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Froyo Nookie: what works? What is problematic?

Been using this last few days and overall am quite impressed. It is pretty fast, has all that froyo goodness....Flash works though video is still slow and jerky
Have following issues:
YouTube- shows but videos don't play in app
Music- my mp3 which play on autonootered 2.1 don't work.
Statusbar shows no service cell reception icon and lockscreen says no service.
Wifi not always reconnecting from sleep without manually turning off/on.
Anyone else have any of these issues? Any fixes?
What are your pleasant surprises so far?

I think you need to look here.
And here.

BigBadger said:
I think you need to look here.
And here.
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Thanks, I guess. Red all the threads and am reporting my issues and seeing if they really unique to me as most I have mentioned are not discussed,....
mp3 the no service message on lockscreen.....

On YouTube, you may want to look at the "HQ" YouTube thread I started here and detailed a tidbit more in my blog (fineoils.blogspot.com).
Takes a careful deleting a stock youtube.apk.
If it won't work (me, I run simply Auto-Nootered and partially tweaked NC with stock A2.1, and HD YouTube is working just fine) then this is your "usability" at this stage.
You fail to mention Flash 10.1 in your list of problems with Nookie Froyo, does it mean you can watch HQ/HD Flash video already?
Don't get me wrong: the move to Froyo is a great development. But so far, it's more of a proof of a concept. For usability, it may take tons of tweaks and optimizations of Cyanogen class, plus backporting the best features and kernels of Android 2.3

aludal said:
On YouTube, you may want to look at the "HQ" YouTube thread I started here and detailed a tidbit more in my blog (fineoils.blogspot.com).
Takes a careful deleting a stock youtube.apk.
If it won't work (me, I run simply Auto-Nootered and partially tweaked NC with stock A2.1, and HD YouTube is working just fine) then this is your "usability" at this stage.
You fail to mention Flash 10.1 in your list of problems with Nookie Froyo, does it mean you can watch HQ/HD Flash video already?
Don't get me wrong: the move to Froyo is a great development. But so far, it's more of a proof of a concept. For usability, it may take tons of tweaks and optimizations of Cyanogen class, plus backporting the best features and kernels of Android 2.3
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It is beyond proof of concept and 90% works as good or better than 2.1
Flash works. But seeing embedded flash video on some sites the video framerate is slow and jerky. Some sites play well. I suspect the 800 MHz processor and no hardware acceleration are the culprits and so OC to 950-1 ghz and hardware access might make it more useable.
So far I seem to ne the only one stating I can't get mp3 music playing so don't know if this is a known problem.

[q]Changing youtube quality on browser site in CM7

When accessing the browser version of youtube on cm7, I can play 320p and below videos fine, but if I get a 480p video it stutters. When I try to press the button to change the resolution it pops up and disappears almost instantly. Is there a way to set it to 320p as default or a way to get this button to behave? I know dsp is probably a ways off so I'd like to get this working. Thanks.

In case anyone is interested, theres a setting in the youtube account options, but it only lets you set it to the lowest quality.

Go to www.youtube.com/xl . it's a much better version of the site for tablets. You can go from SD to HD with one click. Hope this will work for you while we all wait for hardware acceleration, so we can use the proper youtube app.

Thanks, Why was it possible to have hardware accel in Froyo but not GB? Is it that different?

chadamir said:
Thanks, Why was it possible to have hardware accel in Froyo but not GB? Is it that different?
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If I remember right, it's a driver issue. Like alot of things for the nook, there were never proper drivers put out for froyo and gingerbread. most of them had to be backported I think. Froyo does have hardware acceleration, but I think it's a hacked up driver. That's no knock to the people who made it, I have a great amount of respect for the devs work.

Worth using as a full fledged tablet?

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Recently, my urge to own a tablet as an alternative to using a laptop has grown large. I don't video edit or anything extreme anymore, just wanting something bigger for on the go, So I've looked into recently the craze of the rooted Nook Colors
Leaves me a simple question.
Is it worth buying? For $250-ish, I can't seem to go wrong.
I just don't want to waste money however.
But just a few side questions.
1. When rooted, is it good performance wise, or is it sluggish and laggy, that's a big thing for me. I've watched some videos of it online and at 1.1gHz, it seems to run smoothly but I rather make sure.
2. The difficulty of rooting it? Compared to a phone.
2b. If I were to get it, what's the easiest process?
3. Can I tether internet from my phone to it?
4. Is the web browsing choppy or smooth and does pinch to zoom work correctly
5. Do apps scale well?
5b. Is the market able to be installed and functioning properly?
6. I heard there's wifi problems, if so, does it just vary from user to user?
7. Overall, is it worth it?
So any input would be greatly appreciated.

