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i dont know if this is the right place to post because you guys will obviously be biased towards the tilt..
what do u think , should i buy a Tilt or the current Iphone ?
i like to browse the net thru wifi quite a bit, check emails. also while talking voice quality is important, signal strenth is important too.
any suggestions is appreciated specially if someone has owned both of these 2. thx
btw i have read other threads and googled other comparisions but there werent too much opinions on this topic.
the few i saw said they liked Tilt better.
okay i dont own a tilt, so thought id post.
i prefer the tilt,
in my opinion it looks nicer, is easier to text (with the keyboard), the hackability is excellent (ROMS) and applications are plentiful.
tseten said:
btw i have read other threads and googled other comparisions but there werent too much opinions on this topic.
the few i saw said they liked Tilt better.
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Not sure what you mean about "weren't too much opinions" but this forum is full of opinions about the iPhone and Tilt and you will find some very heated opinions to boot.
On I side note: I have the Tilt, my wife has the 8525, and my Brother in-law has the iPhone. Each His (Or Her) own....
IMO ~ You may have just reopened a big can off &%#* as this forum is not a iPhone forum and iPhone or related threads generally get bashed on. Start a Poll!!!!
i have heard the Tilt is fat and bulky compared to the sleek Iphone....
and the Tilts touch screen scratches easily and have to use stylus... whereas iphone screen is scratch resistant... i think.
but ofcourse I like HTC, and i like Windows Mobile6 ...i currently own a different HTC phone with wm6 custom rom. so before yall think abt bashing me, im a custom WM6 Rom fanboy...
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okay i dont own a tilt, so thought id post.
i prefer the tilt,
in my opinion it looks nicer, is easier to text (with the keyboard), the hackability is excellent (ROMS) and applications are plentiful.
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i have both and i love the tilt better
iphone after a while gets repetitive and boring
tilt theres more to discover by the day
Well, if the iPhone ran Windows Mobile it would be a close call, even with all the WM "limitations", it is still far greater and customizable then the iPhone interface, in which basically... you can swap icons.
Plus Gps, 3G and whatever else the iPhone misses.
iPhone has a bigger and more resistant screen and that's pretty much all I can see about iPhone having better.
I think comparing this version of the iphone and tilt isnt close without 3g and gps. But if you don't use those who knows. The iphone is defintely thinner and sleeker. But the wm phone is much more functiona.
Skyfire browses the web just as well as the iphones and handles all flash content, can't beat that.
well i would get tilt myself but i got piles of 3th party progs which is wm
and want something better then edge and want flash support
but i do think iphone looks better but then i never were a big fan of the looks of kaiser
get both and then decide which one u want and then sell the other one.
I have both, here's my opinion
Tilt
Pro's:
3G
GPS
WMWifiRouter & tethering
Youtube
MicroSD Slot
Easy to sawp sim card
Exchange/Direct Push
Quake I & II
Microsoft Mobile Office
Con's:
Battery life
size (lets face it, compared to the iphone the tilt is a brick)
video issues
slow at times
can't get NES roms to work properly (thats for me atleast)
WM is designed to be used with a stylus, I know, touchflow TRIES tomake up for it, but falls short imo
OEM headset sucks
iPhone:
Pro:
easy to use
video playback is great
surfing the internet is quick and fun (despite the 2.5 modem)
Installer app is really nice (if u hack/unlock ur iphone)
the ipod functions are nice
great ebook reader imo
Accelerometers
screen size & quality
multi touch
threaded sms out the box
solid feel to it
size
comes with a cradle and nice headset
Con:
2.5G modem
No tehtering
no gps
no video recorder (but can be downloaded via installer)
no exchange
calander sucks
keyboard sucks
iPhone plans suck (with AT&T)
App icons on homescreen are static, meaning it wont update the weather on the front screen, u have to open the app to see the weather
screen does not recognize a stylus
easy to scratch
I had my tilt first, and I loved it, and thought it was the best phone ever... I just got my iphone roughly a month ago, and I fell in love all over again. Dont get me wrong though, I wouldnt say anyone of the phones is superior to the other... They are 2 different styles of phones, one is a buisness type personal manager, and the other is a entertainment device. I love the tilts connectivity, I travel a lot for work, and I got to school at night. Its nice to be able to whip out the tilt, connect to the internet and share the connection with my laptop. Also during my travels, if i get lost, TomTom will always direct me to my destination. The iphone is great when going out a night, its slim shape allows me to have in my pocket, for my tilt i have to use a belt clip/pouch.
