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The anti-iPhone thread (BOO, HISS!)

In honor of it's glorious release today, I felt we needed a thread.
What a marketing sham, especially the "this is the internet, internet" ad. When it's limited to EDGE? Mmmm hmmmm.
I read a WSJ review in which Jobs was questioned about it. He claimed they were "sandwiching" 3G on the bottom with pervasive EDGE and WiFi on the top, which is much faster than 3G anyway. Hahahaha.
I'll keep my 8525, thanks. What say you?

iPhone -> Device for the fashion victims...nuff said.
I mean not adding 3G support is a tad silly since it will need a fast connection to get music at a decent speed.

I will not buy one. iPhone is all fluff IMO. I am eagerly awaiting the Kaiser.

Best Of Both Worlds
We need to add some of the cool features that the iphone has on our 8525 so it well be the best phone that is out right now. Also waiting on the Kaiser and cant wait to see what cool rom that will come out for it.

mrvanx said:
iPhone -> Device for the fashion victims...nuff said.
I mean not adding 3G support is a tad silly since it will need a fast connection to get music at a decent speed.
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exactly what i thought.
the newest overrated overpriced price of fasion crap in the united states YEY!
i work mall security so i got to kick all their retarded iphone wanting ass off property until 5am. Then when they came in line I started showing everyone my iphone look a like rom on my hermes (cing 8525). look i have google map, look i have wifi, OMG a media player, and wow my doesnt cost 600-700 bucks + tax. i kicked the crap out of their hearts. after about 30 minutes of argueing with me they finally gave up... yea the revolutionary devise for morons that have been in the dark... so ignorant. my phone is like a year and a half old lol.
i luved how they all had no idea the full onscreen keyboard sucks and miss understands u often. gg retards, waste of money. i thought about it for a sec and thought wow... the only good iphone is a linux running iphone haha. gg pwnt...

When I had the 8125, I was disappointed by the processing speed and responsiveness of the unit. However when I got my 8525, I am much much happier. The increase in processor speed and maybe the fact that it's not the same manufacturer processor makes the world of difference. Now I'm itching to see a 1Ghz unit! Wheee!

Mog said:
Then when they came in line I started showing everyone my iphone look a like rom on my hermes (cing 8525). look i have google map, look i have wifi, OMG a media player, and wow my doesnt cost 600-700 bucks + tax. i kicked the crap out of their hearts. after about 30 minutes of argueing with me they finally gave up... yea the revolutionary devise for morons that have been in the dark... so ignorant. my phone is like a year and a half old lol.
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Ouch!... that was cold.
Love it.

Mog said:
i work mall security so i got to kick all their retarded iphone wanting ass off property until 5am. Then when they came in line I started showing everyone my iphone look a like rom on my hermes (cing 8525). look i have google map, look i have wifi, OMG a media player, and wow my doesnt cost 600-700 bucks + tax. i kicked the crap out of their hearts. after about 30 minutes of argueing with me they finally gave up... yea the revolutionary devise for morons that have been in the dark... so ignorant. my phone is like a year and a half old lol.
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SWEEETTT!

M$ is so frigging stupid.. They could have TOTALLY STOLEN the spotlight from iPhone if they simultaneously coordinated the release of the official Windows Mobile 6 with the release of iPhone... They refuse to market their product, I mean, even with the BlackJack commercials they make NO mention of Windows Mobile.. Has Bill finally lost his mind with all that money he has?

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M$ is so frigging stupid.. They could have TOTALLY STOLEN the spotlight from iPhone if they simultaneously coordinated the release of the official Windows Mobile 6 with the release of iPhone
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Errrm, well...
a) WM6 has been released for some devices, including some Hermes models (that new Dopod release, for one).
b) AT&T is the exclusive carrier for the iPhone... why would they release WM6 for the 8525 prior to iPhone's launch?
c) Bill Gates could spend the money he's already got as fast as he can with both hands and still not spend it all before he's dead.
'Nuf said.

