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The reason that google hasn't dished out the paid apps like planned was most likely because 1 person could pay for it, download it and then spread it around to the rest of the android community.
I mean how could they prevent us (especially with root) from doing that.
I think that either they are gonna put a complete end to root (if possible),
or they're gonna completely redo the whole market and how it works.
Maybe make it so apps are originally apks but when installed they leave behind the installer and can not be installed again by finding the apk in the internal storage.
What are your thoughts?
Could be and what you said is being discussed in another part of dream forum. Tell you the truth I've been all over the internet constantly looking for paid apps and there is not much out there. Guitar hero said it was coming to android in jan and still isnt out yet! If they do that im sure someone will find a way around that as well though haha
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Could be and what you said is being discussed in another part of dream forum. Tell you the truth I've been all over the internet constantly looking for paid apps and there is not much out there. Guitar hero said it was coming to android in jan and still isnt out yet! If they do that im sure someone will find a way around that as well though haha
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478445
Pay or not to pay for an application have been discussed for year and I believe there are people out there are willing to pay for the application they need, even the warez version is just some clicks away from them. You see how PC's software industry lives up? I cant find any software that cant be cracked. It's just a matter of time if someone is really wanna do that.
So it should be the same case here.
While I think there will be a common security thread in the Market I think developers need to also enact their own security to prevent priates. If there is one security procedure then it only takes one crack to take everything.
They will do like a DRM on the apks kind of like the iphone has now.
Honestly, anything they would do would probably be wasted time.
The iPhone anti-piracy mechanisms have been defeated recently, and whatever Google would put forth would likely be taken apart. There's just no way to prevent it, same as the problems that other platform developers have experienced.
There will always be people who pay for their apps, and there will always be people who pirate them, and very little can be done to prevent that.
It'll probably be something like every time an app is bought it is signed with an encrypted code that is given to each individual phone and coupled with a single application.
However, would each app have a different algorithm or would it all be one big pot.
Either way..
That would work rather well
Unfortunately for me though.
I am a pirate mateyys ARRrrrrr
haitiankid4lyf.
With as little offense as possible. You understand the stupidity of your screenname right? You're a kid? For lyf?
Peter pan or somethin?
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It'll probably be something like every time an app is bought it is
haitiankid4lyf.
With as little offense as possible. You understand the stupidity of your screenname right? You're a kid? For lyf?
Peter pan or somethin?
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XD That made me laugh.
I agree. Remember though, there's not THAT many rooted users out there. I think that as long as the apps are priced reasonably, they'll be fine.
okay i really like this one and the retro defense games but i cant see the full versions of those. and apperently theyre out already.
whats wrong?
i have adp 1.1h
can u see any paid apps? (I might be wrong) The market is blocked to users that have Dev phones and I believe also to users who are running adp. Search around, there are several threads about the market and this paid app issue.
Hopefully someone with more knowledge chimes in.
as was stated, this has been stated alot, but, since you are on ADP, you are blocked from seeing 'copy protected' paid apps, which, it is unfortunately. This was one thing I was waiting for paid apps for, and I can't buy it either.
Fortunately, I can now see Aevum somehow (I think they moved it to not copy protected), so I bought it with the quickness incase they change there mind again
Oh wow how gay...
So if you don't have adp (jfv 1.41) you CAN buy this apps??
I just saw this game on another site and decided to give it a try since it's free. I've been want Words With Friends or a decent clone for awhile. Wordwise Pro just doesn't fit the bill. So far WordFeud is great given it's really new.
http://wordfeud.com/
PS: I'm not getting paid to promote this. It's just really fun and I'd though I'd share.
Add me if you want to play. My ID is Snapshotx
Awesome! I have been looking for something like this. Thanks so much. Just started playing you, username is Foobu.
