Hey Guys,
in the last few days I noticed following strange battery issues:
When I go to bed in the evening I plug my phone to the charger,
in the Morning I have a green LED and battery is at 100%.
A few minutes later the Battery has a massive Drop from 100%
(From 100% to 58% or 100% to 38% or 100% to 61%)
After I noticed this, I installed Current Widget to log the battery
consumption.
Here is what the Log says:
2011/06/22 02:16:15,64mA,99%,4.205V
2011/06/22 02:18:20,56mA,99%,4.205V
2011/06/22 02:19:39,54mA,99%,4.205V
2011/06/22 02:22:00,50mA,100%,4.205V
2011/06/22 02:23:00,48mA,100%,4.205V
2011/06/22 02:26:04,-104mA,100%,4.175V
2011/06/22 02:28:12,-104mA,100%,4.175V
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2011/06/22 08:24:33,-48mA,100%,3.874V
2011/06/22 08:25:34,-78mA,100%,3.874V
2011/06/22 08:26:34,-46mA,61%,3.869V
2011/06/22 08:27:34,-154mA,61%,3.869V
Two whole Logs can be seen here: http://pastebin.com/yfzBcJk3
So my question is:
Why is the battery depleting between 02:26:12 an 08:24:33
while still plugged in?
Is this a Bug?
How can i fix it?
At the moment im running my IncS on Android Revolution HD 1.0.2 ROM
(I have noticed this also with 1.0.1 and Unitiy Kernel...)
It's not a good idea to leave the phone pluged to the charger. When its fully charged i always take the charger out.
There is several threads about that, e.g. this one.
same here m8
but i found, that cause is Current Widget. Uninstall it and everything gonna be ok. if not - install Power Tutor and find the way your power disappearing.
i have around 1% battery drop every 2 hours and 30-40% with Current Widget installed. (on stock and Android Revolution HD ROMs)
jkolner said:
It's not a good idea to leave the phone pluged to the charger. When its fully charged i always take the charger out.
There is several threads about that, e.g. this one.
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Erm ... when I am asleep I wont plug out my Phone, because, well I am sleeping
Well if you read through this section, you will see a couple of threads with this discussed.
The issue you are facing is common.
Once the phone is completely charged to 100%, the phone automatically stops drawing power from the charger.
So lets say you start charging your phone at 2:15, it may charge up fully by 3:15.
Though it is still connected to the charger, the phone stops charging once it reaches 100%.
Then the phone starts drawing power for its normal usage, standby, display, any apps running in the background etc.
So by the time you wake up at 8:15 (or wenever) the phone wen connected will still show 100%, but after unplugging in a couple of minutes, it will drop down to the actual battery percentage.
nothing wrong with the phone.
i noticed the same with my earlier x10 after the 2.1 update as well.
letmedanz said:
Well if you read through this section, you will see a couple of threads with this discussed.
The issue you are facing is common.
Once the phone is completely charged to 100%, the phone automatically stops drawing power from the charger.
So lets say you start charging your phone at 2:15, it may charge up fully by 3:15.
Though it is still connected to the charger, the phone stops charging once it reaches 100%.
Then the phone starts drawing power for its normal usage, standby, display, any apps running in the background etc.
So by the time you wake up at 8:15 (or wenever) the phone wen connected will still show 100%, but after unplugging in a couple of minutes, it will drop down to the actual battery percentage.
nothing wrong with the phone.
i noticed the same with my earlier x10 after the 2.1 update as well.
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Nice explanation! Always wondered what was going on here. So key is not to charge it over night?
letmedanz said:
Well if you read through this section, you will see a couple of threads with this discussed.
The issue you are facing is common.
Once the phone is completely charged to 100%, the phone automatically stops drawing power from the charger.
So lets say you start charging your phone at 2:15, it may charge up fully by 3:15.
Though it is still connected to the charger, the phone stops charging once it reaches 100%.
Then the phone starts drawing power for its normal usage, standby, display, any apps running in the background etc.
So by the time you wake up at 8:15 (or wenever) the phone wen connected will still show 100%, but after unplugging in a couple of minutes, it will drop down to the actual battery percentage.
nothing wrong with the phone.
i noticed the same with my earlier x10 after the 2.1 update as well.
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Thank you for the explanation.
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Nice explanation! Always wondered what was going on here. So key is not to charge it over night?
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well, key is to charge it as long as required.
Once it reaches 100%, any additional charging is a waste of electricity
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well, key is to charge it as long as required.
Once it reaches 100%, any additional charging is a waste of electricity
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Good point! Do you know if the phone's alarm still works when the phone is off? This was the case for my old i8910 hd and was quite handy for saving battery at night
UPDATE: No it doesn't!
