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[Q] Why is browsing so awful with nookie froyo??

Ive tried stock rom 1.1.0 with autonooter 3.0. Honeycomb v4 and nookie 0.6.8. All of them installed on the internal memory. Id like to keep nookie because of flash player but browsing with it is awfully frustrating. Ive used stock web browser and dolphin browser. Why is it like that? other apps such games run smooth but only web browsing is horrible

survivor_evil said:
Ive tried stock rom 1.1.0 with autonooter 3.0. Honeycomb v4 and nookie 0.6.8. All of them installed on the internal memory. Id like to keep nookie because of flash player but browsing with it is awfully frustrating. Ive used stock web browser and dolphin browser. Why is it like that? other apps such games run smooth but only web browsing is horrible
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I've become a recent convert to Miren. It's the only browser that seems to play well with my stock 1.1 setup. It's fast and has a metric ton of settings. Dolphin mini is pretty good but it crashed on https for me.

lyam23 said:
I've become a recent convert to Miren. It's the only browser that seems to play well with my stock 1.1 setup. It's fast and has a metric ton of settings. Dolphin mini is pretty good but it crashed on https for me.
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Did you speed up the CPU? Is it a network problem. Mine seems to work fine. Is it slow for u?

cheezer38 said:
Did you speed up the CPU? Is it a network problem. Mine seems to work fine. Is it slow for u?
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Regarding https failure? Have no idea what's causing it. It happened after root, before and after OC. Tried two re-roots. No go. All I know is no browser I've tried works except Miren. Luckily, Miren is a very nice browser...

I'm using Dolphin HD on nookie froyo. It's not desktop smooth but its smooth enough. I'll have to try that other browser you mentioned to compare.

lyam23 said:
I've become a recent convert to Miren. It's the only browser that seems to play well with my stock 1.1 setup. It's fast and has a metric ton of settings. Dolphin mini is pretty good but it crashed on https for me.
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Now i have stock 1.1 and dolphing hd works really good much better than on nookie froyo. My question is because games work well on nookie but just browsing is so slow when scrolling or zooming

Have you tried skyfire?? It works great for me on nook 1.1 with autonooter 3.0

survivor_evil said:
My question is because games work well on nookie but just browsing is so slow when scrolling or zooming
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That is because games use the GPU to accelerate their GUIs, while the web browsers you mentioned only use CPU.
If you want GPU based web browsing, your only option on Android is Opera.

survivor_evil said:
Now i have stock 1.1 and dolphing hd works really good much better than on nookie froyo. My question is because games work well on nookie but just browsing is so slow when scrolling or zooming
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Browser lag is usually caused by flash plugins loading. If you set the plugin settings in Dolphin to "on demand", it'll make scrolling much smoother.
The reason you probably don't see this issue in eclair is there is no flash, so no plugins loading...
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C Dippa said:
Browser lag is usually caused by flash plugins loading. If you set the plugin settings in Dolphin to "on demand", it'll make scrolling much smoother.
The reason you probably don't see this issue in eclair is there is no flash, so no plugins loading...
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I didnt even install flash for the few minutes i tried it until i went back to stock

You shouldnt have had to, the 0.6.8 custom nookie froyo image already has flash 10.1 installed. You should have been prompted upon initial setup of Dolphin HD about what to do with flash content. The screen is really easy to bypass without reading it so perhaps you didnt notice.
Surfing with Dolphin HD in Froyo is laggy, particularly with flash sites, when using stock cpu clock settings. If you bump up to 1100Mhz using SetCPU with ondemand enabled and adjust Up Threshold down from 95% to something south of 50% (personally I use 45%) the lagginess is greatly reduced.
Dalingrin's latest 3/8 and 3/10 kernels are REALLY PROMISING with interactive govenors setup to cut down the lag. I'm not qualified to say what it is exactly that's being worked on but basically the lag you see is due to the CPU ramping up in clock speed to handle the load and these newer kernels are trying to address that. The new kernels have some wifi bugs right now on the froyo build but Dalingrin's working on it. Towards the end of the thread there was a working kernel posted by funcrusher (page 77 of the dalingrin kernel thread) that seems to be the most stable build for now for froyo without too much wifi issues. Once the kinks are ironed out on the interactive govenor kernels though Nookie Froyo's going to be SWEET with that kernel. Then again, CM7 with interactive is probably really nice too (havent tried CM7 yet).

