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Nexus 1 Updated to 2.2.2 Nexus S 2.3.2 What about Galaxy S ?

Just read the news about these two getting the update that fixes the SMS bug but no mention of any other 2.2.x O/S'd phones getting it. Can't be far off surely?
http://phandroid.com/

I just want that SMS fix, I've seen two I9000Ms do it. I pinged Samsung Canada on Twitter, we'll see what their response is.

v.2.3 2012
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v3.0 2050
maybe

My20 said:
v.2.3 2012
v2.4 2022
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maybe ayes maybe naws

My20 said:
v.2.3 2012
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(American variant releases not guaranteed)
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Fixed that for you.

i somewhere read that we can expect 2.3 for SGS for the end for the first quarter of the year...but are you people using stock ROMS ? i think Darky's ROM is working on a multi-device able to detect and flash devices accordingly, shouldn't that fix your sms problems ?
ps: i have the i9000, but what is "the sms problem", i don't think i have it..

Everybody bug samsung to skip 2.3 and prep for 3.0.

With carriers charging 15-20¢/SMS and having a free replacement (google voice, google talk, emails)
I really couldn't care less about SMS. I should even remove the SMS app from my phone.

Why do y'all want honeycomb (3.0), it's for tablet, not SmartPhones :|

t1mman said:
Why do y'all want honeycomb (3.0), it's for tablet, not SmartPhones :|
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It's for both.

t1mman said:
Why do y'all want honeycomb (3.0), it's for tablet, not SmartPhones :|
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So wrong, it hurts.

rumor
the rumor is here :
i like the way they say
"site called SamFirmwares – one we’ve never heard of before."
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they better all listen to these site ! i wonder how these big companies would react to
all the amazing roms out there !

JCopernicus said:
So wrong, it hurts.
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Is it? Then prove me wrong...
From google:
Honeycomb is the next version of the Android platform, designed from the ground up for devices with larger screen sizes, particularly tablets.
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http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/01/sneak-peak-of-android-30-honeycomb.html
That's the reason Google is naming "honeycomb" 3.0, and later Tablet optimisez releases will be 3.x where smartphone will stay on 2.x
Before saying crap at one another, do some research...

t1mman said:
Is it? Then prove me wrong...
From google:
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/01/sneak-peak-of-android-30-honeycomb.html
That's the reason Google is naming "honeycomb" 3.0, and later Tablet optimisez releases will be 3.x where smartphone will stay on 2.x
Before saying crap at one another, do some research...
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It's literally hurting my brain that you think that. Check back after 3.0 line is cut and put up on AOSP, you'll see all the honeycomb roms(for phones) floating around.

JCopernicus said:
It's literally hurting my brain that you think that. Check back after 3.0 line is cut and put up on AOSP, you'll see all the honeycomb roms(for phones) floating around.
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You can get rom floating around of about anything, doesn't mean it's made for it... You can even get a whole Linux distrubution working on SGS, still it's not "official" or optimised...
Still, nothing will be official and Honeycomb is still optimised for Tablet. I don't know why your "brain hurts", but when google sais their thing is optimised for something, since they made the thing, you'd better beleive them!
hell, you can put a Corvette engine in a Civic, still it's not meant or optimised for.

t1mman said:
You can get rom floating around of about anything, doesn't mean it's made for it... You can even get a whole Linux distrubution working on SGS, still it's not "official" or optimised...
Still, nothing will be official and Honeycomb is still optimised for Tablet. I don't know why your "brain hurts", but when google sais their thing is optimised for something, since they made the thing, you'd better beleive them!
hell, you can put a Corvette engine in a Civic, still it's not meant or optimised for.
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http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html
Honeycomb adds "tablet" (ie big screen) specific support. It's not an independent branch, feature sets will trickle down accordingly to phones, they will both be 3.0.
P.S. A rom built from AOSP is as official as you can get in regards to Android.

