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Please Help me to downgrade to WM2003

Hi, I have HTC Blue Angel running WM6.5 and find that it struggles to run at this level, i am looking to downgrade to the original wm2003 that it came with, I am on Orange UK
Current Seetings :-
Rom Version : 6.5.23004EN
Rom Date : 06/12/09
Radio Version : 1.15.00
Protocol Version : 1337.45
Extrom version : 23004-xplode
could anyone help and tell me excactly what files i need to download to restore to original shipped state and exactly how to carry out the downgrade.
Regards,
John.

welcome to the forum!
ok, what you need is:
- a pc, preferably with windows xp
- a wm2003 rom in your preferred language, e.g. from -=xplode's shipped rom archive=-
-a RUU (Rom upgrade utility), you can try mine there (attached)
and then you go to the -=wiki wizard for downgrading=- and follow the instructions there or follow these shortened instructions:
1. hard reset your device: power+reset, then camera and record, change the values in the menu from No, No, Yes to YES, YES, NO using the camera and record buttons, confirm with the mail button.
2. put your device in bootloader mode
3. connect it to the pc using the cradle or a usb cable
4. extract the shipped rom in any folder
5. put the maupgradeut_noid in there and start it
6. have a look, whether the 2nd page shows device and rom information, if not, exit, start task manager and kill activesync (wcesmgr and wcescomm) and go back to step 2
7. start the "upgrade"
8. when it's done, perform a wm2003 hard reset by pressing power+reset, and wait for the versions to show up in the bottom right corner, if all the values changed from your previous wm6.5 versions, you're probably fine and done by now.
in very rare cases, something goes wrong, some combinations of pcs and devices wouldn't work with my ruu, but you would realise that at step6 or 7, try and download another ruu then and try again, i think there also is one linked in the wiki.
at the end, your device should read something like:
R:1.12.00
G:1337.42
D:1.06.02
with best regards
Chef_Tony

Decided to go for windows pocket 2005
Thanks Chef_Tony im afraid im running vista and have tried using mtty but with no success, I have now decided to downgrade to pocket 2005, is this possible and how would i do it with windows vista as i am unable to downgrade to XP. Please help if possible.
Thanks John

Bootloader
Hi i dont know if this makes any difference my Bootloader is showing Version 2.05 Reagrds.

no, it does not make any difference, since the bootloader's version is not the problem. before you go on doing anything, you should have a good look at this site:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade4_Vista_Pic
and unless you are sure, the installation of the driver was successful, you should not attempt to flash the device, because then you will end up with a half-flashed device, that cannot be switched on and maybe also not flashed anymore.

http://firmware.atspace.com/ can't be accessed. is there any other site for wm2003se rom ?

I have the same problem, as i m downgrading to WM 2003, i followed all the instructions as u mentioned here, but when i run "maupgradeut_noid" it always said that this ROM is not for your device, i have Orange SPV M2000 (Blue Angel), please help i cant able to downgrade to WM 2003.
One more thing is there any way to Merge ExtROM with Storage in Windows MObile 6.5?

byudi23 said:
http://firmware.atspace.com/ can't be accessed. is there any other site for wm2003se rom ?
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http://firmware.atspace.com/Blueangel.html
working flawlessly for me. check now

subratamm said:
http://firmware.atspace.com/Blueangel.html
working flawlessly for me. check now
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still can't open http://firmware.atspace.com/Blueangel.html too

ok, we are dealing with several different things here:
1. the storage resize:
no, it can only be done in wm2003, no way to do it in wm5 or above, you have to downgrade
2. while attempting to downgrade, don't forget to put your device into bootloader mode, before connecting and starting maupgrade, then there will be no device error anymore.
3. of course for downgrading you need the original rom, at best from xplode's shipped rom archive, if you can't access it, just tell me your favoured language and country, and i will look it up and send you the direct download link. btw. xplode's site works fine!

