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Froyo Nookie: what works? What is problematic?

Been using this last few days and overall am quite impressed. It is pretty fast, has all that froyo goodness....Flash works though video is still slow and jerky
Have following issues:
YouTube- shows but videos don't play in app
Music- my mp3 which play on autonootered 2.1 don't work.
Statusbar shows no service cell reception icon and lockscreen says no service.
Wifi not always reconnecting from sleep without manually turning off/on.
Anyone else have any of these issues? Any fixes?
What are your pleasant surprises so far?

I think you need to look here.
And here.

BigBadger said:
I think you need to look here.
And here.
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Thanks, I guess. Red all the threads and am reporting my issues and seeing if they really unique to me as most I have mentioned are not discussed,....
mp3 the no service message on lockscreen.....

On YouTube, you may want to look at the "HQ" YouTube thread I started here and detailed a tidbit more in my blog (fineoils.blogspot.com).
Takes a careful deleting a stock youtube.apk.
If it won't work (me, I run simply Auto-Nootered and partially tweaked NC with stock A2.1, and HD YouTube is working just fine) then this is your "usability" at this stage.
You fail to mention Flash 10.1 in your list of problems with Nookie Froyo, does it mean you can watch HQ/HD Flash video already?
Don't get me wrong: the move to Froyo is a great development. But so far, it's more of a proof of a concept. For usability, it may take tons of tweaks and optimizations of Cyanogen class, plus backporting the best features and kernels of Android 2.3

aludal said:
On YouTube, you may want to look at the "HQ" YouTube thread I started here and detailed a tidbit more in my blog (fineoils.blogspot.com).
Takes a careful deleting a stock youtube.apk.
If it won't work (me, I run simply Auto-Nootered and partially tweaked NC with stock A2.1, and HD YouTube is working just fine) then this is your "usability" at this stage.
You fail to mention Flash 10.1 in your list of problems with Nookie Froyo, does it mean you can watch HQ/HD Flash video already?
Don't get me wrong: the move to Froyo is a great development. But so far, it's more of a proof of a concept. For usability, it may take tons of tweaks and optimizations of Cyanogen class, plus backporting the best features and kernels of Android 2.3
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It is beyond proof of concept and 90% works as good or better than 2.1
Flash works. But seeing embedded flash video on some sites the video framerate is slow and jerky. Some sites play well. I suspect the 800 MHz processor and no hardware acceleration are the culprits and so OC to 950-1 ghz and hardware access might make it more useable.
So far I seem to ne the only one stating I can't get mp3 music playing so don't know if this is a known problem.

Is there a rom with smooth working flash and youtube?

With all the different roms and different versions I'm getting really confused and which roms can do what.
I've tried phiremod v2 and cm7 nightlies and the youtube app doesn't work at all in either. Youtube in the browser I couldn't get to work in phiremod v2. I can watch youtube if I change my user agent to desktop with cm7 nightly but it's choppy.
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?

This is not an answer to your question -
But if the widespread rumors are correct, then the B&N Stock NC will be updated to 2.2 with Flash by the end of the month, and then if you root that, you will be able to sideload Youtube App for Froyo to that. In fact, the update is supposed to include a B&N Market, and one would expect B&N to have all the Free Google Apps in their Market at startup. (But that's just speculation.)

Flash Player 10.2 working for me
I downloaded Flash Player 10.2 earlier today and it installed and works much better. I am running Phiremod 4.1. I got the APK from: freewarelovers(dot)com/android/app/adobe-flash-player
It's important to remember that Flash is an application framework that can deliver video among MANY other things. If you're looking for a FLV video player, then the performance still is not here: it requires hardware support and we don't have the drivers yet.
BUT, if you want to play games and use interactive websites written in Flash, then try out 10.2. It is WAY more functional.

