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With all the different roms and different versions I'm getting really confused and which roms can do what.
I've tried phiremod v2 and cm7 nightlies and the youtube app doesn't work at all in either. Youtube in the browser I couldn't get to work in phiremod v2. I can watch youtube if I change my user agent to desktop with cm7 nightly but it's choppy.
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?
This is not an answer to your question -
But if the widespread rumors are correct, then the B&N Stock NC will be updated to 2.2 with Flash by the end of the month, and then if you root that, you will be able to sideload Youtube App for Froyo to that. In fact, the update is supposed to include a B&N Market, and one would expect B&N to have all the Free Google Apps in their Market at startup. (But that's just speculation.)
Flash Player 10.2 working for me
I downloaded Flash Player 10.2 earlier today and it installed and works much better. I am running Phiremod 4.1. I got the APK from: freewarelovers(dot)com/android/app/adobe-flash-player
It's important to remember that Flash is an application framework that can deliver video among MANY other things. If you're looking for a FLV video player, then the performance still is not here: it requires hardware support and we don't have the drivers yet.
BUT, if you want to play games and use interactive websites written in Flash, then try out 10.2. It is WAY more functional.
Interesting. Are you saying that there are no roms with smooth playing flash video? It seems odd to me that everybody is so happy with these roms when they can't watch any flash video smoothly.
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Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?
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To specifically answer your question, smooth video is supported in Eclair (the native Nook rooted ROM) and, I think, it plays acceptably in Froyo; although I could be mistaken.
A lot depends on the size/quality of the video; standard definition (640x480) should play acceptably well in either of those OS versions. Higher definition may stall from time to time.
Gingerbread 2.3 (CM7, etc) still does not have working drivers for the hardware assist features of the chipset, and hardware assist is essential to smooth video playback.
Here are the specs on Nook Color CPU/GPU (from Androidtablets.net):
CPU Processor: ARM Cortex A8-based Ti OMAP 3621 @ 800 MHz (same processor as Droid 2 and Droid X)
GPU Processor: PowerVR SGX530 Graphics Rendering: Open GLES1.1/2.0 Hardware Scaling: 854x480 scaled to 1024x600 Video Formats: .3GP, .MP4, .3G2 ** Video Codecs: H.263, H.264, MPEG-4, ON2 VP7 ** Image Formats: JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP ** (same GPU as Droid 2 and Droid X)
As you can see, the GPU can support a native resolution of 854 x 480 (which is scaled in hardware to 1024 x 600); H.264/MPEG4 video (which FLV is a kind of) can be decoded in the hardware with the appropriate drivers. At present, all the players have to do this through software, which frankly is beyond the capability of the CPU at 800 MHz or even overclocked at 1.1 GHz.
We need to be patient; those hardware drivers will come.
Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
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I am not sure whether the Froyo rom can play video smoothly. It does on Droid and other phones, so I would guess those drivers have been tried out. I had Froyo on my Nook Color for a while, but frankly can't remember how the video was.
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So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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It depends on what you need/want. For me, the text handling of Froyo was awful. I have a HTC EVO 4G (with Sense UI on top of native Froyo). On my phone, I can type pretty effectively. The user dictionary is fast and smart and if I make a mistake, I have an arrows-equipped keyboard to move the cursor to the text I want to correct and fix it.
Froyo (Android 2.2) on both my Nook Color and my Viewsonic G-Tablet were nothing like my Evo. The keyboard often got what I typed wrong and when I tried to set a cursor to make a correction, it would end up one letter off. I tried out a bunch of keyboards - some with arrows - and had an OK Froyo-based system, but as soon as a decent Gingerbread-based ROM came along (and Phiremod's is EXCELLENT!), I went with that.
In Gingerbread, you have a much more accurate keyboard and dictionary lookup. The keyboard still doesn't have arrows, but you have a very nice cursor positioning tool, plus the ability to select a little or a lot of text and copy/paste it anywhere throughout the system.
But, as you note, certain of the multimedia features aren't there yet. Since I use my tablets more as very handy computers and less as multimedia entertainment systems, the choice was pretty straightforward for me. I can wait a few weeks for video playback.