JCopernicus said:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html
Honeycomb adds "tablet" (ie big screen) specific support. It's not an independent branch, feature sets will trickle down accordingly to phones, they will both be 3.0.
P.S. A rom built from AOSP is as official as you can get in regards to Android.
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You can't read title can't you?
"New UI designed from the ground up for tablets"
The reason it's (honeycomb) taking another number (3.0) instead of following the same (2.x) is because it's for tablets...
as far as AOSP vs. Official, their's a huge difference between official source code (from google) vs official rom (from samsung).
I can't tell the future, but I can most certainly say that Kies would offer 2.4 hell before 3.0 for our devices (which are smartphones, not tablet).

t1mman said:
You can't read title can't you?
"New UI designed from the ground up for tablets"
The reason it's (honeycomb) taking another number (3.0) instead of following the same (2.x) is because it's for tablets...
as far as AOSP vs. Official, their's a huge difference between official source code (from google) vs official rom (from samsung).
I can't tell the future, but I can most certainly say that Kies would offer 2.4 hell before 3.0 for our devices (which are smartphones, not tablet).
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The large screen views (which never existed) are built from the "ground up" because, guess what? They never existed in the first place.
The reason it's taking 3.0 is because it's a huge jump in feature set, and qualifies as a version realease and not just a point release.
If a device has a certain feature it can access certain API from the android OS. If a device doesn't, then it can't. It's that simple.
"tablets" have the big screen feature and they can access the nested view API's. You don't know how android works. there is ONE line, which sits at 2.3.2, and it's device independent.
Just like the Nexus S can access the NFC api's because it has an NFC chip.
AOSP is the code that google/samsung/moto/acer/etc pull from, and build more on top.
Cyanogen roms are on par and equivalent(better actually) as google's roms, you can't get more "official" than AOSP. MFG roms are actually less true to AOSP as they are modified. You probably won't see 3.0 on the current galaxy line at all, but that has nothing to do whether it works on there or not.

Chill out dude! Take a deep breath....
This is getting nowhere, running in circle...
I'm pretty sure we won't see Honeycomb as a release by the makers (Samsungs, Motorola, LG, HTC, name em) on any smartphone. Don't know why this is such a big deal for you and what you don't get on the whole deal but if you want,
You can bookmark this thread and if you see an official honecomb as an official release by samsung or LG or HTC or google on a Smartphone, revive it from the archives and rub it on my face, I'll gladly take the fall...

Chill out? I think I'm just typing normally on a keyboard? Maybe I'm smashing keys, and don't recognize it?
You don't understand how android works if you think it won't appear on phones, we're not going around in circles. You're just wrong.

Maybe not HC - How About ICS?

I saw an interesting article on the recent Google event. Since there has been some question about the S7 getting HC, because it does not meet the screen resolution requirements, maybe it will get Ice Cream:
"After Honeycomb comes Ice Cream Sandwich in the fourth quarter, which incorporates Honeycomb features but works on phones and Google TV devices as well. Job No. 1 for Ice Cream Sandwich is reducing the fragmentation problem that makes it hard to write one Android app that works on multiple devices, but Google was cagey on new features coming to make that possible. Also coming with Ice Cream Sandwich is a facial tracking technology. "
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20061541-251.html?tag=nl.e404

I can assure you the s7 will have hc. Not sure when but it will happen. I booted a test today other then having touch driver issues and a few other problems its there. And its pretty lol.
sent from a tower

would people PLEASE stop going on about the stupid (and never confirmed) myth of honeycomb needing high res screens. It does not and will run happily one lower spec screens
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It's Android. Any OS version can be put on any device, with enough will and skill.
I got the S7 because of the screen size; personally, I feel a 10.1" loses the portability factor and I might as well be using a netbook. Having used HC on the XOOM, I'm thinking that the S7 will be the perfect platform for it. 7" is definitely not too small, and is probably just the right size (I know; that's what she said).