muzzy996 said:
You shouldnt have had to, the 0.6.8 custom nookie froyo image already has flash 10.1 installed. You should have been prompted upon initial setup of Dolphin HD about what to do with flash content. The screen is really easy to bypass without reading it so perhaps you didnt notice.
Surfing with Dolphin HD in Froyo is laggy, particularly with flash sites, when using stock cpu clock settings. If you bump up to 1100Mhz using SetCPU with ondemand enabled and adjust Up Threshold down from 95% to something south of 50% (personally I use 45%) the lagginess is greatly reduced.
Dalingrin's latest 3/8 and 3/10 kernels are REALLY PROMISING with interactive govenors setup to cut down the lag. I'm not qualified to say what it is exactly that's being worked on but basically the lag you see is due to the CPU ramping up in clock speed to handle the load and these newer kernels are trying to address that. The new kernels have some wifi bugs right now on the froyo build but Dalingrin's working on it. Towards the end of the thread there was a working kernel posted by funcrusher (page 77 of the dalingrin kernel thread) that seems to be the most stable build for now for froyo without too much wifi issues. Once the kinks are ironed out on the interactive govenor kernels though Nookie Froyo's going to be SWEET with that kernel. Then again, CM7 with interactive is probably really nice too (havent tried CM7 yet).
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the websites i was browsing there had no flash. sites that on stock rom are smooth on nookie are awfully laggy. im still on stock rom trying opera and wow the gpu acceleration really makes a difference just as smooth as on idevices.

Opera does not work on Nook Color

survivor_evil said:
the websites i was browsing there had no flash. sites that on stock rom are smooth on nookie are awfully laggy. im still on stock rom trying opera and wow the gpu acceleration really makes a difference just as smooth as on idevices.
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Well flash or not an overclock kernel in Froyo does a lot for browsing experience. Thats more of the point I was trying to make.
Like I said, try other kernels in Froyo for a better idea of what is possible. A 1100Mhz kernel by dalingrin with interactive govenor is slick, its just the wifi kinks that need to be ironed out. In a week or two I wouldnt be surprised if it's resolved.
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muzzy996 said:
Well flash or not an overclock kernel in Froyo does a lot for browsing experience. Thats more of the point I was trying to make.
Like I said, try other kernels in Froyo for a better idea of what is possible. A 1100Mhz kernel by dalingrin with interactive govenor is slick, its just the wifi kinks that need to be ironed out. In a week or two I wouldnt be surprised if it's resolved.
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wouldn't an overclocked processor drain battery faster? if i have to overclock the processor so i can have the same experience as on stock rom doesn't seem to be very efficient.

amtrakcn said:
Opera does not work on Nook Color
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mine must be magical or how could u explain im using opera right now
(sarcasm off)

^Opera Mini, not the regular PC, Mac, and Linux one.

survivor_evil said:
wouldn't an overclocked processor drain battery faster? if i have to overclock the processor so i can have the same experience as on stock rom doesn't seem to be very efficient.
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It can, depending on what you have it set to and what you are running. You have a bit more control with setCPU on how your cpu is going to behave. Without a doubt, if you are looking to push the nook to the point where its silky smooth at everything in froyo you would want to try the interactive govenor kernel but live with lower battery life.
The experience isnt the same though. If you feel it is then stay where you are with stock.
Right now I'm running a kernel from the dalingrin thread that was posted I believe on page 77 of the thread where wifi is stable and my battery life is good with the setcpu settings I'm using.
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Frankly I don't see what the "awful" is all about - I find browsing to be much more enjoyable on Nookie Froyo than on the B&N stock browser, with the exception of needing to use Button Savior to access the Back and Menu keys. Even without overclock, pinch-zoom is far smoother on NF. I've also been playing with Mobile Firefox as a second browser but some of its features aren't ready for prime-time.