And, frankly, the reason a lot of people get excited about roms - and having lots of different roms - is because they are fun in and of themselves. They like to tinker. And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
But your mileage will certainly vary. If high definition is a deal breaker for you, you may find the Nook ultimately inadequate even when the Gingerbread drivers (and eventually Honeycomb drivers) come out. There's only so much power under this hood. A tablet based on Tegra 2 (like the Viewsonic G-Tablet or Xoom) may be more what you're looking for. With the right drivers, though, we should get perfectly acceptable 480p playback.
glg
The rom you are looking for is nookiefroyo. I have great YouTube playback in app including high quality. In browser 360p plays fine, but anything above that is choppy.
I also have tested other flash websites. CNN was perfect, as was megavideo.
I purchase my nook a few days ago and thus far nookie froyo looks to be the latest and most complete rom out. That plus the softkey theme I installed and the honeycomb keyboard makes this tablet a force to be reckoned with. I might even have to post a video soon because I'm so amazed atnhow well this thing runs.
I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.
Just a little notice, YouTube app doesn't use Flash for playback, it grabs MP4 version of a video stream, which is meant to play on mobile devices.
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I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.
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As in audio and video actually work smoothly (and are in sync)? What version of CM7 are you on?
I would like to know as well.
I'm on the latest CM7 Nightly and just installed the OC kernel. Youtube videos at 360p are playing ok now, but the audio is out of sync.
I might have to give Nookie Froyo another try. Interesting that the Youtube app works so well for you. I could have sworn that I would just get an error every time I tried to play anything.
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Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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Eclair does hardware video decoding but no flash. Froyo and cm7 both do flash and froyo has you tube and video harddware support. However froyo for me at least has buggy wifi and screen of death issues which made it non viable for me. Hope this helps.
From Nook Color dual boot with CM7
That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.
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That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.
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Agreed I had thought froyo would be best compromise as it was fast had dsp and flash working, but the sleep of death and wifi connection issues led me to rebooting the thing many times/day which was a real pain.
For now I have a dual boot setup (see thread in development forum) So that I boot into eclair or CM7. This way I do most of my activities in or other rom and reboot into the other when I need say to watch a video or use stock B&N reader.....
Another thing I haven't really thought about. How does battery life compare between the roms? I seem to remember comments here and there about CM7 roms having worse battery life than froyo or stock.
I would suggest to those trying Nookie Froyo on eMMC now to try the kernel posted in post #770 of the Dalingrin kernel thread on the development forum. For myself and several others this kernel is solid and yields no wake or wifi issues whatsoever. Until a more stable interactive govenor kernel is developed this is the one I'll stick with.
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And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
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Indeed. I'm a nooknoob but long time techie and am brimming with questions. Is that quote accurate -- that reverting to "factory fresh" state can be as simply as removing your SD card? (Because that's not the impression I've been getting; I thought you needed to do the 8 failed boots thing and/or reload ROMs.)
Hmm, guess not. I just noticed the thread titled "[HOW-TO] : Restore Nook Color back to stock EASILY".
I believe you can run most of the roms from the sd card without modifying the internal system. I don't know if you can do it without rooting though. You might have to root, then you an try roms on sd card. Someone else will have to confirm that or tell me I'm wrong , as I've not tried any of the sd card versions.
The developer of DVD Catalyst 4 is reporting a serious degradation in video playback with the 1.2 update. Anyone else experience this?
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com...-2-FAIL/m-p/981754/message-uid/981754#U981754
If this is the case, and the methods discussed for blocking OTA don't work, looks like I'll be joining the legions of CM7 users. Video playback on the NC is a huge draw for me.
Unfortunately looks like I'll need a crash course. Doing some cross country traveling on May 7 and want to have a fully functional, video playback capable NC on that date.
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The developer of DVD Catalyst 4 is reporting a serious degradation in video playback with the 1.2 update. Anyone else experience this?
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com...-2-FAIL/m-p/981754/message-uid/981754#U981754
If this is the case, and the methods discussed for blocking OTA don't work, looks like I'll be joining the legions of CM7 users. Video playback on the NC is a huge draw for me.