DJ_Steve said:
would people PLEASE stop going on about the stupid (and never confirmed) myth of honeycomb needing high res screens. It does not and will run happily one lower spec screens
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I wasn't speaking of if it was possible to put it on the S7 (yes, I'm sure it is); I have seen some posts that indicate that Google has set the standard for HC support above 800X480, which may mean that Dell won't upgrade. I'm not sure I've seen it confirmed anywhere. I was just pointing out that ICS may provide the same functionality, and would definitely work with the S7 resolution.
My OP was speaking of Dell releases, not outside developer rooting and hacking.

Z4nd4r said:
It's Android. Any OS version can be put on any device, with enough will and skill.
I got the S7 because of the screen size; personally, I feel a 10.1" loses the portability factor and I might as well be using a netbook. Having used HC on the XOOM, I'm thinking that the S7 will be the perfect platform for it. 7" is definitely not too small, and is probably just the right size (I know; that's what she said).
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I agree on the size.

Is the Galaxy Tab a good investment community-wise ?

Hello,
I joined the xda community about a year ago, first with my Htc Magic, then with my HD2. I have the opportunity to get a Samsung Galaxy Tab from some carrier for little extra money of my current Internet plan. And for 10 €/month more, I could get the new 10.1 version...
Although I do know that logically I should choose the 10.1, I still consider the 7'. Why ? Well, it would be cheaper at first. Then, I like the 7' size more and I'm not sure I would need Dual-Core processor for Internet surfing ! Also, the 10' model's phone app is blocked by the carrier, while it's not for the 7'...
But I digress !
Before to sign up to the plan, I'd like to take the pulse of the community. It's something I always do prior to purchasing a new device. I'm use to the HD2 orgy of Roms and OS and I must say that the less-furnished Development section for the Tab leaves me thinking. I don't doubt of the quaility of the ROMS but I wonder if devs are not already leaving the Tab's development for more recent Tablets and devices.
So...If you are a serial flasher like me, is the Tab a good invesmet ? I'd love to flash later CyanogenMod releases when there will be actual Tablet versions of it (for the moment, CM7 on a tablet is still in its early months) and of course Honeycomb or even better, Ice Cream Sandwhich. Will there be dev's at that moment ? Of course, I know it's not an easy question to answer but it's more about the community strengh until today actually...
Thanks and see you soon hopefully !

cm7 + tablet tweaks = win.
with roms, ill take quality over quantity, even tho there are only 3 2.3 roms, they are all badass.
the tab7 has been the best tech device ive ever owned, i have an ipad but it lives in the draw, its just way to big todo anything with other than using it in bed or on the toilet.
I suggest get the 7inch or wait for the new 7inch (who knows when that will come)
the only negative i have is that theres so many new devices out with dual core ect... but so far it hasnt stopped me from doing anything that these newer devices can do (you can play tegra games via chainfire) but eventually it will become an issue i guess.

The carrier matters.
More dev work is being done for the GSM variants at the moment. But spacemoose1 does have an alpha hc rom and dev continues in that.

Thank you for your anwser and I do agree about quality over quantity...
I'm aware of tablet tweaks from CM7, I already used them on my 4'3 HD2 screen but that not much in comparison of the many tweaks TouchWiz seems to bring to the Android 2.2 UI. Of course, overlay means slower device but oh well...
Is it possible to easily save/back up the stock Android Rom it will be shipped with in order to restore if I need to return it under warranty ?
Thanks !

DannyBiker said:
Thank you for your anwser and I do agree about quality over quantity...
I'm aware of tablet tweaks from CM7, I already used them on my 4'3 HD2 screen but that not much in comparison of the many tweaks TouchWiz seems to bring to the Android 2.2 UI. Of course, overlay means slower device but oh well...
Is it possible to easily save/back up the stock Android Rom it will be shipped with in order to restore if I need to return it under warranty ?
Thanks !
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Yeh, you can do a nandroid backup, or just find your stock firmware, from the website sam-firmware (i think thats it) or just brick it

[Q] Official ICS Build Incoming?