Beleive me when I say it, M$ has a say in some capacity as to when certain products can be offered... What M$ says is law in the world today.. yes some devices have already been given the upgrades, but I think a universal launch would have been good for the windows mobile based devices.. I can't wait until I see the first punk kid with his shiny new useless iPhone so I can give him a good flaming on what a REAL pda is..

sure he could have done some sort of release at the same time but would it have really hurt?
all the retard apple junkies would still be retard apple junkies, heres a joke and a fact in one.
what can a microsoft user do that a mac user cant? shut the **** up!
i swear they are all just hippys that think they can frigin change the world with there blogs about the dumbass insignificant boring lives, why do they have video blogs and **** like that? becuase they cant find anything else better to do...
hmm so, honestly in short. the iphone is an awesome "top of the line" (notice i didnt type revolutionary) phone for idiots... people that cant figure out ANYTHING on their own... apple was very smart in making a powerful phone with MANY shortcomings Idiotproof... that is the cold hard truth.
if anyone one of those mac luving morons did their research and actually bought the "best" phone, they would be heading over to htc.com
first is was the motorola razr, now its the iphone. Wm7 next? haha
i luv how macs lovers like to think that there macs and crap are customizable becuase that have different color schemes... lmfao. wow blue, wow red... what is the scheme to make the iphone not suck? oh yea it doesnt exist... its still just the overrated overpriced new crap fad from america. i cant wait til they use their keyboards muwhaha. "wtf i pressed p and it typed o, wtf.. w and i pressed e..." I'll love to hear that ring.

im not gonna get in this debate about ms vs mac or gates vs jobs. all i know is...
the iphone is a jerk off
all show and no substance
no mms
no 3g
on screen qwerty covers up things you are replying to
no video messaging
no browser plugins!!!!
safari only (kmfa)
no sim
no mp3 ringtones
plus the silly a** price
no REAL third party apps
that in my humble opinion means it is not worth the trouble. i must admit i wanted one at least to tinker with. but after reading specs. its a big hell no for me. the iphone could have been an htc, pocket pc/smartphone, for that matter-every phone killer and it fell short.

I agree with you hiimcliff
People in the know....know not to waist their $ on this glorified ipod
Waiting on the Kaiser myself ... a real device.

dwny said:
I agree with you hiimcliff
People in the know....know not to waist their $ on this glorified ipod
Waiting on the Kaiser myself ... a real device.
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i also despise all of that iphone skinning crap. i think its so ridiculous

the only good thing that can come out of the iPhone is that Microsoft gets its head out of its ass and starts working on making WM even better. They have a long way to go.

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no mp3 ringtones
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guys look and be sure u will be seeing this within the next month at least.
itunes, u can buy?
movies
tv shows
music vids
songs/albums right?
next up is ringtones, i luv how apple will milk there customer for all the money they got.
u like a song so u buy it, oh wait ur phone cant play mp3s... *damnit* oh look ringtone section only 99 cents omg!
i think most of us just get sound program cutter and clip one then format it to a decent size... at least that is what i do.

I must say you guys are all idiots. You are the kind of people who pick something to hate for no reason. I on the other give things a chance and dont have my opinion made up before ive tried something out. I myself am not a huge Apple fan have never owned a mac or ipod but i got to try out my brothers ipod as compared to my cingular 8125 and i am happy to say that it made my 8125 look like a sorry piece of **** that it is.
For you to say its no good or that Apple is no good is just ignorant if you havent tried it

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I must say you guys are all idiots. You are the kind of people who pick something to hate for no reason. I on the other give things a chance and dont have my opinion made up before ive tried something out. I myself am not a huge Apple fan have never owned a mac or ipod but i got to try out my brothers ipod as compared to my cingular 8125 and i am happy to say that it made my 8125 look like a sorry piece of **** that it is.
For you to say its no good or that Apple is no good is just ignorant if you havent tried it
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your name calling and 4 posts show us all who is boss.
if you read the thread then you see the list of things that the phone is missing. but by all means spend $500 for the iphone and $59-99 for the plan, and $29 each nintendo retro game, and $.99 each ringtone; while i enjoy my $39.99 plan with $29.99 internet plan, free .mp3 ringtones, and a phone that does everything the iphone does and more with no restrictions.