Interesting. Are you saying that there are no roms with smooth playing flash video? It seems odd to me that everybody is so happy with these roms when they can't watch any flash video smoothly.

flammenwurfer said:
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?
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To specifically answer your question, smooth video is supported in Eclair (the native Nook rooted ROM) and, I think, it plays acceptably in Froyo; although I could be mistaken.
A lot depends on the size/quality of the video; standard definition (640x480) should play acceptably well in either of those OS versions. Higher definition may stall from time to time.
Gingerbread 2.3 (CM7, etc) still does not have working drivers for the hardware assist features of the chipset, and hardware assist is essential to smooth video playback.
Here are the specs on Nook Color CPU/GPU (from Androidtablets.net):
CPU Processor: ARM Cortex A8-based Ti OMAP 3621 @ 800 MHz (same processor as Droid 2 and Droid X)
GPU Processor: PowerVR SGX530 Graphics Rendering: Open GLES1.1/2.0 Hardware Scaling: 854x480 scaled to 1024x600 Video Formats: .3GP, .MP4, .3G2 ** Video Codecs: H.263, H.264, MPEG-4, ON2 VP7 ** Image Formats: JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP ** (same GPU as Droid 2 and Droid X)​
As you can see, the GPU can support a native resolution of 854 x 480 (which is scaled in hardware to 1024 x 600); H.264/MPEG4 video (which FLV is a kind of) can be decoded in the hardware with the appropriate drivers. At present, all the players have to do this through software, which frankly is beyond the capability of the CPU at 800 MHz or even overclocked at 1.1 GHz.
We need to be patient; those hardware drivers will come.

Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?

flammenwurfer said:
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
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I am not sure whether the Froyo rom can play video smoothly. It does on Droid and other phones, so I would guess those drivers have been tried out. I had Froyo on my Nook Color for a while, but frankly can't remember how the video was.
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So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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It depends on what you need/want. For me, the text handling of Froyo was awful. I have a HTC EVO 4G (with Sense UI on top of native Froyo). On my phone, I can type pretty effectively. The user dictionary is fast and smart and if I make a mistake, I have an arrows-equipped keyboard to move the cursor to the text I want to correct and fix it.
Froyo (Android 2.2) on both my Nook Color and my Viewsonic G-Tablet were nothing like my Evo. The keyboard often got what I typed wrong and when I tried to set a cursor to make a correction, it would end up one letter off. I tried out a bunch of keyboards - some with arrows - and had an OK Froyo-based system, but as soon as a decent Gingerbread-based ROM came along (and Phiremod's is EXCELLENT!), I went with that.
In Gingerbread, you have a much more accurate keyboard and dictionary lookup. The keyboard still doesn't have arrows, but you have a very nice cursor positioning tool, plus the ability to select a little or a lot of text and copy/paste it anywhere throughout the system.
But, as you note, certain of the multimedia features aren't there yet. Since I use my tablets more as very handy computers and less as multimedia entertainment systems, the choice was pretty straightforward for me. I can wait a few weeks for video playback.
And, frankly, the reason a lot of people get excited about roms - and having lots of different roms - is because they are fun in and of themselves. They like to tinker. And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
But your mileage will certainly vary. If high definition is a deal breaker for you, you may find the Nook ultimately inadequate even when the Gingerbread drivers (and eventually Honeycomb drivers) come out. There's only so much power under this hood. A tablet based on Tegra 2 (like the Viewsonic G-Tablet or Xoom) may be more what you're looking for. With the right drivers, though, we should get perfectly acceptable 480p playback.
glg

The rom you are looking for is nookiefroyo. I have great YouTube playback in app including high quality. In browser 360p plays fine, but anything above that is choppy.
I also have tested other flash websites. CNN was perfect, as was megavideo.
I purchase my nook a few days ago and thus far nookie froyo looks to be the latest and most complete rom out. That plus the softkey theme I installed and the honeycomb keyboard makes this tablet a force to be reckoned with. I might even have to post a video soon because I'm so amazed atnhow well this thing runs.

I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.

Just a little notice, YouTube app doesn't use Flash for playback, it grabs MP4 version of a video stream, which is meant to play on mobile devices.