I've got nookie froyo installed and the browser has been fantastic. I even watched an episode of Californication via Flash this morning.
The only problems I've actually had are with the Theme I installed. It made my stock browser FC, but now I use dolphin HD.
The nook is a hot product right now, once Honeycombs AOSP comes and dev's have more time to update roms like Nookie Froyo we should have pefect devices.

Is there a rom with smooth working flash and youtube?

With all the different roms and different versions I'm getting really confused and which roms can do what.
I've tried phiremod v2 and cm7 nightlies and the youtube app doesn't work at all in either. Youtube in the browser I couldn't get to work in phiremod v2. I can watch youtube if I change my user agent to desktop with cm7 nightly but it's choppy.
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?

This is not an answer to your question -
But if the widespread rumors are correct, then the B&N Stock NC will be updated to 2.2 with Flash by the end of the month, and then if you root that, you will be able to sideload Youtube App for Froyo to that. In fact, the update is supposed to include a B&N Market, and one would expect B&N to have all the Free Google Apps in their Market at startup. (But that's just speculation.)

Flash Player 10.2 working for me
I downloaded Flash Player 10.2 earlier today and it installed and works much better. I am running Phiremod 4.1. I got the APK from: freewarelovers(dot)com/android/app/adobe-flash-player
It's important to remember that Flash is an application framework that can deliver video among MANY other things. If you're looking for a FLV video player, then the performance still is not here: it requires hardware support and we don't have the drivers yet.
BUT, if you want to play games and use interactive websites written in Flash, then try out 10.2. It is WAY more functional.

Interesting. Are you saying that there are no roms with smooth playing flash video? It seems odd to me that everybody is so happy with these roms when they can't watch any flash video smoothly.

flammenwurfer said:
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?
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To specifically answer your question, smooth video is supported in Eclair (the native Nook rooted ROM) and, I think, it plays acceptably in Froyo; although I could be mistaken.
A lot depends on the size/quality of the video; standard definition (640x480) should play acceptably well in either of those OS versions. Higher definition may stall from time to time.
Gingerbread 2.3 (CM7, etc) still does not have working drivers for the hardware assist features of the chipset, and hardware assist is essential to smooth video playback.
Here are the specs on Nook Color CPU/GPU (from Androidtablets.net):
CPU Processor: ARM Cortex A8-based Ti OMAP 3621 @ 800 MHz (same processor as Droid 2 and Droid X)
GPU Processor: PowerVR SGX530 Graphics Rendering: Open GLES1.1/2.0 Hardware Scaling: 854x480 scaled to 1024x600 Video Formats: .3GP, .MP4, .3G2 ** Video Codecs: H.263, H.264, MPEG-4, ON2 VP7 ** Image Formats: JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP ** (same GPU as Droid 2 and Droid X)​
As you can see, the GPU can support a native resolution of 854 x 480 (which is scaled in hardware to 1024 x 600); H.264/MPEG4 video (which FLV is a kind of) can be decoded in the hardware with the appropriate drivers. At present, all the players have to do this through software, which frankly is beyond the capability of the CPU at 800 MHz or even overclocked at 1.1 GHz.
We need to be patient; those hardware drivers will come.

Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?

flammenwurfer said:
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
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I am not sure whether the Froyo rom can play video smoothly. It does on Droid and other phones, so I would guess those drivers have been tried out. I had Froyo on my Nook Color for a while, but frankly can't remember how the video was.
flammenwurfer said:
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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It depends on what you need/want. For me, the text handling of Froyo was awful. I have a HTC EVO 4G (with Sense UI on top of native Froyo). On my phone, I can type pretty effectively. The user dictionary is fast and smart and if I make a mistake, I have an arrows-equipped keyboard to move the cursor to the text I want to correct and fix it.
Froyo (Android 2.2) on both my Nook Color and my Viewsonic G-Tablet were nothing like my Evo. The keyboard often got what I typed wrong and when I tried to set a cursor to make a correction, it would end up one letter off. I tried out a bunch of keyboards - some with arrows - and had an OK Froyo-based system, but as soon as a decent Gingerbread-based ROM came along (and Phiremod's is EXCELLENT!), I went with that.
In Gingerbread, you have a much more accurate keyboard and dictionary lookup. The keyboard still doesn't have arrows, but you have a very nice cursor positioning tool, plus the ability to select a little or a lot of text and copy/paste it anywhere throughout the system.
But, as you note, certain of the multimedia features aren't there yet. Since I use my tablets more as very handy computers and less as multimedia entertainment systems, the choice was pretty straightforward for me. I can wait a few weeks for video playback.
And, frankly, the reason a lot of people get excited about roms - and having lots of different roms - is because they are fun in and of themselves. They like to tinker. And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
But your mileage will certainly vary. If high definition is a deal breaker for you, you may find the Nook ultimately inadequate even when the Gingerbread drivers (and eventually Honeycomb drivers) come out. There's only so much power under this hood. A tablet based on Tegra 2 (like the Viewsonic G-Tablet or Xoom) may be more what you're looking for. With the right drivers, though, we should get perfectly acceptable 480p playback.
glg

The rom you are looking for is nookiefroyo. I have great YouTube playback in app including high quality. In browser 360p plays fine, but anything above that is choppy.
I also have tested other flash websites. CNN was perfect, as was megavideo.
I purchase my nook a few days ago and thus far nookie froyo looks to be the latest and most complete rom out. That plus the softkey theme I installed and the honeycomb keyboard makes this tablet a force to be reckoned with. I might even have to post a video soon because I'm so amazed atnhow well this thing runs.

I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.

Just a little notice, YouTube app doesn't use Flash for playback, it grabs MP4 version of a video stream, which is meant to play on mobile devices.

JLCollier2005 said:
I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.
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As in audio and video actually work smoothly (and are in sync)? What version of CM7 are you on?

I would like to know as well.
I'm on the latest CM7 Nightly and just installed the OC kernel. Youtube videos at 360p are playing ok now, but the audio is out of sync.
I might have to give Nookie Froyo another try. Interesting that the Youtube app works so well for you. I could have sworn that I would just get an error every time I tried to play anything.

flammenwurfer said:
Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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Eclair does hardware video decoding but no flash. Froyo and cm7 both do flash and froyo has you tube and video harddware support. However froyo for me at least has buggy wifi and screen of death issues which made it non viable for me. Hope this helps.
From Nook Color dual boot with CM7

That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.

flammenwurfer said:
That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.
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Agreed I had thought froyo would be best compromise as it was fast had dsp and flash working, but the sleep of death and wifi connection issues led me to rebooting the thing many times/day which was a real pain.
For now I have a dual boot setup (see thread in development forum) So that I boot into eclair or CM7. This way I do most of my activities in or other rom and reboot into the other when I need say to watch a video or use stock B&N reader.....

Another thing I haven't really thought about. How does battery life compare between the roms? I seem to remember comments here and there about CM7 roms having worse battery life than froyo or stock.

I would suggest to those trying Nookie Froyo on eMMC now to try the kernel posted in post #770 of the Dalingrin kernel thread on the development forum. For myself and several others this kernel is solid and yields no wake or wifi issues whatsoever. Until a more stable interactive govenor kernel is developed this is the one I'll stick with.

glgehman said:
And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
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Indeed. I'm a nooknoob but long time techie and am brimming with questions. Is that quote accurate -- that reverting to "factory fresh" state can be as simply as removing your SD card? (Because that's not the impression I've been getting; I thought you needed to do the 8 failed boots thing and/or reload ROMs.)