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My Diamond won't charge to full capacity! I tried to charge it overnight two times and the first time my telephone charged it was 70 procent charged after 1 night. (7/8 hours) and the second night (5/6 hours) with the same percent when i woke up. I had it once 100% but after installing hardSPL and the hardreset it drop instantly to 40%. (i just installed that , and nothing more.)
Connected the telephone to the charger again and i've got a full lit led ring. After turning the device on the ring went 'charging' again. The capacity was 75%. In windows.
kenny89 said:
My Diamond won't charge to full capacity! I tried to charge it overnight two times and the first time my telephone charged it was 70 procent charged after 1 night. (7/8 hours) and the second night (5/6 hours) with the same percent when i woke up. I had it once 100% but after installing hardSPL and the hardreset it drop instantly to 40%. (i just installed that , and nothing more.)
Connected the telephone to the charger again and i've got a full lit led ring. After turning the device on the ring went 'charging' again. The capacity was 75%. In windows.
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Definatly sounds like a faulty cell in your battery
At least its not the phone thats broken, a battery is easily replaced.
I also have a strange battery issue! Mine won't charge if the Diamonf is switched on.
The Battery only will charge if I switch the Touch Diamond OFF, If it’s turned off, not only the display. With Running OS, when I plug the AC adaptor, it only show few seconds the charging breathing LEDs and then stops, the indicator also doesn’t show the charge symbol but the full charged battery instead but the LED indicator is not full white as it should be in full charge state and the battery of course drains down… I’ve tested with another AC adaptor, another USB charger, even car charger (I have the HTC original one), still the same behaviour.
Could this be related to the developer HardSPL? I also have this behaviour after that installation... weird
Any kind of help would be appreciated!
Its unlikely its the hardspl. I would guess hardware issue, but if it charges while off then thats unlikely too.
I assume you've tried a hard reset already to rule out any application interferring with it?
Also what happens when you plug into your PC? same thing?
My best guess at this stage with most likely at the top:
1) Software issue - try hard reset
2) Battery issue - try another battery, or once fully charged look for a big drop in battery very quickly. There are some battery manager/monitors you can download which can monitor the voltage for you. If you can show me the drop in voltage of the battery i can conclusivly tell you if the battery has a fault.
3) Hardware issue with the phone - that would just suck!
update: Replaced my battery and charged it through the adapter, full 100%.But here's something that is stranger... I installed the battery in another diamond and that battery indicator was 100% full..
I hope that it was a battery problem, because i had so much troubles with the diamond so far! The new battery is lasting much longer, it's been 6hours and it didn't even lost a bar. (still 100%)
kenny89 said:
update: Replaced my battery and charged it through the adapter, full 100%.But here's something that is stranger... I installed the battery in another diamond and that battery indicator was 100% full..
I hope that it was a battery problem, because i had so much troubles with the diamond so far! The new battery is lasting much longer, it's been 6hours and it didn't even lost a bar. (still 100%)
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A fully charged cell has about 4.3v across it. As its drained of current the voltage drops to about 3.3v, when its fully depleted.
The phone uses this voltage level to display the current capacity of the battery
If a cell fails in the battery, as its capacity reduces its not able to provide enough current. Power = current x voltage
If the phone tries to draw normal current, the voltage drops excessivly to conserve the above formula. This shows in the phone as a decrease in battery capacity. The voltage across the battery drops to below 3.3v before the remaining cells are depleted, and although there is still enough current to suply the phone, there isnt enough voltage. Overall there isnt enough power (P=IV)
A rested battery may show enough voltage for a short while (when you first put it in) but the voltage will drop drasticly as soon as any significant current is drawn.
This is a really common failure in a bettery, and you can spot it very quickly when you see sharp drops in the battery meter.
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Also what happens when you plug into your PC? same thing?
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Yes, same thing...
My best guess at this stage with most likely at the top:
1) Software issue - try hard reset
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Don of course and even reflashed without installing any application, just synced with PC... same issue. In the mean time I even reflashed the stock SPL to try... and the Diamond is now charging in Off modus, so I'll turn it on tomorrow to give it a trial
2) Battery issue - try another battery, or once fully charged look for a big drop in battery very quickly. There are some battery manager/monitors you can download which can monitor the voltage for you. If you can show me the drop in voltage of the battery i can conclusivly tell you if the battery has a fault.
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I guess the Battery has an issue, but none is available quickly in my country, I'll have to try to order one abroad... let's check...
Thanks anyway for your advices...
I flashed my TD from 1.37.081 to 1.37.707.1 today and my battery went to 30 percent and not long after it wend dead again.
But there's something strange that i've discovered today.. my charger charges my phone really slow (with original cable and charger) but with the 3rd party adapter i charged todat (adapt htc, specifications are the same of the original adapter) it's normal and my phone doesn't warm up ( max 20 degrees celcius) so much as with the HTC adapter (40 or more degrees celcius?).
I flashed my TD from 1.37.081 to 1.37.707.1 today and my battery went to 30 percent and not long after it wend dead again.
