff I don't want. The cord has a very loose, bent, worn spot on it just before it gets to the plug for the Nook end, and it frequently disconnects itself. (I know how to keep an eye on it though so this wouldn't be the reason for my other problems in this post.)
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!
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What apps are you using? Different apps store things in different places, I was trying epub readers and the last one found 3 copies of every book I had scattered all over internal and external storage.
I settled on the Nook Reader app, and it took a while to figure it out. I installed the APK, then I had to reboot the HD+ to get the Nook folder to show up on my pc. I then simply moved the epub files to BN NookHD+/internal storage/Nook/My Documents/ - I used the following - /Author/Book/epub file. They were showing up as they were being pasted, and work fine.
For movies I use MX Player with the mkv codec so I can watch movies with converting them. I would also rather stream with ES File Explorer and MX Player, but I can move the files to my sd card and watch as well.
You can only get the cable from B&N, or search for a used one, yes it's stupid, but it's also covered under the warranty. Take it back and they will replace it, under the 1 year warranty or the extended 2 year one, they replaced my cord/charger (wall part) with no questions ask - it hummed - and annoyed me, I told the gal working "This thing hums and is distracts me while reading, I need another one" the gal said "No problem" grabbed a box and pulled one out and away I went. You can also buy just the cable for $14.95.
My Nook sometimes loads very slowly when connecting it to my Windows 7 desktop, but nothing like you are describing.
When you used SD Formatter, did you enable "Format Size Adjustment"?
slow_mo_panda said:
Thanks for the help, but the card is fine. I've used the card for other things before, and I have formatted it multiple times. My question is, how can you expect to see files on it after it has been formatted? The format wipes all files from the card.
Also, I was not trying to load apps. I thought I had made that clear in my post, that my problem is trying to load videos/movies onto the card. I searched online for hours, and couldn't find anything useful or helpful on why I couldn't load video files, but there was a huge abundance of forums, YouTube videos, and other help on how to load apps to an SD card...
I stayed up the whole night messing with this, and ended up taking the 64gb class 10 card from my phone and using that in my Nook, and after about 12 hours of straight work, I got some movies to load on it. I found a half-decent video player in Gapps that I could watch them on.
My next problem: the battery on this thing is horrendous. I had it sitting, fully charged before hand, and in sleep mode, for about 4 hours, and the battery went down 10%! I notice when I am browsing the Nook, not playing videos or getting online, I discharge about twice that fast. At this rate, I will be darn lucky to watch a 2-hour movie before the battery dies...
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Did you mess with the Performance settings in CM10.1? If not, I'd say the battery is dying. That is way to short, I streamed "Lucky Number Slevin" @ 720P for an hour and fifty minutes and didn't use, but 15% of my battery, it was fully charged before starting the movie. So everything was turned on and actually working the whole time.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Not sure what size you mean, I had several HD .mp4 movie files, none bigger than 2gb. I used the 32gb card multiple times to transfer movie files between computers, and the 64gb card I finally got to work was in my Note 2 phone since the day I bought it. I am not happy I had to take the card out of my phone, but oddly enough, the 32gb card that the Nook refused to take is working fine with videos in my phone now...
If you didn't see my comment just below my OP, I have it working now, more or less...
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slow_mo_panda said:
To clarify all the other comments/confusion on SD card format...
The 32gb card I had I am not positive what format it was, but I believe it was FAT32, and the Nook did NOT format the card, or make any effort to, and even after I formatted it myself in many ways, it was still FAT32...
The 64gb card was either always exFAT, or was turned into exFAT when I formatted it just prior to inserting into the Nook. I believe this was a big reason the 32gb card wasn't working for me, along with my having to COPY the 'My Files' folder from the Nook Onboard storage, and PASTE the folder into my SD card storage, which I then put all my videos and other content into, and afterwards it worked fine...
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Sorry, I answered your questions out of order, I'm too tired to order things correctly, but I think I answered everything. Oh, I'm using the cheapest Sandisk Class 4 32GB card, I could buy at Staples for $30, and it works fine.
Hope this helps, don't get too discouraged, when you get it working right, it's a great tablet.
Good Luck!
Thanks for tips, Still hung-up on battery/cord...
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You can only get the cable from B&N, or search for a used one, yes it's stupid, but it's also covered under the warranty. Take it back and they will replace it, under the 1 year warranty or the extended 2 year one, they replaced my cord/charger (wall part) with no questions ask - it hummed - and annoyed me, I told the gal working "This thing hums and is distracts me while reading, I need another one" the gal said "No problem" grabbed a box and pulled one out and away I went. You can also buy just the cable for $14.95.
When you used SD Formatter, did you enable "Format Size Adjustment"?
Did you mess with the Performance settings in CM10.1? If not, I'd say the battery is dying. That is way to short, I streamed "Lucky Number Slevin" @ 720P for an hour and fifty minutes and didn't use, but 15% of my battery, it was fully charged before starting the movie. So everything was turned on and actually working the whole time.
Hope this helps, don't get too discouraged, when you get it working right, it's a great tablet.
Good Luck!
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I found and wrote down the number for B&N, I will try giving them a call tomorrow. Do you know if they would send me one free if I bought the Nook secondhand? Should I just not tell them I got it used?