favoured languange : English
Country : Indonesia
please send me the direct link. thx a lot. chef_tony

since he doesn't have indonesian roms and you are fine with english, here are the links of 2 different UK roms, you should be fine with.
T-Mobile UK WWE 1.42.00 1.42.112 1.13.00 Download (Ziddu) / Mirror 1 (Rapidshare) / Mirror 2 (Megaupload)
O2 UK WWE 1.40.00 1.40.242 1.12.00 Download (Ziddu) / Mirror 1 (Rapidshare) / Mirror 2 (Megaupload).
i hope these links work for you.

thx a lot chef_tony. I almost forgot. I want to ask whether the different rom can drain the battery fastly ? because my battery drain faster using WM6.5.

the power consumption of the device mainly consists of 2 things:
- wireless communications (gsm, gprs, bluetooth, irda, wi-fi)
- hardware usage (cpu & ram)
the wireless does not really vary from rom to rom but much like on the pc, graphically more intense applications use more power and since wm6.5 has a much nicer shell, it uses more ram and cpu to run. that uses more power.
if you want to save battery, reduce the backlight intensity, let the device switch off faster and end all applications that you don't need and de-activate wireless communications that you don't use. still then the battery life is limited but that is something you will have to learn to put up with.

thx chef_tony. I want to ask about the memory used ? is it better with storage 42mb and program 90 mb or repart it into default which is storage 60mb and program 60 mb ? is this RAM configuration also affect the battery consumption ?

no, that has nothing to do with that, because you don't resize the ram, you resize the extrom and the storage. that doesn't have any influence, kind of like the size of the sd card does not have influence.

Chef_Tony said:
welcome to the forum!
ok, what you need is:
- a pc, preferably with windows xp
- a wm2003 rom in your preferred language, e.g. from -=xplode's shipped rom archive=-
-a RUU (Rom upgrade utility), you can try mine there (attached)
and then you go to the -=wiki wizard for downgrading=- and follow the instructions there or follow these shortened instructions:
1. hard reset your device: power+reset, then camera and record, change the values in the menu from No, No, Yes to YES, YES, NO using the camera and record buttons, confirm with the mail button.
2. put your device in bootloader mode
3. connect it to the pc using the cradle or a usb cable
4. extract the shipped rom in any folder
5. put the maupgradeut_noid in there and start it
6. have a look, whether the 2nd page shows device and rom information, if not, exit, start task manager and kill activesync (wcesmgr and wcescomm) and go back to step 2
7. start the "upgrade"
8. when it's done, perform a wm2003 hard reset by pressing power+reset, and wait for the versions to show up in the bottom right corner, if all the values changed from your previous wm6.5 versions, you're probably fine and done by now.
in very rare cases, something goes wrong, some combinations of pcs and devices wouldn't work with my ruu, but you would realise that at step6 or 7, try and download another ruu then and try again, i think there also is one linked in the wiki.
at the end, your device should read something like:
R:1.12.00
G:1337.42
D:1.06.02
with best regards
Chef_Tony
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH! It was very helpfull!

Showing white screen after hard reset
Dear Tony,
Since I wanted to get more space for my Xda iis tonight, so I install a unlock softwares to unlock the Extrom according to some indication on web, also I format it after scusseful to get a extrom, but I got a freezable white screen after using hard reset, the programe showing rom upgard scussefully but it cannot get into window: Could you teach me how to fix this problem? Can I save my xda IIS?
Thank you so much for your help.
Simon

please do not double post! i answered this exact question in the thread you opened for that.

thanks chef tony!

Flashing to new rom

I'm sorry for this post, because the answer is probelly somewhere on this forum. But I can't find it.
I have my diamond for about a year now and I like to install a custom rom with windows mobile 6.5. But I can't seem to figure out what I need for this.
I already chosen a rom, but I have no idea if it is any good, because there are so many roms out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=563245
So my first question, is this rom any good?
Second question, what type of hard SPL do I need, Do I need the normal one that requires roms to be signed or do I need the developers edition?
Third question. Do I need MTTY for this or can I first try it without MTTY?
And the last question, if I don´t like the rom is it easy to install the original rom again or do I need to do something special for that.
I hope you guys can answer my questions so I can start flashing my rom.
Grtz, Eric
EDIT: I tried installing hard-SPL unsigned, but get an error that it can't connected to my phone. But it is connected using windows mobile device center

why do you want to flash a new rom?