Unfortunately looks like I'll need a crash course. Doing some cross country traveling on May 7 and want to have a fully functional, video playback capable NC on that date.
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Its not really a quality issue, the smoothness of the video playback is affected.
After updating, the videos I already had on my NOOKcolor just looked like frames were being skipped or doubled. Its hard to describe, but they just look "off"
I tried a bunch of different conversion tools and a collection of different settings, and all resulted in similar playback issues, which basically points to an issue with the update rather than the conversion tool used.
I managed to play 3000Kbps h264 video on the NOOKcolor before the update, but now 800Kbps files have playback issues.
Testing youtube produces similar results. While I only played a few trailers from youtube, it appears quality is locked to 360, and even then I get audio sync issues.
I haven't tried the 1.2 update but I did integrate the hardware codecs from 1.2 into to CM7 and saw the same thing. For now I'm sticking with our existing codecs as they perform better.
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I haven't tried the 1.2 update but I did integrate the hardware codecs from 1.2 into to CM7 and saw the same thing. For now I'm sticking with our existing codecs as they perform better.
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some people reported that rebooting seem to fix this?
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some people reported that rebooting seem to fix this?
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The developer of DVD Catalyst 4 conversion software has posted sample video files that demonstrate the degraded video quality. So I don't think a simple reboot will fix things. If it were that simple, I think he'd have figured it out, since his paychek in part depends upon the Nook Color being a decent platform for watching movies.
Sorry : Wrong Thread.
Mine worked but the selection method is key
My MP4's worked flawlessly with the new update - I ripped them from my own DVD's using DVD Catalyst 4.0 and the setting for Nook Color. BUT, they didn't work using the gallery - I had to select them using the My Files folder in the library app (I have two full length videos on emmc and two on my 8 Gb SD Card (a Transcend Class 6) - either choice worked.
I was looking at the new build.prop just now, and it's specifying a heapsize of 64M.
That seems to be very high to me. If someone's got a rooted 1.2, it might be interesting to see what manipulating the heap does for video playback. I'm still holding off on updating mine.
Do you guys think it will be possible for the devs to put a good fully working flashplayer into the various ROMs? Hoping for some full on flashplayer love on CM7 or Honeycomb V4 2nd ed.
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Flash has been working on CM7 for some time.. eesssh..
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/facepalm
Flash has been working on CM7 for some time.. eesssh..
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facepalm is right!
LOL !!!
For some reason I really like this thread
dalingrin has already said that the B&N Flash won't be included in official CM7. The Honeycomb demo (that is all we basically have) doesn't have fully working DSP like CM7 has so it doesn't benefit from this release.
With that said, I am sure someone will make a CM7 ROM with it included eventually.
Yeah, and from what I can tell, there's nothing special about B&N's flash vs the 10.2 in the Market. Then again, I don't like flash for many things on the NC, so maybe I am missing the differences. It is pretty heavy on CPU cycles. I don't deny others the opportunity like Lord Steve though.
What is special about the stock flash player vs CM7?
The 1.2 version of flashplayer has dsp decoding enabled for some video content which should improve video performance. You can extract it from the 1.2 update zip on BN.com
As already stated CM7 has always had flash support. While B&N flash can be used in CM7, it has limited benefits. B&N flash on 1.2 Froyo and CM7 does have DSP support for videos "Optimized for mobile." Unfortunately, videos that are optimized for mobile seem limited to mostly YouTube.com where you'd be better off using the YouTube app anyway. For videos that are not optimized for mobile, the newer Flash 10.2 from the market is better.
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As already stated CM7 has always had flash support. While B&N flash can be used in CM7, it has limited benefits. B&N flash on 1.2 Froyo and CM7 does have DSP support for videos "Optimized for mobile." Unfortunately, videos that are optimized for mobile seem limited to mostly YouTube.com where you'd be better off using the YouTube app anyway. For videos that are not optimized for mobile, the newer Flash 10.2 from the market is better.
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This is good to know! I noticed from sites like crackle Dolphin mini set to desktop says "This video is not optimized for mobile". So 10.2 flash with Hulu fix would be best here. Dolphin mini set to Desktop seems to play crackle well with the flash based on B&N 1.2 Froyo and Hulu fix where Opera Mobile video freezes but audio continues until I sync it. The Opera Mobile browser at crackle does not say "This video is not optimized for mobile".
