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Will be receiving a HTC TyTN II. It will be Orange branded and sim locked.
I understand the first thing will be to install Hard SPL.
1. Now, I read somewhere that HTC haven't released any official ROMs of their own with Windows Mobile 6.1. Why is it that the Shipped ROMs wiki page has them here?
2. Whether or not they are HTC's own 6.1 ROMs, there are three I'm willing to try. They are (and I'm just copying and pasting these from the Shipped ROMs wiki page):
3.03.405.0 (Radio 1.64.06.04) updated original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365047
3.02.405.0 (Radio 1.58.26.20) original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365068
3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) found here http://rapidshare.com/files/1170540....0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship.zip
These three seem to be "original" HTC Windows Mobile 6.1 ROMs. All are worldwide English. So what's the difference between each? Should I simply assume the one with the higher version number is the better one?
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
tak.japan said:
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
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Thanks for confirming for me. I can't check the e-Club yet as I will be getting the phone maybe tomorrow. Anyhow, I really just want the original (and latest if possible) HTC Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM. Which should I pick form the list in the original post. Is one of them the same as the current one on HTC's e-Club?
tak.japan said:
they have released wm6.1 check htc.com....
htc e-club...
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As your kaiser is Orange branded you will not be able to download from HTC, i wont recognise your imei. You should be able to find a link here, just root about the threads a bit. I'd start with the XDA kaiser wiki.
yardie.spike said:
As your kaiser is Orange branded you will not be able to download from HTC, i wont recognise your imei. You should be able to find a link here, just root about the threads a bit. I'd start with the XDA kaiser wiki.
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Thanks. Yup, I found 3 that seem to be HTC originals. Don't know how up to date they are with HTC's e-Club but they should do. From the three I have found below, I'm assuming the higher version is the latest (3.28.405.0), but why does the Shipped ROMs Wiki page not just delete the other 2 and keep the latest one?
Here are the 3 I found:
3.03.405.0 (Radio 1.64.06.04) updated original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365047
3.02.405.0 (Radio 1.58.26.20) original WWE found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365068
3.28.405.0 (Radio 1.65.16.25) original HTC WWE (World Wide English) found here http://rapidshare.com/files/11705402...16.25_Ship.zip
Question 1: Which should I go for, the one I'm assuming as the latest (3.28.405.0), or are all three completely different things?
Question 2: Do these HTC ROMs include all the bundled HTC software that would normally come on an original HTC TyTN II Kaiser?
I'd really like these 2 questions answered before I try the upgrade.
yrsmart said:
why does the Shipped ROMs Wiki page not just delete the other 2 and keep the latest one?
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Some users have better luck with older versions, or older radios. Newest isn't always better
yrsmart said:
Question 1: Which should I go for, the one I'm assuming as the latest (3.28.405.0), or are all three completely different things?
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Appear to be different build versions an different radios, Some builds/radios work better for some users than others.
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Question 2: Do these HTC ROMs include all the bundled HTC software that would normally come on an original HTC TyTN II Kaiser?
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Read the thread attached to them., it will tell you what comes with the rom and what doesn't
yrsmart said:
I'd really like these 2 questions answered before I try the upgrade.
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Hope this helped in some way. The best way to find the best ROM/Radio is to try them all and see what suits you the best.
Just remember that you will need to unlock the phone too, otherwise installing a new radio (which is needed for WM6.1) will lock your phone and require an unlock code. There is free software on this site to do that for you. Just follow it to the letter and try and use sim cards that are not sim code locked (which i done and had so many problems getting it unlocked)
If it arrives soon you have a very good chance it will have 6.1. If not there is a 6.1 update for download on the Orange UK 6.1 thread. With this you wouldn't have to 'crack' it and invalidate any warranty?
This is what I did and then load the cabs you want. I think every htc cab you could ever need is in here.
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Just remember that you will need to unlock the phone too, otherwise installing a new radio (which is needed for WM6.1) will lock your phone and require an unlock code. There is free software on this site to do that for you. Just follow it to the letter and try and use sim cards that are not sim code locked (which i done and had so many problems getting it unlocked)
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I think we are referring to Security unlocking. This process ensures that you phone cannot become bricked by installing the latest radios from HTC that have extra security. Without security unlock you cannot downgrade these radios without a tool called FrankenKaiser.