ive recenetly done the same, i wanted to flash my rom as the original was tied to vodafone and some of the features like youtube, facebook, and opera wouldnt work as they wanted vodafone connection ( im on virgin mobile).
anyway after much trial and error i in the end found it versy easy.
3 simple steps. first flash your bootloader
i found the best and easiest one was spl olinex version 4.0
u need to softboot to do this ( hold the down volume and switch on phone, have usb cable connected then use the flash util provided with the above.
once thats done you need to flash rom the radio
again the one out there that seems the best to use is version 1.00.25.05 diamondruu radio
again soft reset so you get the try colour screen and run the flash rom update ( takes about 2 mins at most)
finally choose your version of win mobile 6.5 ( i got windows revoluton 7.1 ultra clean edition)
do soft reset again, then run the flash update and again this takes about 5-10 mins for this)
all worked perfectly for me and it was my first try.
though i will be changing it as the revolution is missing some vital aspects i like.
i know its basic but hopeully you can see its not the daunting prospect some people make out though any rom upgrade carries a minot risk i found this to be as easy as 1,2,3
good luck

cloudedhopes said:
why do you want to flash a new rom?
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Because I would like some new features on my phone. Like wm 6.5 or a new version of manilla. It's getting a little boring having the same phone for over a year.
@miramele, thanks for your response. I'll give it a try tomorrow and hope I won't brick my phone.

let us know how you get on, it took me several attempts as each time i was trying while within the phone itself, if you hold the down volume key and power on the phone you get the tri colour screen, in this mode i had 100% success each time.
doing it within the OS with phone on it just stuck at 0%.
And since then i have re flashed it with a diff version of wm 6.5 that i prefer and all is good.
the version i flashed to is the manila 2.1 with the latest touchFLO 3d so ive not even bothered with Spb mobile shell though may add this later.

miramele said:
let us know how you get on, it took me several attempts as each time i was trying while within the phone itself, if you hold the down volume key and power on the phone you get the tri colour screen, in this mode i had 100% success each time.
doing it within the OS with phone on it just stuck at 0%.
And since then i have re flashed it with a diff version of wm 6.5 that i prefer and all is good.
the version i flashed to is the manila 2.1 with the latest touchFLO 3d so ive not even bothered with Spb mobile shell though may add this later.
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Thanks for the advice, if I understand correctly I have to get to the tri-color screen and then install hard-spl? But can I connect to my laptop while in this mode?
I'm gone try it tomorrow because I didn't have any time today.

Thanks for all the help, especially miramele.
I made the step and am now running a custom rom without any issues. Many thanks for the help and for pulling me over the line.

Help: can I get instructions to get WM side (Snapvue) working again

After flashing radio 1.27 I can't get Snapvue working again.
Reinstalling Vista didn't help. Even the sound doesn't work in Vista.
Ecshift and mmty don't help to reset the system.
Can't get SoftSPL installed.
somebody any idea?

Did you HardSPL before you flashed the radio?
Re-installing Vista wont help with the WinMo side.

what threads did you read ? What exactly did you try
Before people are going to put in the effort, please help us help you..
Which threads on this forum have you read about this problem ?
And what actions (eg command sequences) did you try to get
your shift working again?
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My best bet is that you should use ECshift.exe /bl to get to the bootloader,
then flash ThaiHugo's radio and then his ROM. Should work.
P.S. forget Vista on your Shift, really if you can afford it, use Windows 7 ultimate and use SD card for "readyboost"

lucid said:
Before people are going to put in the effort, please help us help you..
Which threads on this forum have you read about this problem ?
And what actions (eg command sequences) did you try to get
your shift working again?
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My best bet is that you should use ECshift.exe /bl to get to the bootloader,
then flash ThaiHugo's radio and then his ROM. Should work.
P.S. forget Vista on your Shift, really if you can afford it, use Windows 7 ultimate and use SD card for "readyboost"
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Thx for helping me with this item.
I had a good working gullum rom with wm 6.5
then the phoneconnection couldn't anylonger be established.
so I flashed radio 1.27
since then I have a black screen..
I went to all the proposals given in the threads about black screen in snapvue.
Didn't first knew that installing Vista aknew didn't help me on the WM side.
Know it by now, since a few weeks ago.
Have installed both Vista and Windows 7
Both do have soundproblems.
Flashed after your proposal yesterday
- ShifthardSPLfinal
- radio 1.27 rad
- the light rom
No working screen.
Should I still try another radio?
Which one? Could you give me a linl?