Hmm, guess not. I just noticed the thread titled "[HOW-TO] : Restore Nook Color back to stock EASILY".

I believe you can run most of the roms from the sd card without modifying the internal system. I don't know if you can do it without rooting though. You might have to root, then you an try roms on sd card. Someone else will have to confirm that or tell me I'm wrong , as I've not tried any of the sd card versions.

Chrome for Android Beta - can it be ported for <4.0 Devices?

https://plus.google.com/104629412415657030658/posts/d82636G5qm3
Can this be ported to Gingerbread in general or to CM7 maybe?

I always thought of the android stock browser being chrome, but regardless no i doubt it just wait till its released for other version by google i seriously doubt your missing much.... firefox turned out to be utter crap.

I would love that
I would love that because it was really glitchy in NOVA CM9, but now I'm using modded gingerbread and using dolphin

there is no way to port chrome to android versions below 4.0. Sorry. It just requires full hardware acceleration, which we dont have either way..
i tried all (and i mean ALL) the browsers i could find, opera was darn good, but eats a LOT of ram (i was playing music and browsing with opera and suddenly the music player got killed...wtf. and opera process was using 170 mb of ram).
so, the best browser is ....maxthon browser, its smoother than dolphin for me, almost same smoothness as opera, has some cool features and gestures. try it out

[Q] Noticeable lag when playing games

I have a nook color running phiremod 7.2
I have noticed a lag while playing games like Angry Birds. Angry bird space is unplayable it lags so much.
Is there a setting I should change? CPU speed? Or do I need to change ROMS?
Thanks
Ryan

I would start by updating to cyanogenmod 7.2 stable. How old is the ROM you are using right now? Sometimes its best to do a data and a cache wipe once and awhile just in case you corrupted your kernel base through updates. You will need to do this if you want to go from CM7 to CM9.
You can do this with the options in ROM manager along with clockworkmod. A nandroid backup first is recommended.
I use the built in overclocking with these cyanogenmod builds, I got mine overclocked to 1200 mhz. Any higher and you start running into problems with stability. I use the "on demand' governor within those options.
I have had no lag whatsoever on my nook playing all of the angrybirds apps. Might want to add a speed script you can find here after you update. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508481
The only time I notice any lag is through the Opera browser I am using when trying to watch HD video on youtube, I just chalk that up to the processor bogging down.

Test the ram if this is an issue, by killing with task manager all that is running, before you start the game.
It's not right to use task manager like this, but at least you could check if this is the trouble maker.
Unleashed from my Revolutionized Desire HD

I checked the ram ant it was not the issue. Iended up installing cm7.2 and everything is working much faster and smoother
Thanks for the help!
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Playstore lag scrolling

Anybody experiencing huge lag on playstore? It's lagging like my old galaxy s3....
My current htc one m8 has no such lag. Shouldn't the Tab S2 handle heavy graphic app like the playstore easily?
https://youtu.be/Z2l89lmpvig

Hello,
if you think this is a big problem please do a factory reset. Are you using a Custom ROM? Thank you.

I had stock 5.0.2 earlier, and now stock 5.1.1 (flashed with odin), both showed lag on playstore. There is also some lag when scrolling in YouTube app. But besides that, everything is (almost) smooth in menus, chrome, twitter. Wanted to know if other people have the same experience.
Maybe i'm used to my htc m8, it has no lag or jittery animation at all. Everything is like 60fps animation. On the Tab s2 it's like 30fps (just how I feel it is, I dont mean it literally)

I don't think it's lag, it's more data that can't load fast enough.
You're trying to load and move a lot of data and graphics quickly. It looks like it doesn't get preloaded.

This is very noticeable and irritating.

jarayn said:
This is very noticeable and irritating.
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I don't have the S2,but the S1. However of all the browsers I've tried the stock browser handles it best.
It's hardly noticeable on my S1.
Through the play store app it's also hardly noticeable.

Have the Same Problem you experienced. Portrait and landscape Mode