[Q] Unmodified i9000: SD card suddenly empty - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Any clues why?
As said, Samsung Galaxy S i9000 without any modifications apart from an official 2.2 to 2.3 Android upgrade from Samsung.
The phone got dropped before it was noticed, but not particularly hard.
The SD card was empty apart from two (empty) directories:
.andriod_secure
LOST.DIR
I ran RECUVA and it ONLY found 6 MP3 files, but none of the important movieclips of the kids in Eurodisney... The 6 MP3 files were in excellent shape, there were no other files found either in good or bad shape.
It's the wife's phone. She has older backups, but the backup after the Disney visit didn't work and she thought, meh, I'll try again in a while. Bad decision...
- What happened here?
- Did the phone actively wipe the card somehow?
- Can dropping a phone wipe an SD card (or can you think of any situation where this could even be remotely possible, like while writing to it)?
- Anything else I should try?
On a more technical level: how does an SD card work? Magnetically stored info on a platter of an old fashioned harddrive stays there after deleting the TOC (or whachamacallit, I thought this is what happens if you delete/format it). But the bits on an SD card also stay where they are after a simple 'delete' or 'format' action, right? So does that give an indication what happened, since I could only recover 35MB out of ~6GB used data? (8GB class 4 Sandisk)
As I understand it, electricity is used to write flash memory, but once it is in there, it stays in there.
(BTW, I worked in a company using flash memory in a device that would sometimes have an empty battery or where the PCB would even literally drown. The lack of battery power was clearly visible in a block of data, it started out normally, but would end in FF's (as seen with UltraEdit), a clear sign that this block had been wiped (all bytes set to FF), but while writing, it failed to finish writing the entire block. The drowning victims, we would remove the chip and place it on an external-read-out board and still be able to salvage data, even with half rotted pins on the chip :raz:. )

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[SOLVED] Apps2SD problem with sd

I had apps2sd by lucidrem running on my phone and it was fine. I was out today and my sd card was 'removed' although I didn't touch it. This ended up bricking my phone, because the sd is removed and there is no data or delvik etc. Is there a method to use apps2sd without it being permanently affected when an sd is removed?
A reinstall of rom has fixed it however I have lost everything off the phone now
Thanks
Tucka
LucidRem's Apps2SD uses symlinks which I believe is now preferred over the one used by MarcusMaximus (forgot what its called ) only way to remove a sdcard safely without screwing up your phone is if the phone is turned off. No idea how the sdcard was 'removed' if you didn't touch it. Happened sometimes to me, but never found out what caused it. Hope this helps.
Best to apply Apps2SD again really or use a ROM that automatically enables it by default if a partition exists (Cyanogen/Dude).
Also a small sidenote... The term "brick" means your device would no longer be functional at all, I.E Unable to turn it on using any method. A more suitable term would probably be "crashed" instead.
I only mention this because the term bricked is being used far too loosely to describe the wrong symptoms.
Sorry for loosing brick loosly, just presumed that was what it was when the phone won't get past the G1 splash. So, say I want to watch a movie or something on a different memory card (won't be able to fit all my stuff on one) all I have to do is switch phone off, remove memory card, insert different one (preferably also with a2sd configured for meridian video?) and that will work?
I think the problem is with movement and sudden knocks that the card comes out. I was running through a storm when it said memory card was removed.
Thanks
No worries about the terms as there are an awful lot of them in the world of technology! Long as we're all learning then we can't argue ^_^
To be honest, hot swapping SD cards is a bit long winded... Its best to save up and invest in a larger memory card if possible (Class 6). Not sure what size your SD card is, but if it can't hold a movie then it could be time to buy a new one.
Also if you use the older Apps2SD program (1.1 I believe) it uses Symlinks as alritewhadeva mentioned and it shouldn't cause your phone to crash totally if the SD card is removed.
Best solution though is to buy a new SD card, you should be able to find one on the cheap on the net.
its an 8gb C4, however I am travelling and will be on a 10 hour flight later this month, and was wanting lots of films and tv shows etc. May just compress and squeeze them onto my 8GB.
