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Now that I heard you can put Honeycomb 3.0 on the Nook Color, I am thinking of getting it today at B&N.
However, I will be using the device mainly for watching movies and I love to convert movies. I will be converting 720p .mkv movies to .avi format with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate to get the best video quality.
My question is: Can it play .avi files with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate super smooth on Honeycomb?
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Now that I heard you can put Honeycomb 3.0 on the Nook Color, I am thinking of getting it today at B&N.
However, I will be using the device mainly for watching movies and I love to convert movies. I will be converting 720p .mkv movies to .avi format with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate to get the best video quality.
My question is: Can it play .avi files with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate super smooth on Honeycomb?
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Looking at the Honeycomb thread:
Doesn't work:
-Sound (sadly! Despite my efforts the last hours I didn't get it working properly yet)
-DSP e.g. no hardware video decoding
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So that would seem to be a significant barrier to your plan ;-)!
In the basic 2.1, the recommendation is for MP4 (H.264) at 1,100 kbps. I recently watched Inception at that setting and it was perfect for the Nook Color.
Check out this thread regarding Handbrake settings for the Nook Color: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894165
for any kind of hi-res content, you'll want to use hardware accelerated playback. Unfortunately, the chip in the nook only supports a certain video codec and resolution. h.264 basic profile and a max of 800x480. 1100 kbps looks pretty good.
Any other codec or higher resolution will rely on the software renderer, and it will be very choppy.
I created a nook color preset for handbrake you might find helpful. It will convert your 720p movies to the highest quality the nook supports.
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Check out this thread regarding Handbrake settings for the Nook Color: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894165
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You added the link to my thread while I was replying to this one.
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You added the link to my thread while I was replying to this one.
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Yes, I went back and looked up your thread since I successfully used your presets and wanted to say thanks. They worked great and the results made a long flight from Denver to Orlando very enjoyable !
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for any kind of hi-res content, you'll want to use hardware accelerated playback. Unfortunately, the chip in the nook only supports a certain video codec and resolution. h.264 basic profile and a max of 800x480. 1100 kbps looks pretty good.
Any other codec or higher resolution will rely on the software renderer, and it will be very choppy.
I created a nook color preset for handbrake you might find helpful. It will convert your 720p movies to the highest quality the nook supports.
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You guys just burst my bubble. If the max resolution that it can play is only 800x480, then I guess I will not be buying the Nook Color. Even my HD2 can play mpg4 file that is encoded in 800x480 with 2,000 kbps smooth as butter without problem. If the NC cannot play 1024x600 with 2,000 kbps, then what is the use?
I guess I will have to wait for the Xoom to come out.
800x480 looks great. The nook scales it up to 1024x600, and the pixel density is high enough that you see no pixels. It looks very smooth.
You do realize that the hd2 has a 1ghz snapdragon processor. While we only have an 800mhz stock that can be overclocked to something equivalent. Why would you expect it to do better than the hd2? I would say they would be the same. But if the difference is worth the extra $350 premium then go for it. 854x480 at 1100kbps looks amazing on the nook.
The biggest dissapointment with my Nook is the video playback. Its not horrendous on eclair, but I have absolutely no luck with it on these froyo builds. Probably going to go back to 2.1 soon just so I can at least view some videos again.
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The biggest dissapointment with my Nook is the video playback. Its not horrendous on eclair, but I have absolutely no luck with it on these froyo builds. Probably going to go back to 2.1 soon just so I can at least view some videos again.
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There's no hardware video decoding on Froyo yet.
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You do realize that the hd2 has a 1ghz snapdragon processor. While we only have an 800mhz stock that can be overclocked to something equivalent. Why would you expect it to do better than the hd2? I would say they would be the same. But if the difference is worth the extra $350 premium then go for it. 854x480 at 1100kbps looks amazing on the nook.