But there's something strange that i've discovered today.. my charger charges my phone really slow (with original cable and charger) but with the 3rd party adapter i charged todat (adapt htc, specifications are the same of the original adapter) it's normal and my phone doesn't warm up ( max 20 degrees celcius) so much as with the HTC adapter (40 or more degrees celcius?).
Check the current on the 3rd party charger.
kenny89 said:
(adapt htc, specifications are the same of the original adapter)
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output 5V/1A , same specs. input is a little different (110-220hz, 0,2A) against (110-220hz, 0,15A).. but that isn't a problem right? The output is the same.
Thats really strange. Yeah its the output that matters,
There should be no difference at all!
Yeah.. my Touch Diamond is f**** up as h****.. that's not only the problem. I used some GPRS today and my phone makes noises just like when you put a telephone next a speaker and it receives sms/calls. That's when i'm surfing on the web :O!
On top of that, my speaker quits after x seconds/minutes and doesn't make any sound at all and then works after x seconds/minutes. But it doesn't work after x seconds in the Touch Flo mp3player. So my ' precious diamond' is pretty worthless right now.
XzaniX said:
I also have a strange battery issue! Mine won't charge if the Diamonf is switched on.
The Battery only will charge if I switch the Touch Diamond OFF, If it’s turned off, not only the display. With Running OS, when I plug the AC adaptor, it only show few seconds the charging breathing LEDs and then stops, the indicator also doesn’t show the charge symbol but the full charged battery instead but the LED indicator is not full white as it should be in full charge state and the battery of course drains down… I’ve tested with another AC adaptor, another USB charger, even car charger (I have the HTC original one), still the same behaviour.
Could this be related to the developer HardSPL? I also have this behaviour after that installation... weird
Any kind of help would be appreciated!
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Check your settings: settings > power > checked off the "when device is turned on, do not charge...." ?
kenny89 said:
Yeah.. my Touch Diamond is f**** up as h****.. that's not only the problem. I used some GPRS today and my phone makes noises just like when you put a telephone next a speaker and it receives sms/calls. That's when i'm surfing on the web :O!
On top of that, my speaker quits after x seconds/minutes and doesn't make any sound at all and then works after x seconds/minutes. But it doesn't work after x seconds in the Touch Flo mp3player. So my ' precious diamond' is pretty worthless right now.
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That noise is caused by a harmonic of the GSM signal. It sounds like the grounding is not correct, either for the speaker or possibly a whole section of the circuit.
Not good!
I have the same thing - battery left on overnight does not result in 100% indication. Yet it often creeps up much higher after I have removed the charger! Have come to the conclusion that it is a software problem - terminal voltage tests OK.
bakman said:
Check your settings: settings > power > checked off the "when device is turned on, do not charge...." ?
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-hi Bakman, of course this was my first check Anyway, is getting worse, now it even won't charge when switched off So I'll send it for repair I guess... I hate to wait for a new device, pay a huge amount of money for it and when you finally get it, it's defective
robinbb said:
I have the same thing - battery left on overnight does not result in 100% indication. Yet it often creeps up much higher after I have removed the charger! Have come to the conclusion that it is a software problem - terminal voltage tests OK.
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Same issue here. When charging the phone while it's *on*, it results in the indicator stopping at 75%-80%, no matter how long I charge.
I think once when charging through PC/USB, this did not happen and the battery did charge to full.
A soft reset results in the indicator displaying 100% battery however.
So is this a battery problem, or software/hardware problem?
Ildefonse said:
Same issue here. When charging the phone while it's *on*, it results in the indicator stopping at 75%-80%, no matter how long I charge.
I think once when charging through PC/USB, this did not happen and the battery did charge to full.
A soft reset results in the indicator displaying 100% battery however.
So is this a battery problem, or software/hardware problem?
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Sounds definately like a s/w problem to me, they will have to provide a fix in a ROM update I guess. Mine is OK at the minute though. Is yours UK or grey import?
Err, I bought the WWE version in Holland. Actually someone bought it for me, but that's not the point.
I did find out that using the advanced config tool to disable the setting "GPRS auto attach" really saves a lot of battery power! Yesterday my phone was idling the whole day and night, and battery only dropped 10-20%.
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Apologies if this has been posted before. I recently flashed my phone with gingerbread (JVK) and since then, the USB charging have been more then a little bit screwy.
Usually i have my phone plugged into my PC while i am work. At some point during the day i will get the message telling me that its finished charging. If i unplug it at this point the battery will instantly drop to between 70 and 80 percent, sometimes it goes as low as 50%!!!! If i plug the phone back in it will continue charging for a while and then i will get another message telling me that the battery is at 100%. If i unplug it then it still drops, but to a higher percentage. I am able to get the battery to 99% by plugging it in and unplugging it a number of times.
The odd thing is that if i charge it from mains, it goes to 100% and stays there the first time.