Thanks a lot
Tucka
using a2sd and 2 memory cards doesnt work. All your app data and cache is on your sd card and the phone wont be able to boot without the right sd card in the phone (trust me i have tried). I suggest buying a new card maybe 16 gb.
Hope they have a charging point on your flight! It would kill your battery watching a movie for that long haha. Better off with an iPod/MP3 player I reckon.
But yeah, you can either add more compression or reduce the resolution/framerate to fit more on your SD card. Quality will drop but at least it will keep you entertained.
2 batteries plus a portable battery charger ftw
Haha, that should be sufficient then! Very well prepared ^_^ I was thinking about getting one of those wind up backup chargers for emergancy use once... No idea if its any good.
If everything is sorted tuka, could you please edit the title to add "[SOLVED]" so people know? Thanks!

Non- compliant internal storage cards

Hello guys! This is my first post after visiting xda developers everyday for the past two weeks so bare with me...
I recently purchased an HTC HD7 from ebay at a very good price. I thought all was well with the free shipping and all...until the phone started restarting after the first day. So I panicked, searched on google and up pops up xda developers forum! It offered alot of solutions to many problems regarding resetting and restarting.
However after extensive research for the past two weeks, I finally recognized that the problem was the 'internal' SD card. The sellers from HK from whom i bought the phone had voided HTC warranty to insert one of their low class, cheap SDHC cards (which explains the reduction in cost) causing it to fail drastically as a phone. I know this happened because of a shiny warranty sticker with a bunch of chinese symbols on it. Updates won't work, factory reset happens on it's own, restarting even when i simply open up the messaging app and of course the infamous "storage card not working" error.
I've decided I cannot and do not want to send back my phone back in exchange for a new one since i will encounter the same problems. I've decided to have them compensate me for any repairs I have to make. So I read an article on xda dev about upgrading memory to 32GB using SanDisk Class 2 SDHC. Problem is, it is quite out of reach in my country so I would like to know a full list of compatible SDHC cards (not necessarily 32 gb). Also, what other hardware problems might be causing the occurances mentioned? I doubt it's a software problem, but say it is, what might be causing it?
Thank you!
cabe0018 said:
Hello guys! This is my first post after visiting xda developers everyday for the past two weeks so bare with me...
I recently purchased an HTC HD7 from ebay at a very good price. I thought all was well with the free shipping and all...until the phone started restarting after the first day. So I panicked, searched on google and up pops up xda developers forum! It offered alot of solutions to many problems regarding resetting and restarting.
However after extensive research for the past two weeks, I finally recognized that the problem was the 'internal' SD card. The sellers from HK from whom i bought the phone had voided HTC warranty to insert one of their low class, cheap SDHC cards (which explains the reduction in cost) causing it to fail drastically as a phone. I know this happened because of a shiny warranty sticker with a bunch of chinese symbols on it. Updates won't work, factory reset happens on it's own, restarting even when i simply open up the messaging app and of course the infamous "storage card not working" error.
I've decided I cannot and do not want to send back my phone back in exchange for a new one since i will encounter the same problems. I've decided to have them compensate me for any repairs I have to make. So I read an article on xda dev about upgrading memory to 32GB using SanDisk Class 2 SDHC. Problem is, it is quite out of reach in my country so I would like to know a full list of compatible SDHC cards (not necessarily 32 gb). Also, what other hardware problems might be causing the occurances mentioned? I doubt it's a software problem, but say it is, what might be causing it?
Thank you!
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I think your probably right, more than likely it is due to the cheap SD card!
The good thing is that almost all the newer manufactured SDHC cards will work in the HD7, class 2, through 10.
I would recommend at least the 8gb or the 16gb for storage capacity and a class 4 for read/write speeds.
Stay with a better brand like SanDisk or PNY.
Purchace it from someone that has a decent return policy, just incase you get a dud.
Run the CrystalDiskMark 4000mb test on it and post your results in the "upgrade your HTC HD7 memory to 32gb" thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883582
and they will be able to tell you if its a sufficient SD card for the HD7.
Thank you
xdrc45 said:
I think your probably right, more than likely it is due to the cheap SD card!
