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[Q] how is the loudspeaker?

we've known the old desire(dhd inc)'s speaker is almost a crap.hope htc do well this time.
it is the only point that may break my deal!

Interested to know this too. Although some have said it seems ok I would like to hear from anyone who can directly compare it to the DHD or the original Desire.

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Interested to know this too. Although some have said it seems ok I would like to hear from anyone who can directly compare it to the DHD or the original Desire.
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yes. but i don't think "ok" is enough,as that can mean they don't care about the loudspeaker/sound quality. hope they compare to samsung or nokia devices.

Had a play today - speaker is pathetic. Just like the Desire so HTC have learned nothing here!

It seems you can compare the speaker on the IncredibleS with the Desire, Z & HD. That's really a shame.
Currently I'm still on the Touch Pro2 mainly because the speaker quality is actually pretty good. Was thinking on buying the DesireZ a while ago but decided to skip it due to the bad speaker. Now the IncredibleS suffers the same problem.
Wonder if my next device will be an HTC. But look at the alternative. Devices from Samsung and LG suffer from LED notifications. What's wrong with these manufacturers?
The saga continues...

Not at all .....i have both phones and the incredible s is noticeably different to desire hd....i mean its no beats by dre.....but there is a noticeabe improvement.....when holding both phones hand in hand and playing same song.....you can barely hear the really tinny sound of dhd over the sound of incredible s.......dont get nme wrong there is till a lot of room for improvement by htc

I dont have a DHD but had the original desire and the incredible s is definitely better sounding from the speaker phone. Its not great & I wouldn't listen to music without decent headphones but it is improved none the less. I only use it for sat nav & its perfectly fine for that.

Well this is encouraging. My time with the Incredible S was very brief and the sounds demo'd to me were those that come on the card. When I asked for a demo of the speakerphone the assistant was unable to make a call so I wasn't able to test this.
Interesting, if it really is better than the DHD it may just be worth a shot for me ... Sat nav instructions were barely understandable from the Desire when I had it due to the poor quality - one of the reasons I ditched the original Desire and also the DHD.

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Well this is encouraging. My time with the Incredible S was very brief and the sounds demo'd to me were those that come on the card. When I asked for a demo of the speakerphone the assistant was unable to make a call so I wasn't able to test this.
Interesting, if it really is better than the DHD it may just be worth a shot for me ... Sat nav instructions were barely understandable from the Desire when I had it due to the poor quality - one of the reasons I ditched the original Desire and also the DHD.
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It is a tad bit louder that DHD but i think the noticeable improvement is depth of music...for instance the DHD will just sort of play snares and lound sharp sounds where as the incredible s has a wider range of sounds that you can hear

menov321 said:
It is a tad bit louder that DHD but i think the noticeable improvement is depth of music...for instance the DHD will just sort of play snares and lound sharp sounds where as the incredible s has a wider range of sounds that you can hear
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That's kind of what I was hoping for but is not something I was able to hear from the time I spend with the IS. Guess it needs more thorough testing to appreciate the differences.

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Well this is encouraging. My time with the Incredible S was very brief and the sounds demo'd to me were those that come on the card. When I asked for a demo of the speakerphone the assistant was unable to make a call so I wasn't able to test this.
Interesting, if it really is better than the DHD it may just be worth a shot for me ... Sat nav instructions were barely understandable from the Desire when I had it due to the poor quality - one of the reasons I ditched the original Desire and also the DHD.
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Sat-Nav is one of the main features of the phone for me, I used it on the Hero all the time but the screen was tiny. I use Co-Pilot, and the instructions are nice and clear for me, and the bigger screen makes a huge difference.

xspyda said:
Well this is encouraging. My time with the Incredible S was very brief and the sounds demo'd to me were those that come on the card. When I asked for a demo of the speakerphone the assistant was unable to make a call so I wasn't able to test this.
Interesting, if it really is better than the DHD it may just be worth a shot for me ... Sat nav instructions were barely understandable from the Desire when I had it due to the poor quality - one of the reasons I ditched the original Desire and also the DHD.
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Hmm as for sat nav i doubt either phone will really be on par for such a task on the audio front but as stated Incredible S has shown some improvement in music quality....but to be able to play turn by turn direction over car noise and traffic.....i doubt it will.
Also...
Visually both phones are good......as for use as a sat nav....the DHD has a larger screen for maps etc but the Incredible S has a better anti glare screen and much more vivid colours.....