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I never thought of owning the Nook Color until I heard about being able to put Honeycomb on it. I prematurely got excited and thought that it can do good video playback since my HD2 is excellent at playing 800x480 file at 2,000 kbps encoding. I knew that it can be overclocked to become more powerful. If it can only do 854x480 at 1100 kbps then it is a big disappointment. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If 854x480 at 1100 kbps looks good to you, it may not look good to me because of possible pixelation. I want a device that can play full screen resolution with high bit rate. I know that it would require bigger memory card/bigger storage space and slightly consume more power but that is what I am willing to sacrifice.
Well, I guess I have to get either the Xoom or the G-Slate. I don't mind paying extra for it. Just put in some extra work time and I will get a device that I will be happy with.
I love gadgets and love to tinker with them and that is why I enjoy putting all kinds of available OS onto my HD2. I was just about buy the NC just to tinker with it but I guess I will wait until the great people at XDA can somehow get hardware video acceleration on the NC to be able to play videos at higher settings.
Thanks for all the info about the nook's video capability. It was very informative.
DSP support?
What are the chance the DSP will get supported in Froyo/Honeycomb?
So even with hardware acceleration we only get [email protected]
Mike
Video quality
Any idea if this would work better if the nook was oc'd to 1.1, I guess once the dsp is fixed maybe that and a 1.1 cpu will work.
While i do lov to play 720p videos on my captivate (its screens is 800x480) it is down scaling those videos... the main reason i do 720p is because thats what tubemate will let me download them as and still work..
That being said he 480p that the NC can so is still a very good picture.. Normal CTR TV's are only 480i dvd's are at 480p and they still look good on my 42" 1080p tv.. not as good as blu-ray but still good.. and thats stretched to 42" were talking about 7"
1080p 42in= 52.45 DPI
1680x1050 20in monitor= 99.06 DPI
NC running 800x480 at 7inch= 133.28 DPI
NC running 1024x600 at 7inch= 169.55 DPI
Now.. looking at those numbers.. so you REALLY need to run at 1024x600? even at the 800x480 your getting less pixelation then you do on a 42inch 1080p tv.. yes the NC is held ALOT closer.. but even so.. its still giving you DVD quiality picture in your hand on a 7inch screen..
The video playback is definitely disappointing. It sucks not being able to just download a video and just watch it.
I'm getting a bit lost from the conflicting opinions. I'm a lazy and VERY not fussy video viewer. My main use of my NC is to watch videos that were originally made for an iPhone.
Bottom line... Now that sound is working in honeycomb to the NC. am I going to be able to watch my simple iphone type videos on my NC if I take it up to honeycomb? Remember. I'm not at all fussy about quality as long as it isn't too terribly jerky.
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I'm getting a bit lost from the conflicting opinions. I'm a lazy and VERY not fussy video viewer. My main use of my NC is to watch videos that were originally made for an iPhone.
Bottom line... Now that sound is working in honeycomb to the NC. am I going to be able to watch my simple iphone type videos on my NC if I take it up to honeycomb? Remember. I'm not at all fussy about quality as long as it isn't too terribly jerky.
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From what i understand (and thats not much =) currently honeycomb still has NO hardware acceleration for video.. nither does froyo so the best video playing on a NC you can get is currently running a rooted stock rom.. encoded at 800x480 or below.. the iphone 3gs and older all have a screen size of 480x320 so they SHOULD work as long as they were encoded properly (right codec and such)
Although I understand the excitement, this seems like a very premature discussion. Despite the repeated statement that honeycomb is available on the NC, out is in fact not. What you are seeing is actually an SDK build. Software Developers Kit. For development. And the first SDK at that. You are essentially seeing an emulator running on the nook screen.
Before everyone goes nuts I know that is not technically correct, but it is as correct as saying we are running full honeycomb.
After an AOSP build is released we will see a more functional version and eventually probably see better integration with the video hardware. And for my final rain on this parade...I am a professional video content creator. And if you think you are able to see the difference between DVD quality and 2100 stream HD on a 4.3 inch screen, you are mistaken. Or have vision above that of mortal men.