first of all, it's not hard to make a 8125 look bad.. Considering it's bulky design, slow processor, etc... If you had a Hermes you would be whistling a different tune.

what an anniversary gift -_-

oh Lord Android i have sinned. see yesterday was my girlfriends n I's anniversary. and she had a "surprise" for me. i was hoping it was a threesome with her beautiful ass step sister lol anywho, when i come to open up the wrapped box she handed to me, it was an iphone 4......my heart sunk for a moment. i didnt wanna be a bad boyfriend n curse her out so i accepted it. having using it for a day its not as bad as i thought it would be but still. im so used to android that this doesnt even compare to Android. cant even find a good twitter app that pushes my mentions and DMs. anyways, i dont wanna be a bad boyfriend so ill snuggle my Nexus One in its white Google box for now. it needs a good rest after all the heavy usage the past months i gave it.
anyways enough about my rant. do you guys use any OS besides the Android OS which is clearly the best of all i currently have a G1 unlocked, an N1, and an iPhone 4. what about u guys?

you should leave her...my girlfriend knows that i own a nexus and knows why i do...so she would never buy me an iphone...go for the threesome an then leave her

Sell it and tell her it was broken

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Sell it and tell her it was broken
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ah not a bad idea at all lol jailbreak it and sell it for a fortune on ebay

Put android on the iPhone so both are happy
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I'm not going to go as far as to say you should leave her, but my gf knows I don't want no stinking iphone..

"lose" it
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Yeh, after selling it then buy her some flowers

What did you get her? You should sell the iPhone and get her an Android phone!

I have a great idea for your iPhone. Put the sim back in the N1, and use the iPhone as an mp3 player and to play games on (after jailbreaking of course). This way you will save you N1's battery life, and if someone steals your iPhone while playing on the train, it's just an iPhone, not your Nexus. lol

Just give it to me lol

If a girl is dating a boy with a nexus one, and isn't smart enough to realize that just the fact that you own a nexus one likely means you wouldn't ever want an iphone...she's not worth dating.
Sorry but just the fact that she would assume "he doesn't have an iphone? Well everyone knows iphone is the best, I'll get him one" spells trouble in the thought process department.

katiepea said:
If a girl is dating a boy with a nexus one, and isn't smart enough to realize that just the fact that you own a nexus one likely means you wouldn't ever want an iphone...she's not worth dating.
Sorry but just the fact that she would assume "he doesn't have an iphone? Well everyone knows iphone is the best, I'll get him one" spells trouble in the thought process department.
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*facepalm*

The iPhone 4 is an awesome phone and superb hardware. The only problem is the OS is just boring and not as good to me.

Iphone4's retina display n hd capabilities with froyo would definitely rock...

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oh Lord Android i have sinned. see yesterday was my girlfriends n I's anniversary. and she had a "surprise" for me. i was hoping it was a threesome with her beautiful ass step sister lol anywho, when i come to open up the wrapped box she handed to me, it was an iphone 4......my heart sunk for a moment. i didnt wanna be a bad boyfriend n curse her out so i accepted it. having using it for a day its not as bad as i thought it would be but still. im so used to android that this doesnt even compare to Android. cant even find a good twitter app that pushes my mentions and DMs. anyways, i dont wanna be a bad boyfriend so ill snuggle my Nexus One in its white Google box for now. it needs a good rest after all the heavy usage the past months i gave it.
anyways enough about my rant. do you guys use any OS besides the Android OS which is clearly the best of all i currently have a G1 unlocked, an N1, and an iPhone 4. what about u guys?
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Haha, oh wow. We have a winrar...