Played with the HTC Incredible S. Loudspeaker is better than on the DesireHD. But my HTC TouchPro2 is still louder and the has more "body".
Currently also looking at the Optimus 2X by LG. This has a better sound chip. But haven't tested this in real life just yet.

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Had a play today - speaker is pathetic. Just like the Desire so HTC have learned nothing here!
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It looks like recent HTC products have speaker problem (at least it happens on my nexus one and MT4), but my TP2 doesn't.

The speaker on the I-S is without doubt 1000 times better than the garbage HTC put on the DHD.
The DHD speakerwas rubbish for music and I could never hear youtube videos without cupping my hand over the back of the phone but still to no avail.
Having got an I-S the first thing I did was compare the two side by side, and I cant even hear the DHD playing due to the loudness, clarity and depth of the I-S when both on SRS ...such an improvement, well done HTC.
For such a good phone, HTC really did betray the customer with what they put in the DHD...yes, its great with earphones, but who always wants to put earphones in..do they think nobody ever wants to show other ppl things they are watching.
Anyway, that isnt the only area of supremacy IMHO..the screen is much better, I dont know if its cos its smaller, but its clearer, not washed out, and has colour depth comparative to SAMOLED...you dont realise how bad the DHD screen is until they are side by side..you feel as if you have been robbed from day 1.
The viewing angles are amazing on the I-S cos of these issues too, clearly viewable at all acute angles.
The moulded handset is very comfortable, lighter which is betteras regardless of what ppl say, why would anyone want a heavier handset????
The lip around the screen is much better than the DHD too, almost non existent, certainly not noticeable...the on off button is more distinct too.
I dint mean to bash the DHD, Im just annoyed as I bought one when it first came out and it was very expensive and apart from the solid build quality, HTC really did rob the purchaser at every level...so my contentness with the I-S is a consolation

I think the speaker is pretty good as well!
But then again, I'm coming from the Xperia X10 so quite everything is better on this phone! xD
Such an awesome toy

hell ye, the speaker is banging

Having used the HTC Desire HD and Desire Z, and now having switched to Incredible S I can say both the earpiece and the speaker phone are way better on the Incredible S.
I also used the TP2....the earpiece on the I-S is as good as the TP2. The speaker phone is not as good...as I have not seen any phone with a speaker phone as good as the TP2 till date (that was awesome).
Having said that, the speaker phone is quite decent on a stand alone basis and any day better than the D-HD which was SH*T!!!

Speaker is crap
Nice review by Engadget

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Speaker is crap
Nice review by Engadget
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that says it all

[Q] Audio issues- background noise

Has anyone else noticed any issues with a background noise behind the audio? It is most noticeable with headphones, however I can identify it regardless of how i am playing audio. It sounds like a sort of static/buzzing sound, and is really irritating now I've noticed it.

Jme369 said:
Has anyone else noticed any issues with a background noise behind the audio? It is most noticeable with headphones, however I can identify it regardless of how i am playing audio. It sounds like a sort of static/buzzing sound, and is really irritating now I've noticed it.
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I do have background noises that do sound like some static/buzzing, most noticeable after the ringtone / notificiation playback, for a second. And no, the actual ringtone / soundfiles are just fine, its related to the One.

S/N on Qualcomm DACs is not the best, but this sounds like maybe something different.

