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Hi all first and mostly I want to apologise for not giving you a ROM, but due to recent activities here I decide to stop my work here and stop making ROMS for now.
For People who dont know already I was asked to cook for X1 and was donated a device which XMOO sent to me.
I also was working on HD AND WAS CURRENTLY TIED UP IN making a ROM FOR IT. I was also working on X1 ROM, but didnt have time between both devices and I stopped for awhile.
Since my last HD ROM ALot of stuff , issues, etc arise here on XDA and I was the main attraction, long story short ,
I given up cooking at the moment and I feel bad not making a rom for u guys, The rom I have still needs work doing and I cant support it if I release it as I have a lot of personal stuff I need taking care of.
I contacted XMOO about sending the device to him so you Guys can decide what to do with it or give it to another CHEF, ETC,
Once again my sincere apology especially for all those who believe in me and all my supporters but whats happened here has really put me off.
If there are any better advise on how to donate the device back to the community just let me know.
Thanks Dutty.
Sorry to see you go Dutty, best of luck with you and your family!
On a selfish note though, any chance you can release what you already have for the X1? Would love to try it, bugs and all, knowing that you wont be supporting it.
sorry to hear about this. this is a real loss to the community. hope you change you mind soon
any chance of convincing you to to realease your unfinished rom at least the cooks over hee can build on top of it.
oops....just noticed tjax reply
Like many others I was looking forward in trying your ROM for the X1.
With an ackward eye did I follow the stuff going on in the Blackstone forum and respect your decision to leave the forum, although it breaks my heart a bit.
Best of luck to you and your family!
Maybe we'll see you in the future....
If you could release the kitchen /sources to the X1 community, then maybe some other enterprising chef could pick up where you left off. I'm interested in learning the process behind creating a ROM but I'll be honest and say I wouldn't know where to start, even after reading some guides here on XDA-Dev.
Thanks for at least considering making a community ROM, and good luck with what you go on to do Dutty.
Goodluck to you and hopes everything turns out for the better. I know everyone was looking forward for your ROM here, and some just couldnt wait and start saying things they do not mean. All in all thanks for your effort...my suggestion regarding the X1 KEEP it until maybe one day you can bless us with your work.
The device should be sold and everyone who donated should get their money returned.
Dutty has quit. Bugger.... Might get an iphone? Gotta say, that Palm Pre looks pretty cool?
Wait for the Touch Pro 2 Clove is taking pre orders
Its a sad day and I hope to see Dutty back in XDA asap, but **** happens...
Maybe XMOO should PM everyone who donated for this, we could see together over PM's if there is someone else who we would think would benefit the X1 community so much, that we want donate the device to.
If we are talking abotu selling MAYBE I could be interested, but just maybe at this point... I would rather see it go to good use...
I was one of the donators and my suggestion is to sell the phone and donate the money to xda.
Well Im not 100% behind that... I have donated to XDA with my two usernames and will donate in the future, but this was meant to other use...
Wasn't Xmoo after a spare to do some Android work, maybe it could be used for that
Been following your work Dutty eventhough i own a Raphael.. well sad to see all the hecticness that were around. Well the best thing you could to is to take care of personal life first... xda forum will allways be here... good luck bro.. keep an eye on devs here so they don't go on wrong paths .. they might need your knowledge some times.. well anyway take care of your self first
Well Dutty all are behind you on this... about the X1 let Xmoo decide.
but i as all cooks here are very interested in your blackstone rom 1.9 and if that can be ported to X1, please please please contact me or any good chef out there and make a final contribute
that would be like, well lets call it religous
hey Dutty!
Im really sorry to hear that you're leaving. A sad day for the xda community!
I just wish you all the best and hope you'll return one day or if you're moving somewhere else let us know!
Thanks for your great roms!
So much has been said on the whole "Dutty Dilemma" (Someone should write a book about it! )
My first and last comment on it: Too bad it happened, Dutty has been wronged.
On the device, I'm not a donator, but I'd say let him keep it after all the crap.
If people strongly feel it must be sold, I'm a potential buyer.
Still hoping for Dutty to change his mind and put the X1 he got to use though.