So there ya go... You just need to make sure the phone your getting suits your needs... the tilt suits my business life, the iphone my personal life... I wish there was a device that did both in 1.. maybe the next HTC device or the 3G iphone will cover all bases... we'll see
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Nope I can confirm it does scratch.. I have a fat scratch middle of my screen
I'm a new user here which means my opinion doesn't count as much, ;-), but I'll throw my 2 cents in anyways. I'm looking for a "one device to rule them all" type thing. The Kaiser and the iPhone 1.0 are close. However, I think the phones that'll make me happy are either the TyN IV or the iPhone 3.0. The above poster is right that the WM6 isn't great at entertainment/personal apps and the iPhone isn't great at business apps. In the race of the Tyn IV and the iPhone 3.0, I think that Apple will win because their interface is so much more polished, integrated, and smooth.
Oh, I just got a Kaiser on Friday, I've been using an iPod for years, but don't have an iPhone.
A Man's Phone
I have a tilt and my wife has an iphone. So that is easy , the Tilt is a man"s phone and the iphone is a girl's phone. Just Kidding (kinda) Higherbeing had all the technicals right. I run a business totally (mostly) on my tilt. From editing documents on the go, to planning my day, to finding my way to jobsites(GPS)to organizing contact and the constant flow of emails and I do it all at 3G speed , I could not see me with an iphone.My wife texts her friends, listens to music at the gym, gets a email or two from work, shows everyone pictures of the family, watches a youtube video or two checks the weather occasionally and laughs at my stylus. Like they say, to each his/her own.
oh yea forgot mobile office as one of the pro's on the tilt...
heh denco sounds like we have simular life styles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaZIs4oN4yA
http://www.chinabestmobile.com/listE.asp?ProdId=0097
tseten said:
i dont know if this is the right place to post because you guys will obviously be biased towards the tilt..
what do u think , should i buy a Tilt or the current Iphone ?
i like to browse the net thru wifi quite a bit, check emails. also while talking voice quality is important, signal strenth is important too.
any suggestions is appreciated specially if someone has owned both of these 2. thx
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I bought an iPhone for my wife and a Tilt for myself a few weeks later. At times I've regretted not getting the iPhone in part because:
It has a slightly larger screen
It has a slimmed down version of iTunes.
The touch screen gestures are very intuitive and work out of the box.
There's a steeper learning curve for the Tilt. However, once you get a handle on the basics (thanks xda!!) it can be a more powerful device for a few reasons:
3G is a lot better than Edge.
Built in GPS is awesome.
Works with a lot more bluetooth devices.
There's a lot more software out there for Windows Mobile than for the iPhone.
The slide out keyboard can really come in handy for those longer emails.
Office mobile and built-in full featured exchange sync
Some of these advantages can be had if you unlock the iphone and use FreeBSD/MacOS X software directly.
If you're like me and you're mainly interested in having the benefits of a computer in a very small form factor (one you can carry around - one device to rule them all so to speak) I'd go with the Tilt. The iPhone is wonderful but it's also kind of constraining.
I think this sums up my thoughts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKsJDLj4nDI
Plus the Tilt is hotter in this video.
thanks for all the post guys... i think the Tilt is the right fone for me.... even though im using Tmobile so 3G phone is useless.
i like the GPS with TomTom feature too...
i might also buy the Iphone later if they drop the price... which they might since the new iphone is coming out very soon.