The good thing is that almost all the newer manufactured SDHC cards will work in the HD7, class 2, through 10.
I would recommend at least the 8gb or the 16gb for storage capacity and a class 4 for read/write speeds.
Stay with a better brand like SanDisk or PNY.
Purchace it from someone that has a decent return policy, just incase you get a dud.
Run the CrystalDiskMark 4000mb test on it and post your results in the "upgrade your HTC HD7 memory to 32gb" thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883582
and they will be able to tell you if its a sufficient SD card for the HD7.
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Where can I hit the thank you button? I cannot find it :S Also the phone is deteriorating day by day....Now it is out of battery and when i charge it, it goes into a loop of the HTC splash screen and a windows loading screen. It then freezes and repeats. Is there anything else that might be contributing to this? thanks!
cabe0018 said:
Where can I hit the thank you button? I cannot find it :S Also the phone is deteriorating day by day....Now it is out of battery and when i charge it, it goes into a loop of the HTC splash screen and a windows loading screen. It then freezes and repeats. Is there anything else that might be contributing to this? thanks!
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It's definitely possible and I wouldn't rule out a software issue, but I think the signs are pointing to a non- compliant SD card
The devices OS is reliant on the SD card to store user data and cache, contacts, SMS, emails and apps, without an SD card inserted or having a faulty SD card would cause these operations to crash and cause system errors when powering on the device, this in turn prevents it from operating and the system from loading and cause file system performance issues, device lockup, reset or boot loop.
Are you sure that they even put an SD card in your device? They or the original owner may have removed the SD card and not installed another one. Either way, I would start with putting a new SD card in your device and go from there!
xdrc45 said:
It's definitely possible and I wouldn't rule out a software issue, but I think the signs are pointing to a non- compliant SD card
The devices OS is reliant on the SD card to store user data and cache, contacts, SMS, emails and apps, without an SD card inserted or having a faulty SD card would cause these operations to crash and cause system errors when powering on the device, this in turn prevents it from operating and the system from loading and cause file system performance issues, device lockup, reset or boot loop.
Are you sure that they even put an SD card in your device? They or the original owner may have removed the SD card and not installed another one. Either way, I would start with putting a new SD card in your device and go from there!
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Yes I am sure they put in an SD card because i removed the back panel and it is clearly visible. One thing I find annoying is that they removed the protective metallic paper used to protect and hold the SDHC in place. Is there a way to use an alternative to this protective paper? I have also noticed the phone does have some on board memory ( 11MB) to be able to run. However there is no place for anything, messages, contacts, even for running applications such as IE! I'm guessing it is some kind of emergency memory? Anyways, my worry is that i feel that metallic strip is somewhat important so I would like to know how to replace it? Your help is very much appreciated!!!
cabe0018 said:
Yes I am sure they put in an SD card because i removed the back panel and it is clearly visible. One thing I find annoying is that they removed the protective metallic paper used to protect and hold the SDHC in place. Is there a way to use an alternative to this protective paper? I have also noticed the phone does have some on board memory ( 11MB) to be able to run. However there is no place for anything, messages, contacts, even for running applications such as IE! I'm guessing it is some kind of emergency memory? Anyways, my worry is that i feel that metallic strip is somewhat important so I would like to know how to replace it? Your help is very much appreciated!!!
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Glad I can be of help!
It sounds like it's not recognizing the SD card. Can you get the phone running and goto settings, about phone and check to see what it says for storage capacity. It should show, total storage and available storage.
As far as the metalic tape... I know that it's there to help prevent the SD card from coming out of the tray. Because WP7 Mango security locks the card to prevent any data from being removed from the card. So say you removed the card without unlocking it first, there is no way to extract the data from the card or format it with another device. If the HD7 is turned on without the SD card installed the card will no longer work in the device either.
Not a 100% sure if the tape serves any other purpose though. You could cut a piece of duct tape to fit and secure it in place use the good kind like gorilla duct tape.
xdrc45 said:
Glad I can be of help!
It sounds like it's not recognizing the SD card. Can you get the phone running and goto settings, about phone and check to see what it says for storage capacity. It should show, total storage and available storage.