I Am Marino said:
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Recently, my urge to own a tablet as an alternative to using a laptop has grown large. I don't video edit or anything extreme anymore, just wanting something bigger for on the go, So I've looked into recently the craze of the rooted Nook Colors
Leaves me a simple question.
Is it worth buying? For $250-ish, I can't seem to go wrong.
I just don't want to waste money however.
But just a few side questions.
1. When rooted, is it good performance wise, or is it sluggish and laggy, that's a big thing for me. I've watched some videos of it online and at 1.1gHz, it seems to run smoothly but I rather make sure.
2. The difficulty of rooting it? Compared to a phone.
2b. If I were to get it, what's the easiest process?
3. Can I tether internet from my phone to it?
4. Is the web browsing choppy or smooth and does pinch to zoom work correctly
5. Do apps scale well?
5b. Is the market able to be installed and functioning properly?
6. I heard there's wifi problems, if so, does it just vary from user to user?
7. Overall, is it worth it?
So any input would be greatly appreciated.
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1) Yes, it is very smooth,especially at 1.1. Really,like any android device, you risk lag if you download a stupid amount of apps, but that has nothing to do with this device.
2) Yes it is easy to root; just format the SD card with the directions, and you are set. Then you can install different roms, etc.
3) yes you can tether (do it daily with my incredible).
4)Opera mobile is amazing, since it can use the graphics card on the nook to render the web pages, making it VERY smooth.
5) I have no problems with app scaling. Market works fine on all ROMS (BTW, you may want some research, since you have a number of OS choices for the nook).
6) No wifi problems here
7) Amazingly worth it.... best $250 i have spent in a LONG time..

There are so many threads with the same questions... But to answer your questions...
1. When rooted, is it good performance wise, or is it sluggish and laggy, that's a big thing for me. I've watched some videos of it online and at 1.1gHz, it seems to run smoothly but I rather make sure.
Depends on the rom, Honeycomb is incomplete and because of it; it doesn't run every program perfectly.
CM7 is pretty good at a stable build right now, has bluetooth, but some few are unlucky and find that it doesn't always play nice with their nook. Very small amount of people though.
Stock or Eclair (Android 2.1) runs fine and can be overclocked, just doesn't have bluetooth and won't run newer programs such as FPSE (Psx emulator)
2. The difficulty of rooting it? Compared to a phone.
2b. If I were to get it, what's the easiest process?
As easy as following a couple of instructions (burning an image to an sd card and starting the nook... done)
3. Can I tether internet from my phone to it?
Yes, so long as you have an android phone. Some phones may not work though, so let us know which one just in case.
4. Is the web browsing choppy or smooth and does pinch to zoom work correctly
Opera Mobile takes full advantage of GPU acceleration and web browsing is silky smooth. Pinch to zoom works well on even stock browser or dolphin hd.
5. Do apps scale well?
Some do not depending on the rom. But it's rare and not a problem I run into often on CM7.
5b. Is the market able to be installed and functioning properly?
Yes and yes.
6. I heard there's wifi problems, if so, does it just vary from user to user?
Varies completely by user, most don't have problems, myself included. But, some do.
7. Overall, is it worth it?
Depends... If you like android and want something for light browsing, video watching, games, reading and word processing. Then yes. If you want anything more intensive, then wait for better hardware or get a laptop.
Overall I love my nook color though, it makes a great little tv when me and my wife want to be around eachother, but don't want to watch the same thing. It has a lot of good emulators for video games. Some of the programs are very handy, and it has some pretty addictive games that get me through the day. Size factor, 7" is perfect, and really easy to carry around and whip out when I want or need too. Screen is beautiful! And Chisleu has encoded some pretty awesome videos that demonstrate the Gpu card's best points.
Buy it. Unless you like ipod better than android, then just go buy a Ipad. =\
Did I mention it also doubles as an ebook reader *hint hint* *wink wink* =D, ezpdf reader makes reading pdf's a breeze on this, and even has a page flipping graphic to draw people in around you. Adobe Reader takes advantage of the GPU though and can easily open the most graphic intensive pdfs. =D

On cm7 all works fine.
I usemine as scull tablet
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk

I Am Marino said:
Reposted from Q&A
Recently, my urge to own a tablet as an alternative to using a laptop has grown large. I don't video edit or anything extreme anymore, just wanting something bigger for on the go, So I've looked into recently the craze of the rooted Nook Colors
Leaves me a simple question.
Is it worth buying? For $250-ish, I can't seem to go wrong.
I just don't want to waste money however.
But just a few side questions.
1. When rooted, is it good performance wise, or is it sluggish and laggy, that's a big thing for me. I've watched some videos of it online and at 1.1gHz, it seems to run smoothly but I rather make sure.
2. The difficulty of rooting it? Compared to a phone.
2b. If I were to get it, what's the easiest process?
3. Can I tether internet from my phone to it?
4. Is the web browsing choppy or smooth and does pinch to zoom work correctly
5. Do apps scale well?
5b. Is the market able to be installed and functioning properly?
6. I heard there's wifi problems, if so, does it just vary from user to user?
7. Overall, is it worth it?
So any input would be greatly appreciated.
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1. It depends on what you're doing with it. For basic video viewing and light browsing, its smooth enough on 2.1. Froyo and CM7 (no experience with HC) are smoother than their older sibling, but can't really be considered as truly "smooth" right out of the box. NONE of them are smooth at viewing large PDF files (especially when trying to pinch and zoom), so overclocking is a must if you plan on doing any of that. Honestly, overclocking is a must no matter what you want to do. It simply makes the experience so much more enjoyable. I'm running CM7 overclocked to 1.1 Ghz and I smile every time I pinch and zoom on a website or a PDF. Its that good.
2. A basic root of 2.1 is pretty easy. It will probably take some trial and error, but overall I'd say it requires a moderate level of skill.
2b. If you plan on doing anything other than basic stuff (watching videos and the occasional web surfing), I'd say go CM7 on the internal memory from the get-go. The actual install takes maybe 10 minutes and you're going to get the best functionality and performance without the hassle. CM7 stable lives up to its name.
3. The stock ROM requires an Android phone to tether, but I broadcast from my iPhone 4 with zero issues on Froyo and CM7.
4. See my above gushing about pinching and zooming after overclocking. I use Dolphin HD for my browsing, but Opera Mobile is a nice browser, too.
5. I honestly don't know what this means. If you're asking about how they look on a bigger screen, I have no complaints.
5b. Yes. I've had zero problems with the market on CM7. They even update automatically.
6. WiFi will give you problems sometimes, but refreshing the connection (I have a widget for that) or a quick reboot almost always remedies the problem.
7. Duh. Including the cost of my 32GB SD card, I paid $290 total for mine. It was a little frustrating with the initial struggle of setting it up (WinImage was my problem), but its all good in the hood now, LOL.

So I have to put the image on the SDcard or can I install it somehow to the internal memory?
And for use, it's going to be mostly browsing, app use, moderate use overall, minor video watching, etc.
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Follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
EDIT: A partition program will probably come in handy at some point. I use this: http://download.cnet.com/Easeus-Partition-Master-Home-Edition/3000-2248_4-10863346.html?tag=mncol;1
Its free and it works.

I Am Marino said:
So I have to put the image on the SDcard or can I install it somehow to the internal memory?
And for use, it's going to be mostly browsing, app use, moderate use overall, minor video watching, etc.
Sent from my Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
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Yes the "Auto-Nooter" program unlocks the stock Android software. There are also bootable sd card images with CM7 and honeycomb, should you not want to erase the stock software or mess with it at all.
You don't have to nooter the stock nook though if you just want CM7, with 2 sd cards you can load one up with CWM (Clockword Recovery) and then have the other one containing the CM7 stable or nightly release; along with overclock update.
Which is what I did on my second nook.
No real point in staying on stock android unless you like the Barnes and Nobles features.

I have no plan to stay stock if I end up following through, I'll jump into CM7, anything else I need to know or any other input?

If it doesn't work out of box, return it... It's just not worth it, a lot of nooks right now are in store and defective. Some are little tiny bugs that are okay, others are massive. I decided to try to live with a bug in my old one, and it ended up costing me a huge hassle with india to get them to give me another one.
Normally I really don't mind overseas technical support, but I had a woman run me through troubleshooting and my nook turned off mid "fixing" it and she deemed it fixed and tried to hang up. I then told her it wasn't and she said... oh... let me put you on hold... and then she hung up.
Another thing, some nooks got OEM chargers, and because of it, they don't work well with the nook. If you put your nook on to charge and find the touch screen acting erratic or not letting you type, return it immediately or demand another wire.
Make sure you get a couple of MicroSD cards, as it's always good to have a CWM bootable laying around, I actually hide it in my phone in case I break something on cm7 while i'm out. I can then easily reflash it and get back to it.
If you've never used android before, get titanium backup (the full version) that way you can easily backup your programs.
Bluetooth works, but not from a far distance. So if you're going for it gaming wise, get a wiimote and a classic controller (with wire) so you can give yourself some distance.
The last thing... CM7 is always in development and because of it, it's very easy to spend your whole day flashing new and newer stuff.
As of right now, CM7 uses the kernel .29 which has some issues with deep sleeping and because of it, when your nook is in standby it's usually going to lose about a percentage or two an hour. Stock gets it down to like .2-.5 an hour, but keep in mind these are resting numbers, not actual use numbers.
At this point Dalingrin (who hence forth will be called the Kernel Master) is testing and continually fixing video on CM7. With MoboPlayer (Software decoding mode) I am currently capable of watching a 720p mkv with subtitles.
And others such as Razir, Medline and Chilseu have been making videos to play and push with hardware accelerated videos.
That's it I think.