When using the flash based on B&N 1.2 Froyo with the Hulu fix in Opera Mobile at the Hulu website, it does not say "This video is not optimized for mobile". Now part of the Hulu fix is to make the browser look like window/mac desktop. We also throttle the file to 288p thru settings. Do you think B&N 1.2 Froyo flash might be better here? My guess is not, it is only Opera Mobile being made to look like window/mac desktop, not hardware acceleration dsp. Dolphin mini will not play the Hulu site.
I am using the Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so for both 1.2 Froyo update and 10.2 flash. I wonder if that has any bearings? Could this actually negate the dsp acceleration of of B&N update for optimized mobile videos? I think it is modified from 10.2 version of flash. I justed loaded video from youtube website. In Dolphin mini and Opera Mobile they did not appear to have dsp acceleration. When played from YouTube app they were much better. I am going to reboot and play video's again. This will negate the Hulu flash fix and restore 1.2 Froyo update.
With the Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so and all browsers it is hard to know what is best or a method to test them all out with? To complicated matters I also have a motorola xoom bluetooth keyboard. At least I can turn bluetooth off.
What I learned.
How to optimize use of Flash 10.1 from B&N 1.2 Froyo, Flash 10.2 from Market, Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so, Opera Mobile and Dolphin Mini in CM7, specifically phiremod V6.1 OC 1300 with 4/23 kernel set at interactive 1300/300.
From Dal: "...B&N flash on 1.2 Froyo and CM7 does have DSP support for videos "Optimized for mobile." Unfortunately, videos that are optimized for mobile seem limited to mostly YouTube.com where you'd be better off using the YouTube app anyway. For videos that are not optimized for mobile, the newer Flash 10.2 from the market is better."
Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so can be used in 10.1 and 10.2 versions of flash.
1) In 10.1 it negates the DSP support for videos "Optimized for mobile." at sites like youtube, and makes sites like crackle perform like it had 10.2 version of flash.
2) In 10.2 it allows Opera Mobile to play back Hulu videos on the nook. Can be used with Dolphin mini as well (see edit at end of post). For ease of use at all flash sites I recommend Opera Mobile for Hulu style sites and Dolphi mini for non Hulu style sites.
Conclusion: Install 10.2 and Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so. Tweak Opera Mobile for Hulu. Redo install of Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so on each reboot. Use Dolphin min for all flash video playback at sites like crackle, cnn, etc. Sites like Hulu, Espn3, and others where flash video playback is blocked, use tweaked Opera Mobile. Opera Mobile makes these site look like it is a desktop window/mac. Use YouTube app for playback of videos at the YouTube.com website. Flash will appear to be smooth in all of the above situations.
Edit: I can now make Dolphin min work for Hulu style sites as well. But it is more functional to have one browser for Hulu style sites and one browser for other flash sites then to switch the setting in Dolphin min.
See this post for making Dolphin work for Hulu. Some details: Hit Menu - Toolbox - Settings. Uncheck Load images. Under Advanced settings - Enable plug-ins - change to Always on. Under Menu - Toolbox - User Agent Check Desktop (I use this last setting for both the Hulu and all non Hulu style flash sites).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13063918&postcount=33
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Conclusion: Install 10.2 and Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so. Tweak Opera Mobile for Hulu. Redo install of Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so on each reboot. Use Dolphin min for all flash video playback at sites like crackle, cnn, etc. Sites like Hulu, Espn3, and others where flash video playback is blocked, use tweaked Opera Mobile. Opera Mobile makes these site look like it is a desktop window/mac. Use YouTube app for playback of videos at the YouTube.com website. Flash will appear to be smooth in all of the above situations.
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Thanks for the conclusion part of your post as that help clarify for me what content to run on what browser. However, and someone please correct me if I remember incorrectly, hasn't the Hulu libflashplayer.so fix been baked into the nightlies for some time now? Just don't want people (myself included) constantly updating something unnecessarily.