As far as the metalic tape... I know that it's there to help prevent the SD card from coming out of the tray. Because WP7 Mango security locks the card to prevent any data from being removed from the card. So say you removed the card without unlocking it first, there is no way to extract the data from the card or format it with another device. If the HD7 is turned on without the SD card installed the card will no longer work in the device either.
Not a 100% sure if the tape serves any other purpose though. You could cut a piece of duct tape to fit and secure it in place use the good kind like gorilla duct tape.
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I have successfully inserted a 32Gb SanDisk SDHC Class 4 in my phone just a few hours ago. I performed a hard reset as instructed. When I booted up, the HTC splash screen showed up and it froze. For roughly 5 minutes...I plucked out the battery and again performed a hard reset. This time the device loaded with an error saying: low storage space please free up some space from your device. I tapped 'ok' and all I had was a black screen, although i know the OS booted up because i could hear system sounds, the bottom buttons were responsive and the lcok screen was visible. However when I slide up, no icons are visible except the wifi icon, the battery icon and the sim icon.
I tried loading the bootloader and as far as storage goes it is only recognizing some sort of 64MB partition from an "sd sandisk". Could this be a faulty installation of the OS on the new card? was I supposed to allow the system to take its time to load the software onto the new SD card? I am also unable to obtain the bootloader version etc that would be required to flash an RUU. Help would be appreciated!
cabe0018 said:
I have successfully inserted a 32Gb SanDisk SDHC Class 4 in my phone just a few hours ago. I performed a hard reset as instructed. When I booted up, the HTC splash screen showed up and it froze. For roughly 5 minutes...I plucked out the battery and again performed a hard reset. This time the device loaded with an error saying: low storage space please free up some space from your device. I tapped 'ok' and all I had was a black screen, although i know the OS booted up because i could hear system sounds, the bottom buttons were responsive and the lcok screen was visible. However when I slide up, no icons are visible except the wifi icon, the battery icon and the sim icon.
I tried loading the bootloader and as far as storage goes it is only recognizing some sort of 64MB partition from an "sd sandisk". Could this be a faulty installation of the OS on the new card? was I supposed to allow the system to take its time to load the software onto the new SD card? I am also unable to obtain the bootloader version etc that would be required to flash an RUU. Help would be appreciated!
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That's strange... The HD7 has an internal (primary) seperate memory for the OS, the SD card is a secondary memory for the device. Technically it's a non removable storage. So once inserted, you hard reset the device and the SD card is formatted and then it becomes a part of the device and it's integrated into the file system.
If you boot into bootloader mode (device off, hold down the volume down button and power the device back on, while continuing to hold down the volume down button) what's all the information on the bootloader screen? I'm wondering if it's bricked. Can you also get into USB host mode? Device off, hold down the volume down button and the camera button and then power back on.
xdrc45 said:
That's strange... The HD7 has an internal (primary) seperate memory for the OS, the SD card is a secondary memory for the device. Technically it's a non removable storage. So once inserted, you hard reset the device and the SD card is formatted and then it becomes a part of the device and it's integrated into the file system.
If you boot into bootloader mode (device off, hold down the volume down button and power the device back on, while continuing to hold down the volume down button) what's all the information on the bootloader screen? I'm wondering if it's bricked. Can you also get into USB host mode? Device off, hold down the volume down button and the camera button and then power back on.