I'm well aware how to use Android and rooting and flashing ROMs is nothing new to me anymore.
So before I do anything, I should turn it on normally stock and try to charge it just to make sure nothing is funky with it?
As for kernel, I plan to use Dalingrin's so I can OC.

I Am Marino said:
So before I do anything, I should turn it on normally stock and try to charge it just to make sure nothing is funky with it?
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Yep. And go ahead and create a sign in in case you need to get a RMA one day.
Once you know everything is good, then switch to CM7.

poofyhairguy said:
Yep. And go ahead and create a sign in in case you need to get a RMA one day.
Once you know everything is good, then switch to CM7.
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Noted. Thanks.
Still looking for any input.

Then I will answer one question more completely.
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5. Do apps scale well?
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Better than you would imagine. Since Android phones cover an array of resolutions, most programs scale amazing well on the Nook's screen. There are a few that don't work well- a few games that depend on a static image background, or busy programs like ESPN's Scoreboard that are filled in every inch on a phone so the blank spots on the Nook are obvious.
But most games, and other apps scale well.
The best thing you can do is go after tablet specific stuff. For example, Opera mobile is a tablet specific browser. Sign up for the free Swiftkey beta for a tablet keyboard:
http://www.androidcentral.com/swiftkey-tablet-beta-now-available-vip-forum-members
Use all these cool tablet apps ripped off a Notion Ink:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934916&highlight=ink
I never want for official tablet apps Honeycomb has, which is good because most are designed to just run on Tegra machines.
If you want videos, Handbrake is the way. Here is a good preset:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12774132&postcount=4
One other thing I will say- think about a screen protector. I think the anti-reflective ones are downright excellent, and they seem to increase touchscreen responsiveness.

I must say, after watching many youtube videos, how capable this tablet is, it's impressive.

I have NC 3 weeks now..
To see if everathing is ok, I personally made a SD card with CM7 stable+Dalingrin OC (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957) and boot it from there.
It was my first time rooting anything and all went smoothly first time.
I'm satisfied with this config (quadrant 2000+) and have stock B&N internally, browsing works fine, video&tethering I don't do. Didn't have a problem scaling apps or any wi-fi problem.
I only wish, sleep mode would be improved, as i don't use NC everyday and after 3 days of non-use it drains out.
Other than that - perfect buy to do easy browsing, news&book reading, mail checking, game playing..
Hope this piece of info helps you.

I think I'll look into installing it to memory as I have no use for the stock anything.
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"@I Am Marino"
One use you didn't mention much was as an eBook reader - I am surprised how much
I am enjoying the NC as my first eBook reader. ePub fromat works well, PDF so-so.
I use FBreader for ePub and Repligo mainly for PDF.
On PC/MAC/Linux end, Calibre an open source eBook library management tool is great.
http://calibre-ebook.com/
Nook is a fun device, because it boots 'first' from a bootable uSD card, you don't have
to worry about bricking device, so less worry about trying new versions of Android
on it too.
Good luck,
Peter

I don't think I'll have any use for it as an e reader as the only reading I do is non books.
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I definitely recommend this device, it is serving me well.