Thanks for the recommendation! I have been missing "Words with Friends"
Anyone can add me for a game as well. My ID is dweebs0r.
wioooow this is the most exciting day I have ever had work my captivate, please people just uninstall word wize loool, that's is it,this is actually better than words with friends, all it needs is sounds, and an option to pay for a add free version, if they make this a cross platform words with friends is going to be yesterdays news
The reason I want words with friends is so that I can play with my fiancee on her iPhone.
tell get to get a android then you can be reunited with word feud again lol
Having alot of problems staying connected
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its been working flawless for me and all my friends maybe its your network or something
my mistake, yes it isn't working at all now, even there website is down, seams like words with friends bought them out lol
Back up and working
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Been playing it with my coworker since this morning, lol... Btw, is there a way to resign even if it's not your turn yet?
yes, this is MUCH better than WordWize - almost exactly like WWF.... if anyone is up for a game, feel free to invite me: Aftashok is the name.
man I used to LOVE words with friends on my iPhone. Thanks so much for sharing this!!!
If anyone wants to play just add: smeltn
i wish the game would incorporate a ratings system and win/loss records..... the competitive me wishes for such things.
Wish there was at least a paid version to get rid of ads, hopefully that will come cause i dont mind paying a dollar to support the developer on this, pretty good so far and the people over at WWF probably wont release anything for a while. Thought that games that were won/lost didnt go away but apparently they do after 2 days, needs to be sooner than that or user removable.
Name: hollaholla
Sweet!
Mine is TexUS.
It'd be nice if WWF would show up on here though so I can play with iPhone people.
This game uses a lot of data, like 1MB in 1 Minute.
Is there anyway to stop it from using data when you're not in a WiFi area?
thanks for the heads up...
awesome game...
PS: not to thread-jack, but has anyone found a good boggle clone out there... with randomly oriented letters like the real game?
pietro_spina said:
thanks for the heads up...
awesome game...
PS: not to thread-jack, but has anyone found a good boggle clone out there... with randomly oriented letters like the real game?
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check out wordup. it's a "boggle-like" game.
on topic, word feud is fun. checking out how much batt. it takes with the push notification and multiple games. add me for games: funthony.
I gave this a try a few weeks ago, after using WordWise for 2 months...and I wasn't a big fan. The lack of a paid version, updates, and stat tracking was kind of a deal breaker.
WordWise was admittedly spartan when it first came out...but the developer updates the app fairly regularly, so I think I'mma stick with that one...until it gets abandoned or WordFeud updates. Heh.
Let's develop for the Adam tablet!
One rule! No Questions in this development section!
Eggsellent....... Curious about what type of rooting protection it has built in. Rohan mentioned something about it the other day in an interview. Anyone have any ideas on what it might be? The company seems pretty bent on customer service, but at the same time, probably doesn't want too many people messing around with Eden.... Oh well. We shall see.
http://notioninkhacks.com/index.php/2010/12/22/questions-answer-with-rohan-of-notion-ink-part-2/
[ANDY] Why did you add protection against rooting?
[ROHAN] Its a tough call. Its not impossible to root Adam, but that would lead into cancellation of warranty. We are in talks with our partner to understand how we can resolve this.
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I already like this thread a lot...
I hope I get mine before I have to head back to school so I have time do something before spring. I dont wanna leave all the fun to you guys.
This is Andy from Notion Ink Hacks, I have sent a few emails to Rohan asking him to be different and allow for root access. At the end of the day if the root process is easy, the recovery tools are available, and good software is written for the device, I believe it will actually lower their return rates and promote growth, development, and excitement. You all think I am crazy for feeling this way?
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This is Andy from Notion Ink Hacks, I have sent a few emails to Rohan asking him to be different and allow for root access. At the end of the day if the root process is easy, the recovery tools are available, and good software is written for the device, I believe it will actually lower their return rates and promote growth, development, and excitement. You all think I am crazy for feeling this way?
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The only reason I buy android devices is to be able to fully customize them. I like the option to remove factory apps, change color and modify the device to fit my needs. Also one thing is that if a devices is rooted and modified it can easily be undone if the device breaks. all companies are doing by making rooting void the warranty is making someone spend 2 extra minutes with the device before sending it in.