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thanks for all the post guys... i think the Tilt is the right fone for me.... even though im using Tmobile so 3G phone is useless.
i like the GPS with TomTom feature too...
i might also buy the Iphone later if they drop the price... which they might since the new iphone is coming out very soon.
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No problem. Tilt has more options.
Also, I laugh at your statement of Apple dropping their price. My company unfortunately uses some Apples in its Design Department. I've never seen the price go down. When they announce a new "upgrade" The old one sells at the same price, or is dropped $20, while the new one sells for $50 or more over. Then when the old one is sold out, the new ones price drops down to the Old ones price. Just in time for it to start all over again. In fact the price on iMacs has gone UP incrementally.
im about to take the leap to upgrade to the captivate from my tilt 2 running froyo... ive been debating between really the captivate and iphone 4. i was looking at the dell streak and waiting for the thunder but i think ive decided. please post your great experience with the phone and what you would recommend!
i'm happy, i wish it was an htc device as they have always been very solid and i love the sense ui, but with launcher pro and some tweaks this is great! i def reccomend over an iphone 4! the customization is just crazy! i can customize this more than my old blackberry, and i thought that was really good.
I say make the switch, I came from a tilt 2 as well running froyo and haven't looked back. People complain about lag on the captivate but I feel like they have never used a touch pro or touch pro 2. My biggest concern was the lack of a physical keyboard due to having trouble typing on friend's iPhones but the screen is big enough that I prefer having a slimmer phone instead of a keyboard.
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I say make the switch, I came from a tilt 2 as well running froyo and haven't looked back. People complain about lag on the captivate but I feel like they have never used a touch pro or touch pro 2. My biggest concern was the lack of a physical keyboard due to having trouble typing on friend's iPhones but the screen is big enough that I prefer having a slimmer phone instead of a keyboard.
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thanks for ur response! were u able to keep ur unlimited data plan or did u have to switch? i was reading that when texting, the keyboard takes a lot of room on the screen? hard to believe since the screen is big as it is.... and true bout coming from a touch pro/touch pro 2 bout lag... im sure its super quick! my touch pro 2 lags all the time and cant wait to see how a true smartphone should run!
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thanks for ur response! were u able to keep ur unlimited data plan or did u have to switch? i was reading that when texting, the keyboard takes a lot of room on the screen? hard to believe since the screen is big as it is.... and true bout coming from a touch pro/touch pro 2 bout lag... im sure its super quick! my touch pro 2 lags all the time and cant wait to see how a true smartphone should run!
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We get grandfathered into the unlimited plan. The keyboard does take up about half the screen when typing but I see that as a positive cause I have big hands.
Plus it's nice to finally have a phone with a 3.5mm headphone Jack. Also the app market is awesome and there are a ton of great games if you are into that.
Now we just gotta wait patiently til froyo gets officially released but to be honest I am happy with 2.1 so far, not that I don't want 2.2.
I love my captivate. I haven't experienced any of this so called lag. Watching youtube videos of droid x and others make me cringe by how laggy their devices look compared to my butter smooth captivate. I also really like the stock tw launcher better than launcher l pro. I don't get where all the hate is coming from. Its nearly identicle and works perfect.
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yea i rarely had that lag people talked about.. lol but being the bored guy i am.. i still lagfixed
i came from a blackberry as well (bold9k) it was great.. but i'm very happy with my captivate. I just hope we get more ROMs
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Waste of a post.
My wife and I are happy with our Captivates. I had a Storm and she was using a Tour 9630. I have never been a physical keyboard person so I have loved the screen and using swype. My wife is making the transition pretty well. She still wants to hunt and peck using swype but she loves what can be done on the phone. We both have lag (wakeup lag) which is what most people experience. But I just haven't but the lagfix bag on my phone. There are issues, but there are issues with every phone. Just read up in the forums with what people are experiencing and the potential fixes.