For the record I owned an HD2, now use the Evo and also own a NookColor.
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...I am a professional video content creator. And if you think you are able to see the difference between DVD quality and 2100 stream HD on a 4.3 inch screen, you are mistaken. Or have vision above that of mortal men.
For the record I owned an HD2, now use the Evo and also own a NookColor.
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Ok i'm confused by this part...
No one was really talking about the 4.3 inch screen..
ANYWAYS the dvd quality vs 2100 stream HD by that do you mean a 2100/kbps steam?
if thats the case then its not a surprise seeing as 2100/kbps is enough to stream at 480p.... which is dvd quality
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Ok i'm confused by this part...
No one was really talking about the 4.3 inch screen..
ANYWAYS the dvd quality vs 2100 stream HD by that do you mean a 2100/kbps steam?
if thats the case then its not a surprise seeing as 2100/kbps is enough to stream at 480p.... which is dvd quality
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OP's original question was about "I will be converting 720p .mkv movies to .avi format with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate to get the best video quality."
Later after some responses he comments he gets better resolution on his HD2 (that is a 4.3" screen) so he will skip the nook.
You still point out a misunderstanding I had now that I go back which is that he is starting with a 720p source but ending up 1024x600. But really this is just makes my point stronger because then we are looking at an even smaller difference in the resolution.
I'm not sure that how many people at here know this fact.
Tegra 2's H.264 decoding is waaaay worse than Hummingbird(Galaxy S)
It cannot run any HD H.264 video HP.
Source?
Tegra2 can decode 720p at AVC HP and 1080p at AVC MP with reasonable/usually bitrates at 30p.
€dit: Just seen that u have the korean model, right? AFAIK the LG-Player isn't supporting the mkv-container,
allthough Tegra 2 would be up for the task (at 720p30 HP) as mentioned earlyer.
You will find out when you get O2X
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I think with VLC or RockPlayer you can probably see a difference
How does x264 perform?
I think its the same issue as Adam had with the video/audio desync. Its not a hardware limitation.
I don't get it. I've tried various videos and none of them work properly. However, the demo video files that were on the device (1080p) run perfectly. No frame-skipping at all.
Is there something I'm missing?
I was kind of baffled by this too.
Brilliant playback on the included 1080p files.
So i thought yay lets grab some 1080p trailers from youtube with tubemate.
But alass. not very smooth! Think its indeed the profile that does the trick. or in this case, doesnt.
Next thought. Ok rockplayer will help me out here!.
But i wasnt too impressed with rock on my galaxy s either!.
Loaded rock. but also very crappy. Which is when u think of it, pretty logical.
Why? No hardware support! Rock doesnt even remotely know what a tegra2 soc is. and in fact, NONE of all the video apps do.
So in stead of funky tegra2 hardware decoding, you get software playback.
Ive heard some rumors about nvidia developing an android video player for tegra but i dont know if this is true or not at all.
so unless someone makes a proper video playback app (which in my opinion is way over due already! no offence but theyre all crap if u ask me!) which supports hardware playback AND tegra2 soc, it wont improve very much.
My 2 cents
Ok some more info, apperently Tegra2 isnt very great with high profile encoded. baseline and main profiles should work. more testing to do. Also everything below 1080p high profile should kind of play properly. My eyes are on VLC for android and fingers crossed for them to bring tegra2 suppot and their own great codec sets
Check the Motorola Atrix forum, on XDA (sorry cant link from mobile app), they have basically given up on playing hd h264 files on tegra 2. Such a shame.
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Yes indeed. It sucks ass. I have the same unit but then from T-Mobile Netherlands. Video included works like a charm (ofcourse) but own added videos look like they are in slowmotion. 720p, 1080p doesn't mattter same issue.
Extra added flaw? When your record video in Full HD it does not play back on Full HD TV's or BD players. I checked why and found that it actually records in 1920x1088p!!!! Yes 1088P people.