I'd recommend Sec Unlock for every user, It can be re-locked later if need be.
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Dave
Yes but the Orange UK phones are radio locked too, which requires the phone to sim unlocked and HardSPL installed to (To prevent Bricking)
stuart-online said:
If it arrives soon you have a very good chance it will have 6.1. If not there is a 6.1 update for download on the Orange UK 6.1 thread. With this you wouldn't have to 'crack' it and invalidate any warranty?
This is what I did and then load the cabs you want. I think every htc cab you could ever need is in here.
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Thank you all for your replies.
The phone will have Windows Mobile 6.1 on it, but it's Orange branded with Orange's bloatware. I would prefer just installing the default HTC ROMs. It's also going to be SIM locked to Orange (I confirmed all this before purchase). But, buying the Orange one also worked out cheaper for me.
Question 1:The first thing I'm going to try is SIM unlocking it, while keeping the Orange ROM as it is. Then I'll try a non-Orange SIM card and see if it works. Will I be able to simply unlock the SIM by just using KaiserUnlocker.exe?
Question 2:After that, if I don't like the Orange branded Windows Mobile 6.1, isn't it simply a case of installing HardSPL v3.x.x (latest) and then continuing with the HTC ROM flash procedure as found here?
Question 3:I've just read some replies above about security unlocking. I'll need to do that as well? Is it automatic as part of HardSPL version 3.x.x?
Sorry for all the questions, I've done and still am researching the Wiki/stickies. I figure it'll save time if I clarify the steps now before attempting anything risky.
yrsmart said:
Thank you all for your replies.
The phone will have Windows Mobile 6.1 on it, but it's Orange branded with Orange's bloatware. I would prefer just installing the default HTC ROMs. It's also going to be SIM locked to Orange (I confirmed all this before purchase). But, buying the Orange one also worked out cheaper for me.
Question 1:The first thing I'm going to try is SIM unlocking it, while keeping the Orange ROM as it is. Then I'll try a non-Orange SIM card and see if it works. Will I be able to simply unlock the SIM by just using KaiserUnlocker.exe?
Question 2:After that, if I don't like the Orange branded Windows Mobile 6.1, isn't it simply a case of installing HardSPL v3.x.x (latest) and then continuing with the HTC ROM flash procedure as found here?
Question 3:I've just read some replies above about security unlocking. I'll need to do that as well? Is it automatic as part of HardSPL version 3.x.x?
Sorry for all the questions, I've done and still am researching the Wiki/stickies. I figure it'll save time if I clarify the steps now before attempting anything risky.
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You must have Hard SPL v1 OliPof to use the Kaiser SIM Unlocker (from here)
The security unlock is not part of the Hard SPL 3.* process, there is a seperate thread by jocky on Security unlocking.
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
You must have Hard SPL v1 OliPof to use the Kaiser SIM Unlocker (from here)
The security unlock is not part of the Hard SPL 3.* process, there is a seperate thread by jocky on Security unlocking.
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Dave
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Ah, but then the KaiserUnlocker says I must also be on a Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM to SIM unlock it, and my Orange phone will come with a 6.1 ROM. And on the HardSPL v3 FAQ, it says if you're on a 6.1 ROM, you should use HardSPL v3.
So, does this mean I can't unlock the SIM, without first installing HardSPL v3, downgrading to a HTC 6.0 ROM, then installing HardSPL v1, use KaiserUnlocker, then install HardSPL v3 again and upgrade to HTC 6.1 ROM?
Or what better option does an Orange-branded HTC TyTN II Windows Mobile 6.1 Sim-locked phone have?
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Ah, but then the KaiserUnlocker says I must also be on a Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM to SIM unlock it, and my Orange phone will come with a 6.1 ROM. And on the HardSPL v3 FAQ, it says if you're on a 6.1 ROM, you should use HardSPL v3.
So, does this mean I can't unlock the SIM, without first installing HardSPL v3, downgrading to a HTC 6.0 ROM, then installing HardSPL v1, use KaiserUnlocker, then install HardSPL v3 again and upgrade to HTC 6.1 ROM?
Or what better option does an Orange-branded HTC TyTN II Windows Mobile 6.1 Sim-locked phone have?