Any ideas?
somehow same issue for me for what ever gingerbread (jv1/jvk/jvb) i have use.
but mine is different, if i got it unplug immediately after it saids "full charged" it will shows 100%.
BUT if i leave the charger on after it saids "full charged" for another few more hrs say 6 hrs, after unplugging.. it will immediately drop to 90% or even less some time.
well for js5/7/8 don't have such issue, that means after i leave the charger plug for overnight even its already full charged, after unplugging it still shows 99-100% !
wondering if any jv1/k/b user encounting this same issue?
pennzoilgtr said:
somehow same issue for me for what ever gingerbread (jv1/jvk/jvb) i have use.
but mine is different, if i got it unplug immediately after it saids "full charged" it will shows 100%.
BUT if i leave the charger on after it saids "full charged" for another few more hrs say 6 hrs, after unplugging.. it will immediately drop to 90% or even less some time.
well for js5/7/8 don't have such issue, that means after i leave the charger plug for overnight even its already full charged, after unplugging it still shows 99-100% !
wondering if any jv1/k/b user encounting this same issue?
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If you are rooted, then delete battery stats, shutdown your phone, and leave it on the charger till it is 100% full. Then leave in on the charger again, start your phone, and delete battery stats again. Reboot your phone, and you should be ok.
For the second part, in which your phone after fully charged and left on charger lost some percentage after unplugging, it seems that Gingerbread stops charging once battery is full, and do not continue, even if charger is plugged in, once it'll lost some power. Some older phones does this (S45 for example).
Out of curiosity, what kernel are you using?
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If you are rooted, then delete battery stats, shutdown your phone, and leave it on the charger till it is 100% full. Then leave in on the charger again, start your phone, and delete battery stats again. Reboot your phone, and you should be ok.
For the second part, in which your phone after fully charged and left on charger lost some percentage after unplugging, it seems that Gingerbread stops charging once battery is full, and do not continue, even if charger is plugged in, once it'll lost some power. Some older phones does this (S45 for example).
Out of curiosity, what kernel are you using?
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ok, as for battery stats i did the wipe, but i did not shutdown and do a full charge
as for kernel i did not really try on stock kernel though, i started using jv's series with CF's kernel or supercurio's hacked kernel.
maybe you are right that gingerbread stop charging after the battery is fully charged, but to my understanding i thought that is supposed it run on a/c once its fully charged? leaving the battery disconnect until you unplug it and it will starts to use the battery.
for froyo wise i presume it runs on a/c while leaving the battery disconnected, after overnight of full charged the phone is cool and don't feel like the battery is still "charging" after it reaches 100%
I had this problem too when i was with xxjvk. batterystats.bin was always automatically deleted by system once charger was connect/disconnect (couldnt remember...).
if the charger was unplugged right after fully charged notification, the phone worked perfectly fine and battery life was much better than with xsjw8..
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rinl said:
I had this problem too when i was with xxjvk. batterystats.bin was always automatically deleted by system once charger was connect/disconnect (couldnt remember...).
if the charger was unplugged right after fully charged notification, the phone worked perfectly fine and battery life was much better than with xsjw8..
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And do you suffer battery drops after unplugging from already full charged for few hours?
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And do you suffer battery drops after unplugging from already full charged for few hours?
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yes, indeed.
Actually, i have mentioned in this thread before...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12950876&postcount=6
rinl said:
yes, indeed.
Actually, i have mentioned in this thread before...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12950876&postcount=6
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Ok seems like jvb doesn't solve the issue... I'm on goatrips's jvb at the moment. I got the make sure that I unplug immediately after it said full charged otherwise the percentage would drop like 10-20% if I leave it connected overnight.
Wondering how come there is so many jvk/jvb tester/users around but seems no one mention about it.
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Virnik0 said:
If you are rooted, then delete battery stats, shutdown your phone, and leave it on the charger till it is 100% full. Then leave in on the charger again, start your phone, and delete battery stats again. Reboot your phone, and you should be ok.
For the second part, in which your phone after fully charged and left on charger lost some percentage after unplugging, it seems that Gingerbread stops charging once battery is full, and do not continue, even if charger is plugged in, once it'll lost some power. Some older phones does this (S45 for example).
Out of curiosity, what kernel are you using?
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Thanks for your reply but i have already tried this.
It also does not explain why it is fine charging from mains but not USB.
Notice that. Not sure whether its a bug. When it finishes charging, the sgs operate naturally and doesn't preserve the battery like it use to in the previous fw. So it drops immediately as the phone is disconnected. If the screen is left on during charging, it is a problem...
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Anything ever come out of this? I'm using Serendipity VII for Cappy based of jvb. I'm seeing this regardless of the type charger I use. Once it hits 100%, the battery continues to show 100% until I remove the charger. Then it shows what I assume is the amount of battery left after powering the phone from the point it reached a full charge to the present. If I remove it immediately after full charge is reached, it reflects that. If I leave it on the charger for hours, it immediately drops reflecting the time spent since full charge.