Degraded Video Playback After 1.2 Update

The developer of DVD Catalyst 4 is reporting a serious degradation in video playback with the 1.2 update. Anyone else experience this?
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com...-2-FAIL/m-p/981754/message-uid/981754#U981754
If this is the case, and the methods discussed for blocking OTA don't work, looks like I'll be joining the legions of CM7 users. Video playback on the NC is a huge draw for me.
Unfortunately looks like I'll need a crash course. Doing some cross country traveling on May 7 and want to have a fully functional, video playback capable NC on that date.

dsf3g said:
The developer of DVD Catalyst 4 is reporting a serious degradation in video playback with the 1.2 update. Anyone else experience this?
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com...-2-FAIL/m-p/981754/message-uid/981754#U981754
If this is the case, and the methods discussed for blocking OTA don't work, looks like I'll be joining the legions of CM7 users. Video playback on the NC is a huge draw for me.
Unfortunately looks like I'll need a crash course. Doing some cross country traveling on May 7 and want to have a fully functional, video playback capable NC on that date.
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Its not really a quality issue, the smoothness of the video playback is affected.
After updating, the videos I already had on my NOOKcolor just looked like frames were being skipped or doubled. Its hard to describe, but they just look "off"
I tried a bunch of different conversion tools and a collection of different settings, and all resulted in similar playback issues, which basically points to an issue with the update rather than the conversion tool used.
I managed to play 3000Kbps h264 video on the NOOKcolor before the update, but now 800Kbps files have playback issues.
Testing youtube produces similar results. While I only played a few trailers from youtube, it appears quality is locked to 360, and even then I get audio sync issues.

I haven't tried the 1.2 update but I did integrate the hardware codecs from 1.2 into to CM7 and saw the same thing. For now I'm sticking with our existing codecs as they perform better.

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I haven't tried the 1.2 update but I did integrate the hardware codecs from 1.2 into to CM7 and saw the same thing. For now I'm sticking with our existing codecs as they perform better.
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some people reported that rebooting seem to fix this?

Canadoc said:
some people reported that rebooting seem to fix this?
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The developer of DVD Catalyst 4 conversion software has posted sample video files that demonstrate the degraded video quality. So I don't think a simple reboot will fix things. If it were that simple, I think he'd have figured it out, since his paychek in part depends upon the Nook Color being a decent platform for watching movies.

Sorry : Wrong Thread.

Mine worked but the selection method is key
My MP4's worked flawlessly with the new update - I ripped them from my own DVD's using DVD Catalyst 4.0 and the setting for Nook Color. BUT, they didn't work using the gallery - I had to select them using the My Files folder in the library app (I have two full length videos on emmc and two on my 8 Gb SD Card (a Transcend Class 6) - either choice worked.

I was looking at the new build.prop just now, and it's specifying a heapsize of 64M.
That seems to be very high to me. If someone's got a rooted 1.2, it might be interesting to see what manipulating the heap does for video playback. I'm still holding off on updating mine.

XBMC works fine on Nook Color

XBMC works fine on my Nook Color, see details here: http://fineoils.blogspot.com

Has anyone got XBMC working? I installed the correct files from the link. After the initial loading screen, I just get a black screen. Using the 1/6/13 nightly. Any help would be appreciated.

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Has anyone got XBMC working? I installed the correct files from the link. After the initial loading screen, I just get a black screen. Using the 1/6/13 nightly. Any help would be appreciated.
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Mine is 1/4/2013, but if it's not later than 1/12/2013 I think it doesn't matter. I also don't use 1100 kernel which was a reason for too much sorrow with apps, especially with 3rd party apps. For the XBMC on Android, there are some self-help forums popping up. Then, a good XBMC installation may take quite a time for online updating of video add-ons at the first start. Mine get stable after maybe 5 minutes. Every second start and launching other (new) add-on (apart from obvious 1Channel) takes more time.
Then, MX Player should be installed and tuned up first. It also should be started and exited prior to launching XBMC.
Then, tons of streams may not be there at a given time, or at all.

XBMC also works fine on my Samsung Galaxy Tab GT-P1010 (WiFi-only model) running Irish Gingerbread. No HW rendering though.

aludal said:
XBMC also works fine on my Samsung Galaxy Tab GT-P1010 (WiFi-only model) running Irish Gingerbread. No HW rendering though.
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Has any of that been integrated into the XMBC nightly, or do your directions still apply for the latest nightlies?

I didn't use XBMC nightlies, I used xbmcandroid.com unofficial build + NEON MX Player of (I think) mid-January. They might have some better builds in their main trunks, but I don't believe these offer anything of HW rendering for TI OMAP3621 as it's above our SoC capabilities once the stream has above 480p resolution or too high bandwidth whatever hits first. Some 720p streams/static files play good enough (22...27 FPS) in SW decoding mode, but that's it, end of a story for poor Nookie.
I might be interested in XBMC-Android + BS Player combos once there will be indications that BS Player can buffer/decode better than MX Player.
TI OMAP3630 in my SGT P1010 is totally equal to Nookie in XBMC handling terms, and there's not a single line of code in GB Android for IVA2 that is replaced with something better in CM10.1 (JB) that I run now in my Nook.