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Install Hard SPL v3 and try the SIM Unlock, sometimes it will work, if it fails, downgrade to Hard SPL v1 and Flash a WM6.0 ROM. Then Sim unlock, then Flash the 3.* Hard SPL and a WM6.1 ROM & Radio.
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Install Hard SPL v3 and try the SIM Unlock, sometimes it will work, if it fails, downgrade to Hard SPL v1 and Flash a WM6.0 ROM. Then Sim unlock, then Flash the 3.* Hard SPL and a WM6.1 ROM & Radio.
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Dave
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Excellent, I will try this method and let you know how it goes. Thanks.
My brother bought for me X1 from Leipzig Germany its factory unlocked and has no branding. But it has windows in German.
My question is can I flash english rom vithout any spl unlocking?
and if yes please give me link which english wwe rom can flashed to my device.
I have experience with Elfin and Elfin was bought from china has chinese wm so I used wwe elfin rom and directly without unlocking it flashed.
So is there any chance that I can have englisj X1 rom original not cooked that can drieclty flash to my device?
You will need to flash HardSPL for X1 first (it's sticky on this forum), then you can flash UK rom. Remember that German version of X1 have qwertz keyboard, so if you will flash UK rom then some keys will have another function then they show.
But after that hardspl when I will change to UK can I go directly SEUS to recoknized my phone as UK phone and update via website? So if somebody have experience flashed German rom to UK generic and after that tested SEUS service please share here the results.
Can somebody give me link for UK Generic non customized rom I found on forum but it says at then begingn of link Customized UK I need original genereic UK rom please help me to find also if you tell me how to dump my rom I can dume German Generic rom for share with forum
When you've done HARDSPL you can use the SE update service
Thannks for info Fards
One more question I have conected with SPL things.
I have experience workign with HTC TOUCH XL USPL tool and flashed lot of roms with that tool but in HTC any time you need to flash another rom you should use USPL tool and then at some stage start RUU and flash your rom.
also if you stack in bootloader or in other stage you can always recover your phone using RUU and your device default rom.
Is this possible in X1?
Lets say I have German Genereic rom deivce I want to flash to UK rom direclty without any SPL tools and stucked in some stage with error. Can I use Kovski RUU and German Genereic rom (which is the my device's defalut rom) and recover from that stage?
Thanks in advance
ITMASTER said:
Thannks for info Fards
One more question I have conected with SPL things.
I have experience workign with HTC TOUCH XL USPL tool and flashed lot of roms with that tool but in HTC any time you need to flash another rom you should use USPL tool and then at some stage start RUU and flash your rom.
also if you stack in bootloader or in other stage you can always recover your phone using RUU and your device default rom.
Is this possible in X1?
Lets say I have German Genereic rom deivce I want to flash to UK rom direclty without any SPL tools and stucked in some stage with error. Can I use Kovski RUU and German Genereic rom (which is the my device's defalut rom) and recover from that stage?
Thanks in advance
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You should be able to yes, obviously make sure you've done hardspl before going to the UK rom.
The SEUS uses RUU to flash the rom.
If you have your own rom (such as stock german one) then it's much much easier to flash from the SD card. Jack did a decent walkthrough of that.. but just rename the file to KOVSimg.nbh and go into bootloader (volume down and reset at the same time).
is USPL available for the X1?? or its just the HD?
USPL is not available for Xperia... would be cool if it is made available at some point, though I've already flashed HardSPL!
I have a Vodafone branded Touch Pro 2 running ROM version 1.14.161.5. I have managed to download the latest HTC ROM upgrade 1.19.401.1 which is on the HTC website, but yet everytime I attempt to install it I keep getting an error message (294) informing me that there is an invalid vendor ID and that the update cannot be used for my PDA.
As Vodafone take an eternity to bring out ROM upgrades - and also the fact that I can't stand their annoying red theme - I wanted to ditch the Vodafone ROM and install the new HTC ROM so any ideas?
Cheers,
hard SPL your handset, then you can install any rhodium rom you want on it.
Thats what i did.
Go to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
and follow instructions, it is so easy and safe as long as u follow the instructions strictly.
Your Vendor is Vodafone, not HTC. If you want to upgrade you should use the Hard SPL first.
Follow the link above.
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can anyone give me a step by step on how to flash my ROM back to STOCK?
if you want it for warranty reasons then you will need to flash the SPL also to stock. you can just download the latest ROM from HTC website and flash it. it will give you the stock ROM on the existing SPL.
