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Looks like something have changed att youtube because it's like the built in youtube application is suddenly struggling to play the high res videos. It's not a buffering issue, I've checked that already. Videos get short pauses now and then, almost like the hardware acceleration is disabled. I doubt I'm the only one experiencing this...
Could you link me to this youtube app, please? I went directly to the youtube site yesterday and streamed a couple of short vids which played ok but with buffering. It played in the stream app on the phone and I couldn't zoom it or do full screen. What does the youtube app do differently? Does it allow better streaming or full screen or something?
I mean the original youtube app thats pre-installed in the Diamond. It uses hardware acceleration to play videos with nice quality and smooth framerate, now it's not that good anymore so I'm guessing something have changed at youtube... It's strange though...
owziee said:
I mean the original youtube app thats pre-installed in the Diamond. It uses hardware acceleration to play videos with nice quality and smooth framerate, now it's not that good anymore so I'm guessing something have changed at youtube... It's strange though...
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That app doesn't appear to be on my phone, the t-mobile compact 4.
Maybe your operator removed it from your Diamond rom??? You can install it separately, check here for info and the download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472940
Just make sure you install the VGA one... But you probably already knew that of course...
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Maybe your operator removed it from your Diamond rom??? You can install it separately, check here for info and the download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472940
Just make sure you install the VGA one... But you probably already knew that of course...
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Yep, I suspect t-mobile did indeed remove it. Thanks for the link!
Your welcome If for some reason the app refuses to play the videos on your Diamond you might need to install the youtube fix aswell...: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2657501&postcount=164
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Your welcome If for some reason the app refuses to play the videos on your Diamond you might need to install the youtube fix aswell...: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2657501&postcount=164
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Okey dokey, thanks. It's installed now and rebooting. I'll try the fix if it doesn't work. And no, I didn't know I needed the VGA version so thanks for pointing that out.
Ok, I installed the fix because the screen looked a bit messed up and the text is tiny and I can't seem to zoom in. Stil the same with the fix however the video runs very well. But, the capture area is a small square on the left bottom corner in landscape mode. I'll take some pictures of my screen for you.
Ok, here's 2 screenshots. It defaults to playing in landscape but only the small area you can see. Where I type to search, the letters are cut off (see 'CATS AND DOGS') and the text is microscopically small. Any adjustments I can make? Is it possible for the seartch to bring up more than 5 results?
At least it works though, very smooth playback.
That looks very strange... Videos should play fullscreen in landscape...
I suggest you to uninstall that version & the fix and get this version instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481495
It's a newer version of the HTC youtube player, download the second link, the full version: http://www.uploadjockey.com/download/4336552/Youtube_v1.6.1820.4128_FULL.zip
I really hope this will solve your problems and make it work as it should, if not I'm out of ideas since I'm not an expert in this area...
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That looks very strange... Videos should play fullscreen in landscape...
I suggest you to uninstall that version & the fix and get this version instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481495
It's a newer version of the HTC youtube player, download the second link, the full version: http://www.uploadjockey.com/download/4336552/Youtube_v1.6.1820.4128_FULL.zip
I really hope this will solve your problems and make it work as it should, if not I'm out of ideas since I'm not an expert in this area...
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Thanks man, I'll give it a try.
This is odd. I've installed it successfully and it shows up in 'remove programs' but it doesn't show up anywhere else, nowhere to be found in program files, (the other version did), so I can't start the app. This happened when installing to the internal storage, uninstalling it, and reinstalling to the device.
I'll reinstall the earlier version and then do the upgrade version, see if that helps.
Yes that worked! Thanks for the links owziee
I notice that I can scroll up and down the list of videos with the centre button, but it doesn't respond to screen touch with finger, is it meant to be like that? Anyway, not bothered, just wondering. I'm happy now, the quality is great, it's full screen and the text is normal size now.
No thats not normal, I can use my finger to scroll but at least you can watch the videos now. Maybe you'll find a fix for the scrolling issue.
owziee said:
No thats not normal, I can use my finger to scroll but at least you can watch the videos now. Maybe you'll find a fix for the scrolling issue.
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I suppose it may be that because your Diamond came pre fitted with a youtube app that perhaps it was optimised to work with touch screen? Whereas mine is a t mobile phone which didn't come with youtube on it.