Background noise solution
Jme369 said:
Has anyone else noticed any issues with a background noise behind the audio? It is most noticeable with headphones, however I can identify it regardless of how i am playing audio. It sounds like a sort of static/buzzing sound, and is really irritating now I've noticed it.
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Hi I know the solution! Just switch off the NFC!
Settings/more/nfc
And you will be happy :good:
BRG
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The noise is really quite significant, it makes listening to music over headphones pretty bad below half volume.
NFC was already turned off, but thanks for the advice anyway.
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I've noticed the hissing when I use the camera to video something
I'm waiting for a replacement but now wonder if all phones are affected by the problem
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I doubt it, this is the only thread describing this problem so far. Return it is... Love the phone but am hating the build quality.
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Jme369 said:
Has anyone else noticed any issues with a background noise behind the audio? It is most noticeable with headphones, however I can identify it regardless of how i am playing audio. It sounds like a sort of static/buzzing sound, and is really irritating now I've noticed it.
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I think it might relate to Enable Beats sound. However, customer service told me HTC is working on this and will fix in SW.

It is the beats audio. Turn it off and the hiss is greatly reduced.

Beats audio seems to make no difference, have a replacement coming tomorrow so will be able to see whether it is a manufacturing fault or not.

I have this problem as well on my HTC One (Black).
It seems to be most noticeable on Youtube videos and games for me, disabling beats audio does seem to reduce the background noise / static but doesn't seem to get rid of it entirely, it also seems to happen no matter what you have the volume set to or if you are using headphones / the speakers.
I couldn't live with it and tried to get it replaced by phones4u but technical support said I would have to take it to a store and compare it with another HTC One, unfortunately no stores near me have any in stock so I am going to return it and wait for some of the kinks / build issues with the phone to be worked out.
-Aziki

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Beats audio seems to make no difference, have a replacement coming tomorrow so will be able to see whether it is a manufacturing fault or not.
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Did you end up getting a replacement and does it fix the problem?
Thanks,
Aziki

In my experience from having the One since Friday, I would say it is a software issue rather than the hardware. I do get popping and bad hissing from the speakers at different frequencies, but if I turn off Beats Audio it is reduced drastically, although then you lose the nice bass and depth from the speakers. Hopefully it will be fixed in an update. I mostly notice it on YouTube videos or files with lower quality/bitrate.

Rescheduled my delivery for tomorrow but will update this thread, id be suprised if this is an issue common to all the handsets though as it's pretty unlivable for me and I would have guessed more people would have reported it.
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Received the replacement, same issue with the audio. Could be either a software fault or a hardware fault common to the batch? Either way, the replacement I received has some awful build quality issues, gaps and an overhang in the metal. I like the phone but this is getting stupid, may just get an s4...

Jme369 said:
Received the replacement, same issue with the audio. Could be either a software fault or a hardware fault common to the batch? Either way, the replacement I received has some awful build quality issues, gaps and an overhang in the metal. I like the phone but this is getting stupid, may just get an s4...
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That sucks! :/
I was hoping you would come back saying your new phone is perfect and doesn't have the problem. It's weird that no one has come into this thread saying they don't have the problem, although only a handful of people have said they do.
It does seem like a software problem like you and a few other people have mentioned, considering sound is one of the main selling points of this phone you would have thought they wouldn't have shipped it with such an obvious flaw.
I'll be sending my phone back tomorrow and at this rate I'm not sure if I will be getting another one as the sound problem bugged the hell out of me for the short time I used it.
-Aziki

Phoned three and they were really apologetic, sending me a new phone that they will first inspect for build quality issues. I expect the audio issue will persist though. Phoned HTC to see if its a software issue or not (also reported the capacitive button issue) and a manager is going to phone me back at some point today or tomorrow. They have until the s4 release date to give me the phone I paid for or im jumping ship.... Good luck with your replacement .

The hissing is a known issue which only appears on some builds, I personally have no issue so it is hardware

What is the serial number of your device (the first 6 characters)? Would love to be able to track which build exactly has the issue.
Just to clarify, the hissing is most noticeable if you play a track at low volume through headphones. Is made worse with beats enabled, but still occurs without it on.

Serial number is HT339W, so it was made on the 9th March 2013 in Taiwan. No hissing at all

HTC ONE microphone problems

I bought my ONE from amazon.de and,after 2 months, I cracked the screen:crying: .I called htc and they sent me to the official service in my country(Romania). The guys there replaced my htc one (to my big and pleasant surprise) with a new one.I updated it to 4.2.2, but I got some complaints about my voice not being heard loud enough on this new phone.I don't seem to rememeber to have had this on the original one.....
Is it the mic?Or something to do with the network?Anyone elese having similar problems with the microphone during calls?
P.S. By the way,does anybody know how to enable/disable noise cancelation on this phone?