Yes, my battery seems to be pretty bad off, and the guy who sold it on eBay of course said it was barely used, and had NO problems. I have emailed him thru ebay asking for a partial refund, and I may contact ebay about this if he does not want to be cooperative. I paid $145 for it, which is basically what I could get a new one for now, I just didn't notice that when I got it a couple months ago. Do you think B&N would sell me a cheap battery? Or do you know where I can get one? I had bought a 'Like NEW' Nook First Edition (still my fav. basic eBook Reader) for my mom around Christmas time for $60, and then after I got it, and she used it for all of 15 minutes, turned it on 2 or 3 times, and it ended up freezing on the screensaver. I tried looking up and attempting any 'fixes' and nothing was working. I've powered it down and removed the battery and it's oddly still showing a screen saver pic. :/ So I had to contact the seller after it had been about 4 weeks since I bought it, and he used the excuse of it being over a month, and said I had emailed him and said it was working great before, when all I'd done was send him an update that I did get it and my mom was happy, but this was before she tried turning it on again. After sending eBay a complaint, they made the guy refund my money. I would have even returned the reader to him if he had worked with me in the refund, but I still have it, for all the good it is. Basically a paperweight. lol
Anyway, thanks for the tips, and I REALLY hope I can figure out the battery thing because I love the Android Nook, and I finally have a tablet with HD movie playback which is what I've wanted for a long time!
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I found and wrote down the number for B&N, I will try giving them a call tomorrow. Do you know if they would send me one free if I bought the Nook secondhand? Should I just not tell them I got it used?
Yes, my battery seems to be pretty bad off, and the guy who sold it on eBay of course said it was barely used, and had NO problems. I have emailed him thru ebay asking for a partial refund, and I may contact ebay about this if he does not want to be cooperative. I paid $145 for it, which is basically what I could get a new one for now, I just didn't notice that when I got it a couple months ago. Do you think B&N would sell me a cheap battery? Or do you know where I can get one? I had bought a 'Like NEW' Nook First Edition (still my fav. basic eBook Reader) for my mom around Christmas time for $60, and then after I got it, and she used it for all of 15 minutes, turned it on 2 or 3 times, and it ended up freezing on the screensaver. I tried looking up and attempting any 'fixes' and nothing was working. I've powered it down and removed the battery and it's oddly still showing a screen saver pic. :/ So I had to contact the seller after it had been about 4 weeks since I bought it, and he used the excuse of it being over a month, and said I had emailed him and said it was working great before, when all I'd done was send him an update that I did get it and my mom was happy, but this was before she tried turning it on again. After sending eBay a complaint, they made the guy refund my money. I would have even returned the reader to him if he had worked with me in the refund, but I still have it, for all the good it is. Basically a paperweight. lol
Anyway, thanks for the tips, and I REALLY hope I can figure out the battery thing because I love the Android Nook, and I finally have a tablet with HD movie playback which is what I've wanted for a long time!
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I don't think they will send you one for free, I took mine in and exchanged it, but I was still under my extended 2 year warranty. I also spend a lot of time at my B&N, so that may have helped speed me through the process.
They will not sell you a battery, they claim you have to be a "certified tech" to change them. From the tear-down posted on youtube, it seems quite possible and fairly easy, but don't know where you'd get a battery. It's a risk removing the plastic around the screen, and it seemed like the clips/tabs that hold it on got broken, so you would probably need some two-sided foam tape, kind of like body-side molding tape, made by 3M.
I would try and get eBay to give you a refund or at least enough to cover sending it in for battery replacement and another $15 for the cord replacement as well. "Like new" doesn't have a messed up cord, and a battery that won't hold 30% of it's original charge, offer to send eBay pictures of the damaged cord.
UGH. Ebay!
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I would try and get eBay to give you a refund or at least enough to cover sending it in for battery replacement and another $15 for the cord replacement as well. "Like new" doesn't have a messed up cord, and a battery that won't hold 30% of it's original charge, offer to send eBay pictures of the damaged cord.
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Well, I called B&N and after 30 min. wait, spoke to a barely legible lady who checked my account, and said that she was 'placing the order' after she asked if I wanted them to send me a new one. She never once indicated that it would be charged to my account, or that they were charging me for the cord. But then she said that they were out of cords, and to try calling back Monday. But then she didn't sound like she really knew well enough what she was doing, as I had to explain to her 3 times when she first answered my call, that I needed a NEW CORD, because the one I had had a short in it.
As for eBay, the d-bag I emailed (goldnuggetpawn) about the Nook said, "We tested the product thoroughly, and there were no problems with the battery, and the cord was brand new, and the auction showed pictures of the cord. We only offer a complete refund within 14 days of purchase, and it has been longer than that. We do not offer partial refunds."
So basically I have a Nook that's about to crap out any time, that I have to keep plugged into the wall to use, and that I have to fight with multiple time to transfer files on because the cord is junk. I have to say I am BEYOND DONE with eBay and their BS. I seem to have the WORST luck with them, and I have had enough. They allow people to get away with anything, and I am currently stuck with them trying to charge me $67+ in 'seller fees' because I listed 2 items, one which I actually sold (a netbook for $200) and one which someone did use the 'Buy-Out' for, but then never bothered to pay me, contact me, or respond to my emails. So I get charged a huge fee for selling something that I was never paid for! And they are saying it's too late to file a non-paying buyer report, because I did what they told me to do and tried filing a different report first, then was told I had to wait for the buyer to respond (when they had already not replied to half a dozen messages!) and apparently after all that, it had been too long to file another report. This buyer/scammer who made an account just minutes before buying my DVD lot, lives in Tunisia (allegedly) when I had made the auction to sell to US and Canada ONLY. I am just so tired of being burned, I guess.
It's going to be hard to show in pictures, because the cord is still intact, it's just very loose and 'bendy' on the end, and it shouldn't be, it's in a thick rubberized type coating, and does not bend.
Anyway, thanks for the help, and I will keep working on it. I may be forced to just sell it now as an Android CM10.2 (I think it would sell better that way) and get me something else...