JLCollier2005 said:
I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.
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As in audio and video actually work smoothly (and are in sync)? What version of CM7 are you on?

I would like to know as well.
I'm on the latest CM7 Nightly and just installed the OC kernel. Youtube videos at 360p are playing ok now, but the audio is out of sync.
I might have to give Nookie Froyo another try. Interesting that the Youtube app works so well for you. I could have sworn that I would just get an error every time I tried to play anything.

flammenwurfer said:
Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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Eclair does hardware video decoding but no flash. Froyo and cm7 both do flash and froyo has you tube and video harddware support. However froyo for me at least has buggy wifi and screen of death issues which made it non viable for me. Hope this helps.
From Nook Color dual boot with CM7

That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.

flammenwurfer said:
That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.
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Agreed I had thought froyo would be best compromise as it was fast had dsp and flash working, but the sleep of death and wifi connection issues led me to rebooting the thing many times/day which was a real pain.
For now I have a dual boot setup (see thread in development forum) So that I boot into eclair or CM7. This way I do most of my activities in or other rom and reboot into the other when I need say to watch a video or use stock B&N reader.....

Another thing I haven't really thought about. How does battery life compare between the roms? I seem to remember comments here and there about CM7 roms having worse battery life than froyo or stock.

I would suggest to those trying Nookie Froyo on eMMC now to try the kernel posted in post #770 of the Dalingrin kernel thread on the development forum. For myself and several others this kernel is solid and yields no wake or wifi issues whatsoever. Until a more stable interactive govenor kernel is developed this is the one I'll stick with.

glgehman said:
And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
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Indeed. I'm a nooknoob but long time techie and am brimming with questions. Is that quote accurate -- that reverting to "factory fresh" state can be as simply as removing your SD card? (Because that's not the impression I've been getting; I thought you needed to do the 8 failed boots thing and/or reload ROMs.)

Hmm, guess not. I just noticed the thread titled "[HOW-TO] : Restore Nook Color back to stock EASILY".

I believe you can run most of the roms from the sd card without modifying the internal system. I don't know if you can do it without rooting though. You might have to root, then you an try roms on sd card. Someone else will have to confirm that or tell me I'm wrong , as I've not tried any of the sd card versions.

[Q] H.264/Recording Failed

im having a problem recording/watching videos & listening to pandora on my captivate any ideas???
continuum 3.1.1 Froyo 2.2.1 rooted

You need at least 340 total ram to play and record hd files. Check and make sure your rom supports it, as some custom roms don't.
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i have 340 total ram what else do u think it could be?
it's like hit or miss sometimes it works sometime it doesnt

Try using task manager to clear out the used ram before starting a video.....
Could be an app you have hogging resources.

im still having the problem! is anybody else have a problem similar to this?

Flash back to stock, see if it still does it. If not, then root. Check your recoding again. Every time you change something, check recording playback.
Did the problem just start, meaning you could do it before, but not now?
Cezar is up to v4 for Continuum, maybe you just need to upgrade.

thanks for your help. no this start with the audio (wav. & Mp3) not working all the time. like my ringtone would switch to silent etc. but i fixed that by converting the files to .ogg files. & now the audio & video are doing this youtube stops working as well as pandora my music player video player & video recording. it start on JI6 so i switch to KB1 & now on continuum 3.1.1 Froyo 2.2.1 rooted & both do it idk whats going on. what do u think?
P.s. if i reboot my phone it all works again! it's really weird.

Agree with previous poster. Sound like you have an app hogging resources. I would still recommend my advice from my previous post. It will isolate the prob.

so you don't think its something with the phone more like the rom or an app?? right

What kernel are u on? Some kernels sacrifice 720p recording for some extra RAM.