What I've noticed is that my calls aren't as clear as on my Galaxy S3, not sure if noise cancellation is doing too much, but my calls are definitely more "muffled", in fact I almost always have to use my headset to hear people loud and clear. Loudspeaker mode works fine though

It's probably related to this:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/02/htc-hdr-mic-dropped/

mr.r9 said:
It's probably related to this:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/02/htc-hdr-mic-dropped/
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Yes, I know about that,that is why I wanted to buy the phone as quick as possible, probably the first one,which I bought in april,was from the first batches,with that mic in it,and this one is not.But,stil,this doesn't explain the low volume....
I mean,I did a test: I put on a song on my ipad3 in a quiet room at about a quarter of the full volume and opened shazam on my htc one and got at about 1-1,5 meters away from the tablet. To my surprise,the mic recorded the sound and shazam recognized the song!!After this little experiment,my conclusion is that the mic is working ok,but,during the calls something is a little wrong!

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What I've noticed is that my calls aren't as clear as on my Galaxy S3, not sure if noise cancellation is doing too much, but my calls are definitely more "muffled", in fact I almost always have to use my headset to hear people loud and clear. Loudspeaker mode works fine though
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In regard of hearing the other persons voice,everything is ok for me,the sound is loud and clear,i don't have problems.

lev04 said:
In regard of hearing the other persons voice,everything is ok for me,the sound is loud and clear,i don't have problems.
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Same here in fact I never heard anything better when talking.
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Same here in fact I never heard anything better when talking.
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yeah,you're right,it's like the person on the other phone is there,speaking in your ear!
But what about your voice,do you have problems making yourself heard to the other person?!

[Q] Quiet Speakers

My HTC One's speakers are really quiet. On maximum they sound quieter than Desire HD's... How can I fix that and possibly without root ? :angel:

+1... I have never been happy with the loudness, even sent my HTC to the service and apparently they replaced faulty speakers but I can't hear the difference. I compared my one with couple ones in several shops and mine was always quieter. There are threads "how to decrease volume on htc one" as people complain it is too loud, I wish my was that loud
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Sometimes my speakers are even working and restart fixes it... Htc replied to me that I should compare it to other htc-s and if its bad i should restore defaults and try safe mode on the phone.. Neither of them fixes it... I heard it got screwed with the 4.3 update because people requested, but thats way too quiet.. "Boomsound"... Sure... I get the loudness I want in the toilet...

Terrible mic issue , how to fix?

I try a few fixes , disabling the google voice , change a few settings on mixer paths but the call quality and mic pickup is pretty bad. Was wondering if this is a hardware issue because a lot of posts has been up about how bad it is. I love this phone just got it but if this is the main issues that I used my phone =[. Any help or fixes I should check out because i have try many fixes.

I recently put a bug request up on their forums: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/noise-cancelling-mic-too-aggressive.477798/#post-15452631
It seems the mic is a bit aggressive with third party apps. Easy way to tell is to use the stock camera and record a quick audio clip, it should be fine. Then, in another app (Snapchat for me) take a quick video and you'll notice a lot of popping or distortion for any audio that's not close.

is this a hardware or software issue, do you think i should return it or keep it? if its a hardware issue then its not worth it

Fulfill said:
is this a hardware or software issue, do you think i should return it or keep it? if its a hardware issue then its not worth it
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It appears to be software, however I've read the original OP3 had a similar issue that was never really addressed--at least not officially. I'd say when we start to see some ROM's pop up those devs will have it handled, but I can't say for sure.