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Wasn't Xmoo after a spare to do some Android work, maybe it could be used for that
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im somewhat sure he needed one for siassambly reasons. to check hardware etc.
id rather have android on my hpone anyway but since i donated nothing ... let the donaters decide
@dutty
well to sad, ive never seen any of your roms since this is my first winmopho. but still, GL and have fun out there
The sad thing about it is that it wasn't the people on the xperia thread that were giving him so much hell. The people that donated the device to Dutty supported him the whole way. I would say at the least the people who donated the funds to get the device should get his beta rom.
Thats my last two cents
A few good, KNOWLEDGEABLE, patient, info-giving, members to keep an eye over the Q&A section here in G1.
If you would like to be part of this team, please leave a post and we, mods, will get back to you.
We have a spanking new Q&A section lets keep it clean and organized.
PLEASE
Id love to help. Im on here all the time anyways messing with stuff.
I'll help out ^_^ Been a mod/admin of various forums if that helps and its nice to be part of a more developer type forum than just tech.
I'll be dropping in now and then to check and help out where I can. No problem.
im new to xda, but have and will be spending great amounts in these forums. I am a very patient person and also have a good knowledge with android to help users with their Questions!
Sure, Love to help =) Good at support hehe ^^
You know I'm always willing to help mikey
i would love to help moderate this part of the forum
always active member.
I'm almost always on
Let me know if I can be of service.
Mikey, I would love to help!
"I live to serve all believers."
Not as many replies as I expected. I haven't posted a lot here, but I've been using XDA to tinker with my G1 from the day I bought it. I've done customer service or tech support for many years and have plenty of patience to deal with all sorts of users. I think I've gotten to know the community enough that even if I don't have the answer, I know where to start looking.
I'm pretty active and have learned a lot, so I'd be glad to help out.
im still learning about everything on the g1 but im willing to help and pass what i know
Would love to be of some help! I am an Admin on another android site too! I could help you out alot!
I'd like in!
I like this forum because answers are always nice and clear even though the questions are a bit vague.
willing to lend a hand if its wanted...
don't claim to know it all but have enjoyed my time here at xda. if i can help keep things squeaky clean let me know.
I can throw in my two cents on subjects I know about. I spend atleast a half hour on here everyday or more.
I don't mind helping if it will keep people from bashing noobs.
I would love to help. I consider myself an experienced user, started developing a bit but I've had work to keep up with so I can't give to the community with developing anything.
I really want to give back to the community, so I hope my knowledge can be of good use.
Hey guys check this out. Social networking site for gadgets and phones we worked for years is now live. I'd love to hear any feedback so we can improve our site to give you a fun and better experience. Your feedback is very much appreciated either if it is positive or negative.
www.taketake.com
What do you guys think of the site?
Add a forum section for people who need help tips or have problems with their gadgets.. ohh wait, that's what xda is for also, add it to taptalk, I'll try it then
Another thing 'unlocking cool badges after gaining point'- for motivation to get the best one, to make it competetive? Don't think that older people would be intrested, and I am only 16. But you know, everyone has their own 2 pence to add there are more opinions out there.
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Add a forum section for people who need help tips or have problems with their gadgets.. ohh wait, that's what xda is for also, add it to taptalk, I'll try it then
Another thing 'unlocking cool badges after gaining point'- for motivation to get the best one, to make it competetive? Don't think that older people would be intrested, and I am only 16. But you know, everyone has their own 2 pence to add there are more opinions out there.
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDApp. Pure Madness.
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Thank you for your feedback and we really appreciate it. This is a big help for us to improve our site. We'll keep you posted once we officially launch the site.
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Hey guys check this out. Social networking site for gadgets and phones we worked for years is now live. I'd love to hear any feedback so we can improve our site to give you a fun and better experience. Your feedback is very much appreciated either if it is positive or negative.
www.taketake.com
What do you guys think of the site?
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Sweet site desing man! Looks great! Honestly! I think I'll check it out a bit more now...
Edit: Ok I've had a good look around so I'm ready to offer feedback firstly, the site design if clean and simple! Great! Keep that UI consistent across the whole site and it will be a winner. I'm finding Facebook too cluttered, and this is simple and elegant!
This will really work well as a concept if it takes off, so you need as many users as possible. I'll help out by tipping some of those sites. Other readers here on XDA, if you like the idea, I suggest you do the same This could be really handy when buying new gadgets, and maybe even save all these experience threads on XDA.
