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HTC, I've had enough of your BS.

Allright guys,
I hate to do this, but I'm sick of getting flipped off and getting broken promises from HTC. If I wanted those, I'd just get into another relationship with what seems to be a nice girl at a bar. I've sent in more than 9 hand written letters and countless emailed ones. I've made the proverbial ****-ton loads of phone calls. And all this through my own, free time. And I know that I'm not the only one. There is an army of people here who've written, pleased, asked politely and signed a petition. We've lambasted through what seems to be HTC's "cover fire" on the issue. After being dicked around, I didn't want a politically correct and savvy response to the issue that tells me nothing at all. For the money I paid, I wanted the basics. What, When, Where, Why. What was the problem? When Will it Be Resolved? Why has this been overlooked? If I can't get away from my girlfriend with a politically correct and savvy response to the issue of why I spent $700 on a new phone, then I don't believe HTC can use that ploy either.
Yea we've all heard this rant before, but I'm sick of this. If **** doesn''t change soon, I'm taking my business and my accounts elsewhere. It's sad when I have to degrade myself to think about rebuying the iphone. But hell even if we all know the iphone doesn't have all the features the tilt does, at least IT DOES WHAT IT'S PROMISED TO DO. No Smoke and mirrors. No concise and no business response. It just does what it's supposed to do out of the box.
Good luck everyone. This may be the last HTC product I'll ever buy.
P.S. And for all those who say this is a Business Device, not an entertainment device: As a business user, it's pretty damn hard to tell a client "HOLD ON, I NEED TO SWITCH TO LANDSCAPE MODE" or "GIMME A FEW MORE SECS TO SHOW YOU THIS EXCEL SHEET. WAIT, IT'S LOADING. ALMOST...." Even us business users are getting pissed off.
And, again, I hate the iphone, but how many of them do you see complaining because their device doesn't do an advertised feature? Or is misadvertised?

I was a huge fan of I-Mate.
But the Kaiser seemd to be good. That's why I bought it.
I think this will be the last HTC I own. Gonna stick with I-Mate for ever.
We need to sue those *****es.

yes i agree at first i was im love with my tilt but when my video recording capabilities sucked arse and simple things like scrolling while playing music makes the device lag now u know its a problem ive hear dof frigging wizards playing games better than this and they tote this as it being the most powerful windows device out but i was still gonna buy another htc product but once they released that statement im like are u serious this sis ur answer not even a "u can buy 4 more apps for 20 bucks" like steve jobbs is doing i mean i wouldve at least appreciated that but i think i might go to the tytn or the iphone they deliver on wat is promised

My next phone will probably going to be an iPhone once they release a 3G version of it. I miss my 8525

xmoo said:
I was a huge fan of I-Mate.
But the Kaiser seemd to be good. That's why I bought it.
I think this will be the last HTC I own. Gonna stick with I-Mate for ever.
We need to sue those *****es.
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I-mate is switiching manufactoring back to HTC, in essence it is just an HTC with I-mate branding. Hopefully they will support their devices with all the adequate software and updates, unlike HTC.

Infornography said:
Allright guys,
Good luck everyone. This may be the last HTC product I'll ever buy.
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What do you mean "may"? I have absolutely excluded it. After all this mockery and arrogance from HTC, I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror if I EVER went and bought another one of their devices, at ANY point in the future.

Why i'm switching to the Iphone.

The HTC Touch Diamond is a piece of **** for what you pay for.
I paid almost 800$ for a great phone that I expected a lot out of, what did I get? A phone that worked for 20 days and then ****ed up. The entire phone just does not connect when it is not plugged into the wall outlet, and I've used another battery and it still does the same thing, it's a piece of ****.
For the past month I've been trying to get the damn thing to work, I've treated it like a diamond because I've paid as much as I would.
It was awesome for the first 20 days, but now it's useless unless connected to an adapter. Amazing. Mobilecityonline the guys i bought it from are willing to repair it on warranty but it will take 4-6weeks, THATS MORE THAN A MONTH.
I'm ending with my illusion of WM powered phones, goin to the iphone which has basically the same features, not all the looks but god damnit, the tech support is great, and the phone does not lag, and you don't need to cook roms to get the damn thing to work faster.
This is my rant, and anyone else in California who has a working HTC Touch Diamond, good luck keeping it running.

So it was awesome until it broke? Why not just get it repaired then?
Hardware fails from time to time, do you think the iphone is bullet proof? You say you've been trying to get it working for the last month, well if you'd just had it repaired under warranty you'd probably have it back by now.

No, 6 weeks is more than a month. That's far too long for a phone to be in repair. The company was ****ty, that's a given, but the phone ****ed up.
My sister has an iphone and has had it since it came out. The thing with apple is, you can walk into an apple store down the street and walk out with a brand new phone. Repairs take 1 day.
HTC America was really nice and offered the European hotline, but they agreed that if I sent it out to them it would take more than a month, 2-3 apparently. And they cannot send me a new phone but would have to repair this one.
I thought this phone was bullet proof, people f'ing compared it to the iphone. It's an amazing phone, but not worth 700$.