As for you point about return rate and growth and excitement is completely true. People follow developers and are excited when they release something. The reason I am on these forums right now is because I am always messing around with my phone. And it will defiantly lower return rates because if people dont like something it can be changed, there is a reason we waited a year to get the Adam and didnt setter for the iPad or another android device.
Not crazy at all! Thats great news. I'm looking forward to Jan 15 (ish). Happy New Year all.
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The one thing im a bit concerecned on is the zooming in the browser i think it looks laggy and slow. I either Notion Ink needs to fix this or someone from the community needs to helps out. I think the Adam with Honeycomb will be the best tablet out there. Imagine all the good things from honeycomb seen in heaps of videos today and then just swipe back up and there is eden. I can just see not only this tablet but the whole of Notion Ink grow and grow.
Yes, Honeycomb will be sweet on the Adam, unless the lack of apps makes it useless. I'm not sure what Notion Ink is thinking by not adding the Google Market. I had a Viewsonic G-tab for a few days (viewing angle was horrible) and before I rooted it and added the Market hack it was essentially a giant weather display/to-do list.
IMO the real Google Market will be my first reason to root the Adam.
I agree they do need the Google Market and I'm pretty sure that they will end up supporting it. Its just at the moment they are running 2.2/2.3 which is mobile phone software in which you need to be able to make phone calls or something for google to support them and give them the market. So once 3.0 comes out which is tablet optimised which will include android market for tablets, Notion Ink will be working there buts of to get the update out.
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This is Andy from Notion Ink Hacks, I have sent a few emails to Rohan asking him to be different and allow for root access. At the end of the day if the root process is easy, the recovery tools are available, and good software is written for the device, I believe it will actually lower their return rates and promote growth, development, and excitement. You all think I am crazy for feeling this way?
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Thing is that it's always the wrong people rooting for the wrong reasons, messing things up... Quality Control is tough when you're dealing with stupid..
Not a flame or a bash on anyone, but you know those are out there and the first thing they will post is, I BRICKED.. blah NI Adams is the sucks.. and then the moron trains follows.
There was mention of "root protection", but I am sure those that know will get it done, hopefully there isn't some automated, script or 1click "no I really can mess my tablet up" process too soon after
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I agree they do need the Google Market and I'm pretty sure that they will end up supporting it. Its just at the moment they are running 2.2/2.3 which is mobile phone software in which you need to be able to make phone calls or something for google to support them and give them the market. So once 3.0 comes out which is tablet optimised which will include android market for tablets, Notion Ink will be working there buts of to get the update out.
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As they said in an interview, they saw no need to pay to certify for market, when the market doesn't really have anything to offer tablets, but there will still be "sideloading"... until such time as it is worth it..
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I anticipate that rooting the adam will be equivalent to the method done on the G-tab. As open as Rohan would like the ADAM to be, his partners and/or investors would definitely demand some sort of protection especially if it ships pre loaded with premier apps from various partners. It would kick ass if it was shipped with Aldiko premium, but i'm pretty sure I've read about talks of Kobo and NI partnering up with a launch app. Nonetheless, rooting of the adam will happen most likely before the second batch of shipments are deployed.
Regards,
Jason
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http://notioninkhacks.com/index.php/2010/12/22/questions-answer-with-rohan-of-notion-ink-part-2/
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It will surely be rooted. After all, it's no longer illegal in the United States... it's only a matter of time once it gets into the hands of enough motivated people.
Sad that this is the position Notion Ink takes, though.
Isn't it possible to download the apps from the market on your phone and transfer them to the adam????
But market of no market. 2th pre-order I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Notion Ink Hacks will be working on trying to get recovery, root, market, and swype. If your a hacker and want to help stop on by. As you see my team and I will be contributing here as well. Working together and getting this stuff done quickly will give the Adam a solid foothold in the market place.
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Can't really transfer licenses for paid apps.