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I have a problem someone might be able to shed some light on.
I am on call so i need to leave my phone on over night, i plug it in as i go to bed so over noight it charges. In the morning it is at 100% until i unplug it, it will go down to 78 - 85% of battery
Does anyone know why this happens??????
Thanks.
Did you calibrate your battery after flashing Criskelo's ROM? Also, the phone stops charging after it reaches 100%, so its if you think that keeping it connected to the charger all night long it will be charging all the time you're wrong. The phone stops charging to prevent the battery from overheating - charging resumes after some time though
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Did you calibrate your battery after flashing Criskelo's ROM? Also, the phone stops charging after it reaches 100%, so its if you think that keeping it connected to the charger all night long it will be charging all the time you're wrong. The phone stops charging to prevent the battery from overheating - charging resumes after some time though
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I have nearest Problem, but how could I Calibrate my battery?
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Did you calibrate your battery after flashing Criskelo's ROM? Also, the phone stops charging after it reaches 100%, so its if you think that keeping it connected to the charger all night long it will be charging all the time you're wrong. The phone stops charging to prevent the battery from overheating - charging resumes after some time though
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I believe I did a battery Calibration, I used "Battery Calibration" to do this but this might not be the best thing to do a CAL.
I leave it plugged in cos i'm asleep when it gets to 100% otherwise i would unplug it, when i here it get to 100% i unplug it cos i only lose about 2% battery over night.
It should at least hold the charge at around 99 -98%.
I think Battery Calibration does the job - or you can go in recovery and wipe the battery stats there. Anyway next time that happens you should go to Settings>applications>battery use and you should check which of the processes is draining your battery the most
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I think Battery Calibration does the job - or you can go in recovery and wipe the battery stats there. Anyway next time that happens you should go to Settings>applications>battery use and you should check which of the processes is draining your battery the most
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Nothing is draining the battery, I just want to know why after being on the charger "reading 100%" battery it drops to approx 78% after i unplug the Charger.
Even if i have everything turned on and running it should stay at 97% or above once i unplug the charger.
LOL that's just the battery acting if you don't have anything draining it. Also, just for information - you apparently haven't had everything turned on and running on the phone - I can tell you that the charger is not fast enough and cannot counter the entire drain of the battery, so you end up losing battery even though you're charging the phone and the worse part is that soon the battery overheats and stops charging. LOL
For crying out loud, use your brains and do a search for battery problems, there are so many damn bits of info on battery calibration it's unreal, first rule of forum.. "search before you ask"! Nappy change anyone?!
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For crying out loud, use your brains and do a search for battery problems, there are so many damn bits of info on battery calibration it's unreal, first rule of forum.. "search before you ask"! Nappy change anyone?!
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I did a search but found nothing regarding this issue.
Sorry to bring up an old thread, but i have just recently gotten the same problem.
It started after i installed the 2000 Mah samsung battery. I have since calibrated the battery but the problem apperently still persist.
I have several chargers, and i'm beginning to suspect that the one in the bedroom doesn't work properly anymore. I used the charger in the living room to charge to 100% calibrate and it stayed at 100% when unplugged.
Any ideas or suggestions or is it simply still af matter of a bad calibration?
When unplugging, anything in the range of 95% to 100% should be ok.
As for calibrating, i usually drain my whole battery to 0, then recharge to get back 100%
That is exactly what I did as well.
Another way you could fix this is by turning off auto-sync while you charge.
I had this exact problem, but it is caused by your phone completely charging, when it gets to 100% it stops taking battery from the plug, so its using your phones battery. Auto sync is always been used and uses a lot of battery.
Try this and let me know
I just got the OTA update from KitKat to Lollipop (5.0.2) yesterday and I've noticed terrible battery life and very slow charging since then. My phone is always in its charger overnight and when I remove it from the charger in the morning it usually easily lasts until I put it in the charger at night again. During the daytime I do a lot of stuff on it (whatching youtube videos, listen to internet radio, whatsapp, internet browsing, making phonecalls etc).
This morning I removed it from the charger and hardly didn't do anything on it for the first two hours. When I wanted to send a whatsapp, I noticed battery had already fallen to 70% in only 4 hours or so - 4 hours of doing nothing while the phone was in energy savings mode! Half way through the day, with only some whatsapping, battery had fallen to 20%. When I connected it to the charger, it instantly dropped to 8%. After about an hour of charging, it was at 17% and said it would last another 6 hours before the phone would be fully charged. Usually I charge my phone in 1.5 - 2 hours!
When I did the update, I didn't do a factory reset and I would like to only do that as a last resort.
If I look at te battery statistics, I don't see any app using an obscene amount of battery life - the highest being Google Play services with 15%. But what I do notice is that "Cell standby" is responsible for 29% of the battery drainage.