To be honest if this issue only gets fixed by ROM developers of custom ROMs I assume the 3t will not get my new phone
I was hoping that this issue got already fixed in 3t's Software but apparently it's not.
And OnePlus seems to not put any afford into this issue

They don't seem to put any attention! "They are aware" Is all i see. No real progress that one "LTE ZIP" will take away wifi calling. Im ordering a new phone in the coming days and might go with the zte axon 7 limited edition.
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I had the OPO which was great, then the OP3 which in CM14/14.1 there was an echo issue that the other side of the phone call would hear themselves, and now the OP3T has an issue with mic pickup in both regular calls and speakerphone. It feels like the quality is getting shoddy and the price is going up.

But I really don't understand why not more people are complaining about that. I read about that issue here in XDA first (but regarding the 3 and not the 3t). Then I really watched every review of the 3 on YouTube but the only one that was speaking about that problem was a German YouTuber (He is called SwagTab) in his review. No one else seemed to be aware of that problem (or didn't want to talk about it).
And I often read "it's a software problem". But why that problem hasn't been fixed already as it affects one if the essential parts of a smartphone: the microphone?
Don't know what I should think about that laziness or being unwilling to talk or fix that mess.

@bmwbasti When I had the OP3 it was narrowed down to we needed to wait for OnePlus to release the proprietary blobs for Android 7.x, but with OP3T it feels like laziness because they're still trying to please all the pissed off OP3 users and shafting the OP3T users in the process.

I think I haven't read anything about it but could it be that this issue is really fixes in the Nougat ROM that got released a few days ago for the 3? If so I could live with this issue until it's fixes in Nougat. But I think I will get my 3t not until Nougat is released anyway

Today is a sad day guys =[ i just RMA my one plus 3t , going to order the honor 8 they had an amazing sale for like 260$ i'm just going to see if i like the honor 8 , just going to be a temporary phone.. i mean why would such a good phone lack a bad mic =[

Very disappointed! The mic is a one of the most important parts of a phone. Ordered two one plus 3T devices but cancelled as soon as I came across this thread. Don't want to gamble with this.
Tried iPhone 7plus but miss my note 7. Want to go back to android, but can't find anything to substitute my note 7. Probably will go back to note 5.
Thanks to everyone who posted about this here
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Are there people who don't have this issue? Could every one check this please?
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Are there people who don't have this issue? Could every one check this please?
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Mic is just fine for me....if your implying to incall, haven't recorded anything as of yet to test that side, but as it works just fine during a call I'm not suspecting any issue's on the latter.....[emoji106]
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Just called OnePlus customer care to ask about this issue, they claim that they didn't have ANY complains regarding this for this model. Strange...
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Mic is just fine for me....if your implying to incall, haven't recorded anything as of yet to test that side, but as it works just fine during a call I'm not suspecting any issue's on the latter.....[emoji106]
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This seems to not be an issue while make a phone call "regulary" where your mouth is away only an inch of the microphone.
It seems to only happen when the "sound source" is not that near to the microphone as on calls.
I tested it myself with my son today. i sent him voice messages with WhatsApp. He said it's not that kind of clear like with my previous phone (HTC 10) but quality is still ok (while sound is muffled a bit) but it's so silent it's barely hearable when volume is set lower than 3/4. And he owns a HTC One M8 and that phone's speaker get really loud
Then i called him with WhatsApp but this time no messages but rather a voice call.
And now he said it's still not that clear than on my HTC 10 (but way clearer than before) but far louder and really good noticeable.
Topic: Really sad
Now there is a good amount of threads regarding this problem on OnePlus Bug Report section but it seems as if nobody of the staff cares about them...

My op3 is terrible every time I have gone to the service centre they would do a software reset and once changed the mic hardware but always acted as though I'm the only one with this issue. It's fine when I'm on speaker or through a headset but on a the normal phone mic the other end hears as though there's wind blowing

Almost all my callers complain that my voice is really muffled and they can't hear me well. Doesn't seem to matter if I have the phone to my ear, or using headphones. About 1/3 times, callers hear an echo of their own voice back at them, usually only for the first 30 seconds to a minute or so, then it stops. Really weird behavior and no idea if it's the mic or the radio or something else. Happens on all ROMS though. Started an RMA process to see if they can fix it. A chat rep hinted it might be a radio issue.

Phew glad mine is OK!
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I also don't have any mic issue.