xXJay_RXx said:
oh Lord Android i have sinned. see yesterday was my girlfriends n I's anniversary. and she had a "surprise" for me. i was hoping it was a threesome with her beautiful ass step sister lol anywho, when i come to open up the wrapped box she handed to me, it was an iphone 4......my heart sunk for a moment. i didnt wanna be a bad boyfriend n curse her out so i accepted it. having using it for a day its not as bad as i thought it would be but still. im so used to android that this doesnt even compare to Android. cant even find a good twitter app that pushes my mentions and DMs. anyways, i dont wanna be a bad boyfriend so ill snuggle my Nexus One in its white Google box for now. it needs a good rest after all the heavy usage the past months i gave it.
anyways enough about my rant. do you guys use any OS besides the Android OS which is clearly the best of all i currently have a G1 unlocked, an N1, and an iPhone 4. what about u guys?
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Ouch, for a tech geek, that's the equivalent of expecting to be the giver in a threesome with her step-sister but instead being the receiver in a threesome with her step-father.
I kid I kid. And come on everyone, the significant other of every tech geek isn't always going to be a tech geek themselves. She tried doing something sweet (wouldn't have happened in my case though **cough cough**) and he didn't want to upset her by turning it away.
So here's the solution... use it for a couple weeks and then ask a friend that she doesn't know to pretend to mug you and steal the phone. Or "accidentally" drop it in the sink while you're doing dishes. Then you can say "oh no! I'm so sorry. At least I've still got my Nexus One though."
EDIT: And for the record, I'm not knocking the iPhone 4. For what it is, it's actually a great device. Its downfall is Apple's tight policies over it (my opinion). But a tech geek is harder to shop for than a woman.

jdmoore81 said:
Put android on the iPhone so both are happy
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ah i forgot all about this lol i hope it works close to how it works on the nexus one

espeanage said:
What did you get her? You should sell the iPhone and get her an Android phone!
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well she has an iphone already so im guessing she bought me an iphone so we can facetime while we are away.....IF there is WiFi in the area -_-

jaszek said:
I have a great idea for your iPhone. Put the sim back in the N1, and use the iPhone as an mp3 player and to play games on (after jailbreaking of course). This way you will save you N1's battery life, and if someone steals your iPhone while playing on the train, it's just an iPhone, not your Nexus. lol
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lol dude i thought about this last night. i just got to wait for my micro sim adapter to come in through the mail and its welcome back nexus

If you hate apple/iPhone

Check out this awesome video ... of the iPhone getting killed by to guns .. mad funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka0wIJE0GfM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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hehe... nice...never liked apple products

I wonder if Ghost Armour can stop 7.62's ..... ?
haha .. Think Apples Warranty will cover it ?

Hell no they probably convince apple fan boy that ... they need to pay them 500 dollars
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I wonder if Ghost Armour can stop 7.62's ..... ?
haha .. Think Apples Warranty will cover it ?
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From: SmartAss City Runs:MiK_CM7

Haaaaaa.
I have been using an iPhone since 2008.. and I do not like it anymore.
Shortly after my vibrate button broke off the side of the phone, I began to realize how little I use what the phone was designed to do. Apps.
I plan to get a Samsung Galaxy s2 or equivalent and go the way of the Droid.

I have never liked Iphones. Don't know why you would go for one when phones like Galaxy S and S2 are there.

I think everyone that hates a phone has some issues rofflmfao

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I think everyone that hates a phone has some issues rofflmfao
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Nope. Ask my ex-crackberry user friends. Ever since Whatsapp came out, they've been leaving RIM in droves.

I want an iPhone so bad so that I'll sell it for $600 and I'll buy a laptop and some Bacon, that's got to be lots of Bacon.
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That's pretty wasteful, but I do like the 1911.

Good video!
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I guess I just don't understand the whole "hating a product" thing.

I don't like iPhucks because they are too expensive and break easily.