HardSPLed again.
had a look with mtty info 2
It was!
Flashed radio.
Then thaihugo's ROM Full.
Black!
Is there another way to reset SNAPVUE? Or have a look inside to "see what is wrong"?

Need your HELP??!! REVERT WM 6.5 back to original WM6...

My TYTN 2 (KAISER) came with the original WM6...But I upgraded/flashed it to WM 6.5 and that kinda sucks for me...
How can I revert it back to WM 6????
HELP.
Should I Hard reset it( by pressing several keys+stylus)??
Or should I hardSPL it again and flashing the WM6 Rom back??

rglive2008 said:
My TYTN 2 (KAISER) came with the original WM6...But I upgraded/flashed it to WM 6.5 and that kinda sucks for me...
How can I revert it back to WM 6????
HELP.
Should I Hard reset it( by pressing several keys+stylus)??
Or should I hardSPL it again and flashing the WM6 Rom back??
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First of all this is Android development so this is very offtopic. Second you hopefully can find and download the correct WM version from HTC by entering your S/N. Then I think all you need to do is to hold camera button + reset the device to enter SPL, connect to computer with USB cable and then run the installation (that you downloaded from HTC).

Hi Kalit_Kaffe, Thnx for the Help. Was helpless...thts Y had to post it here.
Anyways...is the hard reset(holding camera button...the soft buttons and stylus) the same as Factory restore??...then i wouldnt be needing the file that you mentioned for download??
Am i right?

Reset to factory defaults will not replace the 6.5 rom you have installed, you don't need to HardSPL again, that only needs to be done once.
Your best option would be to get a stock rom from the XDA Wiki pages, My advice would be either get a shipped rom that matches your carrier, or the latest generic HTC shipped rom, both can be found here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
Note that once you flash a rom a Hard reset does not remove it, only flashing another rom will do that. Also flashing a stock rom is actually one of the best ways of clearing out previous flashes.

hi
Hey man thnx a lot! really helps!

HELP!!!!!!!!!
How do I install the USB driver for HTC TyTN II, to whom I am the Android 1.5. Before that I was a Windows Mobile 6.5 and am using Microsoft ActiveSync. I would like again to get back to WM 6.5, but can not seem to connect mobile phone and computer.

You can't flash back to Windows Mobile through usb while in Android because of the driver issues. You have to either enter bootloader mode and flash, or you have to do it through your storage card. And before you post back asking me how to do that, use the search. There are instructions all over the place.

thank you very much I was able through bootloader mode

does anyone know what is the best WM for HTC taytn 2? I am installing TPC_Kaiser_Titanium_Ultimate_28002, it's not something particularly good

There is no *best* ROM. Please read threads and flash based on your needs. I think it's about time this thread be done for.

rglive2008 said:
My TYTN 2 (KAISER) came with the original WM6...But I upgraded/flashed it to WM 6.5 and that kinda sucks for me...
How can I revert it back to WM 6????
HELP.
Should I Hard reset it( by pressing several keys+stylus)??
Or should I hardSPL it again and flashing the WM6 Rom back??
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Looks like you need to downgrade your Hard SPL for WM6 so that it doesn't pause a lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498320
Also there seems to be a guide for what you want. Sorry I stopped reading through the threads when I saw someone say you don't need to do anything with your hard spl.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568

