[Q] Will flashing a firmware in Odin wipe the phone? - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi.. I want to keep the apps/data/msg etc on the phone, can I flash the official branded firmware through Odin without it wiping the phone?
I'm sick and tired of Kies f**king me over, it offers an update but FirmwareUpdate crashes whilst downloading the update (tried on Win7 and XP, multiple cables, reinstalls etc)
Kies is offering me the JVH update.. I'm on JP6 (2.2) and am rooted through SuperOneClick and have flashed the Speedmod Froyo kernel, undone lagfix
I'm guessing this should be possible as I have updated to JP5 and then JP6 through Kies in the past and all the data was preserved.

viva.fidel said:
Hi.. I want to keep the apps/data/msg etc on the phone, can I flash the official branded firmware through Odin without it wiping the phone?
I'm sick and tired of Kies f**king me over, it offers an update but FirmwareUpdate crashes whilst downloading the update (tried on Win7 and XP, multiple cables, reinstalls etc)
Kies is offering me the JVH update.. I'm on JP6 (2.2) and am rooted through SuperOneClick and have flashed the Speedmod Froyo kernel, undone lagfix
I'm guessing this should be possible as I have updated to JP5 and then JP6 through Kies in the past and all the data was preserved.
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Every firmware will you flash via odin....everysingle one will wipe all your data... There are some cases when it won't but after flashing you'll get FC of all your apps...
If you're running a lagfix you must deactivate it when you want toinsstall a 1 file firmware If you want to flash a 3 file firmware you shouldn;t care about it

yes, the ROM wipes PERSONAL data, like messages, phone book and so on,,,but NOT the SD card, so basiccaly if you back up these data via Titanium back up, the back up folder will be stored on the SD and will remain.

Your data is wiped but sdcard isnt
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Thanks guys for the replies, knew it was a good idea to ask before I found out the hard way!
Guess I'll just wait until Samsung fix that p.o.s. Kies

Might be a good time to come over to custom roms and f**k kies off for good!
GTi9000 insanitycm010/insaneglitch

slaphead20 said:
Might be a good time to come over to custom roms and f**k kies off for good!
GTi9000 insanitycm010/insaneglitch
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Try criskelo rom you might like it
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There is titanium backup, but don't backup system apps. Use sms backup&restore app to backup messages, it works from 2.1-2.3.4
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flashing firmware with odin will format only data. not sd card. do a nandroid backup before you flash.

slaphead20 said:
Might be a good time to come over to custom roms and f**k kies off for good!
GTi9000 insanitycm010/insaneglitch
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Personally, if it were my phone I would have backed up the important stuff and update through Odin but it's my gf's phone and she doesn't want me messing up her homescreen/msgs/contacts/settings/apps etc..
I ended up emailing and *****ing to Samsung about Kies and they've suggested I take the phone down to one of their Service Centres and let them deal with it, might try that out.

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[Q] NO Filmware Cant update to Froyo

what do I have to do to use the phone update?
i think my phone was rooted using Titanium Backup (installed)?? The phone also has one click lag fix.
Ive tried running update it doesnt work. no filmware to resume. Do i have to do something special? I dont want to lose data. Thanks for helping a noob.
webrobert said:
what do I have to do to use the phone update?
i think my phone was rooted using Titanium Backup (installed)?? The phone also has one click lag fix.
Ive tried running update it doesnt work. no filmware to resume. Do i have to do something special? I dont want to lose data. Thanks for helping a noob.
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If you want Froyo then your only options are to flash back to stock and then use kies mini to get the update or flash a custom ROM based on the new release.
webrobert said:
what do I have to do to use the phone update?
i think my phone was rooted using Titanium Backup (installed)?? The phone also has one click lag fix.
Ive tried running update it doesnt work. no filmware to resume. Do i have to do something special? I dont want to lose data. Thanks for helping a noob.
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Att learned their lesson on the last OTA. The update is with Keis only
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Can I flash back using one clicklag fix or Titanium Backup?
And, I download kies.
Titanium backup only backs up your apps and data.
One Click Lag Fix? -- is a.. lag fix.
Are you still on 2.1? Or are you on 2.2 right now?
one click had a button to unroot. 2.1. [How do I "flash back to stock"?]
This one [STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY if you have the three button recovery.
This one I897UCJH7 - OTA System, Kernel, Modem - Clockwork Flashable - Rooted if you want to use CWM.
This one {Stock Rom} Odin JF6 with 3 button fix if you need the three button fix.
I installed official 2.2 via Kies right over rooted 2.1 with no issues. After the install, TiBu was still there, but would not work until I rooted 2.2. What I am saying is that, in my experience, flashing back to stock before updating via Kies was not necessary and by skipping that step all of my aps, SMS, and call logs migrated over seamlessly.