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Do you guys think it will be possible for the devs to put a good fully working flashplayer into the various ROMs? Hoping for some full on flashplayer love on CM7 or Honeycomb V4 2nd ed.
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Seconded, its very disappointing that these devs cant get a single thing to function properly.
:-D
Jiggity Janx said:
Thanks for the conclusion part of your post as that help clarify for me what content to run on what browser. However, and someone please correct me if I remember incorrectly, hasn't the Hulu libflashplayer.so fix been baked into the nightlies for some time now? Just don't want people (myself included) constantly updating something unnecessarily.
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I was running the nightlies from a sd card and phiremod's version from emmc. Once cm7 and phiremod V6.1 got video working smoothly, I loaded a 16gb SanDisk SD card with lots of music and transcoded movies. So I no longer run the nightlies.
Phiremod V6.1 is based on a fairly recent cm7. To make it work with hulu I had to manually load the Hulu libflashplayer.so fix, install Opera Mobile, and tweak it configuration to get it to look like a window/mac desktop. Every time I reboot Hulu's website videos no longer work as the adobe flash player reinstalls its version of libflashplayer.so. When I change this file back to the Hulu version they work again. So unless the nightlies have a tweaked Opera Mobile and a script to replace libflashplayer.so after flash initialize the directory on reboot their is no way it can play flash videos at Hulu website. Most other flash website will play correctly. Maybe that is where people are thinking that the hulu version is baked in. Espn3 and some of the network sites are other places where flash videos only work with the Hulu modifications.
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Seconded, its very disappointing that these devs cant get a single thing to function properly.
:-D
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For cm7 at least, it is Adobe and Hulu who are blocking some flash sites. The developers are amazing here as they have hardware acceleration working better then the B&N update 1.2 froyo has. They have better codecs, better acceleration, and have figured out ways to get the block sites to play. Plus they talk to us through the forums. I really appreciate their efforts and think most people here would agree.
It you want to make B&N flash froyo better you could take the libflashplayer.so hulu fix and replace it in a newly rooted version of the updated stock software(actually they are working on it). It would get rid of the chopiness that their 10.1 Adobe FlashPlayer has. I found this for now
"It's not a full root. But it does allow you to side-load some applications."
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1051235
It would be necessary to side Load something like File Expert to make changes to move the hulu libflashplayer.so to their com.adobe.flashplayer/lib directory and set the correct permissions.
Jiggity Janx said:
Thanks for the conclusion part of your post as that help clarify for me what content to run on what browser. However, and someone please correct me if I remember incorrectly, hasn't the Hulu libflashplayer.so fix been baked into the nightlies for some time now? Just don't want people (myself included) constantly updating something unnecessarily.
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Okay, using my hack (see sig), hulu works for both 10.1 and 10.2. 10.2 seems better (by just a little bit).
john10101 said:
Seconded, its very disappointing that these devs cant get a single thing to function properly.
:-D
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This was a joke btw, i cant say enough good things about the devs here and all the work that has been done in the nook. Im extremely happy i made the purchase, i could not ask for a better tablet.
Doh! My bad, I haven't looked into the issue since HC V4 2nd ed. I read at the time that flash wouldn't be on the NC because of a missing driver, so my thinking was that the B&N flash would perhaps allow for extracting the needed files to get it in other roms. I put CM7.0.2 on an sd card last night and WOW, I can't believe I didn't do it sooner, lol. Screw that unstable no app working HC preview, lol.
I was curious if anyone has problems playing the vids on youtube that are HQ. If I turn off the HQ for the the vid then it plays no problem.
When I leave it on, a msg from the app displays just saying there was a problem playing your video please retry.
I've experienced this only in one other app recently released by funimation.
Hulu and netflix work fine for me. I have tried a multitude of roms to see if its linked to specific ones.
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I was curious if anyone has problems playing the vids on youtube that are HQ. If I turn off the HQ for the the vid then it plays no problem.
When I leave it on, a msg from the app displays just saying there was a problem playing your video please retry.
I've experienced this only in one other app recently released by funimation.
Hulu and netflix work fine for me. I have tried a multitude of roms to see if its linked to specific ones.