It needs re organization and more information but congrats on your efforts
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Sweet site desing man! Looks great! Honestly! I think I'll check it out a bit more now...
Edit: Ok I've had a good look around so I'm ready to offer feedback firstly, the site design if clean and simple! Great! Keep that UI consistent across the whole site and it will be a winner. I'm finding Facebook too cluttered, and this is simple and elegant!
This will really work well as a concept if it takes off, so you need as many users as possible. I'll help out by tipping some of those sites. Other readers here on XDA, if you like the idea, I suggest you do the same This could be really handy when buying new gadgets, and maybe even save all these experience threads on XDA.
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Thanks for the feedback! We did everything to make the UI clean and simple so users will not be confused. Comparing us to Facebook is an honor since Facebook is very established and almost all people around the globe is using it.
Technology is a big trend all over the web. People now a days choose to shop their gadgets online, they can share their experience and reviews through our site.
Thanks for helping us out in spreading the word to promote our site. We really appreciate it. I love the idea and will do the same as you suggested
We'll keep you posted for any development we have based on the feedbacks we are getting. Looking forward on meeting you our site.
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It needs re organization and more information but congrats on your efforts
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Thank you and we really appreciate it. Can you elaborate on the re-organization so we can improve the site. Once the site is on beta you can view more information but for the meantime we are getting feedbacks to improve before we officially launch it. We also have a video you can watch for the overview of the site. We'll keep you posted once the site is on beta.
Hi all,
This is my first post, although I have been following the group for a long time. My post is motivated by the observation that a massive imbalance exists, particularily in the Legend development community.
There is a huge mass of non-contributing users badgering a small group of hard-working developers, whilst free-loading off the many hours they spend trying to improve the Legend for all of us. (BTW - I'm not pointing any fingers that don't equally apply to myself!) The value of the hours they are putting in is huge, and the return amounts only to the occational humble click of a thanks button.
I have written to the XDA owners and proposed that they implement a system whereby users can donate to a specific thread, and that each month the proceeds of thoses donations are distributed to posters according to the distribution of new "thanks" clicks to them. Unfortunately I have not heard anything in reply, so in the meantime I propose that we start here in the Legend development forum in a less systematic way.
For example; all of us eagerly following ogo2's thread on his Alpha rom should support how we can. We have all heard BlaYO's hesitance to get too involved in that he needs another Legend to do development work on, as he can't render his own out of service for days on end. Absolutely fair point. I would suggest that all active developers in here create a donation account somewhere so that the rest of us ungrateful, free-loading scavengers (again, myself included, and meant in the most positive way! ) can contribute.
Let's get BlaYO a second development Legend, or ogo2 some resources on Linux compilation etc. It's the least we can do, even if we are just selfishly offering to help them, help us
It would not take much, and I am quite certain that anyone who can afford a Legend can also afford to donate $10-20 now and then. What a small price to pay for all the hours that our devs spend working to bring all of us the latest and greatest. Let's give something back!
There were a bunch of users that actually donated to my PayPal account (a few months ago I didn't believe this could happen by the way).
I'd personally object to such a system for various reasons, the main one being complication of something which is a pretty simple in fact: You like the work of someone, you donate (or buy).
Moreover, there are a few CM developers whose work on their device (which happens to use an msm7227 chipset) directly influences the Legend too and therefore my work as well. They are not active in the Legend forum though.
So what I basically want to say: There's a lot of work going on – not hours but weeks – which you might never see because these almost unmoderated boards here are full of you-name-it and every CM developer I know pretty much dislikes XDA for that very reason.
You don't see us (40+ developers) working, but that doesn't mean we aren't.
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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Is this meaning that the new CM7s will have the new kernel?
By the way, what was modified in the kernel source so the tiwlan didn't compile normaly?
I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...
There you go
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I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...
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Peace be with you
Hmmm... OK, I get that my proposal could have some shortcomings, however the intent is good. It's great to hear that users donated to your Paypal, Ali Ba, perhaps other devs should just publish Paypal details too, and users can direct donations to where they feel they are most deserved?
It is not meant to be fair compensation for the numerous hours spent, as the basic principles of community development should still be the driving force. It could, however, be a token of appreciation from those unable to contribute in any other way.