I have a cousin who works with B&N, and he says that they are rushing to get the 3.0 kernel on the NC to accompany their locked-down skin. He says that there are some incompatabiliies, but that they have made progress. What are your thoughts? Is he crazy? Are we ever going to get a proper ICS OTA?

If B&N drops 3.0 kernel source for the Nook Color, the devs here will be quite happy because the current old kernel is the major impediment to ICS on Nook Color.
You sure they aren't doing this just for the Nook Tablet?

3.x is honey comb, not ICS. They'll prolly skip that all-together.

gallahad2000 said:
3.x is honey comb, not ICS. They'll prolly skip that all-together.
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Talking about the linux kernel.

It makes little sense to me for them to update the core Android OS and Linux kernel if their reader, custom apps, and the apps in their store work fine with Froyo. But if they're going to keep selling the NC as the budget media tablet model for a while longer then a more up-to-date Android version makes sense in avoiding any possible compatibility issues down the road that could prevent them from seamlessly bringing the latest and best versions of Android apps across to the B&N market. Their separate B&N market wouldn't be very sustainable or a good selling feature if they had to only offer older versions and/or ask developers to add backporting compatability fixes for a two year old version of Android. Then again, that's just a lot of speculating on my part

I don't have hope for that, in fact, I doubt it.
They just released v.1.4.1 and it still is Froyo, I don't think they implement ICS for NC.

I could actually see them doing this just so that it will be easier for devs to convert their already tablet friendly ICS apps for the BN market.
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I would think they would like to keep the operating environment the same across units (if possible). This will cause less customer confusion/dissatisfaction and fewer support issues. Apple IOS is a good example of this IMO.

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I would think they would like to keep the operating environment the same across units (if possible). This will cause less customer confusion/dissatisfaction and fewer support issues. Apple IOS is a good example of this IMO.
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Apple allows old devices to upgrade to newer iOS versions (my gf's 3g is running iOS 5). They just cripple the features they don't want those devices to have (siri, folders, etc). Apple's relative lack of issues comes from controlling the hardware (no powerVR, tegra, qualcomm incompatibilities, short driver list), OS (no carrier or manufacturer modifications) and app store (too many bugs and your app is gone).
I doubt B&N would drop the full functionality of ICS on their customers (especially when they've fenced them in from froyo). ICS would open the door to tablet-centric apps which would help them compete with Amazon. It will most definitely come to the Tablet but I wouldn't expect it to come to the Color (since they need to differentiate the models to justify the price difference).

Would be great if they did release it, but lets face the truth, its unlikely.
If you guys want ICS your best bet is buying dalingrin and / or fattire a beer.
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Would be great if they did release it, but lets face the truth, its unlikely.
If you guys want ICS your best bet is buying dalingrin and / or fattire a beer.
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Maybe true, but if this works it would certainly give dalingrin and fattire some help with the issues they're having, not to mention speed up the entire process.

Limvot said:
Maybe true, but if this works it would certainly give dalingrin and fattire some help with the issues they're having, not to mention speed up the entire process.
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If what works? I'd love to have official ICS on my NC, but as others have said, they're still using a fluffy coating on Froyo. No GB and no HC means ICS is highly unlikely.
Now what would be very nice would be an updated kernel, as well as some direct contact with B&N techs about drivers for the chipset and other hardware. But I find that to be unlikely.

The newer Nook Tablet is based on Gingerbread, isn't it? Perhaps they're working on this first and foremost to crank out a third future device that supports APIs from ICS such as fragments. The updated code would then trickle down to Nook Tablet and possibly eventually NC.
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If what works? I'd love to have official ICS on my NC, but as others have said, they're still using a fluffy coating on Froyo. No GB and no HC means ICS is highly unlikely.
Now what would be very nice would be an updated kernel, as well as some direct contact with B&N techs about drivers for the chipset and other hardware. But I find that to be unlikely.
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No HC doesn't mean anything as it was not open source... This is not completely unthinkable. Remember the NC was on 2.1 before the 1.2 release where they upped it to 2.2.
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votinh said:
I don't have hope for that, in fact, I doubt it.
They just released v.1.4.1 and it still is Froyo, I don't think they implement ICS for NC.
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Of course, 1.4.1 came out just before ICS source was released, so maybe B&N figured they do a quick patch of the existing ROM, rather than go through all the work to do a rebuild on GB and then to ICS...

any news/rumors about this?