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Meego On Adam
Just putting it out there. I think Meego would be pretty cool to see on the Notion Ink Adam. I seen a custom ui from evolve another hidden manufacture of tablets and they seem to have done a great job with the ui. Check there site out evolve. com. au and go to the meego slate under products and tell me what you think. The site takes a bit to load so dont be impatient. =]
Its killing me waiting for my order to come...I cannot wait to see the development on this!
I would love to see the xbox 360 controller work with the adam. There are alot of cool games that I believe would be awesome with the use of a usb/wireless controller.
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So when is netflix comin to Android? I mean its been months since the dumb post that they put on there blog. Early next year they said. Well that time is now and I'm still waiting. Now I have read all the comments left on that blog. Many sayin how the dmr can't be the problem that that is to easy of a problem to be the reason Android is left in the dust with movie streaming. And then I read post sayin that that is a huge problem and will take a long time to get worked out. Now I don't know any thing about dmr and programming so I don't know who to take sides with. But my real beef now with netflix is that its early next year and thet can't give us not 1 update. Most of the comments on the blog where customers just asking for a update. All we want is to not be left in the dark. And if netflix can't take the time to give us a stupid little update to show us that you do care about the people that pay for your BMW. That's jacked up. And they say that only newer phones will be compatible but by the time the app comes out our new phones are going to be outdated. It just the fact that netflix can't take the time to inform and reassure it customers is retarded and I am strongly considering leaving for that reason. Shoot I can watch about anything I want on Justin tv.
But dose any one other than me care or feel bothered by this?
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that was one of the reasons i sold my android phone(there were other reasons too)
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So when is netflix comin to Android? I mean its been months since the dumb post that they put on there blog. Early next year they said. Well that time is now and I'm still waiting. Now I have read all the comments left on that blog. Many sayin how the dmr can't be the problem that that is to easy of a problem to be the reason Android is left in the dust with movie streaming. And then I read post sayin that that is a huge problem and will take a long time to get worked out. Now I don't know any thing about dmr and programming so I don't know who to take sides with. But my real beef now with netflix is that its early next year and thet can't give us not 1 update. Most of the comments on the blog where customers just asking for a update. All we want is to not be left in the dark. And if netflix can't take the time to give us a stupid little update to show us that you do care about the people that pay for your BMW. That's jacked up. And they say that only newer phones will be compatible but by the time the app comes out our new phones are going to be outdated. It just the fact that netflix can't take the time to inform and reassure it customers is retarded and I am strongly considering leaving for that reason. Shoot I can watch about anything I want on Justin tv.
But dose any one other than me care or feel bothered by this?
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it's all about the security, or lack there of on android. Netflix has to appease the movie companies that they have agreements with.
Exactly, in fact - I will go a step further and say that it seems very unlikely that it'll happen any time in the foreseeable future. The fact is, movie studios are very picky about content security *and* they are hesitant about mobile devices in general. A very open mobile platform with a large development community is not something the movie studios are likely to be huge fans of.
The only exception I could see is certain phones that are heavily customized such as HTCs and Samsungs getting Netflix as part of their custom software. And that would be a ways down the road. Yay for platform fragmentation. It's the double-edged sword of such an open platform. Open platforms get fragmented. Look at Linux itself on the desktop - fragmented beyond all belief. Which isn't necessarily bad. It's both it's best trait and it's worst.
netflix on android
Does any one know any type of hack or backwards way to view instant watch movies?
Likely not going to happen with the poor security.
I for one being a netflix user would love to see this app come to android. It would be one more reason to upgrade to a 4G phone.
I want netflix now
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i go with the others, Netflix will never be on Android.. i would like it to be, but.. it won't. i think Verizon has something similar to it now? i may be mistaken though
That would be cool.
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Ys if iphone 4g can have it android should!
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I feel like since Netflix has a five or six device cap as it is they should be able to detect if your account is using an android device and only allow one or two of those to be designated devices.
Netflix on android would be awesome
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I like using netflix on my old iphone 2g, but my evo has a 4.3 inch screen that just seems wasted unless I watch some netflix on it...
yeh it might take awhile before android gets netfllex.
Rumours are going on that Netflix is coming for android soon