Before I do a factory reset, anyone any tips?
Zippy1970 said:
I just got the OTA update from KitKat to Lollipop (5.0.2) yesterday and I've noticed terrible battery life and very slow charging since then. My phone is always in its charger overnight and when I remove it from the charger in the morning it usually easily lasts until I put it in the charger at night again. During the daytime I do a lot of stuff on it (whatching youtube videos, listen to internet radio, whatsapp, internet browsing, making phonecalls etc).
This morning I removed it from the charger and hardly didn't do anything on it for the first two hours. When I wanted to send a whatsapp, I noticed battery had already fallen to 70% in only 4 hours or so - 4 hours of doing nothing while the phone was in energy savings mode! Half way through the day, with only some whatsapping, battery had fallen to 20%. When I connected it to the charger, it instantly dropped to 8%. After about an hour of charging, it was at 17% and said it would last another 6 hours before the phone would be fully charged. Usually I charge my phone in 1.5 - 2 hours!
When I did the update, I didn't do a factory reset and I would like to only do that as a last resort.
If I look at te battery statistics, I don't see any app using an obscene amount of battery life - the highest being Google Play services with 15%. But what I do notice is that "Cell standby" is responsible for 29% of the battery drainage.
Before I do a factory reset, anyone any tips?
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This is directly from HTC tech support. To recalibrate battery and HTC charger when battery rapidly or erratically discharges, this procedure clears all battery stats, coordinates and normalizes charging.
Turn off Fast Boot in settings. Power off phone.
Plug phone into HTC wall charger and charge for two minutes or more
While charging, hold down volume up+volume down+power button and continue holding
Phone will turn on and off repeatedly every 15 seconds or so while continuing to hold all three buttons
Keep this going for 2 minutes, then release buttons WHEN THE PHONE IS ON
Now, let phone charge fully normally (with phone either on or off--doesn't matter) and battery level reporting, charging and battery life should be normalized.
Do this every month or so to keep power system healthy--even if everything seems fine. Also, don't leave phone on charger overnight for best long term battery life (according to HTC tech support: "The first thing they tell us." This is true even though charging is supposed to turn off when battery is at 100%)
Battery recalibration ... Many techs say it's a placebo. But, I will follow this manual, just in case.
I do confirm, though, that with L 5.0.2 charging takes longer, phone drains faster with the same as before apps and usage, phone is often hot, and I've started to get regular 'can't charge, your phone uses more power than available from charger'.
Re phone uses more power than available, it happens with all three original HTC chargers I have, so I have to use the charger from an Asus tablet (1.5A output).
I haven't done the recalibration thing but I did some measurements and I now know why it's charging so slowly, just not what is causing it. The phone isn't switching to high charging mode and keeps charging at around 400mA. This means that when using the phone, it's draining faster than it can charge. I also think it's not switching to standby mode causing the high drain. Often the phone gets hot when it's in my pocket (when it is supposed to be in standby mode) meaning something is still draining the battery fast.
I will do the calibration thing and see if that helps.
I just did the reset thing (holding power + vol up + vol down) for two minutes. It's now charging but I can see it's still not charging in high mode. It's still charging at only 400mA.
Edit: Phone says it wil take 10 hours to charge (it's at 30% now).
Annoying, I know, but I'd factory reset the phone just to make sure the update has 'taken' correctly
Zippy1970 said:
... The phone isn't switching to high charging mode and keeps charging at around 400mA. ...
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Sounds logical. How did you find it out? Instrumental, or through a phone menu?
I have checked Setings/Power. Mine says Charging on AC, which supposedly means high charging mode.
PS. Again, whatever it might mean, when I get a 'phone uses more power than..' error, I connect the phone to a 1.5A charger (compared to original HTC 1.0A) and it solves the problem. I'm not happy with this solution, though.
zeemenshater said:
Sounds logical. How did you find it out? Instrumental, or through a phone menu?
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There are a few ways I can measure this. I have a "Charger Doctor", one of those inline USB voltage/current meters and I have an "Energy Meter" which measures wattage going out of a 110/220V socket. Both confirm each others measurements. The Charger Doctor says my phone is being charged at 5.1V at 0.4A, and the energy meter says the charger consumes about 2.5W which is about right (the charger looses some energy through heat and the Charger Doctor consumes a bit of energy as well).
But...
To be sure, I tested a few different (but identical) chargers and changing the charger made no difference. But - and here comes the strange part - I tested about 20 different USB cables and with only two my phone charged at 1.0A (which I assume is the M7's max charging current). With all the others it charged with 0.3A-0.5A. Only with those two cables it charges in high charging mode. So apparently something changed in the charger detection. Before the update I was able to charge the phone in high charging mode with other cables as well.