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The device was not bricked. I inserted another SDHC card I had used for an old MP4. It was an 8GB TEAM SDHC class 2. The device booted up the OS on this card after a formatting and everything worked better than previously. However some restats were still happening. I tried loading the bootloader in an attempt to flash a custom ROM for the device but no USB text was seen on screen although Zune was recognizing the device perfectly. I decided to leave the device as is. Yesterday, I migrated to my grandma's for a week and I have a room where reception is great always full and no interruptions. A curious fact was that the phone did not restart once no matter how much I used it... and I did use it extensively downloading apps for the first 3 hours, constantly chatting on facebook, emails HTC hub and also voice recognition for messaging and searches. It was working 100% great. When I descended down the stairs (my room is on the first floor) and went to the kitchen I recieved a call from my girlfriend. I picked it up and reception was pretty bad, so I told her to message me instead. As I cut I realized the reception bar was zero. After a couple of minutes, the phone restarted for the first time since my stay at grandma's. I came to the inevitable conclusion that the mobile restarts everytime the reception is bad. This conclusion was backed up by working fine in my room and restarting every time I went to a low reception room. It hit me then that my house does have pretty bad reception where I reside most of the times which causes all those restarts. I am almost sure this is the cause of the restarting. However I am not sure what it infers... Regardless I am sending the phone back in exchange for a new one. However I do wish to know if anyone encountered the same problem, what they did to tackle it (besides running around like a madman to find reception), what causes this and if it is a model defect or a rare case. Thank you for your help!
cabe0018 said:
The device was not bricked. I inserted another SDHC card I had used for an old MP4. It was an 8GB TEAM SDHC class 2. The device booted up the OS on this card after a formatting and everything worked better than previously. However some restats were still happening. I tried loading the bootloader in an attempt to flash a custom ROM for the device but no USB text was seen on screen although Zune was recognizing the device perfectly. I decided to leave the device as is. Yesterday, I migrated to my grandma's for a week and I have a room where reception is great always full and no interruptions. A curious fact was that the phone did not restart once no matter how much I used it... and I did use it extensively downloading apps for the first 3 hours, constantly chatting on facebook, emails HTC hub and also voice recognition for messaging and searches. It was working 100% great. When I descended down the stairs (my room is on the first floor) and went to the kitchen I recieved a call from my girlfriend. I picked it up and reception was pretty bad, so I told her to message me instead. As I cut I realized the reception bar was zero. After a couple of minutes, the phone restarted for the first time since my stay at grandma's. I came to the inevitable conclusion that the mobile restarts everytime the reception is bad. This conclusion was backed up by working fine in my room and restarting every time I went to a low reception room. It hit me then that my house does have pretty bad reception where I reside most of the times which causes all those restarts. I am almost sure this is the cause of the restarting. However I am not sure what it infers... Regardless I am sending the phone back in exchange for a new one. However I do wish to know if anyone encountered the same problem, what they did to tackle it (besides running around like a madman to find reception), what causes this and if it is a model defect or a rare case. Thank you for your help!
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Yeah... If you can exchange it for another one I would!
If in bootloader mode the white section will display "serial" while not plugged in and "USB" while plugged in, if neither of these are present then the device is half/small bricked for sure, even if it's recognized by Zune. That can be fixed with the goldcard/ Y cable method too.
I have heard of some people having issues with restarts when on their network and while roaming outside of their network. One thing you can try is flashing different radio versions until you find one that gives the best signal. Another thing could be the OS build version and firmware version that your device is running on, it may need to be updated.
xdrc45 said:
Yeah... If you can exchange it for another one I would!
If in bootloader mode the white section will display "serial" while not plugged in and "USB" while plugged in, if neither of these are present then the device is half/small bricked for sure, even if it's recognized by Zune. That can be fixed with the goldcard/ Y cable method too.
I have heard of some people having issues with restarts when on their network and while roaming outside of their network. One thing you can try is flashing different radio versions until you find one that gives the best signal. Another thing could be the OS build version and firmware version that your device is running on, it may need to be updated.
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While I wish to thank you for your constant support and very useful suggestions on the matter, xdrc45, I am going to send the phone back very soon. Chances are I will recieve a replacement in two weeks time. Aside from this, I am sure the seller at HK will send me a phone with similar issues (Cross-fingers he won't), But since I am able to handle some very basic technical issues such as these, and the phone is at a good price (160EUR) I do not wish to refund. I'd much rather tinker with it a little here and there to customize it to my liking, ensure maximum potential of the phone and prevent issues. So my question is this: What steps should I take the minute the phone arrives (assuming they send me an identical copy of the phone they provided)? Do I need to supply myself with any hardware or software to be able to install the phone to function as though I bought it officially from HTC?