If you are worried about gps then I would wait to see if samsung actually fixes it , other wise its an very good phone , better then any other offering out for att
I love it. My boss has an iphone 4 and will be giving it to his son and buying a captivate. The only real difference IMO, is the captivates lack of a front facing camera.
Yes, GPS is kinda wonky, but I'm sure(as well as everyone else) that the Froyo update will fix it.
As far as your data plan is concerned..If you have unlimited data now, and you don't change it from unlimited, then you'll be grandfathered in and want lose it.
Hope you get one..Best phone thats been out in a while.
Captivates quicker then a TP2 as well..lol I had the T-Mobile version and would never use the AT&T version due to the lack of the top row of numbers not being there..lol
Good luck with your purchase.
The best phone out right now
I came from a iPhone 3G and it's super slow compared to the Captivate, I think the iPhone 4 is kinda slow IMO.
I do miss how easy it is to get content onto your phone through itunes, but it's a trade off. With my iPhone everything was in one place waiting for me, but I had to wait to get to my rig to put anything on it. With my Captivate I have the option to wait or download right to my phone from the internet. Also you always have album art on the iPhone, on the Captivate you have to work a little harder and still end up with a blurry mess.
No lag here, traded my first day Captivate for a post launch and it runs fine, GPS and all.
I am not really happy because of ATT **** all of their phones.. including ATT, deleting the fonts that are available on vibrant, not giving good software, instead att gave crap software... and now i am having problem with plug and play with the usb to browse my phone on a pc... my friend that has vibrant just plug and play, no worries... I HATE ATT, if you can, just go to another provider.. the galaxy phone itself is great, but att is ****ed up...
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I am not really happy because of ATT **** all of their phones.. including ATT, deleting the fonts that are available on vibrant, not giving good software, instead att gave crap software... and now i am having problem with plug and play with the usb to browse my phone on a pc... my friend that has vibrant just plug and play, no worries... I HATE ATT, if you can, just go to another provider.. the galaxy phone itself is great, but att is ****ed up...
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You forgot to mention they disabled the hsupa on the phone, so to give the iphone an extra feature
Besides GPS, lack of Froyo, and lack of Flash, I love it Just wish it was a little more custom ROM friendly
Well I've definitely run into some lag but I think I've just put too much stuff on there already. Certain widgets were pretty bad for performance, especially the compass widget. But coming from a Tilt2 i'm VERY happy with the Captivate.
AT&T sucks what they try to push on us but that's why we're in this forum, so we can do what we want. As far as HSUPA I've read this might actually be to prevent some problems the Galaxy S line has with HSUPA enabled. But even so I'm sure the death star was more than happy to give their precious iPhone an edge.
so what is the big problem with gps?? does it lag? doesn't find ur location? when i use google maps on my tilt 2, sometimes it cant find my location, directions are wack, it lags... the only thing that really kills me is the flash on the cam....
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so what is the big problem with gps?? does it lag? doesn't find ur location? when i use google maps on my tilt 2, sometimes it cant find my location, directions are wack, it lags... the only thing that really kills me is the flash on the cam....
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GPS takes a very long time to lock if it locks at all. Thats the major problem all the other problems with the captivate can be mostly fixed thru rooting and applying fixes.
i LOVE the captivate, but i have yet to use it as my primary phone for more than a few hours at a time. The GPS is worthless (i do alot of biking and like to log my trips) and the HSUPA issue it just aggravating. My iPhone uploads at 10x faster than this phone does (and my old nexus one for that reason) but i pay the same amount for data on all three phones. Totally ludicrous. Until those few features are rectified by the Geniuses over at Samsung, or the very great and helpful people here, i will continue to leave it sitting around the house as a toy, and not as a phone. I guess i just dont have the confidence in Samsung in firmware updates like i would HTC, Motorola, even Apple!
just a rant. Other than that, this phone is amazing. If i did it again i would hold off until those are fixed.