2.6.32.9 speedmod k13c
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There are 2 different speedmod kernels for download. One is called big memory, and you lose 720 recording. Dont know about theaudio part.
Look, you can randomly replace this and that, prob take a few days to go through everything you can think of. If you take a scientific approach to troubleshooting, it may take a couple of hours, but you should find your answer as to why these things won't work. It's not fun, but it is the best way I see you being able to stove this problem.
If you disagree, that's fine. This is just my opinion on how to solve this problem.
Good luck, I really hope you find your answer, even if you choose a different path to get it.

Thank you so much for ur help I've been tryin things for days that y I posted a question. I dnt think its the kernel because it did the samething with stock kb1 I really thing its am app but dnt know which one its weird because its audio & video & if I run a benchmark test I get a h264 decorder error & it locks up
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To clarify, when I said flash to stock,i meant 2.1 stock. You should be able to upgrade to 2.2 through kies(make sure sim card, external sd are removed before flashing and upgrading). But, if it every thing works on 2.1, and you want to flash a rom, skip the 2.2 upgrade. Then follow directions onhow to flash from the first page of the f rom thread.

[Q] CM7: no audio for the videos uploaded to youtube or picasaweb!

Just flashed the CM7 stable build on my hero. While everything seems smooth (Great job and tons of THANKS to the CM developers..darchstar you rock!), there is one feature that seems broken still (I've tried with all the CM7 RCs). The audio for the videos taken with the phone get messed up when uploaded to youtube or picasaweb (I haven't tried other sites though). I use this feature quite a bit to share videos with my friends and family. It works flawlessly on CM6.1-rc1 so I keep going back to my backed-up froyo rom. But I really like to be on CM7! Is it possible to fix this issue? Or is there is a workaround for this?
I compared the properties of the videos taken by CM6 and CM7 and found that the audio frequency of the video recordings by CM7 were 16KHz vs 8KHz with CM6. That might be a cause of the problem when the video is compressed and uploaded to youtube...not sure though!
Anyways, I would greatly appreciate if this issue is fixed or if there is a settings that I can tweak to get this resolved and/or any workaround! Thanks in advance!

I do not know about the video/audio issue BUT, you said you were nandroiding back to 6.1 "RC1" .... If that's correct, you may as well flashover 6.1 FINAL, it was way better than RC1, here's a link to it:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/7060-cyanogenmod-61-for-hero-cdma-v610-12072010/

Thanks for the tip. I'll try it out if I don't get any solution to the cm7 problem. Can you tell what's different in the FINAL vs the RC1 ? Is it performance?

prashm said:
Thanks for the tip. I'll try it out if I don't get any solution to the cm7 problem. Can you tell what's different in the FINAL vs the RC1 ? Is it performance?
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yeah among other things, LOTS of cool fixes, lockscreen options,etc. Just make a nand and do it.

[Q] Youtube HQ vids

I was curious if anyone has problems playing the vids on youtube that are HQ. If I turn off the HQ for the the vid then it plays no problem.
When I leave it on, a msg from the app displays just saying there was a problem playing your video please retry.
I've experienced this only in one other app recently released by funimation.
Hulu and netflix work fine for me. I have tried a multitude of roms to see if its linked to specific ones.

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I was curious if anyone has problems playing the vids on youtube that are HQ. If I turn off the HQ for the the vid then it plays no problem.
When I leave it on, a msg from the app displays just saying there was a problem playing your video please retry.
I've experienced this only in one other app recently released by funimation.
Hulu and netflix work fine for me. I have tried a multitude of roms to see if its linked to specific ones.
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Question has been asked a million times . Anyways here's your answer, you need to use an older version of the youtube app for HQ to work. AFAIK the last working version is 2.1.6. Happy youtubing!

I have seen this a million times as well. But I never really paid any attention because I didn't care.
But yesterday I was testing some system app mods, so I ended up downloading YouTube from the market. HQ videos were playing for me.
I guess that's unusual or whatever. Maybe they weren't really HQ quality, I don't know. But they were playing.
Me and the kid watched funny cat videos for over an hour.
Non-opengl, no system mods that would matter.

mateorod said:
I have seen this a million times as well. But I never really paid any attention because I didn't care.
But yesterday I was testing some system app mods, so I ended up downloading YouTube from the market. HQ videos were playing for me.
I guess that's unusual or whatever. Maybe they weren't really HQ quality, I don't know. But they were playing.
Me and the kid watched funny cat videos for over an hour.
Non-opengl, no system mods that would matter.
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That's interesting, what rom are you using?
Could you try it out again and report back?