In reply to your suggestion on the bootloader: yes, the white section was always empty no matter what...so I'm guessing the phone was slowly dying away anyways. I will definately look further into the goldcard/ y cable.
Thanks!
cabe0018 said:
While I wish to thank you for your constant support and very useful suggestions on the matter, xdrc45, I am going to send the phone back very soon. Chances are I will recieve a replacement in two weeks time. Aside from this, I am sure the seller at HK will send me a phone with similar issues (Cross-fingers he won't), But since I am able to handle some very basic technical issues such as these, and the phone is at a good price (160EUR) I do not wish to refund. I'd much rather tinker with it a little here and there to customize it to my liking, ensure maximum potential of the phone and prevent issues. So my question is this: What steps should I take the minute the phone arrives (assuming they send me an identical copy of the phone they provided)? Do I need to supply myself with any hardware or software to be able to install the phone to function as though I bought it officially from HTC?
In reply to your suggestion on the bootloader: yes, the white section was always empty no matter what...so I'm guessing the phone was slowly dying away anyways. I will definately look further into the goldcard/ y cable.
Thanks!
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I think that's a good choice and hopefully the next one won't have the same problems for you!
The best thing to do when you get the new one is boot into bootloader mode and check the information, if you want post back all the info from the BL screen or provide a screen shot of it. Also go into settings, about phone, more info and post back all the information from there too. That way we can make sure everything is up to par on the device and functioning like it should and make sure it's not bricked and if it is we'll get it taken care of for you!

My device won't hard reset

I have had problems in the last few weeks with my micro sd. I posted in 'android general' about this, I want to switch back to the normal partitions. In the past, on XDA I had found a 'fix' that would switch the mounting of microsd and local mass storage, making the microsd the main partition (to the eye of the device, the microsd would become the internal memory, and apps would be installed there automatically).
Anyway, never installed any rom on my phone, only the root. I tried a hard reset today....I went to the configuration (language and account setup) now the phone shows a black screen, you can see (and interact with) only the status bar. A popup telling me about an update came up, I did the update (67 MB), reboot, and then the message: couldn't update the device, try connect to Kies.
Screen still black with only the notification bar (that works, wifi gps buttons etc,). I could go into the options, and see that the microsd is still seen as main memory (switched).
Basically I have two questions:
- why didn't the hard reset work?
- how do I switch microsd and internal memory? I tried looking for the file but I can't remember which one I did edit
And third:
- how do I get out of this ? the only reason why I did the hard reset (microsd not working, switching microsd-internal memory) is still there, so how to say, I in an even worse situation now.
Ok, switched off, removed the microsd. Now it won't boot. Stays stuck on 'SAMSUNG' logo glowing. I guess it doesn't find the files he put on the microsd. But anyway, I thought the stock rom for the hard reset was always stored in the (real) internal memory (2GB big), not the 12GB one (that he can't find because it's called as a microsd partition now...)
this looks like a problem.
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[Q] SD Card random deletion issues.

So I took the windows phone plunge and purchased the Lumia 1520 Friday when they became available. Finally had a phone available I wanted with a memory card slot, which was a must have, and top end hardware, which was also pretty important.
I'm running into the same problems that most everyone else who changes from Android has with things being different, and not being available...but nothing major.
I have, however run into 2 pretty big things that may have me turning this phone in before the 30 days I have to do so are up, but I wanted to ask if anyone else is having these problems to determine whether it's just my phone, or a known issue.
I've added a Sandisk 64G SD card to the phone to store data, music, videos and pictures. Turns out it's kinda useless for data because of the lack of a file explorer ap, and the purposeful design to prevent such a thing. Ok...I can cope with that...that's what a USB key is for.
However...what I'm finding is that the pictures/videos/music I am putting on the SD card are being randomly deleted after I put them on the card. I've tried formatting the card using the phone, even going so far as to do a hard reset of the phone and bringing it up with the SD in it, and then formatting it immediately. It still randomly deletes files, mostly photos. I store a few thousand photos of family etc, and some of them are not things I am comfortable storing in skydrive...so that's not really an option. I've tried putting them directly into the folders using Windows Explorer on windows 8, and using Windows Phone Ap for Deskto and syncing through that interface. In both instances, everyting I put on the phone makes it there, and is viewable on the phone...until it randomly disappears. And it's not all of the files, but just most of them...particularly when the phone reboots.