Also, it seems like it's now discharging not as fast as before, but I will be sure tomorrow after it has fully charged and after I've used it all day.
Edit: Yep, charging is at it's normal speed now. It's at 60% and the phone says it will be 1 hour and 1 minute until it's fully charged.
Edit2: Of the two cables it charges at 1.0A with, one is the original charger cable that came with the HTC, and the other is a cable that came with a Duracell Power Bank.
Well, after the three finger calibration, charging seems faster, and I think battery holds longer (or maybe I want to think it does, because still not sure).
One additional observation is in about 20% cases my phone is stuck during boot until I connect or disconnect the charger for a second. By connecting or disconnecting the charger, something triggers the power state and the phone boots normally.
So yes, you may be right about new power management in Android 5.
(I'm now on IC7.0.0 + ElementalX 20.0, HTC M7 Int'l))
Well, even though charging times seem normal now, it is slightly erratic. I can see the percentage making jumps up and sometimes down while charging.
Also, battery life still is very poor. Battery now lasts until halfway through the day while before it would easily last all day...
Is there a way to revert to KitKat? Other than a lot of annoyances I haven't noticed a single advantage using Lollipop.
Seanie280672 said:
This is directly from HTC tech support. To recalibrate battery and HTC charger when battery rapidly or erratically discharges, this procedure clears all battery stats, coordinates and normalizes charging.
Turn off Fast Boot in settings. Power off phone.
Plug phone into HTC wall charger and charge for two minutes or more
While charging, hold down volume up+volume down+power button and continue holding
Phone will turn on and off repeatedly every 15 seconds or so while continuing to hold all three buttons
Keep this going for 2 minutes, then release buttons WHEN THE PHONE IS ON
Now, let phone charge fully normally (with phone either on or off--doesn't matter) and battery level reporting, charging and battery life should be normalized.
Do this every month or so to keep power system healthy--even if everything seems fine. Also, don't leave phone on charger overnight for best long term battery life (according to HTC tech support: "The first thing they tell us." This is true even though charging is supposed to turn off when battery is at 100%)
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that wouldn't work for me i don't have fastboot
carinfex said:
that wouldn't work for me i don't have fastboot
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lol :silly: you cant rule out that it wont work just because HTC decided to remove the software switch in the power options in its later updates, do the rest of it and skip that part, I dont have the option for fastboot either anymore.
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lol :silly: you cant rule out that it wont work just because HTC decided to remove the software switch in the power options in its later updates, do the rest of it and skip that part, I dont have the option for fastboot either anymore.[/QUOTE
i have done everything i can i even have a battery saver but soon as i put wifi on it just drains so fast maybe a new battery will help as this phone is like 2nd hand so maybe battery dying
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Factory reset
I had terrible battery problems after T-Mobile upgraded my HTC One (M7) to Lollipop. The phone was constantly awake and churning with the GPS probing for a signal every few seconds. I'd lose 50% of my battery in a couple of hours. I went through the battery recalibration suggested by HTC support, but it didn't work well. Finally I did the factory reset. It worked perfectly! Now my battery life is better than ever and the phone will go well over 24 hours on a single charge with normal usage. Recovering from the factory reset was easier than I anticipated. Google Play Store remembered and reloaded all my apps automatically. The only headache was having to log in to everything again. Well worth the effort.
I did a factory reset as well and it looks like it has improved battery life. I'm still on my first day after the reset so I won't be able to really tell after I've used it for a couple of days. But like I said, the hard reset seems to have made a difference.
It has been 15 hours now since I unplugged the phone from the charger and it still has 43% left. But I just noticed a few minutes ago that two energy settings were set different than before the hard reset. Screen brightness was set to auto (when before I had set it to it's first dim setting), and data connection was set to switch off after a long period of inactivity. (while before it was set to always on). I've changed those settings and see if that makes a (big) difference.
Zippy1970 said:
I did a factory reset as well and it looks like it has improved battery life. I'm still on my first day after the reset so I won't be able to really tell after I've used it for a couple of days. But like I said, the hard reset seems to have made a difference.
It has been 15 hours now since I unplugged the phone from the charger and it still has 43% left. But I just noticed a few minutes ago that two energy settings were set different than before the hard reset. Screen brightness was set to auto (when before I had set it to it's first dim setting), and data connection was set to switch off after a long period of inactivity. (while before it was set to always on). I've changed those settings and see if that makes a (big) difference.[/QUOT
leave your wifi on for about a hour then tell me if any different
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carinfex said:
leave your wifi on for about a hour then tell me if any different
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I have Wifi always on.
Tested it for another day and battery life has definitely improved quite a bit but it's still nowhere near what it used to be with KitKat.
Zippy1970 said:
I have Wifi always on.
Tested it for another day and battery life has definitely improved quite a bit but it's still nowhere near what it used to be with KitKat.
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when i woke up this morning my m7 was 100% it's now 11;10 and it,s now 70%
I'm getting exactly the same problem.