I can't help but feel that there would be more devs involved with more and faster progress as a consequence, if only there was a little reward in there too. Surely that would be in everybodies interest.
In any event, I offer my thanks to all the devs here, and I would be happy to back that up with a contribution, should you decide to go that way
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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I was working on getting wl12xx driver working with 2.6.32 kernel but I didn't succeed yet. Is there a reason not to switch to wl12xx driver instead? It also provides soft AP support int the same driver.
Regarding donations, it would be nice if I could donate you via Google checkout.
Thanks.
Yea leave Blay0 alone man, He's getting enough hassle on the Alpha thread as it is! people say they'd like to help then just request more things like a2sd,overclocked kernel etc.If you know anything about linux try helping by trying to build drivers for the last 2 bits (i.e Bluetooth,wifi)
I must say also that there were individuals who offered me donations which I respectfully refused and instead apoint those guys to their nearest charity. I'm not doing this for money (I make money doing other things) I'm just doing it coz I like to know how things work and I always like to learn new things. So if I become bored those donations definitely won't convince me to keep on doing it.
Don't you guys ever think that I'm doing all this for you! Noooope! I'm doing it for me and my own satisfaction. Yes, that's right I'm actualy a selfish, egoistic basterd but in a process of achieving my own goals (which are also inspired by some of your suggestions) I'm really happy if someone else learn something from me. They are few but it doesn't matter... they will definitelly pass on their knowledge and that's important coz I believe knowledge is universal and must be available to anyone willing to accept it and you cannot charge for that.
Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year and then it will get its successors and its community will become even smaller and eventually it will be disbanded and some of us will find new projects, learnig new thing and again passing on all the gained knowledge.
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Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year.
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A whole year is an optimistic approach
The main problem in the development of the HTC Legend is the device itself. It's a rare phone, and pretty much a very small group of people is using it. That also makes the group of talented developers thinner. Look at the Hero or SGS forums topic/post count. Sure - most of them are retarded, and previously answered questions, but still folks in the dev section are coding some crazy and amazing stuff. That's because those devices where popular and successful. The HTC Legend was ment to be the successor of the HTC Hero, but this ain't gonna happen. Nobody will remember this phone in a year or two. That's of course HTCs fault, not ours.
Also mentioning all the request, demands and stupid questions in the dev forum - this forum is not that bad
Go check the Nexus S section. For example the NexusSense topic (my girlfriend got a Nexus so I'm somewhat interested). Now that's pure fukcin massacre out there
Greets!
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Agreed, I thought Legend was a kickass sucessor, but very few people actually bought it...I've deserted to Desire S, but I think that's a very similar case so far anyways...
But back on topic: The thing is, everyone has an interest in what he's doing and unless he has a gain from that work he wouldn't be doing it But the idea of donating is noble ofcourse
Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work
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Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work
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Amen! (10char )
Agree with the great Dr!
PLUS This is a General thread so should be in the general section.....Threads should go into the right forums for a start! Hate to think how many threads there are in the wrong place :/
I've read over the last few days multiple posts coming from more than one person that go like ~"I know what you're taking about, I'm a developer too", "dude I'm not a noob I'm a developer too", "I'm better than you, I can develop my custom ROM", and so on.
Truth is...
You're probably not a developer.
Using dsixda's kitchen, UOT kitchen and winzip (and maybe apktools) does not make you a developer.
Following tutorials and copying/pasting smali code does not make you a developer.
You're an interested user, maybe even a themer, but don't be arrogant. Know the difference.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. It's great that everyone is willing to learn, and these methods are a good place to start. But I say again: you're not a developer.
Call yourself an interested user, a ROM cook, a learning newbie, a themer if you're good at that, but not a developer.
Obviously, the same applies to me.
/rant over
You may better specify the answer for
WHO THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY IS ?
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Well a developer includes in his work researching, designing, implementing, and testing software. A person who develops stand-alone software (that is more than just a simple program) and got involved with all phases of the development (design and code) is a software developer. On the other hand the one that only implements and does the copy paste of the code is called a programmer. I hope that i was specific and i made myself clear.
ok so we are not devs we know that so why make this thread?
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I've read over the last few days multiple posts coming from more than one person that go like ~"I know what you're taking about, I'm a developer too", "dude I'm not a noob I'm a developer too", "I'm better than you, I can develop my custom ROM", and so on.