In addition, I've had 3 or 4 times where the phone has randomly shut itself off.
So the question then, is this something that's a known thing with windows phone 8, or is this likely just a bug with the 1520, or perhaps just my phone in particular?
Aielman said:
So I took the windows phone plunge and purchased the Lumia 1520 Friday when they became available. Finally had a phone available I wanted with a memory card slot, which was a must have, and top end hardware, which was also pretty important.
I'm running into the same problems that most everyone else who changes from Android has with things being different, and not being available...but nothing major.
I have, however run into 2 pretty big things that may have me turning this phone in before the 30 days I have to do so are up, but I wanted to ask if anyone else is having these problems to determine whether it's just my phone, or a known issue.
I've added a Sandisk 64G SD card to the phone to store data, music, videos and pictures. Turns out it's kinda useless for data because of the lack of a file explorer ap, and the purposeful design to prevent such a thing. Ok...I can cope with that...that's what a USB key is for.
However...what I'm finding is that the pictures/videos/music I am putting on the SD card are being randomly deleted after I put them on the card. I've tried formatting the card using the phone, even going so far as to do a hard reset of the phone and bringing it up with the SD in it, and then formatting it immediately. It still randomly deletes files, mostly photos. I store a few thousand photos of family etc, and some of them are not things I am comfortable storing in skydrive...so that's not really an option. I've tried putting them directly into the folders using Windows Explorer on windows 8, and using Windows Phone Ap for Deskto and syncing through that interface. In both instances, everyting I put on the phone makes it there, and is viewable on the phone...until it randomly disappears. And it's not all of the files, but just most of them...particularly when the phone reboots.
In addition, I've had 3 or 4 times where the phone has randomly shut itself off.
So the question then, is this something that's a known thing with windows phone 8, or is this likely just a bug with the 1520, or perhaps just my phone in particular?
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Sounds like an incompatible SD Card issue to me, despite the phone being advertised as being capable to be upgradable to 64GB, some SD Cards may not work and cause major issues like phone rebooting, files being deleted and other annoying issues. You can see if this is the case by simply removing the SD card and barrow a 32GB SD Card and see if you still experience these issues. You can also try leaving the SD Card out completely and see if the phone reboots itself during a test period without the SD Card.
I know this might put you off of continuing to use Windows Phone products (Android had never these SD Card issues on high end phones so long I can remember), but once you go Nokia Black (= firmware update of Nokia for WP8 phones), you'll never turn back, meaning there is more to WP then the eye can see (much smoother and more stable than lagdroid , although I myself find android 4.4 is improving, WP has the same smoothness on midbudget phones than Android high end phones even with cyanogenmod installed).
bruce142 said:
Sounds like an incompatible SD Card issue to me, despite the phone being advertised as being capable to be upgradable to 64GB, some SD Cards may not work and cause major issues like phone rebooting, files being deleted and other annoying issues. You can see if this is the case by simply removing the SD card and barrow a 32GB SD Card and see if you still experience these issues. You can also try leaving the SD Card out completely and see if the phone reboots itself during a test period without the SD Card.
I know this might put you off of continuing to use Windows Phone products (Android had never these SD Card issues on high end phones so long I can remember), but once you go Nokia Black (= firmware update of Nokia for WP8 phones), you'll never turn back, meaning there is more to WP then the eye can see (much smoother and more stable than lagdroid , although I myself find android 4.4 is improving, WP has the same smoothness on midbudget phones than Android high end phones even with cyanogenmod installed).
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The only real issue I've had is the storage disappearing. The shutdown thing, and it's a shutdown, not a reboot, is annoying but wont' be a deal breaker.
I have a 32G SD I'll try and see if I have the same data retention issues. If I do, this phone is either going to be replaced with a new one, or I'm getting a note 3, depending on whatever anyone else has to say about this issue.