End of the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2710548&postcount=1.
Remember you will also need to go back to stock spl if for warranty purposes.
i have another problem, when in bootloader it wont change from serial to usb but was a week ago
7896zx said:
i have another problem, when in bootloader it wont change from serial to usb but was a week ago
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nevermind what i said there, for sum reason it works again now
I've kinda got thesame question. I flashed a stock rom (latest EU rom from HTC site), then stock SPL (1.14) and then the stock rom again. Is this enough to be able to claim warranty without HTC finding out about custom roms/boatloaders?
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accountabc said:
I've kinda got thesame question. I flashed a stock rom (latest EU rom from HTC site), then stock SPL (1.14) and then the stock rom again. Is this enough to be able to claim warranty without HTC finding out about custom roms/boatloaders?
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That depends. What was your original rom and spl? Are you entitled (via location) to use the new EU rom, eg if you live in America then this may not be acceptable to HTC.
When you boot up the new rom, are the screen colours ok as this will tell you if you have the right spl for your rom? If you have the latest EU rom, I doubt that 1.14 spl would be the right one, but it could be I guess. With the stock rom, you should also get the stock radio. So provided you have the stock rom available to your area, with the correct matching spl and the radio, there is no way to tell of your exploits
Thanks for your reply
The problem is that the screen of my device won't turn on anymore (Device powers on, I can connect with activesync, digitizer works fine) so i have no way of checking if I have the right SPL or not...
I also have no idea what my stock rom/spl/radio version was.. I live in the Netherlands, and through the official HTC site i flashed the latest rom, which included a radio (a radio version was part of the filename). What I'm trying to find out is:
Could 1.14 have been my stock SPL, or was that version never used on any Dutch Blackstone?
If the spl doesn't match the rom (wrong colours) that isn't much of a problem; I can tell them I tried to update my rom because I thought maybe my screen would work again after I installed the latest ROM... But if I have a SPL that was never even used I don't think they will buy that
According to the wiki there are 2 Dutch roms - one would require a 1.14.0000 spl and the other a 1.54.0000 spl. So I guess either of those would do.
When you flashed the rom from the website, where you still using hspl or uspl? Depending on the rom you flashed you will need to flash the matching spl. Do you have the full notation/naming of the rom you flashed. This should give an indication of which spl you will need.
As much as I appreciate ClydeB1 for assisting you, I fail to see a reason for this thread. A thread already exists for flashing advice, i.e. the dummies guide. Also the HardSPL thread exists and has advice on how to flash back to stock. So depending on your query post in either of these.
The initial query and reason this thread was created has been answered, so no need for this thread to remain open. Thread closed
Hello, new to 'hacking' the WP7 but i want to flash a custom dev unlocked ROM to my phone, but i want to make sure i dont use the wrong ROM, so i was hoping someone could point me in the right direction?
I have a HD7 (T Mobile unlocked, US model, i'm in the UK if that makes a difference, also using o2)
It's currently running the official mango by the disconnect internet trick in zune.
Thanks in advance!
JeffaCakes said:
Hello, new to 'hacking' the WP7 but i want to flash a custom dev unlocked ROM to my phone, but i want to make sure i dont use the wrong ROM, so i was hoping someone could point me in the right direction?
I have a HD7 (T Mobile unlocked, US model, i'm in the UK if that makes a difference, also using o2)
It's currently running the official mango by the disconnect internet trick in zune.
Thanks in advance!
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any Schubert ROM will flash successfully to your HD7 with RSPL or HSPL installed.
with that said...
is either RSPL or HSPL installed?
if not... you will need to get that. DFT's RSPL/HSPL.
and here is a little how-to if you have the wrong SPL. see steps 2 and 8.
after that,
any ROM in the HD7 WP7 Development thread should flash fine.
sh4d0w86.
sh4d0w86 said:
any Schubert ROM will flash successfully to your HD7 with RSPL or HSPL installed.
with that said...
is either RSPL or HSPL installed?
if not... you will need to get that. DFT's RSPL/HSPL.
and here is a little how-to if you have the wrong SPL. see steps 2 and 8.
after that,
any ROM in the HD7 WP7 Development thread should flash fine.
sh4d0w86.
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Thats great thanks! just a few questions for you..