And to get even the basic tools from diamond you need to jailbreak the iphone or use the 2.0 appstore(not the good solution)

haha nice one mouseymousey made me chuckle!
good luck with your iphone mate, you'll soon come running back! 'basic'illy has the same features just about sums it up! and make sure you have a good belt to hold your trousers up! ahem.. BRICK lol
like mousey says, hardware can break down, lifes not perfect mate!
if your fridge breaks down are you going to switch to only eating tinned food?

How so? What basic tools does the diamond have that the iphone does not? What are we missing here? Jailbreaking is meaningless anymore because i'm already on the network with the iphone. You still have to pay for WM applications, it's not like the appstore is killing you.

Sorry double posted on accident. Anyways. I'm sorry, everyone on this board has been great, but no one anywhere on the internet could help me solve this problem, and HTCs best support told me to "hard reset" amazing.
I've just realized that WM is too much trouble, and HTC products are and will always be far too expensive for what you get. If the unlocked iphone cost about 700$ with 4/gigs of internal storage people would be ****ing pissed. But nothing about HTC but rather its a supposed competitor. Failed to impress.
Also, hardware does not break down in a matter of days of you getting it, that's ridiculous, that's showing the quality build of the product being really ****ty. Honestly, If i got a fridge from sears, that broke down in a weeks time I would not get the same brand again. The problem is that every product that you get has to work for atleast a couple of months and you have to do something to do it for it to breakdown. For god's sake, I haven't bought a single product that I couldn't fix, this is literally a hardware failure, that wasn't warranted, I didn't even touch the phone the wrong way, I swear to you I have had it in a case as thick as my wallet. It's ridiculous. If you call it a random breakdown that happens every now and then, **** that. 700$ is a lot for me. And a months time for repairs isn't gravy.

bye bye then
ta tar then!

car navigation, copy - paste, does not even exist... good pushmail etc. exchange stuff... remote desktop, video recording, crappy speeds compared to htc on connections, even with the new 3g... just to name few...
i love the use of iphone, theres no comparison to that, but featurewise its no match for diamond

iphone can melt...
Do you even know that the back cover from the Iphone can be so hot...even the backside can melt...it's posted on a dutch website which found an article from an american user....
If you don't believe me, here's the link to the dutch website:
http://www.allaboutphones.nl/forum/iphone-3g-wordt-ook-erg-heet-en-kan-zelfs-smelten-t3131.html
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=5943855&postcount=288
So you'd better think twice before you buy the Iphone...
greetzz Jeroen

oh yes, the '3g' phone that CANT make video calls?? errr, whats the point!!!? haha
iphone sucks big time!

There are so many good reasons to switch to the iPhone (useability, following the masses, trying to look cool, for example), but "because my phone broke" is not one of them when you consider that iPhone users have just been complaining about that very issue - and I'm not speaking about activation problems...
Anyway, have fun. Good luck with the battery.

I'll stick with the Diamond. Its features simply blow the iPhone out of the water. Most importantly for me is that I can easily write my own apps for it.

Car navigation does exist the new 3g has built in GPS. Copy and paste is released with the new 2.1 firmware, mobileme is up and running, HTC's wifi blows donkey, 3g is fast as hell on the iphone.

And again folks its not about features, its about BUILD QUALITY.

Pietje_1985 said:
Do you even know that the back cover from the Iphone can be so hot...even the backside can melt...
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So they found the TRUE reason to the clobal warming... iBlaah

Hi Intradvocate, can you please confirm that 6 weeks is longer than a month?

Sure, 31 days in a month (average) 7 days in a week, 4.4 weeks in a month. (divide 31 by 7)

Intradvocate said:
The HTC Touch Diamond is a piece of **** for what you pay for.
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This is my rant, and anyone else in California who has a working HTC Touch Diamond, good luck keeping it running.
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I can't help noticing that if the same thing happened to your iphone you would be probably writing similar post. Honestly WM6 is for professional and semi-professional users, perhaps closer to blackberry so if you were looking for an iphone like alternative it was a mistake. I am under no peer pressure in terms of "coolness"- the HTC SD must perform efficiently the business tasks that I throw at it and honestly there is currently no better alternative for my needs.

Intradvocate said:
And again folks its not about features, its about BUILD QUALITY.
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True, on iPod touch and non 3g iPhone, unfortunatelly the 3g version has not been the best quality from apple... this is quite tough place to get sympathy when changing to iblaah...

Getting bored of the Kaiser

My kaiser is boring me recently.
My friend got a brand new iphone 3g, and it's pretty slick and way better than the original iphones.
I kinda want one, but it lacks many features.
What phone is think and cool like the iphone, with a big screen, for USA and able to be used on AT&T?
It doesn't have to have a keyboard either.
Just something pretty cool

Lol, get lost stuff.
This kind of case don't need a new thread.
Go buy iPhone and don't come here back ever again.