FOTA updates are also not working for the T-Mobile branded unit. Comes back with validation error.
Tegra 2 limitation
Some search on the internet revealed that Tegra 2 supports fully h.264 main profile, but for high profile, it is only 720p 6MB/s, which is then not suitable for a BD. Anyway, I don't have the intention to fill in my 32 GB of storage with just one movie...
Recording in 1088p instead of 1080p is a bit more annoying, you think there could be a solution for that?
Tom
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Source?
Tegra2 can decode 720p at AVC HP and 1080p at AVC MP with reasonable/usually bitrates at 30p.
€dit: Just seen that u have the korean model, right? AFAIK the LG-Player isn't supporting the mkv-container,
allthough Tegra 2 would be up for the task (at 720p30 HP) as mentioned earlyer.
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Yeah MVK-files can be played with other videoplayers on Market but I've read in reviews that it's awfully "laggy". Saw a video where they tried to play mvk in RockPlayer, i think it was, and damn... looked like 1fps!
I tried to play a mkv file yesterday with the build-in player which crashed my phone.
I installed qqplayer and am pretty satisfied with the result.
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I tried to play a mkv file yesterday with the build-in player which crashed my phone.
I installed qqplayer and am pretty satisfied with the result.
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What kind of mkv did you try? 1080p?
I keep saying its a software issue causing all these troubles, i have a Adam and since the latest update i saw a improvement on the video playback.
Once we get proper support for mkv it will be awsome
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I keep saying its a software issue causing all these troubles, i have a Adam and since the latest update i saw a improvement on the video playback.
Once we get proper support for mkv it will be awsome
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Do you have a video of the adam playing back mkv?
You can search in the thread @ my sig for " Notion Ink Adam Qi Vs Motorola Xoom by Inspiron41 "
I can add that any file that i have MKV to be played has to have the extension changed to AVI and only QQPlayer can run them, if the sound quality is high more than 2 channels the fps rate will be low this happens with either 720p or 1080p. But if i try to run a MP4 file with 1080p it runs very smooth with audio and video sync, so for me its a issue with decoding of MKV.
Oh and the Adam is running froyo no multiprocessor support neither the video apps do.
I'm looking at possibly getting an Android tablet for some pretty basic use. Mainly browsing websites over wifi (or tethered to my DX), reading books, comics, maybe watching some TV/movies, etc. My main concern though is watching the videos...most of the movie files are HD video, 720p or 1080p rips. What kind of video playback performance does a rooted NC have?
I've just started thinking more about getting a NC and rooting it with a custom ROM, instead of getting a Xoom or the new 10.1 Galaxy Tab (mainly because of the price), but if it won't be able to reliably play my videos, that's out. I can always shrink the resolution down with Handbrake if needed, that's not a problem, I just don't want the playback to be all jittery/stuttering.
video performance will depend on which rom you go with. I believe DSP codecs are enabled in nookie froyo, but can't comment on the performance as i haven't used it.
cm7 is starting to get dsp support but video such as from the youtube app is still shakey.
but i actually tested some regular TV rips (avi) in MoboPlayer and they seem to run fine.
The Froyo version works very well with youtube and movies stored on the sd card. They look good to me and i am happy with the NC on Froyo.
I just installed CM7 last night so i can't really comment on that yet but i did read that youtube is not working right and videos have issues. I will try this tonight hopefully.
Videos do play in the newest CM7 nightly, albeit mainly around 15 fps, but it is pretty constant in this early face.
You will without a doubt have to encode your HD videos again in order to watch them on the nook without stutter and audio sync issues. With the hardware limitations the nook has videos need to be encoded in h.264 baseline format at a resolution of 854x480 or less. There is a handbrake preset thread on the forum that works well.