[Q] i9000 voodoo installation

hello all
I am using the I9000 international version
official rom 2.3.3 I9000ZSJV6
I tried installing the new voodoo and turns out there is the signature problem, realizing is the recovery 3e which is causing it.
so now I wonder if I can still install it through Odin? Just select the PDA and starts it?
Will I lost any data in my phone? I already have pictures contacts and stuffs backup, but just don't want to lose those installed applications.
Thank you very much for answering, helping and even just reading it!
Appreciate it, Thank you.
p.s. got another question in flashing roms, so do i also lost all data by flashing a new rom?
kristofa said:
hello all
I am using the I9000 international version
official rom 2.3.3 I9000ZSJV6
I tried installing the new voodoo and turns out there is the signature problem, realizing is the recovery 3e which is causing it.
so now I wonder if I can still install it through Odin? Just select the PDA and starts it?
Will I lost any data in my phone? I already have pictures contacts and stuffs backup, but just don't want to lose those installed applications.
Thank you very much for answering, helping and even just reading it!
Appreciate it, Thank you.
p.s. got another question in flashing roms, so do i also lost all data by flashing a new rom?
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I haven't i9000 but i'm sure you have to flash a custom recovery like CWM first...
Yes. 3e Recovery is the problem. If you want to get 2e Recovery which will solve this issue forever, you will need to flash CF-Root.
Either that or you downgrade your SGS to Eclair 2.1 (Step by Step) and flash it back to what you want to gain 2e Recovery.
And yes. You can flash a kernel via Odin with PDA. If you flash KERNEL ONLY, your data will not be wiped out. However, if you are to flash a new ROM, all your Data will be wiped out.
Thanks all
I plugged the phone and tried to flash the voodoo pda file and my phone is stuck at the GALAXY S screen for 30 mins.... omg what can I do now?
omfg........
I think i have found out the reason...
i have mistakenly flashed the Froyo kernel to my phone
can I flash another kernel n hope it turns ok??
omg
I am trying to flash it with SpeedMod Gingerbread hopefully it can over-writes it but it is now stopped at the "zImage" stage in Odin geeee
someone help pleaseeeee
Reflash to stock kernel and start from clean might do the trick.
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smiles.smiley said:
Reflash to stock kernel and start from clean might do the trick.
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already flashed with Galnet
fortunately data still here =D!
now just trying to figure out how to import contact list to my phone since it does not support kies anymore .__.;;
Just import the contacts with your gmail account.
admir3000 said:
Just import the contacts with your gmail account.
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urgh
but my backed contacts are save as .sbu
might just flash it back to official rom and apply lag fix....
SpeedMod Gingerbread and Talon Kernel Alpha should work just fine with official rom right?
sorry for so many questions, thanks for helping!
btw how to remove lagfix if i wanna update through kies in the future?