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i LOVE the captivate, but i have yet to use it as my primary phone for more than a few hours at a time. The GPS is worthless (i do alot of biking and like to log my trips) and the HSUPA issue it just aggravating. My iPhone uploads at 10x faster than this phone does (and my old nexus one for that reason) but i pay the same amount for data on all three phones. Totally ludicrous. Until those few features are rectified by the Geniuses over at Samsung, or the very great and helpful people here, i will continue to leave it sitting around the house as a toy, and not as a phone. I guess i just dont have the confidence in Samsung in firmware updates like i would HTC, Motorola, even Apple!
just a rant. Other than that, this phone is amazing. If i did it again i would hold off until those are fixed.
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Samsungs backing phone has been sketchy at best, I think att is to blame with the hsupa issue.
So you guys have had the HD7 for a while now. I know it has bugs at the moment. Its to be expected as the OS is still new.
But would you buy it if you knew what you knew now?
Yes, most certainly. Loving WP7 completely. In terms of hardware, the size of the screen is the deal maker for me. But a surprisingly nice addition is the kick stand, which is both effective, useful and invokes an 'oooh that's cool' from people I show the phone to.
I did buy it, then I returned it.
And got an Omnia 7.
May I ask why?
Absolutley I would, yes, there are are few niggles but this is version 1 of the software and a brand new device FFS. Apple are STILL having problems withe the iphone 4 even now (alarms cannot deal with move to GMT from BST for example). With WP7 you are buying into one of the most promising new mobile phone OS's of recent times IMHO, with the HD7 in particular, you are getting a cool big screen device from a company that has built up a good name for itself in the industry. I currently own the HTC Desire and the HTC HD7. I will be keeping the Desire only until the Kindle app and HTML5/ Flash land for WP7, then that will go on Ebay.
My only fear is that because MS decided to launch without one or two features (Flash/ CutnPaste and turn by turn Nav) it will get hammered by the critics in the tech press and be stillborn. This would be a tragedy - the more competition there is in the smartphone space the better for the consumer.
I also hope the handset manufacturers give it the attention it deserves, recent reports on build quality issues with the HTC Trophy do not bode well
That's a conclusive argument
I'm mainly after one as I'm a software developer and I'm interested in the app platform. Looks good. I will go get one today
Ive had mine a day and love it. Was running andoird on my HD2 previously and loved that. But I love the HD7 more. Ye the app market isnt as large as the other major two OS but I can live with that and times will change.
I had an iphone last year and once you get over the intiial hysteria of having millions of useless apps to download and amuse yourself with its not so important.
Ive not had any bugs with the HD7 yet. What issues have people come across.
My only gripe is that Im stuck with crappy Vodafone until 2012
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May I ask why?
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Sure, I loved it in the first 2 days but these 4 main reasons cropped up:
1. The phone would crash/lockup, it did this about 6 times in the week I had it.
2.The hard buttons (on/off, volume, camera) had NO click to them, they were completely soft, so I ended up pressing them all the time by accident, I launched the camera so many times when just holding the phone.
3.The case I was sold with it from the O2 store actually marked the back of it. ( a Leather one with a strap you pull to get it out, don't buy it)
4. I had huge doubts about the overall quality of the device, I really really don't think it would last for 18 months.
I understand 1 (possibly) and 3 were not the fault of the actual device but after issues 2 and 4 cropped up I just decided to return it and got a Omnia 7 instead.
So far for me the Omnia 7 is much better, seems much more higher build quality and its made from metal, the buttons have a nice satisfying click to them, and the screen is just gorgeous, aswell as it being much faster at loading apps and games.
The only reason I took the HD7 over the Omnia 7 in the first place was the double storage but that's not worth the trade off for me.
Oh Yes!!
Having bought an iPhone when they first came out and then giving it to one of our engineers within a week (he thought all his birthdays had come at once!) as deemed useless for true functionality compared with WM6. And then enjoyed my Touch HD I was in eager anticipation of the HD7.