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Question has been asked a million times . Anyways here's your answer, you need to use an older version of the youtube app for HQ to work. AFAIK the last working version is 2.1.6. Happy youtubing!
I have seen this a million times as well. But I never really paid any attention because I didn't care.
But yesterday I was testing some system app mods, so I ended up downloading YouTube from the market. HQ videos were playing for me.
I guess that's unusual or whatever. Maybe they weren't really HQ quality, I don't know. But they were playing.
Me and the kid watched funny cat videos for over an hour.
Non-opengl, no system mods that would matter.
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I have seen this a million times as well. But I never really paid any attention because I didn't care.
But yesterday I was testing some system app mods, so I ended up downloading YouTube from the market. HQ videos were playing for me.
I guess that's unusual or whatever. Maybe they weren't really HQ quality, I don't know. But they were playing.
Me and the kid watched funny cat videos for over an hour.
Non-opengl, no system mods that would matter.
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That's interesting, what rom are you using?
Could you try it out again and report back?
I was afraid it was something app related. Its not a big deal. Was mostly curious as well as seeing if I could do some tweak to get the funimation app to work as well. Thanks for the help!
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For those of us who want to use the older version until things get fixed or worked around in the roms, how can I hide the older apk from the market so I don't get spammed all the time to update?
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For those of us who want to use the older version until things get fixed or worked around in the roms, how can I hide the older apk from the market so I don't get spammed all the time to update?
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk
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Go to settings in market/play store and tell it to not notify you of any updates.
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That's interesting, what rom are you using?
Could you try it out again and report back?
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Okay, well I had flashed a couple of times since I posted that, and when I went to try it again, it didn't work. I knew I wasn't wrong the other day, so I reflashed what I thought I had been running before, and now the HQ videos are working with the current market YouTube.
The change between working and not working was I didn't flash the "take1" kernel like I had before.
So this is the setup. I am running a straight build from source, without opengl. I built it myself, but that shouldn't matter. It was built on April 8th, and comes with the standard kernel (no NAT filter or any of the new commits.)
The only difference between mine and the eyeballers (not counting any cherry-picking he may be doing) is that I compiled in a port of PDroid. There are some changes to some system apps, but I don't think that would matter.
Basically, anyone running a straight flash of eyeballer's April 8 build should have the same ability to run the videos with the HQ button on or off. I will not swear they are true HQ videos, I don't know that for certain. But the videos run either way.
EDIT: Let me know if anyone else has this working. I don't know much about YouTube or the whole HQ/HD thing and may be losing my mind.
I thought I had isolated the problem to a gapp, but now am not so sure. I will test again if no one else can get these working. I have uninstalled and reinstalled a bunch of stuff, and don't want to keep doing it if everyone can see HQ with the above setup.
Maybe everyone can in any setup and only the few people on this thread haven't realized it yet. idk.
mateorod said:
Okay, well I had flashed a couple of times since I posted that, and when I went to try it again, it didn't work. I knew I wasn't wrong the other day,....
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Ah I see you are using a CM9 build. There might be something to that. I'm on CM7.2 . Maybe in CM9 it got fixed somehow.
I thought it was working in cm7 as well. Maybe it was just a modded app though, which is no better than an older apk.
Well, unless someone with cm9 tells me it's unique, I will just assume everyone has it working. They probably do, I have never looked at it before I saw this thread the other day.
mateorod said:
Basically, anyone running a straight flash of eyeballer's April 8 build should have the same ability to run the videos with the HQ button on or off. I will not swear they are true HQ videos, I don't know that for certain. But the videos run either way.
EDIT: Let me know if anyone else has this working. I don't know much about YouTube or the whole HQ/HD thing and may be losing my mind.
I thought I had isolated the problem to a gapp, but now am not so sure. I will test again if no one else can get these working. I have uninstalled and reinstalled a bunch of stuff, and don't want to keep doing it if everyone can see HQ with the above setup.
Maybe everyone can in any setup and only the few people on this thread haven't realized it yet. idk.
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My experience has been that HQ sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. I believe it is due to the actual quality of the video being played. For non-HD videos the HQ is lit up and the movie loads and plays fine. For HD videos that are actually HD you get the error message and have to uncheck HQ to get the video to play.