D-bag
kristoff_sz said:
Go buy iPhone and don't come here back ever again.
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haha what a douche. You're going to have a hard time finding something at teh moment that's better than the tilt though. There's the iPhone 3g, but I think the plans are more $$ (dunno cause I'm on Tmo USA)
You could go with something like the touch cruise. I think that has a flush screen and no qwerty, but will feel just like the tilt otherwise. What about spending the big bucks and getting a diamond? I played with eth sprint version and thought it was pretty cool.
Best bet is to probably wait until the touch pro is available on ATT, or wait and see if any android phones come out of the woodwork.
I also want to throw a shout out for a Nokia N95-3. Decent size screen, but not huge. Can do much of what the tilt does, some better some worse. One plus/minus, depending on how you see it (wow people on XDA can have different opinions?? What a novel concept) is that it looks just like a normal phone.

Aww Stuff, I never expected you to post the weekly I'm done with Kaiser thread.
I'll give you my standard reply,
"Don't Go Away Mad, Just Go Away "
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Getting Fed up with iPhone

OK, guys and gals.................
I'm really getting fed up with this iPhone thing, every where I turn or hear, it's iPhone this, iPhone that. I Love my ATT Fuze but it breaks my heart when I keep seeing all this cool stuff that comes out for this stupid iPhone. What is MS doing or even HTC................They need to just sit down in focus on one phone that get do the world. Everytime they come out with a brand new phone there is one right behide it.
I don't like the iPhone at all "because of the OS on it", but they have so much things that come out that if the iphone had the WM6, I would be all over it. I just started this thread because I want to hear everyone esle mean set on this and why MS or HTC are not focusing on phone that they already have out now. Let us be very happy of what we have. Again I love my Fuze, but they iPhone is trying to shine more then my phone, I don't like that. I want me phone to be able to walk all over the iPhone.
Is there anyone feeling the same way as me............................

Apple is doing just what it has been doing for a long time with iPod
Keep it simple, stupid, cannot strike a chord more clearly.....

It's all about money, in my opinion.
MS are not doing much work on WM, probably because there's not much money in it for them. HTC meanwhile make all of their money from hardware so obviously they're going to keep releasing new models. Common sense really.
HTC do make some software to help drive hardware sales (TF3D, Album, Youtube app) but they are more concerned with looks than functionality. Apple, meanwhile, can sell a turd with an Apple logo on it at a premium price. That's not to say the OS is no good, it's just that they know they can leave out obvious features like MMS and copy/paste and still sell a shedload.
Apple also have the appstore, which is all about controlling the flow of money in the same way as iTunes. More and better developers are working on iPhone software because they can expect to sell more copies with less piracy due to the iPhone's stricter security and less-savvy user base.

Yeah and I can under stand about all about money, so they MS needs to see what Apple is doing because what I see they are just controlling sh*& when they put there products out there.

iPhone bashing is currently taking place @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467770
Thanks
Dave

My friend has an apple shoved up his arse!

I love my friend to death I really do, but to get him to think outside the box is impossible! I have a Droid X which I have mixed emotions on and was trying to have a conversation with him on the next phone to get. Knowing what was about ready to come out of his mouth I kept an open mind as I like Iphones, but I also like to keep my options open.
I was trying to tell him if the next Iphone that comes out doesn't have features that the newer phones are coming out with then Apple is going to seriously be behind the times. His answer to this? "Doesn't matter if the Iphone 5 has less features than the 4 because it will sell." I'm sorry, last time I checked I wasn't asking about a phone's sells I was asking about a phone that was packed with features. Then he starts to ramble about battery life and what isn't needed in a phone for a year or two down the line blah blah blah.
So thanks to him, I am probably not going to get a new phone EVER. Instead of talking me into a new Iphone, he has convinced me that all phones are complete and utterly useless.

I've learned to never ask an iPhone person for phone advice.
Next time he rambles, just let him go off and when he finishes, say, "Did you say something? I was too busy watching Transformers on my luxurious 4.3" screen to notice."

Lol. That reminds me of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
When I got sick of my 3gs I got an HTC Evo and tried to get my friend into android but it was impossible. Now over a year later he finally wants a Galaxy S 2!

I know people with iPhone's ... we don't really talk about phones much. We do our own thing and, when going out, focus on the drinking.
It is what it is.
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I came from an iPhone myself. I was an open minded iPhone user though. One day I decided to buy an Inspire and now I'll never go back. maybe he just needs to try one out?

iPhones are meh, but the iSack Grope looks decent as a media player.

That movie is hilarious!!

iPhone users will not accept that their behind the curve. No matter what though it will sell.

great movie
i know few people with iphones and they sat it fulfills their needs. they make phone calls, send sms and don't care

Did it hurt?
(didn't read OP)

martinflorek said:
great movie
i know few people with iphones and they sat it fulfills their needs. they make phone calls, send sms and don't care
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It fulfills their needs alright. Paying 500$ for a phone to send sms and do phonecalls. big win

mprou said:
It fulfills their needs alright. Paying 500$ for a phone to send sms and do phonecalls. big win
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i said them the same ...they payed like 750€

mprou said:
It fulfills their needs alright. Paying 500$ for a phone to send sms and do phonecalls. big win
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It can't even do that properly

the only thing i like about icrap i the sensitivity of the screen.
cool video, kinda reminds me of my friend. (buys an i phone being a sheep)