Thanks for the reply
*edit* - Changed the phone out yesterday. Seems to be holding photos and songs on the SD card, even through reboots. My journey to the dark side may be complete /nod

SD Card formatted as internal storage randomly unusable on cm13

I love marshmallow's adoptable storage feature, allowing me to install more apps. This feature worked beautifully for about a month and a half. However, I shut down the device, plugged it in to charge, went to sleep, and the next morning, the apps that were moved to the sd card were not available anymore. They were all greyed out on my launcher(Nova). I moved about 4 gigs worth of mostly games. Fortunately, most of them had cloud storage, but some favorite games didnt. This isn't that big of a problem, but I'd like to try to fix it. So, I went here for help.
At first, I thought the class 10 SanDisk 16gb sd had just gotten bumped out of the slot where the connections happen, so I opened the back cover and removed and inserted the sd card. The notification that prompted me to put the sd back in went away for a few seconds, but then came back. I repeated the process of removing and inserting the sd a few times, but still no moved apps were available. I put the sd into an adapter, then into my laptop, and it showed on file explorer. So the sd card could still be recognized, but maybe unusable.
I dont know what happened, one day it was working, the next day it wasn't. I know i formatted it as internal and portable storage a few times, so maybe that wore it out. I'm running cm13
Hello,
On my phone I used the micro SD card normally as external storage. On day I plugged in my headphones and there was no music. I though that the micro SD card must have come out. However, reinserted it it didn't work. I wouldn't open on computer either. While I don't have a solution, I am pretty sure I also had the same problem.
Once I was taking pictures with my phone when it crashed and rebooted. Some hours before the crash I uninstalled some apps and installed some others (but never rebooted the phone). After the phone started again after the crash, all the pictures and files were gone, the uninstalled apps were there as if I've never uninstalled them and the new installed ones dissapeared.
TheSaffronArmy said:
Hello,
On my phone I used the micro SD card normally as external storage. On day I plugged in my headphones and there was no music. I though that the micro SD card must have come out. However, reinserted it it didn't work. I wouldn't open on computer either. While I don't have a solution, I am pretty sure I also had the same problem.
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how long have you used your sd card? i'm sure that the more you use a micro sd card, the more it will wear out and become unuseable/corrupted. That has happened to me before, where the sd card just stopped working.
KyleSaki714 said:
how long have you used your sd card? i'm sure that the more you use a micro sd card, the more it will wear out and become unuseable/corrupted. That has happened to me before, where the sd card just stopped working.
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I have used it for about 1 year. So it may be that but, it has never occurred before.
Same problem here, you can read it here. While I am writing hopefully my files from Titanium Backup are transfered to my laptop. It got worse and worse, in my opinion the sd-card has reached it's end of life because of it's heavy usage. Error occured the first time after the phone got really hot recording gpx tracks. Bye bye sd-card
Another opinion is that warranty is over after two years, so the phone can quit it's duty now - obsolescense plans
Androphilius said:
Same problem here, you can read it here. While I am writing hopefully my files from Titanium Backup are transfered to my laptop. It got worse and worse, in my opinion the sd-card has reached it's end of life because of it's heavy usage. Error occured the first time after the phone got really hot recording gpx tracks. Bye bye sd-card
Another opinion is that warranty is over after two years, so the phone can quit it's duty now - obsolescense plans
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yeah, i'm starting to think my micro sd just bailed from wear like that too, but i got to use mine for just over 3 months. i ejected the sd and put it into my computer, and interestingly enough, on my computer it reads 16 megabytes. i was like WAAT that cant be, i formatted it, put it back in my phone as portable, and it read as the normal 14gb. i'm starting to think my sd as internal is the cause of my random reboots. im even running the lastest cm13 update too...
i guess ill try and use my sd as just portable storage from now on, and see if i get any random reboots..
I switched to TurboROM which is using the sd-card as a portable media device, so no more encryption, heavy usage and complete data loss if you do not get your encryption key with root permission.
System space left after complete recovery of my apps with TB is quite nice - but you do not have the possibility to use App2SD (correct me if I am wrong).
So the only way to save internal system space is to move pictures, movies and heavy openstreetmap cards to external.

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