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any news/rumors about this?
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Other than slow but steady progress on the CM9 build (and no new releases for now), no.
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Of course, 1.4.1 came out just before ICS source was released, so maybe B&N figured they do a quick patch of the existing ROM, rather than go through all the work to do a rebuild on GB and then to ICS...
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You have more faith in the B&N corporate staff than I do, but your optimism may be warranted, given that the NT doesn't seem to be totally ignored by the press in the same way the NC was.

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... You have more faith in the B&N corporate staff than I do, but your optimism may be warranted, given that the NT doesn't seem to be totally ignored by the press in the same way the NC was.
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I wonder how much other integration B&N is looking for with other content providers to match what Amazon is doing. I would think upgrading to ICS would make some business sense, in that with a fresher underlying OS, you might be able to keep app developers in the fold working on the NT.

cmstlist said:
The newer Nook Tablet is based on Gingerbread, isn't it? Perhaps they're working on this first and foremost to crank out a third future device that supports APIs from ICS such as fragments. The updated code would then trickle down to Nook Tablet and possibly eventually NC.
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From what I understand... The new Nook Tablet has a locked bootloader, more or less precluding it from easy rom replacement.
Though, perhaps I have been misinformed.

Yoinx said:
From what I understand... The new Nook Tablet has a locked bootloader, more or less precluding it from easy rom replacement.
Though, perhaps I have been misinformed.
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Difficult if not impossible for 3rd parties providing roms but not for B&N. They have the security keys allowing them to provide whatever rom they choose within the hardware limits.

What tablet apps are you running and do they work as "tablet" apps?

After receiving a shiny used Nook Color from Ebay, I immediately flashed the latest daily of CM9 (ICE) to EMMC and played around with it for a while. I installed several "tablet" apps from the Market, and I was very impressed by the formatting and presentation.
Unfortunately, performance was marginal at best, so I decided to flash the "official stable" version of CM7. I installed the same tablet apps as before and noticed that they were not displaying in "tablet mode". Landscape, yes, but not tablet-formatted.
For example, running Pocket Informant in landscape mode in CM9 provides a nice graphical notebook-like format, but CM7 displays the same as a simple landscape calendar, much like on my DROID Bionic.
So from this, I conclude that CM9 is a "real" tablet OS, while CM7 presents the Nook Color to the apps not as a tablet but as a high-resolution phone. Can anyone else confirm this? I absolutely LOVE the performance of CM7--it really flies and is very responsive--but long for the true "tablet" functionality of CM9.
That said, I'd love some input about how landscape mode works on the OS you have installed, and what "tablet-mode" apps actually render as a tablet.
1. What version of the OS are you running?
2. What "tablet" apps are you running?
3. Of those "tablet" apps you are running, what actually render as "tablet" apps?
Thanks!

Jim Barr said:
So from this, I conclude that CM9 is a "real" tablet OS, while CM7 presents the Nook Color to the apps not as a tablet but as a high-resolution phone. Can anyone else confirm this?!
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Yes, that is 100% correct. CM7 is based on Android 2.x and CM9 is based on Android 4.x. Android 2.x was designed for phones, Android 3.x was the first version to be designed with tablets in mind (and only tablets; phone functionality was stripped out), and Android 4.x folded both capabilities back into a single OS version. Because of the rush-job Google did in order to release Android 3.0 to compete with the iPad they didn't release the source code, which means it couldn't be properly ported over to the Nook Color or other Android tablets that were built with Android 2.x. However, they did release the full source code for 4.x in November which means this is the first time we have the source code for a version of Android actually designed for tablets
Because of these differences many apps have been built to require Android 3.x or higher (which includes CM9) in order to show the tablet layout. Maybe some of those are arbitrary but I'm sure others are taking advantage of system calls and/or UI calls that have only been added to the API since Android 3.x

Wait for the new hardware accelerated build fattire & co. work on right now.
It should be able to speed up things quite a bit thanks to a new SGX driver release.