I have had this experience in several different configurations:
eyeballer's opengl builds, original kernel
eyeballer's opengl builds, updated kernel
eyeballer's opengl 4.9, updated kernel take 2 (current setup)
I would like to know if others have the same experience with "HQ" working for what seem to be non-HD videos and not working when the video actually appears to be HD.
JP
Hi,
I've got a problem with the last few seconds of audio missing at the end of YouTube videos.
I'm using Flash version 11.1.111.43, the last one available for CM7.2. The CM7 is edowar's from a while back, with kernel 2.6.32.9.
The audio is missing during the first playback of the video. But if I then rewind the video and play the last few seconds again, the audio plays as normal.
It happens with all the browsers I've tried, including Dolphin, Opera Mobile, and the stock browser.
Please could someone provide a solution. I'd rather not upgrade to CM10 as I'm happy with the setup on this phone. But I watch YouTube videos a lot, and having to rewind the last few seconds each time is becoming tedious, so if I have to upgrade to CM10, I will. Ideally, I would just like to alter Flash in some way.
Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
Regards,
Jacko
If anyone is still using edowar's CM7.2, or indeed any CM7.2, please could you check a short YouTube video in your web browser, using a desktop user agent, and let me know if there is audio all the way to end?
This would help me to know whether or not there is something wrong with my setup.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Jacko
Well, at least I've learned that I'm the only one still watching YouTube on CM7.2.
I hope the gains from CM10 have been worth it for those of you who have upgraded, such as it being faster, more stable, and perhaps even that the FM radio and HDMI work.
Personally, I have always doubted that this phone could handle anything heavier than CM7 (which it only just manages to do with selective use of Autorun Manager, or something similar).
Or, I could just be in the wrong forum. But asking either Google or Adobe about a non-supported operating system running on an old, unpopular device, just doesn't seem worthwhile.
Anyway, I'm off now to kill this browser process and clear the various caches, before I crank up Aqua Mail to wade through some spam.
See you all later,
Jacko
Your not the only one using cm7.2 as am also a big fan. Most of us don't come here often, hence the delay in replying.
Well currently am using cm7.2 blackace by gundul which is ultra stable n fast with efficient multitasking capabilities.
It was also ported from edowar I think cos it came with his kernel as default.
You could give it a try, I can guarantee you that that Rom is the best in this forum so far.
Also u could try abens cm7.2 kernel to over come sod. Also CKs new kernel rocks this Rom really well.
Hope you find all these info useful.
Thanks for the reply. Whilst I appreciate it, my question was about YouTube and the Flash plugin cutting off the the last few seconds of audio on CM7, rather than which other CM7 ROMs I could change to.
Are you saying that audio does not stop early at the end of YouTube videos on your CM7 ROM?
If audio plays all the way to the end for you, which version of the Flash plugin are you using? You can find this out at http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
Your post on other CM7 ROMs may still be useful if I do have to change my ROM. But I would rather not go to the trouble unless I was sure that it would solve my YouTube audio problem.
Regards,
Jacko
many of my friends love this rom, so I made another improvement :beer:
Sent from my HTC DESIRE HD using xda app-developers app
If anyone else wishes to ignore my original question and instead talk about different CM7 ROMs, then go for it.
But I would rather talk about audio with the Flash plugin and YouTube on CM7, if you don't mind.
Thanks,
Jacko
jacko9000 said:
If anyone else wishes to ignore my original question and instead talk about different CM7 ROMs, then go for it.
But I would rather talk about audio with the Flash plugin and YouTube on CM7, if you don't mind.
Thanks,
Jacko
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if your rom have problems..very difficult to fixed . because they have to learn about android rom and not just from the flash player,youtube and other 3rd party apps..
i like master edowar rom... need more times and more peoples to tes rom problems.. you can join in development to improve your rom.
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All I wanted was for someone to confirm whether or not the audio plays all the way to the end of YouTube videos in CM7.
Can someone with CM7 please try a YouTube video and tell me if the audio plays all the way to the end, or if it stops a few seconds early?
You don't have to tell me how to fix it, but PLEASE can you just test ONE YouTube video.
Thanks,
Jacko