When the subject of video playback comes up often on these forums what you'll get are people chiming in that this and that will work. When in doubt press them hard for what their tolerance level is regarding playback quality. For some of us "it works" can mean that video plays and audio is heard well enough to be watchable but artifacts and stutter and audio sync issues exist. Others demand full framerate with no stutter and zero audio sync issues. Personally I fall into the latter so I resolve myself to adhere to the use or my handbrake preset and am satisfied.
If cost is a factor then be aware of the old adage that you get what you pay for. The nook is no POS by any means but is also not a Xoom or iPad 2. Its a fantastic value and works well for the purposes you describe provided you're willing to accept the compromises like re-encoding videos for smooth playback or tethering via adhoc wifi due to lack of 3g etc.
Devs are making great strides in the development of cm7 and it won't be long before a fully functional version is out that's suitable for daily use. They're not quite there yet though so compromises have to be made and you can read about those in the cm7 dev and user threads.
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Thanks for the very informative replies, espcially muzzy996. I'll probably wait a bit and see what happens with CM7, or if the prices on the new Galaxy Tab 10.1 or Xoom drop down to a more acceptable amount before CM7 is good for daily use. Plus, now that I think about it some more, a 7" tablet isn't THAT much larger than my DX...I may just end up waiting on a decently priced 10" tablet regardless...
In my opinion:
No matter the kernel, build, processor, etc....Nook color (and Android in general) is going to struggle with sync (audio and video) issues of video encoded in a format that is not "native" to Android (The "infamous" iPod video format.) Anything else is decoded via software -- and will display less than desirable results. Like I said....I have noticed this on all 4 of the different Android devices I have owned...it is not specific to the Nook.
Well, I've had no problems with watching divx rips on my DX, but I haven't tried, that I remember, watching any HD video (mostly because the majority of my video files are several gig's, and I don't have that much room free on my memory card).
I am very picky about video playback and I find when videos are encoded for the Nook theg look and play wonderfully on rooted stock and Froyo.
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In my opinion:
No matter the kernel, build, processor, etc....Nook color (and Android in general) is going to struggle with sync (audio and video) issues of video encoded in a format that is not "native" to Android (The "infamous" iPod video format.) Anything else is decoded via software -- and will display less than desirable results. Like I said....I have noticed this on all 4 of the different Android devices I have owned...it is not specific to the Nook.
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I've read that TI isn't exactly open about the DSP. If it were otherwise you would probably see much more flexible hardware decoding.
I had NC with Cyanogen Mod 7. I couldn't get 720p to work on it.
Now that my NC got broken, I'm thinking of buying it again. Is there anything new about 720p?
i'd like to know too. as from the day after tomorrow i will be a Nook owner too
In this price range you're still not going to find a decent tablet with 720p capabilities. If your only goal is videos, start taking a look at the chinese tablets and the archos. If you want a tablet with the ability to do it, but not perfectly, then the nook is your best choice.
I say not perfectly, as I found that 720p video was better on the .29kernel (1300mhz) with Moboplayer. 720p works okay with overclock and Moboplayer on the .32 kernel though...
That said, 720p is overkill for that small of a screen.
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I would see the tablet being worth it if it was 1080p but I'm not sure aboutv720
Check out my newbie YouTube: http://youtube.com/androidhow
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Um what? ----
Basically no, there isn't any news on the video playback front. The new B&N update's codec had the same file limitations that we had previously, so we lack the codecs for 720p (like an Archos has).
If you want 720p playback get a used Galaxy Tab.
It really isn't a problem for me to watch 720p on NC's screen, but if it was able to do it, it would save the hassle of converting the videos and movies I download for my PC.
I will try moboplayer with OC.
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It really isn't a problem for me to watch 720p on NC's screen, but if it was able to do it, it would save the hassle of converting the videos and movies I download for my PC.
I will try moboplayer with OC.
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At least 1350 isn't enough to run 720p videos. I tried to set up tversity but couldn't get it to transcode.. Didn't feel like setting up either of the free alternatives either, lots of fuzzing with config files..