Here it is folks, on the market, yxflash, Check it out!
Its about time!
Believe i had this running on my 2g iPod touch. Currently doesn't playback videos smoothly, but hey, it's a start ^_^
didn't seem to work!
Worked for me, but some pauses in places and lag on the DivX moivie I tried. UI very rough. Pause/Play only in portrait mode. No menu options either while playing. Not worth paying for yet...more of a beta version.
Doooh....pauses after 2 mins because not registered! Still, UI needs work!
works fine with some glitches but 15$ for full version is insane
i'll stick with my encoding my videos
hi
how you get full version ? i havent tried this yet ... anyway besides this does anyone know when there will be an actual divx player available or is this the only one there is etc
Heeeeeeeeeelp,
can somebody help me please???????????? how can i install it?
shudnt be there more apps with an open source operating system?? :S
dying4004 said:
shudnt be there more apps with an open source operating system?? :S
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No particular reason why there should!
Regards,
Dave
schwlski said:
Heeeeeeeeeelp,
can somebody help me please???????????? how can i install it?
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Market->Search->xyflash->Install ?
does it support .srt files for subtitles?
It's still pretty poor! Very laggy and crashes occasionally.
Does anyone know of any decent video player for Hero
Can't wait for Coreplayer to be released for Android.
doesnt show up when I search for it in the market
I couldn't see it either when searching on Market, but it did come up when I searched for "divx"...
go figure...
Can anyone tell me wot the performance of this app is like on the HTC HERO? Can it play the standard 700MB movies you get off the net. 512x384 resolution etc or do you have to convert it to a lower res?
THANKS
It's ****ty. I tried episodes of 180mb, and it lags like hell.
Waiting for Coreplayer..
Lol
I thought something had finally come around that works when you resurrected this thread and I saw "finally a working divx...".
This player is aweful and you'd be best sticking to converting your videos.
full version doesn't work well too... still need improve before it can start charging. i done a crack for testing as request. it seem buggy & doesn't support all divx format. please do support paid version if you think the apps worth your $$.
On a similar theme, can anyone recommend a decent wmv player?
Or more info on iPhone/Zune/mp4 compatibility of the Hero?
Thanks
Phil
Plays for about 1/10 of a second then sends you back to the BUY section on 1.5......
Uninstalled
Been using this last few days and overall am quite impressed. It is pretty fast, has all that froyo goodness....Flash works though video is still slow and jerky
Have following issues:
YouTube- shows but videos don't play in app
Music- my mp3 which play on autonootered 2.1 don't work.
Statusbar shows no service cell reception icon and lockscreen says no service.
Wifi not always reconnecting from sleep without manually turning off/on.
Anyone else have any of these issues? Any fixes?
What are your pleasant surprises so far?
I think you need to look here.
And here.
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I think you need to look here.
And here.
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Thanks, I guess. Red all the threads and am reporting my issues and seeing if they really unique to me as most I have mentioned are not discussed,....
mp3 the no service message on lockscreen.....
On YouTube, you may want to look at the "HQ" YouTube thread I started here and detailed a tidbit more in my blog (fineoils.blogspot.com).
Takes a careful deleting a stock youtube.apk.
If it won't work (me, I run simply Auto-Nootered and partially tweaked NC with stock A2.1, and HD YouTube is working just fine) then this is your "usability" at this stage.
You fail to mention Flash 10.1 in your list of problems with Nookie Froyo, does it mean you can watch HQ/HD Flash video already?
Don't get me wrong: the move to Froyo is a great development. But so far, it's more of a proof of a concept. For usability, it may take tons of tweaks and optimizations of Cyanogen class, plus backporting the best features and kernels of Android 2.3
aludal said:
On YouTube, you may want to look at the "HQ" YouTube thread I started here and detailed a tidbit more in my blog (fineoils.blogspot.com).
Takes a careful deleting a stock youtube.apk.
If it won't work (me, I run simply Auto-Nootered and partially tweaked NC with stock A2.1, and HD YouTube is working just fine) then this is your "usability" at this stage.
You fail to mention Flash 10.1 in your list of problems with Nookie Froyo, does it mean you can watch HQ/HD Flash video already?