I was afraid it was something app related. Its not a big deal. Was mostly curious as well as seeing if I could do some tweak to get the funimation app to work as well. Thanks for the help!
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For those of us who want to use the older version until things get fixed or worked around in the roms, how can I hide the older apk from the market so I don't get spammed all the time to update?
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For those of us who want to use the older version until things get fixed or worked around in the roms, how can I hide the older apk from the market so I don't get spammed all the time to update?
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Go to settings in market/play store and tell it to not notify you of any updates.

jgaf said:
That's interesting, what rom are you using?
Could you try it out again and report back?
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Okay, well I had flashed a couple of times since I posted that, and when I went to try it again, it didn't work. I knew I wasn't wrong the other day, so I reflashed what I thought I had been running before, and now the HQ videos are working with the current market YouTube.
The change between working and not working was I didn't flash the "take1" kernel like I had before.
So this is the setup. I am running a straight build from source, without opengl. I built it myself, but that shouldn't matter. It was built on April 8th, and comes with the standard kernel (no NAT filter or any of the new commits.)
The only difference between mine and the eyeballers (not counting any cherry-picking he may be doing) is that I compiled in a port of PDroid. There are some changes to some system apps, but I don't think that would matter.
Basically, anyone running a straight flash of eyeballer's April 8 build should have the same ability to run the videos with the HQ button on or off. I will not swear they are true HQ videos, I don't know that for certain. But the videos run either way.
EDIT: Let me know if anyone else has this working. I don't know much about YouTube or the whole HQ/HD thing and may be losing my mind.
I thought I had isolated the problem to a gapp, but now am not so sure. I will test again if no one else can get these working. I have uninstalled and reinstalled a bunch of stuff, and don't want to keep doing it if everyone can see HQ with the above setup.
Maybe everyone can in any setup and only the few people on this thread haven't realized it yet. idk.

mateorod said:
Okay, well I had flashed a couple of times since I posted that, and when I went to try it again, it didn't work. I knew I wasn't wrong the other day,....
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Ah I see you are using a CM9 build. There might be something to that. I'm on CM7.2 . Maybe in CM9 it got fixed somehow.

I thought it was working in cm7 as well. Maybe it was just a modded app though, which is no better than an older apk.
Well, unless someone with cm9 tells me it's unique, I will just assume everyone has it working. They probably do, I have never looked at it before I saw this thread the other day.

mateorod said:
Basically, anyone running a straight flash of eyeballer's April 8 build should have the same ability to run the videos with the HQ button on or off. I will not swear they are true HQ videos, I don't know that for certain. But the videos run either way.
EDIT: Let me know if anyone else has this working. I don't know much about YouTube or the whole HQ/HD thing and may be losing my mind.
I thought I had isolated the problem to a gapp, but now am not so sure. I will test again if no one else can get these working. I have uninstalled and reinstalled a bunch of stuff, and don't want to keep doing it if everyone can see HQ with the above setup.
Maybe everyone can in any setup and only the few people on this thread haven't realized it yet. idk.
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My experience has been that HQ sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. I believe it is due to the actual quality of the video being played. For non-HD videos the HQ is lit up and the movie loads and plays fine. For HD videos that are actually HD you get the error message and have to uncheck HQ to get the video to play.
I have had this experience in several different configurations:
eyeballer's opengl builds, original kernel
eyeballer's opengl builds, updated kernel
eyeballer's opengl 4.9, updated kernel take 2 (current setup)
I would like to know if others have the same experience with "HQ" working for what seem to be non-HD videos and not working when the video actually appears to be HD.
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