[Q] Samsung Kies upgrading to Gingerbread

I am having trouble updating to Gingerbread using KIES I currently have installed FROYO 2.2. but Whenever I plug in my device I get a not supported message 2.0 error. I have also tried rooting the phone but I am not able to continue.
Can anyone help?
Don't use kies; use odin. If you don't repartition you will keep your apps/settings. Your results will be exactly the same as if you upgraded via kies.
no repartition, no cwm cache/factory reset = battery drains, fc, soft reboots and so
$omator said:
no repartition, no cwm cache/factory reset = battery drains, fc, soft reboots and so
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Not necessarily. I went from KC1 to KG3 on my wife's phone and she has absolutely no issues. However I wouldn't go from KC1 to JVR without a factory reset. It all depends the source/destination.
yes necessarily
$omator said:
yes necessarily
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Explain. What mechanisms are at work to cause such problems? The only logical explanation would be left over app data from previous system apks. But my experience has shown that this is not an issue.
What do you think kies does differently to allow upgrading without wiping?
infact thats the source of most if not all problems (left over app data from previous system apks)
kies update is not the same as odin update or cwm update
$omator said:
infact thats the source of most if not all problems (left over app data from previous system apks)
kies update is not the same as odin update or cwm update
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Fair enough. My original point holds. My wife has not had a single issue since upgrading via odin.
so the package was well prepared new files overwrited old ones and app data was wiped
$omator said:
so the package was well prepared new files overwrited old ones and app data was wiped
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It was the official kg3 downloaded using check fus downloader. Either way it doesn't matter; one can try without wiping and if problems occur, just do a hard reset. Simple enough.
I put Milkys MOD on my phone, and used Kies for my daughter's, Kies goes straight on, no problem, all apps and contacts as they were, a good, safe way to upgrade.
We live in OZ, but I changed my daughter's region to EU so she wouldn't end up with the pages of Optus crap, and only 2.3.3, Kies gave her 2.3.4 JVQ.

Damn Kies Problem!!

Hi everyone,
I used custom roms for a long time and after that i decided to upgrade original samsung rom via kies. so i downloaded turkish rom from samfirmware.com and now i connect to kies and it says this device is not official samsung device and doesnt upgrade my samsung in the past there was method called spoof kies however it doesnt work with latest kies?
so how can i upgrade the official rom?
Just download right firmware from samfirmware.com and flash it via Odin.
It is that simple. Kies is ****
Why are you using kies? I used kies once when I first got my SGS and it almost screwed my phone up. Its a known fact that kies is crap, stick to odin and CWM
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Just find out one of the previous ROMS that was officially available for your country or region. Flash that ROM via Odin. Then, you should be able to connect to Kies and update without any problems.
Erakko said:
Just download right firmware from samfirmware.com and flash it via Odin.
It is that simple. Kies is ****
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Pretty much this. Kies is way too buggy...
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gsw5700 said:
Why are you using kies? I used kies once when I first got my SGS and it almost screwed my phone up. Its a known fact that kies is crap, stick to odin and CWM
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The newer versions of Kies are better now. Also, the advantage of using Kies to update is that your data isn't wiped.
disclaimernotice said:
The newer versions of Kies are better now. Also, the advantage of using Kies to update is that your data isn't wiped.
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...and you can't backup all data + apps +++ you wish to save and restore later...?
You can always try Kies again and again, but I stongly recommend Odin method.
With Odin, I'm quite sure you won't get bad headache
Erakko said:
...and you can't backup all data + apps +++ you wish to save and restore later...?
You can always try Kies again and again, but I stongly recommend Odin method.
With Odin, I'm quite sure you won't get bad headache
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Well, you can back everything up with apps like Titanium Backup, but certain apps won't work properly after restoration, especially games. Fruit Ninja, for example, will no longer be able to save new high scores after restoration, and gameloft games don't work at all after restoration. Upgrading by Kies avoids these problems. But I guess that if you don't play games that much, Odin is the better choice. However, restoring apps takes up some time, while using Kies is faster.