Absolutely love it
Good OS - and looking forward to the updates
Brilliant device - everybody that sees it drools over it and rushes to renew their contract
I have been using email on my mobiles for years and have to say that the HD7 is by far the most brilliant device for actually 'doing business' on the move - big & bright and cool to use
Edit: Forgot to mention - the Office Hub is a 'killer': Was at a presentation yesterday with 2min before I stood up and realised I needed info from a spreadsheet which I thought was on my HD7 (but wasn't) - it took me 30secs to get it! - try doing that with an Android or iPhone...
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The only issue I have so far is the battery life but I've only done a couple of charges so hopefully that will improve.
It's early days for me but at the moment I am happier than I thought I would be. I'm trying Zune pass at the moment and really liking it. Maybe I didn't need the 16GB after all.
I though about the Omnia 7 but didn't want another 18/24 month contract and the PAYG prices being thrown around were a lot more expensive. Plus, I couldn't actually find anyone selling it on PAYG!
Had it for a bit now, had a few bugs happen, but I would not change it for any other phone out there.
Omnia 7 is a 100% no go for me because of the 8gb memory, I only have about 500meg left on my HD7 and will be ugrading to 32gb asap.
Im still not convinced in AMOLED screens, the colours never look right to me and the edges arnt smooth (looking at my sisters and aunts desires) The look stunning, but they dont look real if that makes sence? I would have loved to have an SLCD in it though. But to be honest the HD7 screen looks fantastic because I have the backlight on 100% all the time.
Battery life isnt that bad, it could be better, but it IS better than my HD2's was.
Biggest niggle is bluetooth audio streaming of music doesnt seem to be as high as quality as my HD2s theres everso slight distortion on high notes. Not that noticable, but enough to niggle me.
Once the updates start to roll out its going to be an incredible device.
Im wondering if an update will be rolled out when the US launch happens? why else would it be delayed? or at least im hoping the promised 60 xbox live that were supposed to be available at launch will be availble at the american launch.
Overall best phone I have ever used, the user experiance is fantastic, its just so nice to use every day, and that completely overruls any niggles I have had, which no doubt will be sorted very soon.
Had mine unlocked for 24h now and just learning the OS but what i'm seeing is fantastic! I've come from a HD2 where as soon as i got it i flashed a custom rom then ran adroid on it for ages but now i could never go back even after 24h!!!
there are a few niggles, coming from android where you had settings for everything there does seem to be a real lack of options just the basics to to get you through, i also cant see how to add a picture to a contact who isnt on my facebook?????
i agree with whats been posted before, this OS has the potential to be the best one out there it just needs to grow.
I've had mine for 2 weeks now and love it! Yes some things are missing and there are a few bugs in the OS, but I'm willing to persiverre because what it does give it does really well.
I had an HD2 with Energy's custome roms for a year now and I am so over HTC Sense (I used earlier versions on my Diamond and Orbit too)and now the "new" HTC apps looks very dated amongst the WP7 Metro apps.
Email, something I could not really get working very well on my HD2, runs like a dream on WP7 and I'm turning into a sick email junkie (help!).
As for the screen, everyone keeps knocking this phone in favour of the Samsung, but in reality, the screen on the HD7 is better than the HD2 and can hold it's own. Might not look as good next to a Samsung, but who cares? Are you going to hold an HD7 and Samsung next to each other 24/7? No? Then you won't notice the difference.
Is the email better on the WP7 than Android. The email on Android drove me up the wall with its bugs and weird behaviour. I have seen a few people on this thread mention positively the email so I am hopeful.
Yes, without a doubt, sure it has a few bugs that Microsoft can fix, but these will not stop me loving this device, never going back to an iPhone again, I'll be sticking to Windows Phone or Android devices from here on in, I had the 3GS then the iPhone 4 and now it's on Ebay as I got bored with it
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Is the email better on the WP7 than Android.