Technical question for you re-encoding guys. Does the 854 limit count after or before anamorphic scaling? So is it possible to play back pal 2.3 picture format movies? Native resolution 720x445, stretches to 1024 wide on-screen..
Hey guys,
I think I read somewhere that the nook color CM7 nightly builds got the functionality of hardware supported video playback(?) Is this true? Does this mean I can play .avi (DivX and xvid) files smoothly using something like yx player/rock player without having to convert it to .mp4?
I am contemplating a nook color. All the other features seem great. Looks fun to mess around with. A good video playback would be an additional plus for me
I have had pretty good luck using Moboplayer and a bunch of videos I made with Handbrake for my iPod touch using the default iPod Touch profile. They are playing well and look good. Handbrake is free and it works pretty fast. I know you said you did not want to do MP4 but you might take a look at retranscoding.
I'm using CM7 nightly 102.
HTH,
Paul
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I have had pretty good luck using Moboplayer and a bunch of videos I made with Handbrake for my iPod touch using the default iPod Touch profile. They are playing well and look good. Handbrake is free and it works pretty fast. I know you said you did not want to do MP4 but you might take a look at retranscoding.
I'm using CM7 nightly 102.
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As good as Stock 1.1.0?
pgrunwald, have you tried .avi files?
Okay. Hardware Acceleration will only work with specifically encoded for Nook Mp4's. (Yes videos for ipod touch, etc... will work, as their resolution is under the maximum the nook can handle) For more information as it's just to much to type... Look up the video threads by Dalingrin and Chisleu, they have all the information on that.
Now .Avi files. Play fine in software mode in any of the players you listed. That said, I'm gathering if you're watching an avi file, it's not over 720p, as that would just be stupid... But common "scene" releases of unmentioned files, do play fine.
720p Mkv's however absolutely require the OC kernel and in my current experience, the .29 kernel based CM7. The .32 kernel at this point seems to have trouble with 720p, it's not unwatchable, but it did stutter from time to time on my NC.
I'm using vitalplayer neon and it works fine for xvid avis. I didn't convert anything or check anything. I just used a file that I had downloaded to watch on my desktop. It stuttered a bit at the start but played smoothly after that. I was amazed. NC keeps doing more. I wasn't even overclocked at the time.
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720p Mkv's however absolutely require the OC kernel and in my current experience, the .29 kernel based CM7. The .32 kernel at this point seems to have trouble with 720p, it's not unwatchable, but it did stutter from time to time on my NC.
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Could you elaborate on this a bit more please (bitrate, framerate etc.)? I could never play 720p on my Nook. Currently I have one of the recent CM7 nightlies, and even OC'd to 1300 no player (Mobo, Rock, etc.) can't handle any of my 720p mkv's properly. It was also the case with OC'd .29 kernel. It's not that it just stutters every now and then; it's a heavily slowed down slideshow.
Maciej
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Hey guys,
I think I read somewhere that the nook color CM7 nightly builds got the functionality of hardware supported video playback(?) Is this true? Does this mean I can play .avi (DivX and xvid) files smoothly using something like yx player/rock player without having to convert it to .mp4?
I am contemplating a nook color. All the other features seem great. Looks fun to mess around with. A good video playback would be an additional plus for me
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Videos work great on Nook color CM7.1 nightlies. I use the built-in player and use handbrake to convert my videos.
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Could you elaborate on this a bit more please (bitrate, framerate etc.)? I could never play 720p on my Nook. Currently I have one of the recent CM7 nightlies, and even OC'd to 1300 no player (Mobo, Rock, etc.) can't handle any of my 720p mkv's properly. It was also the case with OC'd .29 kernel. It's not that it just stutters every now and then; it's a heavily slowed down slideshow.
Maciej
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To be honest, I can't really give specifics as the files are long gone that I did use. I was fully able to watch things like 720p trailers (Pirates of the Carribean) and the anime series Kaiji 2nd in Mkv at 720p.