It's still really early in the game. There's only one official ICS tablet out there - the Asus Transformer Prime. People were expecting many more ICS tablet announcements at CES a few weeks ago - didn't happen. I expect it's because ICS is based off of Honeycomb which didn't exactly set the world on fire and wasn't a big draw for app developers. But now that the ICS is going to be a joint phone/tablet OS - it should spark developers to greater heights. I also think the 7" form factor is going to be more and more popular also... and apps will be developed accordingly. Reader apps like Kindle look great on the nook because they were developed for the smaller form factors... others should follow suit.

Only a few games built for phone (Monopoly and some dice game the kids play are the ones that come to mind) don't render properly on the NC (running CM9). Otherwise, there are a few that won't do landscape (some of the ESPN and some cookbook apps), but I've had good luck otherwise.

Huh - Monopoly runs fine on my emmc install of the latest 2/2 nightly - and it did on the others as well...

I was playing with X-Plane on CM7 with great success. Can't wait to see if it works on the 2/2 nightly.

I agree with the OP. As I am currently going back and forth between cm7 and cm9 the apps are not responding in the same way. Perfect example is gmail. Love the interface on ICS! However, it's just not the same experience on cm7. Google's Currents is the same on both. Google Docs (the newly updated version) seems to work the same on the both as well.

Jim Barr said:
After receiving a shiny used Nook Color from Ebay, I immediately flashed the latest daily of CM9 (ICE) to EMMC and played around with it for a while. I installed several "tablet" apps from the Market, and I was very impressed by the formatting and presentation.
Unfortunately, performance was marginal at best, so I decided to flash the "official stable" version of CM7. I installed the same tablet apps as before and noticed that they were not displaying in "tablet mode". Landscape, yes, but not tablet-formatted.
For example, running Pocket Informant in landscape mode in CM9 provides a nice graphical notebook-like format, but CM7 displays the same as a simple landscape calendar, much like on my DROID Bionic.
So from this, I conclude that CM9 is a "real" tablet OS, while CM7 presents the Nook Color to the apps not as a tablet but as a high-resolution phone. Can anyone else confirm this? I absolutely LOVE the performance of CM7--it really flies and is very responsive--but long for the true "tablet" functionality of CM9.
That said, I'd love some input about how landscape mode works on the OS you have installed, and what "tablet-mode" apps actually render as a tablet.
1. What version of the OS are you running?
2. What "tablet" apps are you running?
3. Of those "tablet" apps you are running, what actually render as "tablet" apps?
Thanks!
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AFAIK Tablet mode only exists for honeycomb and newer. Any Android device on a 2.x build is seen as a handset.
That should explain what you are seeing
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Sam Adams said:
It's still really early in the game. There's only one official ICS tablet out there - the Asus Transformer Prime. People were expecting many more ICS tablet announcements at CES a few weeks ago - didn't happen. I expect it's because ICS is based off of Honeycomb which didn't exactly set the world on fire and wasn't a big draw for app developers. But now that the ICS is going to be a joint phone/tablet OS - it should spark developers to greater heights. I also think the 7" form factor is going to be more and more popular also... and apps will be developed accordingly. Reader apps like Kindle look great on the nook because they were developed for the smaller form factors... others should follow suit.
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I never used early builds of Honeycomb, but the version on my wife's transformer is great. Granted I prefer ICS on my transformer prime... but the versions (which I assume are more stable and way less buggy) of honeycomb out now seem really good