Question abt rooting

Hi guys,
For the first time I wanna root my Note and would like to do it cleanly. I would like to root my Note, use custom ROMs and be able in the future to come back to a stock ROM which is upgradable via KIES.
My first question is to know if the process of downgrading to an older firmware could corrupt the EFS folder. (using PC odin)
2. Will it wipe my phone? In sammobile they don't specify if the older ROMs are wipe or non-wipe.
Thx
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1- it shouldnt do, i have downgraded using pc odin without an issue
2 - get a non wipe rom fromthe list in the sticky in the dev section
Thx for your reply, I would also like to know:
1. If after rooting the older rom my phone will be upgradable via (recognised by) KIES.
2. If the answer of the question is YES, then what kind of back up should I do in order to be able get my phone at that "state" later on, after having tried other custom ROMs.
I'm trying to be more cautious because with my older i9000, I couldn't get it recognised by KIES after flashing different custom ROMs. My EFS folder was corrupted (empty indeed) and there was unfortunately no way back in my knowledge...
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it might be but if you update via kies you will lose root
Could somebody else give me a more convincing answer?
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Yes you can root your Device. Here
Just make sure you are in rootable ROM, in case if you are not in rootable ROM then u have to downgrade ROM via PC Odin.
Download rootable Stock ROM from Here
In the above Dr. Ketan's Thread he mentioned the rootable and non rootable ROMs
after Downgrading and installing CWM+Root flash any Custom ROM
You can get back to Stock ROM again without worries. Just Flash Stock ROM which is available for your country via PC Odin. (You get warranty too)
If you do everything correctly, then nothing goes wrong.
They are many ROMs available in above thread and Dr.Ketan marked some ROMs as Wipe or Non Wipe.
I've downgraded using this KL3 firmware (india)
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/137391605/31899b9/N7000XXKL3_N7000ODDKL1_INU.zip.html
I don't know why but my phone is no longer upgradable by KIES. It shows "Your device does not support software upgrading via KIES"
Anyway, next step is rooting
Better news, after the downgrade, I rooted the phone using this method:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJjh6gi0Spw
It rooted my phone without any problem.
After, I did a complete backup using Titanium Backup then backed up my EFS Folder using the "root explorer" app (copy and paste the folder) and via the desktop app "ESF Pro" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308546
After that I upgraded to my original firmware LB1 using Mobile Odin Pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997&highlight=root
ROM: http://www.hotfile.com/dl/147259547/5483373/N7000XXLB1_N7000OXALB1_DBT.zip.html which is a non-wipe ROM.
I'm so glad that now the phone is upgradable via KIES, it shows that I've got the latest firmware.
If you upgrade via kies, you'll lose root. so in essence, once you're rooted, whatever kies says doesn't really matter, as you'll most likely always be using mobile odin or cwm from that point onward, assuming you want to keep root of course.
newg said:
so in essence, once you're rooted, whatever kies says doesn't really matter, as you'll most likely always be using mobile odin or cwm from that point onward, assuming you want to keep root of course.
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I cannot agree more with this...Don't bother with Kies now that you're rooted. Why wait for OTA/Kies updates when you can get any new Rom here at XDA a day or two after it is released?
Removing Kies scheisse from zips is the first thing I do before flashing new Roms. Needless to say, it's been removed from my PC ages ago, and replaced by Sammy USB drivers for transferring files etc.
In a word, forget Kies, you're in better hands here at XDA.
rossygnol said:
I'm so glad that now the phone is upgradable via KIES, it shows that I've got the latest firmware.
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But if you update it with kies/OTA, you will lose Root. So update using CWM/Mobile odin only.
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chasmodo said:
I cannot agree more with this...Don't bother with Kies now that you're rooted. Why wait for OTA/Kies updates when you can get any new Rom here at XDA a day or two after it is released?
Removing Kies scheisse from zips is the first thing I do before flashing new Roms. Needless to say, it's been removed from my PC ages ago, and replaced by Sammy USB drivers for transferring files etc.
In a word, forget Kies, you're in better hands here at XDA.
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Exactly.
Even it appears on XDA before OTA, as usually OTA appears few days later to Kies release.
I understand all you're talking abt. I would probably not need to update my phone via KIES anhmore. But it could prove to be important when I want to sell the phone. I would like the new owner to be able to get updates via KIES or OTA.
By the way, after the root I have frozen many Apps which keep my ram free now and I assume that battery life will be better. Everything seems to work fine just HD widget doesn't work, it's my favourite. It says that there is not Internet connection or something like that. Could anyone know what it's about and how to fix it?
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Did a factory reset and now HD widget works just fine.
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