Truth is...
You're probably not a developer.
Using dsixda's kitchen, UOT kitchen and winzip (and maybe apktools) does not make you a developer.
Following tutorials and copying/pasting smali code does not make you a developer.
You're an interested user, maybe even a themer, but don't be arrogant. Know the difference.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. It's great that everyone is willing to learn, and these methods are a good place to start. But I say again: you're not a developer.
Call yourself an interested user, a ROM cook, a learning newbie, a themer if you're good at that, but not a developer.
Obviously, the same applies to me.
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Well said!! I too am seeing too much negativity and rudeness towards people who come here to learn.
They are new so might not understand the rules, yet, but they are here to learn so we should help them not tell them they are worthless noobs and dont deserve your help.
We all learn here and thats what makes XDA a good place to hang out.
No one on this forum is better than anyone else sore may be more advanced along the learning curve.
Hello! I am Dom, I am an interested user wanting to learn more about android. I can cut and paste and follow tutorials but I am not a developer.
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ok so we are not devs we know that so why make this thread?
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If you know that, good. Feel free to disregard this rant.
Im new to xda and I posted in a few wrong sections. Would have thought its the end of the world or something. I didn't do it to make some of you mad. But being mean like some are turns people away from this great community. Treat people like you wanna be treated!!! that's all.
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Im new to xda and I posted in a few wrong sections. Would have thought its the end of the world or something. I didn't do it to make some of you mad. But being mean like some are turns people away from this great community. Treat people like you wanna be treated!!! that's all.
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agree with u.. i think they not supposed to threat other that way.. they should be helping not to be mean.. all of us do mistake.. nobody perfect..
peace no war..
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Im new to xda and I posted in a few wrong sections. Would have thought its the end of the world or something. I didn't do it to make some of you mad. But being mean like some are turns people away from this great community. Treat people like you wanna be treated!!! that's all.
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Could not have said it better myself, when I came here I was treated well, seems to be only last few weeks/months?? Still
Be nice.
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Im new to xda and I posted in a few wrong sections. Would have thought its the end of the world or something. I didn't do it to make some of you mad. But being mean like some are turns people away from this great community. Treat people like you wanna be treated!!! that's all.
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Nobody here has anything against anyone. Yeah some outbursts are uncalled for. But that is rare. Must be some personal problems or somebody having a bad day. Senior members, contributors,developers etc all have gone through that phase. So dont be offended by anybody's rude behaviour. It wasnt , is and will not be anything personal against anyone. If he ir she has been rude to you....they will realize that later on.
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Nobody here has anything against anyone. Yeah some outbursts are uncalled for. But that is rare. Must be some personal problems or somebody having a bad day. Senior members, contributors,developers etc all have gone through that phase. So dont be offended by anybody's rude behaviour. It wasnt , is and will not be anything personal against anyone. If he ir she has been rude to you....they will realize that later on.
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I know that everyone here is human (i guess?) and may have a bad day, but the image that xda passes is that she's not welcoming anyone. It already starts with that noob video that makes me to go through a deep depression. Not complaining about xda, but being nice will bring more people, and sooner or later, more developers, making this community bigger and bigger.
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I know that everyone here is human (i guess?) and may have a bad day, but the image that xda passes is that she's not welcoming anyone. It already starts with that noob video that makes me to go through a deep depression. Not complaining about xda, but being nice will bring more people, and sooner or later, more developers, making this community bigger and bigger.
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Lol....No u took it all wrong brother. That video isnt about showing anyone down....i have seen it...rather its an informative one accrding to me.....it clearly tells you that "Noob" isnt welcome. Ofcourse....it good to be warned before you start.....newbie is a good thing....people who do not want to read and ask all silly questions when all of it is already mentioned in the OP or a few pages back....are termed as "noobs". When i joined XDA i didnt even had this phone with me....for 6 months what i did was to read and clarified doubts....used google....It has almost every answer to your question...believe . I am still not a developer,nor a themer nor a rom cook....i dont get to spend much time on pc.....even then this googling and reading has given me enough knowledge to clarify my doubts myself. XDA is not a human or animal.....its all of us together....that video was sarcastic and informative. Such videos dont depress you...its the people here on XDA who are responsible for your depression and happiness. And as far as i know...here people are quiet helpful....just a few "anger bursts" but that i believe is quiet fine and normal... We have people from all cultures and countries. Diffrences do tend to occur.