RSPL or HSPL? (sorry new to this ^^")
So if i install a nodo ROM (considering i'm currently on Mango) will it just roll back with no problems?
do i need to do anything specific with these ROMS that have different radio software versions? or can i just ignore them?
I'm trusting if i use the backup tool i can restore my text messages etc again, i dont really feel loosing them. :/
JeffaCakes said:
Thats great thanks! just a few questions for you..
RSPL or HSPL? (sorry new to this ^^")
So if i install a nodo ROM (considering i'm currently on Mango) will it just roll back with no problems?
do i need to do anything specific with these ROMS that have different radio software versions? or can i just ignore them?
I'm trusting if i use the backup tool i can restore my text messages etc again, i dont really feel loosing them. :/
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RSPL is, basically, a temporary SPL, which returns to OSPL (stock SPL) after reset.
HSPL is 'permanent' until you flash another SPL or return to stock.
both allow you to flash a custom ROM.
if you flash a RUU_Signed.nbh from a NoDo ROM it will 'roll back' fine, but will erase all data currently on the device.
but if you just flash the SPL_Signed.nbh from a NoDo ROM, it will only flash the Radio and SPL. i recommend task00 to flash this.
unfortunately, through Zune, SMS doesn't get backed-up.
sh4d0w86.
sh4d0w86 said:
RSPL is, basically, a temporary SPL, which returns to OSPL (stock SPL) after reset.
HSPL is 'permanent' until you flash another SPL or return to stock.
both allow you to flash a custom ROM.
if you flash a RUU_Signed.nbh from a NoDo ROM it will 'roll back' fine, but will erase all data currently on the device.
but if you just flash the SPL_Signed.nbh from a NoDo ROM, it will only flash the Radio and SPL. i recommend task00 to flash this.
unfortunately, through Zune, SMS doesn't get backed-up.
sh4d0w86.
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I've managed to roll my phone back using the zune software, i didnt know that was a option, so now it's back to NODO but with the problem of my SPL is set to v4.5 and the link you sent me here takes the SPL to 4.05 if i'm reading it right.. but DFT RSPL only goes up to 3.4... so have i hit a dead end completely? :S
JeffaCakes said:
I've managed to roll my phone back using the zune software, i didnt know that was a option, so now it's back to NODO but with the problem of my SPL is set to v4.5 and the link you sent me here takes the SPL to 4.05 if i'm reading it right.. but DFT RSPL only goes up to 3.4... so have i hit a dead end completely? :S
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nope. not a dead end.
quickest fix.
01. visit HD7 Radio Wiki, link in my signature.
02. download a stock NoDo or Pre-NoDo Radio for your device.
03. extract the SPL_Signed.nbh from the 'stock' folder.
04. flash SPL_Signed.nbh with task 00.
05. SPL has now been rolled back.
from there...
06. flash RSPL.
07. flash HSPL, if desired.
08. flash newer Radio, if desired, using RUU_Unsigned.nbh from desired Radio.
09. flash Custom ROM of choice.
sh4d0w86.
sh4d0w86 said:
nope. not a dead end.
quickest fix.
01. visit HD7 Radio Wiki, link in my signature.
02. download a stock NoDo or Pre-NoDo Radio for your device.
03. extract the SPL_Signed.nbh from the 'stock' folder.
04. flash SPL_Signed.nbh with task 00.
05. SPL has now been rolled back.
from there...
06. flash RSPL.
07. flash HSPL, if desired.
08. flash newer Radio, if desired, using RUU_Unsigned.nbh from desired Radio.
09. flash Custom ROM of choice.
sh4d0w86.
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Sorry another question, I had found this program for making backups, now for some reason i cant post on that thread but it wont restore after i installed the new ROM, i dont suppose you have any idea why? it says restored in 6. something seconds then restarts the phone with no changes :S
Thank you again for all your help ^_^
JeffaCakes said:
Sorry another question, I had found this program for making backups, now for some reason i cant post on that thread but it wont restore after i installed the new ROM, i dont suppose you have any idea why? it says restored in 6. something seconds then restarts the phone with no changes :S
Thank you again for all your help ^_^
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i unfortunately don't know.
best bet, is to ask the question on that thread.
i haven't ever tried using it to back up my device.
actually, i haven't ever backed up my device before.
too busy constantly flashing and testing my intrinsicROM.
sh4d0w86.