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You can pinch and zoom with HTML email which is fantastically useful, and keeps the email as the sender intended. From my understanding (Neowin WP7 vs Android Communication Comparison) Android doesn't do this.
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You can pinch and zoom with HTML email which is fantastically useful, and keeps the email as the sender intended. From my understanding (Neowin WP7 vs Android Communication Comparison) Android doesn't do this.
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The main problems I had with Android was that I often had issues setting up POP email accounts on it. Also could behave oddly when picking up messages, I used to get phantom messages or it would not pick them up correctly or in some cases at all.
oh yes i would, though tbh i would of sold my fish tank and got it on payg and unlocked it as o2 contract prices are so steep and the coverage i not as good as tmobile (not sure if this is the same everywhere but around where i live its the case). I will be honest if it wasn't for the fact all other devices are only 8gb i would not have gone for the hd7 but rather the omnia but there is no way i can live with 8gb. The only annoying thing is that when i'm playing games i sometimes touch the search button esp if i have the phone plugged in at the time due to the way i then have to hold it, but if you press back it goes right back to where you left off.
in conclusion it was not my phone of choice but my hand was forced by the internal storage but i am glad it was, the omnia is no better and my second choice mozart seems cheap and to smiler to my old desire. I love the size of the phone i was worried when i first saw it but the shape is like nothing i have ever seen and make it slip into the pocket easier then my old desire and yet i get all that screen.
Quick question guys. Does the HD7 not have a flash? I thought it does.
Yes, the HD7 has a dual LED flash (at least mine does!)
1. Is the gunmetal/chrome/shiny band around the device metal? It looks like the plastic on my galaxy s in the pictures, but a bunch of reviewers have said that it's metal.
2. How do you guys like windows phone 7?
3. Is there any compelling reason not to buy the phone? (I can't think of any new wp7 phones coming out on tmobile)
Thank you for answering!
My first suggestion is to make sure if any the feature currently missing from WP& matter to you such as the MMS Video feature. IMHO, WP7 is the best cell OS I've used. It's very fast & does what it can do very well. GPS is much faster than it was on my old TP2. Been a while since I played with Android to compare the GPS on it. What I mean is it locates you very fast. On my TP2, it'd take a few mins just to find a satellite. Keep in mind in order to get GPS, I had to unlock my device & load a patched Navigon Select XAP & load my maps for the USA. As for the hardware, it is very nice IMO. The only metal on it though is the kick stand & a small piece on the back below the battery door.
I plan on keeping my galaxy s until I've made a decision. I can sell one or the other. (My friend offered me his HD7 for $200 which seems like a good price judging by what I'm seeing on ebay and craigslist)
From what I can tell, it has everything that I need.
Another question that I'd like to add is how is wifi support on the os? I currently have no data plan and run only on wifi. This has worked well for me as my school has free wifi in most places.
WiFi works great for me & doesn't seem to effect battery life as badly as it did on my old TP2. I keep it on WiFi when ever I'm at home.
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WP7 is very solid, but it's not as developed as Android. As the above post suggests, you should review the feature-set and make sure there aren't any critical absences.
I don't quite agree on the build quality. Having used an iPhone 3G, a Nexus One, and an HD2, the HD7 falls short IMO. It has an attractive design, no doubt, but the materials/execution feel somewhat cheap in comparison. My HD7 for example has a rattly battery door and originally had terrible buttons. HTC fixed the camera button, but the other three are a bit squishy feeling. If you buy the phone, make sure you check the buttons!
$200 is a pretty solid price IMO. I bought one with the button quality problems (mint otherwise) for $250, and I thought that was a really good price.
Having said all that, I'm not sure if it's your best bet with regard to the Wifi. As far as I know (and I could be TOTALLY wrong), the Wifi shuts off when the screen turns off, and there is no way to change this behavior. Don't think you'll get notifications with no data plan. I recently switched from a Vibrant (and I also don't have a data plan), and it was/is somewhat of a problem. Again though, there might be a way to control the Wifi standby.