Don't get me wrong: the move to Froyo is a great development. But so far, it's more of a proof of a concept. For usability, it may take tons of tweaks and optimizations of Cyanogen class, plus backporting the best features and kernels of Android 2.3
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It is beyond proof of concept and 90% works as good or better than 2.1
Flash works. But seeing embedded flash video on some sites the video framerate is slow and jerky. Some sites play well. I suspect the 800 MHz processor and no hardware acceleration are the culprits and so OC to 950-1 ghz and hardware access might make it more useable.
So far I seem to ne the only one stating I can't get mp3 music playing so don't know if this is a known problem.
This may be common knowledge
I was sad that YouTube wouldnot work on cm7 , but after I changed the user agent on my browser to android desktop YouTube works just fine. Thought this might be helpful to somebody. (Miren)
jbcollins said:
This may be common knowledge
I was sad that YouTube wouldnot work on cm7 , but after I changed the user agent on my browser to android desktop YouTube works just fine. Thought this might be helpful to somebody. (Miren)
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When they say Youtube will not work they are talking about the Youtube App, which Requires Hardware Video, which CM7 does not have at this time.
Running youtube with Flash from the browser is known to work, even if it is not as high quality and smooth as the APP. Its all we have right now.
Cant wait till the New Kernel Port for CM7
With all the different roms and different versions I'm getting really confused and which roms can do what.
I've tried phiremod v2 and cm7 nightlies and the youtube app doesn't work at all in either. Youtube in the browser I couldn't get to work in phiremod v2. I can watch youtube if I change my user agent to desktop with cm7 nightly but it's choppy.
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?
This is not an answer to your question -
But if the widespread rumors are correct, then the B&N Stock NC will be updated to 2.2 with Flash by the end of the month, and then if you root that, you will be able to sideload Youtube App for Froyo to that. In fact, the update is supposed to include a B&N Market, and one would expect B&N to have all the Free Google Apps in their Market at startup. (But that's just speculation.)
Flash Player 10.2 working for me
I downloaded Flash Player 10.2 earlier today and it installed and works much better. I am running Phiremod 4.1. I got the APK from: freewarelovers(dot)com/android/app/adobe-flash-player
It's important to remember that Flash is an application framework that can deliver video among MANY other things. If you're looking for a FLV video player, then the performance still is not here: it requires hardware support and we don't have the drivers yet.
BUT, if you want to play games and use interactive websites written in Flash, then try out 10.2. It is WAY more functional.
Interesting. Are you saying that there are no roms with smooth playing flash video? It seems odd to me that everybody is so happy with these roms when they can't watch any flash video smoothly.
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Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?
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To specifically answer your question, smooth video is supported in Eclair (the native Nook rooted ROM) and, I think, it plays acceptably in Froyo; although I could be mistaken.
A lot depends on the size/quality of the video; standard definition (640x480) should play acceptably well in either of those OS versions. Higher definition may stall from time to time.
Gingerbread 2.3 (CM7, etc) still does not have working drivers for the hardware assist features of the chipset, and hardware assist is essential to smooth video playback.
Here are the specs on Nook Color CPU/GPU (from Androidtablets.net):
CPU Processor: ARM Cortex A8-based Ti OMAP 3621 @ 800 MHz (same processor as Droid 2 and Droid X)
GPU Processor: PowerVR SGX530 Graphics Rendering: Open GLES1.1/2.0 Hardware Scaling: 854x480 scaled to 1024x600 Video Formats: .3GP, .MP4, .3G2 ** Video Codecs: H.263, H.264, MPEG-4, ON2 VP7 ** Image Formats: JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP ** (same GPU as Droid 2 and Droid X)
As you can see, the GPU can support a native resolution of 854 x 480 (which is scaled in hardware to 1024 x 600); H.264/MPEG4 video (which FLV is a kind of) can be decoded in the hardware with the appropriate drivers. At present, all the players have to do this through software, which frankly is beyond the capability of the CPU at 800 MHz or even overclocked at 1.1 GHz.
We need to be patient; those hardware drivers will come.
Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
flammenwurfer said:
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
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I am not sure whether the Froyo rom can play video smoothly. It does on Droid and other phones, so I would guess those drivers have been tried out. I had Froyo on my Nook Color for a while, but frankly can't remember how the video was.