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I guess I just don't understand the whole "hating a product" thing.
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When you have to work/fix iCrap (yes they do fail more so then you think) you tend to dread seeing them come in.
They are not serviceable friendly, (and I am talking about ALL iProducts) overpriced, underpowered and marketed to sheeple by a n narcissistic prude.
Case in point, It takes between 40 to 60 min to replace the MB in a iMac if you know what your doing. A PC motherboard can be swapped in under 10 min.
All iProducts mfg after 2008 require specialized tools just to work on them and in some cases only available from Apple.
I had to purchase a special driver just to open up the macbook Air's for $30. They sent me a plastic handle with the special bit worth all of $2 at harbor freight. (if they carried it)
I have asked many of time to be able to takeout some frustration on one and shooting any apple product would be fun but it would not compare to the satisfaction of using tannerite.

Not really hate for the phone, i hate the people that use it. I see it everyday at work when people pull it out. whats the first thing i see even if it has a case? the white apple logo on the back. haha even the way people hold it when talking they don't cover the apple logo...

Haha nice.
You almost spelled out my username on other forums and the email I use: "SyrianGasolHatesApple."

Replacing my bionic with an iphone 5!

Cant wait to start camping in front of the apple store so i can pick my new phone, i want to be the first i'm so excited!

blewis said:
Cant wait to start camping in front of the apple store so i can pick my new phone, i want to be the first i'm so excited!
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News Worthy here.

blewis said:
Cant wait to start camping in front of the apple store so i can pick my new phone, i want to be the first i'm so excited!
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Nice!!! Your getting a phone that is outdated compared to all the android phones. Good job!!! :good:

I would wait for the iPhone 6. Rumor is that will have 6 rows of icons.
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blewis said:
Cant wait to start camping in front of the apple store so i can pick my new phone, i want to be the first i'm so excited!
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I assume you're testing your satire skills?

cromanorn said:
Nice!!! Your getting a phone that is outdated compared to all the android phones. Good job!!! :good:
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That's what I was thinking. Why waste your money on yesterday's technology?

He was setting himself up for disaster. Thats like going to an Obama rally and telling everyone your gonna vote for Romney. I'll give you a hug and say have fun... but thats all the love your gonna get on this forum.

Either he's being sarcastic or he's just wants attention. The iPhone 5 is behind in hardware. My brother is an iPhone users but not one of the idiots who just buys an iPhone because of the name. My brother and I always talk about the differences in our phones and he knows that iPhone is behind in the hardware department. Apple makes good products however they know they have a leash on majority of it's users who will follow them like lemmings off a cliff. Many people who buy iPhone don't even know what they are buying. It's more of a status symbol, a fad, a bling, whatever you wanna call it. Personally I don't care if you're getting an iPhone. You're succumbing to Apple's tactics and you will keep buying inferior phones cause they know they got you hooked. I could go on and on about it. Just don't let the door hit you on the way out.

The bar I go to [too often perhaps but that is another story] had a bunch of peeps that iphones. Now I don't think but only one has a crapple. They all jumped ship to Androids and like them much better. Regardless if the OP is honestly enthusiastic about it more power to him/her.

The OP is entitled to do as he wants. He wants the iPhone5 then so be it. I'm pretty sure most of us don't care and posts like these aren't necessary. It's pretty much like waving a piece of meat at a bunch of hungry wolves. This post is really going to get nowhere. GL with that iPhone5 and be prepared to stand in line for hours. My brother did that last year and he's smart enough to preorder this one this time.