If I get a chance I'll take another look.
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Videos work great on Nook color CM7.1 nightlies. I use the built-in player and use handbrake to convert my videos.
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I was looking to see if they would play well without the converting process
but thanks anyways.
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I was looking to see if they would play well without the converting process
but thanks anyways.
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Well if nothing else, I can guarantee playback of anything under 720p without encoding.
Anything above that is honestly overkill, not only for size of the file, but for the size of the screen; you just won't see a difference between a properly encoded dvdrip and a 720p bluray-rip.
That said, if you're like me, where you have certain files that are already encoded at 720p and would rather not "re-encode" or "re-obtain" them, then I can honestly say (in my experience) that the .29 kernel nightlies or Phiremod 6.2 with OC kernel (4/24) has played 720p files fine in Moboplayer. Not only has it played them fine, but it's not had a problem with soft-subtitles. Again though, this is from my experience in the past and I've been switching between .29 and .32 kernels, so I've been avoiding 720p files like the plague.
.32 kernel may be able to play 720p in the near future however, Dalingrin has responded a couple of times to my one man complaint team about the difference in video playback in the two kernels, and he's said that he is currently working on some major overhauls of the system that may or may not help address this issue.
so what I gather from here is that it handles video fine, even .avi as long as it isn't 720p? I also read something about it handling flash video fine @ 800mhz, 720p..?
here's the article:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/29/cyanogenmod-7-on-the-nook-color-hands-on-video/
RE AVI - I'm sorry, I have not had time.
I did make a handbrake MP4 file using this profile and it played great: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894165&highlight=handbrake
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so what I gather from here is that it handles video fine, even .avi as long as it isn't 720p? I also read something about it handling flash video fine @ 800mhz, 720p..?
here's the article:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/29/cyanogenmod-7-on-the-nook-color-hands-on-video/
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Flash video is a whole 'nother ball park. Again, I find .29 kernel to be the best at handling flash and have personally had problems with .32's kernel for longer videos.
That said, I'm one of the only few complaining (possibly the only one), so it's possible it's just me or my source sites/files.
720p flash I'm going to assume to be dodgy at best, there are few tablets on the market that I know of (i.e tegra 2 processor) that still have trouble with 720p flash videos.
That said, flash videos of Standard quality look fine, and the youtube app allows you to play HD (I'm assuming it's 480p) videos without fail and look very nice.
use rockplayer lite
I completely understand not wanting to reencode your videos but keep something in mind. If the video can play in the stock video player then it will be much, much better on your battery life. If a video plays in the stock video player then all the decoding can be done with the DSP co-processor. Leaving the CPU sit nearly idle which will result in dramatically less power consumption. Just something to consider.
And yes, better video playback may be coming to CM7 in the near future if I can get a some changes in. Perhaps even DSP 720p decoding...but shh, you didn't hear that from me. Oh and maybe even *some* flash hardware acceleration though I won't know if will work until I can test it since its closed source.
Don't get your hopes up for the last two because they may or may not work with the changes I have planned.
dalingrin said:
And yes, better video playback may be coming to CM7 in the near future if I can get a some changes in. Perhaps even DSP 720p decoding...but shh, you didn't hear that from me.
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Don't get your hopes up for the last two because they may or may not work with the changes I have planned.
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it's been really cruel of you to have woken up those hopes!!!! After all that time I reconciled with the fact I have to reencode vids...
Keeping my fingers crossed. If you achieve that, I am going to write a script which keeps tapping "donate to Dalingrin" at Nook Tweaks every time I watch 720p
Matchay said:
it's been really cruel of you to have woken up those hopes!!!! After all that time I reconciled with the fact I have to reencode vids...
Keeping my fingers crossed. If you achieve that, I am going to write a script which keeps tapping "donate to Dalingrin" at Nook Tweaks every time I watch 720p
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Haha, even with 720p support you will still likely need to reencode many of your videos due to the codecs being picky.