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So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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It depends on what you need/want. For me, the text handling of Froyo was awful. I have a HTC EVO 4G (with Sense UI on top of native Froyo). On my phone, I can type pretty effectively. The user dictionary is fast and smart and if I make a mistake, I have an arrows-equipped keyboard to move the cursor to the text I want to correct and fix it.
Froyo (Android 2.2) on both my Nook Color and my Viewsonic G-Tablet were nothing like my Evo. The keyboard often got what I typed wrong and when I tried to set a cursor to make a correction, it would end up one letter off. I tried out a bunch of keyboards - some with arrows - and had an OK Froyo-based system, but as soon as a decent Gingerbread-based ROM came along (and Phiremod's is EXCELLENT!), I went with that.
In Gingerbread, you have a much more accurate keyboard and dictionary lookup. The keyboard still doesn't have arrows, but you have a very nice cursor positioning tool, plus the ability to select a little or a lot of text and copy/paste it anywhere throughout the system.
But, as you note, certain of the multimedia features aren't there yet. Since I use my tablets more as very handy computers and less as multimedia entertainment systems, the choice was pretty straightforward for me. I can wait a few weeks for video playback.
And, frankly, the reason a lot of people get excited about roms - and having lots of different roms - is because they are fun in and of themselves. They like to tinker. And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
But your mileage will certainly vary. If high definition is a deal breaker for you, you may find the Nook ultimately inadequate even when the Gingerbread drivers (and eventually Honeycomb drivers) come out. There's only so much power under this hood. A tablet based on Tegra 2 (like the Viewsonic G-Tablet or Xoom) may be more what you're looking for. With the right drivers, though, we should get perfectly acceptable 480p playback.
glg
The rom you are looking for is nookiefroyo. I have great YouTube playback in app including high quality. In browser 360p plays fine, but anything above that is choppy.
I also have tested other flash websites. CNN was perfect, as was megavideo.
I purchase my nook a few days ago and thus far nookie froyo looks to be the latest and most complete rom out. That plus the softkey theme I installed and the honeycomb keyboard makes this tablet a force to be reckoned with. I might even have to post a video soon because I'm so amazed atnhow well this thing runs.
I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.
Just a little notice, YouTube app doesn't use Flash for playback, it grabs MP4 version of a video stream, which is meant to play on mobile devices.
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I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.
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As in audio and video actually work smoothly (and are in sync)? What version of CM7 are you on?
I would like to know as well.
I'm on the latest CM7 Nightly and just installed the OC kernel. Youtube videos at 360p are playing ok now, but the audio is out of sync.
I might have to give Nookie Froyo another try. Interesting that the Youtube app works so well for you. I could have sworn that I would just get an error every time I tried to play anything.
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Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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Eclair does hardware video decoding but no flash. Froyo and cm7 both do flash and froyo has you tube and video harddware support. However froyo for me at least has buggy wifi and screen of death issues which made it non viable for me. Hope this helps.
From Nook Color dual boot with CM7
That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.
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That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.
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Agreed I had thought froyo would be best compromise as it was fast had dsp and flash working, but the sleep of death and wifi connection issues led me to rebooting the thing many times/day which was a real pain.
For now I have a dual boot setup (see thread in development forum) So that I boot into eclair or CM7. This way I do most of my activities in or other rom and reboot into the other when I need say to watch a video or use stock B&N reader.....
Another thing I haven't really thought about. How does battery life compare between the roms? I seem to remember comments here and there about CM7 roms having worse battery life than froyo or stock.
I would suggest to those trying Nookie Froyo on eMMC now to try the kernel posted in post #770 of the Dalingrin kernel thread on the development forum. For myself and several others this kernel is solid and yields no wake or wifi issues whatsoever. Until a more stable interactive govenor kernel is developed this is the one I'll stick with.
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And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
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Indeed. I'm a nooknoob but long time techie and am brimming with questions. Is that quote accurate -- that reverting to "factory fresh" state can be as simply as removing your SD card? (Because that's not the impression I've been getting; I thought you needed to do the 8 failed boots thing and/or reload ROMs.)
Hmm, guess not. I just noticed the thread titled "[HOW-TO] : Restore Nook Color back to stock EASILY".
I believe you can run most of the roms from the sd card without modifying the internal system. I don't know if you can do it without rooting though. You might have to root, then you an try roms on sd card. Someone else will have to confirm that or tell me I'm wrong , as I've not tried any of the sd card versions.