I figured they were sarcastic but you never know. As far as the iPhone goes it is a solid, easy to use phone for people that aren't in to messing with phones. They can check there email, listen to music, put it on an iPod dock, play Angry Birds and of course make phone calls. My wife has one and has a hard time using my Bionic on ICS. Another issue that some people have is that they buy and android phone and its Junk from the get go. There are dozens of different makes and models on all the different carriers and and you buy a crappy device it can taint there taste for android cause they think ALL the android phones are bad like theres. Apple has one solid phone that is the same on all carriers. I have a friend that had a Droid 2 and now has a HTC Thunderbolt. He IS getting the iPhone 5 because of all the bad experiences he's had with the HTC. He has never used ICS or JB which I believe is the BEST thing to happen to an Android device.
I LOVE macs. Always have. I have a Mac Mini that I run OSX 10.6.8 and Windows 7 Professional on. It gives me the best of both worlds. I won't knock the iPhone, but with the solid hardware that is coming out and the vastly improved OS's like ICS and JB I think Google is on to something...

How is this worth mentioning? Has nothing to do with the Bionic.

I'm totally just kidding i just wanted to start a fire.....

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I'm totally just kidding i just wanted to start a fire.....
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Lol.
mission accomplished...:beer:
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What idiot would camp out for a phone anyway?? Seriously
Luke

lukesdiesel said:
What idiot would camp out for a phone anyway?? Seriously
Luke
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Dude look in front of the apple store before the new iphone is out

This vid really explain alot about iphone users
http://pocketnow.com/2012/09/13/iphone-5-fake-video/

I think IPhones (doesn't matter which one) are good phones but not for dudes. It's like a dude buying a new VW Bug, totally not cool.

I never understood why people have such a hard time with android to say that apple is easy? Its like, wow. Android isn't hard either.
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how is wifi antenna on iphone.. because I heared it s weak.... sorry bu we need good antenna.
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I just don't get it...

I have tried to convert 5 people which some had iPhones and rest Samsung and HTC phones. Now in every case I sold their old like 2011 phones and got them a nexus 4 and spending no more than 50 bucks tops to get a nexus 4 8gb. Almost every convert is a failure, most would prefer there old phone back. THIS IS INSANITY!!! now the I sheep I can somewhat understand but the Samsung and HTC just boggled the mind.
Now maybe I'm biased but I hate everything Samsung and HTC does software wise. Its like skinning windows I just don't see the need and why add more code on top and your not even a software company. Most buyers know nothing about android so does it really matter if android was just stock. Maybe work with Google on something's but these ui's just suck in my opinion. All I see it as a forced attempt to be different. Who is forcing this I don't know.
Now I know people don't want to take the time to learn and get used to their ways but something must be wrong ( definitely with those people ) with android. Sometimes I think its too advanced. We talk about isheep but a lot of them know how to use their phones well. Maybe this is why apple keeps iOS the same.
I bought a used nexus 4 for 240 the other day guy told me he couldn't sell it higher I was shocked. This is an unlocked phone and its cheap. People are going into these stores signing two year agreements on already over a year old phones.
Is Google afraid to educate people and push stock android forward. Tell people the truth you can do prepaid and get the same service and stop getting raped every month. All these other hardware makers need Google there really is no other os ( windows phone, yeah right ). Say what you will about apple they get there updates all at the same time and they know when the new iPhone is out. All this different ui stuff just confuses people.
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i recently tried to convert my gf's sister from iphone and failed miserably. She really hate the phone coz apparently she was having trouble with group text and the battery couldn't last her a whole day. I sat her down and reconfigure her phone as much as i can in addition to showing her all the cool things androids can do. All i get at the end of the day was: i still like my iphone better i think i am gonna use that instead of this phone.
i cried :crying:

Used Nexus 4 phones around these parts go for a mint; often more than what the Play store sells them for! As far as converts, some folks are just really "hung up" on their current devices; whether it be with the operating system/their own set o apps (iOS), or they are caught up with the high specs/sensationalism of their current devices (S3, HTC One X, etc). Hard to say.