HTC support said they never heard about such a problem and their conclusion is to send the phone to be repaired
I don't know how to rollback to previous version and it doesn't looks like to be a new fixed version on the way.
Or at list I haven't heard about it.
I also noticed it doesn't make much of a difference if I turn on energy savings mode.
With KitKat, my phone would easily last the whole day without energy savings mode. Now with lollipop I have to hook it up to a charger in the evening - even with energy savings mode enabled.
The thing that sucks the most is that my phone drains in alarming rate when playing a game, or listening to online radio or watching youtube videos. 30 minutes and battery drops from 100% to 50%. And the phone gets really, really hot. Before lollipop, it would drain perhaps from 100% to 85% and the phone would not heat up at all.
There are so many annoying bugs/features with lollipop, I'm considering an iPhone for the very first time ever as my next phone. Mind you, I've never been a fan of Apple stuff. But Android is just getting ridiculously bloated and simply doesn't work very well anymore. It looks like every update makes my phone less usable. And I hate the fact Google thinks it's perfectly fine to disable/remove stuff that people have come to depend on. Like my notes (amongst man other things). Google in all its wisdom has removed the Notes app making all my notes inaccessible. The only way to get my notes back is to install some third party app from the Play Store and have it transfer my notes to the cloud. First of all, I don't want a third party app handling my notes. And I most certainly don't want my notes stored in the cloud. I travel quite a bit and I don't have internet access everywhere I go, making my notes inaccessible again.
I charged my battery. Took it off the charger and turned off the screen. When I woke up the phone was off and I dead. I am on cm12.1 fairly recent update. I updated a couple days ago. I just want to know if anyone else had this issue?
Only time thats ever happened to me is when I was camping in the woods. Like it was searching for a signal all night and killed the battery.
I had something similar happen to me over the weekend. I mostly use a Choetech Qi charger, and pulled it off the charger Saturday morning before heading out for a day of motorcycle riding. After the ride...~6hrs later my phone still showed 100% battery. As I was catching up on emails etc..the phone just shut itself down. I rebooted...then it shut down again within 30 secs of use.
While it was still off, a quick press on the power button popped up a battery image showing 0% battery. Within 2 seconds of plugging in a charger...it jumped to 100% again. But the phone would not stay on, unplugged at all. I tried wiping the cache hoping that would clear out the battery monitor, but not luck there. The only that worked was turning the phone off, plugging in the OEM Turbo Charger, and letting it charge over night.
Do you have any app monitoring battery usage like betterbatterystats or gsm battery monitor?
sometime obviously kept your usage on while you slept. not normal. either searching for a signal all night, or a misbehaving app, etc. y
I do not have currently have any 3rd party monitoring app. But it's probably not a bad idea. I just think that something with the wireless charging eventually whacks out the battery calibration. As long as I can "reset" everything with a night on the Turbo charger, I can deal.
radon222 said:
I had something similar happen to me over the weekend. I mostly use a Choetech Qi charger, and pulled it off the charger Saturday morning before heading out for a day of motorcycle riding. After the ride...~6hrs later my phone still showed 100% battery. As I was catching up on emails etc..the phone just shut itself down. I rebooted...then it shut down again within 30 secs of use.
While it was still off, a quick press on the power button popped up a battery image showing 0% battery. Within 2 seconds of plugging in a charger...it jumped to 100% again. But the phone would not stay on, unplugged at all. I tried wiping the cache hoping that would clear out the battery monitor, but not luck there. The only that worked was turning the phone off, plugging in the OEM Turbo Charger, and letting it charge over night.
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Radon,
I'm seeing nearly the same problem, but mine is at 80% not 100%. I tried doing a full charge on a standard (non-Turbo) charger overnight, and it changed things, but still not in an acceptable state. Did you try using a standard charger? Or did you only try the Turbo charger?
Verizon and Motorola are telling me I need to do a factory reset and/or get a new phone, but I'm trying to do my research first.
Clear the app cache (Go to Settings->Storage then click on Cached data and hit OK). Then reboot into recovery to wipe the cache there (note it'll take upwards to half and hour so don't freak out if it looks frozen). Then turn the phone off and leave it on the factory charger overnight (or for a while after it reads 100%) with the phone still off. This clears the cruft to fix misbehaving apps, then calibrates the phones understanding of what a full charge is. You also might want to delete any apps you no longer use, especially ad-ridden games, system hook apps like keyboards, and things that track location or status which might keep the phone awake.
After I shattered my screen on my last turbo and got a replacement I've been having issues with my battery. It would randomly die and wouldn't respond or let me turn it on without connecting to a charging cable. Sometimes it goes from a good charge to 39% and turns itself off but often, like I observed today, when I looked at my battery trend it actually went from 75% to 8% in an instant. Not sure what the cause is. Could the battery be discharging somehow??