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WP7 is very solid, but it's not as developed as Android. As the above post suggests, you should review the feature-set and make sure there aren't any critical absences.
I don't quite agree on the build quality. Having used an iPhone 3G, a Nexus One, and an HD2, the HD7 falls short IMO. It has an attractive design, no doubt, but the materials/execution feel somewhat cheap in comparison. My HD7, for example has a rattly battery door and originally had terrible buttons. HTC fixed the camera button, but the other three are a bit squishy feeling. If you buy the phone, make sure you check the buttons!
$200 is a pretty solid price IMO. I bought one with the button quality problems (mint otherwise) for $250, and I thought that was a really good price.
Having said all that, I'm not sure if it's your best bet with regard to the Wifi. As far as I know (and I could be TOTALLY wrong), the Wifi shuts off when the screen turns off, and there is no way to change this behavior. Don't think you'll get notifications with no data plan. I recently switched from a Vibrant (and I also don't have a data plan), and it was/is somewhat of a problem. Again though, there might be a way to control the Wifi standby.
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Thanks! I don't mind the wifi thing, that's how I have my vibrant set up (it drains the battery otherwise)
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Wait, that chrome on the sides is plastic covered with paint? It feels much more solid that the plastic bezel on the Vibrant though.
i've had 6 android devices in the past and i traded my android for the HD7 and i am very pleased with that decision.
Wp7 is so fast and smooth! its just beautiful and i love the metro ui. my mom has the galaxy s 4g and android just feels so stale and dated compared to how beautiful and smooth wp7 is. yea its not as developed but the things this phone does is genius! people, photos, music & video hubs are all genius and has nice things that i would truly miss if i ever switched to another OS. you find lil things that you think are genius lol. like for me ima HUGE picture freak and the fact i can go directly into picture taking while the screen is off is genius for me plus the camera software is the easiest i have used plus its fast.
wp7 is the most original os and i love it! i dont have to worry about force closes or downloaded utilities too keep my phone running at peak performance. the type of apps i dowloaded on android are completely different now. i download fun stuff and not utilities. i was a power user with android flashing the latest roms and re setting up my phone every week or so and now i dont have to worry about that.
your gmail account syncs flawless with wp7 as if its a android phone lol, and im talking contacts, calender, and email and top it all off its push email!
the data on the works fast. i had the g2 and mytouch 4g but things seem to load faster on the HD7.
i really like the OS an im very satisfied with it! i cant wait to see whats in store for the future on the OS. people truly dont give it enough credit
My line of thinking was that my dad keeps squinting at the screen and keypad of his crappy SE K530, with his specs off, to make out whats on the display, so maybe something like this would serve him well with the extra large display and keypad. Also, since its WP7, it'd be less complicated than an Android phone (my first thought was to go with a DHD). And not to mention he can access his gmail and facebook from it as well. Do you guys think the HD7 is a suitable phone for an elderly user? Or have I spent my money on a Microsoft powered paperweight?
it's more than perfect for him.
he can use any social network app just like on android or iOS.
and it's a very simple device.
You can't go wrong. Your dad will shed a tear.
It is really a nice phone. Screen is big and bright. Easy to read stuff on. Has pinch to zoom and good sound quality.
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Sound quality on the hd7 sucks but its a great device simple to use. In the long run hell become more experienced with the mango build coming along so its perfect to start with.
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Since your dad is elderly I will go for the samsung omnia 7
The hardware buttons are lot easier to press than the hd7 , screen quality much better with out door light, I know this because I just switch from hd7 to omnia 7.
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Since your dad is elderly I will go for the samsung omnia 7
The hardware buttons are lot easier to press than the hd7 , screen quality much better with out door light, I know this because I just switch from hd7 to omnia 7.
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It all depends on the carrier he has. If he is on T-mobile, then it's the HD7. AT&T has the HD7S.