altqq said:
i recently tried to convert my gf's sister from iphone and failed miserably. She really hate the phone coz apparently she was having trouble with group text and the battery couldn't last her a whole day. I sat her down and reconfigure her phone as much as i can in addition to showing her all the cool things androids can do. All i get at the end of the day was: i still like my iphone better i think i am gonna use that instead of this phone.
i cried :crying:
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Yeah once upon a time I swore by blackberry until it came time to buy another phone and 4g was out. I said I'm not paying 200 bucks and sign a new agreement for this. Got a Samsung Galaxy 2 then one day rooted. Then ice cream sand which came loved that over crappy touchwiz. Then I learned and waited for Samsung to release new kernel and eventually realized that if I want stock android buy stock android. If I want updates some time in the same year buy a nexus. Gal nex then to 4. There is no better option for me, I wish I had choices but right now its one nexus a year.
So in a lot of ways I am just like an iPhone user.
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I don't even try to convert people...I tell people about it but everyone is like "I never heard of it" or "but I want the galaxy s3" or some crap...hell even phone salesmen have never even heard of this phone in these parts...so I just say OK what ever keep your subpar phone or phone that your stuck with for 2 years I have a bad ass phone that that I didn't get suckered into for 2 years and paid the same price for...and it has a better processor with more ram and it gets updated software in a timely manner...though that's not much of a selling point for most people I know since they all ignore the updates any damn way.
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Fataldesain said:
I have tried to convert 5 people which some had iPhones and rest Samsung and HTC phones. Now in every case I sold their old like 2011 phones and got them a nexus 4 and spending no more than 50 bucks tops to get a nexus 4 8gb. Almost every convert is a failure, most would prefer there old phone back. THIS IS INSANITY!!! now the I sheep I can somewhat understand but the Samsung and HTC just boggled the mind.
Now maybe I'm biased but I hate everything Samsung and HTC does software wise. Its like skinning windows I just don't see the need and why add more code on top and your not even a software company. Most buyers know nothing about android so does it really matter if android was just stock. Maybe work with Google on something's but these ui's just suck in my opinion. All I see it as a forced attempt to be different. Who is forcing this I don't know.
Now I know people don't want to take the time to learn and get used to their ways but something must be wrong ( definitely with those people ) with android. Sometimes I think its too advanced. We talk about isheep but a lot of them know how to use their phones well. Maybe this is why apple keeps iOS the same.
I bought a used nexus 4 for 240 the other day guy told me he couldn't sell it higher I was shocked. This is an unlocked phone and its cheap. People are going into these stores signing two year agreements on already over a year old phones.
Is Google afraid to educate people and push stock android forward. Tell people the truth you can do prepaid and get the same service and stop getting raped every month. All these other hardware makers need Google there really is no other os ( windows phone, yeah right ). Say what you will about apple they get there updates all at the same time and they know when the new iPhone is out. All this different ui stuff just confuses people.
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Hey, I say thank you to those types. If it wasn't for those people coming from iPhones I would not have been able to get 3 16gb nexus 4s and two charging orbs for 1000 flat. The average age of each phone? 4 days old.

You're a hobbyist, just accept that other people have different interests than you do.
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Drachen808 said:
Hey, I say thank you to those types. If it wasn't for those people coming from iPhones I would not have been able to get 3 16gb nexus 4s and two charging orbs for 1000 flat. The average age of each phone? 4 days old.
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Man maybe I should have cruised Craigslist lol
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If a phone is doing what a person needs it to then what reason is there for them to change to a new one?
Normal people will want to stick with what they want if it's working for them (to an extent, advertising will usually motivate then to "upgrade"). If you try and convert then from iPhone to Nexus or even TouchWiz to Nexus, Joe normal won't like having to go thru that learning curve of figuring out a new phone ui again.
It's just how it is. Joe normal just wants to text, make calls, receive emails and watch porn on their phone. They don't give two hoots if another phone opens apps 0.5s faster or not.
Stop trying to convert people. It's great you enjoy your Nexus 4. It doesn't mean everyone else has to.
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Ive had enough of the people around here. i think im just going to get the HTC One and live a normal life again

You gotta hand it to Apple that iOS is simple, colorful and intuitive. It's like being locked up in a golden cage and Apple decides what you are going to be fed, but still it's very simple to handle.
Samsung and HTC are trying to accomplish the same, their interface is a more colorful and simple approach to the Android experience. Not everyone likes the stock Android look! There's an enormous difference between the unexerienced and the advanced user!