Where do u suggest to start to learn if I know these "basic" things and I'd like to be a developer of this phone?
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Where do u suggest to start to learn if I know these "basic" things and I'd like to be a developer of this phone?
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This thread is still alive?
There are plenty of tutorials here and in the development section. You can also check the ROM cooking XDA forum.
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Lol....No u took it all wrong brother. That video isnt about showing anyone down....i have seen it...rather its an informative one accrding to me.....it clearly tells you that "Noob" isnt welcome. Ofcourse....it good to be warned before you start.....newbie is a good thing....people who do not want to read and ask all silly questions when all of it is already mentioned in the OP or a few pages back....are termed as "noobs". When i joined XDA i didnt even had this phone with me....for 6 months what i did was to read and clarified doubts....used google....It has almost every answer to your question...believe . I am still not a developer,nor a themer nor a rom cook....i dont get to spend much time on pc.....even then this googling and reading has given me enough knowledge to clarify my doubts myself. XDA is not a human or animal.....its all of us together....that video was sarcastic and informative. Such videos dont depress you...its the people here on XDA who are responsible for your depression and happiness. And as far as i know...here people are quiet helpful....just a few "anger bursts" but that i believe is quiet fine and normal... We have people from all cultures and countries. Diffrences do tend to occur.
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Yeah, man, you're right. Because of your answer, i've realized that being a noob is not a bad thing. Everyone started as a noob. Act like one is the problem. Starting a new thread to ask if we got jelly bean means asking for a "anger burst". Exactly like you said, by having a Galaxy Ace I/C/M, we got a lot of countries, like Brazil (from me) and countries from Asia. So, thanks for your answer, and sorry for your trouble.
GermainZ what you explained in the first post isn't developing, it's programming.
Everyone can be a developer, as long as they're helping the project, even if its only reporting glitches, bugs etc, they're still developers.
Programming on the other hand requires some experience but isn't that difficult as you think it might be, Just look at python lol, pretty much anyone who knows english can write in that.
I think you might need do a little research before posting such ****ty threads.
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GermainZ what you explained in the first post isn't developing, it's programming.
Everyone can be a developer, as long as they're helping the project, even if its only reporting glitches, bugs etc, they're still developers.
Programming on the other hand requires some experience but isn't that difficult as you think it might be, Just look at python lol, pretty much anyone who knows english can write in that.
I think you might need do a little research before posting such ****ty threads.
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This is out of context now.
If I remember correctly, when I posted this, there was some kind of flame war going on between ROM cooks/users (not sure what exactly it was about, or who was involved - it doesn't matter). This thread was mostly to show that while everybody appreciates the effort, they shouldn't act as if they are superior. You really should have been there to understand.
The whole OP is exaggerated for that (and FYI, since you mentioned it, I can code basic stuff in C++/Java, and more advanced stuff in Python, tho I prefer Python as it's neat, has one of the best documentations I've seen, and I can execute it directly from within my bash scripts without any extra steps).
Qnrx said:
GermainZ what you explained in the first post isn't developing, it's programming.
Everyone can be a developer, as long as they're helping the project, even if its only reporting glitches, bugs etc, they're still developers.
Programming on the other hand requires some experience but isn't that difficult as you think it might be, Just look at python lol, pretty much anyone who knows english can write in that.
I think you might need do a little research before posting such ****ty threads.
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He wasnt showing anyone down....but he was just clearing the air as there were quite a number of people who were calling themselves developers and were showing some superiority in their behaviour with newbies or even other members.....which in any point is not acceptable. Doesnt matter whether you are recognised developer,themer, elite member or moderator.....here every one is contributing in their own way and every one is in the same level.
Androidnow said:
He wasnt showing anyone down....but he was just clearing the air as there were quite a number of people who were calling themselves developers and were showing some superiority in their behaviour with newbies or even other members.....which in any point is not acceptable. Doesnt matter whether you are recognised developer,themer, elite member or moderator.....here every one is contributing in their own way and every one is in the same level.
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if thats the case then, thank you for clearing everything up.
Qnrx said:
if thats the case then, thank you for clearing everything up.
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And anything else you want to say to Germainz for that " Sh***y thread" comment above?