I say, why bother? Coming from iPhone2g,4,4s,HOX, I love Nexus 4 the most. Android matured, it's on par with iOS and in many aspects bests it. So why bother and try to convert people. Let 'em be & just enjoy yourself. That's the way I see it.

Still the worst encounter I ever had was with an iPhone user. Me and 3 friends were just having a drink, me being the only android users the rest iPhone. So without the intention of bringing any os war up I simply said, arrgh I need a screen protector, (HTC one x back then) getting a crap load of scratches.....
Here is how it continued:
Idiot1: omg get iPhone its the best
Me: I'm happy with android its just scratches
Idiot2: man get iPhone they have best screens ever, they don't scratch, here look no scratch..
Me: *thinking: what an idiot we both have Corning gorilla glass*
Third guy was talking about how epic its features are.
In this whole conversation however, I remained calm and didn't mention anything about either phones. Cause alone the argument they had shows they have not the slightest clue about anything , not even hardware wise. They are loyal to apple and whatever they release is god sent. So there was really nothing I wanted to say. Not that I care what phone they are using, just people with no clue saying things they have no idea about
Edit: idiot2 broke up with his gf just cause she replied to s guy who asked her a question. Lolol
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i miss some of the sense widgets but thats all i miss and only cause they polish them up a little better and it doesn't look bare but it's honestly no where near enough for me to consider buying that HTC One " " especially with that whole blink feed crap (personally i hate the tiled view) but point of the post when the N4 first came out I got one for a iSheep and to this day he is way happier with it. people who are cool with going outside of their comfort zone and aren't scared to try new things will see it for what it is while people who don't want change will call out the negatives and run to their old phones again . . . ..
i really don't get why people liked their old androids better than the N4 though that does boggle my mizind

I was pissed because I saw some 65 year old dude at Chick-fil-a using a Nexus 4 and I couldn't have one. Once the supply chain got fixed and I had one of my own on stupid cheap pre-paid I was no longer mad.
I don't care about people using other phones as long as it doesn't prevent me from using mine, that is their prerogative. Ill tell them about my setup though, a bit of an evangelist, and they will still willingly sign up with AT&T to be bent-over on a plan so they can save $100 on a phone. Not my problem though, I dont pay their phone bill either.
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i miss some of the sense widgets but thats all i miss and only cause they polish them up a little better and it doesn't look bare but it's honestly no where near enough for me to consider buying that HTC One
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Originally I did too but then HD Widgets came along (now I only use the lock screen widget though) and Google added a ton to vanilla in ICS.

Some people it's not about the phone, it's about what the phone says.
They won't buy a Nexus because they have never heard of Nexus and don't know about the image it portrays.
They buy a Samsung because it's not an iPhone, they buy an iPhone because iPhones are what the hipsters have etc etc.

I think it's funny hearing iPhone people talk about features android has had since ICS like it's a brand new thing because it just appeared on iOS.
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its ultimately about uniformity. all apple devices have the same layout, feel and functionality. all android devices arebso different that no one knows whats going on. if all android devices were offered as stock there would be no real problems. you can really blame second hand companies for jizzing up the layout and trying to be "innovative." best thing though is that apple is no longer the leader in mobiles. theyre playing catch up to android, because even with all the differences other companies are offering better specs at better prices faster than apple can keep up with, which makes me happy

why convert people to nexus? worry about your own problems
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I tried to aware people but my threads are beig closed. N4 is the most failed phone and google hid it nehind a cheap price tag.
But cheap price tag doesnt mean that the device will always help u. In this fast tech age i am using my note for over a year now. Even today i am happy with my phone which has tasted 3 major android flavors.
This is what i call a fururistic hardware and vendors dedication in making it better and better.
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