Help needed reverting back to WM6.1

Hi, if anyone could please help me i would be gratefull, i recently purchased a D2 but its already preloaded with WM6.5 rom version 2.53.405.5 (76952)WWE, But i really wanted WM6.1 as, among other things, i wanted to use the handwriting rec.
does anyone know what stock rom to reload? and where i can get it? sorry to ask such a basic question.
thanks in advance,

http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=2&dl_id=613

thanks for that, however it seems to have just bricked the phone
thanks for that, however it seems to have just bricked the phone
it seemed to work, all the correct messages displayed
but......
now all that happens is it turns on, shows the touch diamond2 screen, then resets
it has the following text in red in the lower left hand corner
r 3 . 43. 25 .19
g 61. 20t. 25. 10U
d 1. 39. 47382
does any one have any ideas?

Try to hard reset.

tried that before i posted
and a soft reset, and another hard reset to be sure,
i searched the forum but couldn't find any reference to that type of error either.
any ideas on how to retrieve it from paperweight mode?

Download stock ROM for your region
Unpack it with WinRar or TotalCMD
Rename RUU_signed.nbh to topaimg.nbh
Copy topaimg.nbh on your SD card
Enter bootloader (hold volume down and turn on phone) and follow instructions
edit:I guess for wm 6.1 you need lower version of SSPL

thanks dude, i used the bootloader to reinstall the latest rom from HTC.
Topaz_S2_HTC_WWE_2.53.405.5_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship
my phone is no longer a brick however i am back to square 1 in that i still have wm6.5, and i want 6.1
ive tried to reflash with the older rom fighter7139 suggested
RUU_Topaz_HTC_WWE_1.39.405.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.20t.25.10_3.43.25.19_Ship
but it gives me the same rebooting error.
any ideas why wont the older rom work on my phone? or if theres an alternative to that rom ?
thanks

I've loaded hardspl 1.83 and extracted the file RUU_signed.nbh and renamed it to topaimg.nbhand,
i moved it to the SD card, reflashed the phone with the 6.1 rom,
but i get the same error.
any idea on what rom i should use to update from?
or what stock spl i'd need to run this rom's version of 6.1 ?

a thought
maybe i don't even need 6.1, all i want to do is to fix two things -
1) make the sms messaging work like on the old htc devices ie diamond or tytn ie not use htc messaging
2) add handwriting recognition
- would also be nice to have the taskmanger icon, the battery icon and the original windows start menu back too, but im not dependent on them....
so i guess any rom would do that allows these functions, any help or info on this would be much appriciated

terminalkhaos said:
1) make the sms messaging work like on the old htc devices ie diamond or tytn ie not use htc messaging
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Try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3771519&postcount=2991
2) add handwriting recognition
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http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=0&dl_id=824

thanks for that, however that was the first thing i tried, i saw the download for the handwriting ap just after i got the phone, not knowing it didnt have it when i swapped from my diamond,
the thing is the update only works on certian AP version control builds -
the message on the site is -
Note: AP version control -> The criterion will pass if the Touch Input for Pocket is equal to Version 2.1 (Build1919.1320), or lower.
mines a higer version, which i assumed originally had to do with it being wm6.5 not 6.1,
- i have tried downloading and installing anyway but it wont load.
does anyone know how to get this update to load, or how to change the AP version control back to a lower version ?????
any help would be much appriciated.

if it matters,
i'm running Duttys HG, and ive flashed to hardspl,
i don't mind flashing back to whatever, i just really need the handwriting app

The handwriting SIP is likey hidden.
There is a reg edit to unhide, just search SIP Reg Edit and you should find it.
If I recall it was under the WM general tweaks.

thanks for that, i got the letter and block rec working, but still not the transcriber the reg key shows it should be showing, but i think the actual file may not be there,

fixed after changing the reg, and downloading the update, you then need this transcriber cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3661845&postcount=47732
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Any luck finding a way to get 6.1 working on this phone? I just bought the Pure from AT&T as a replacement for my LG Incite that had 6.1 on it. So far I can't stand 6.5 at all. My main beef is with IE, I really like the one on my Incite vs. this one. And my other problem is with the start menu, I also prefer the drop-down style in 6.1.
Thanks for any replies or help.

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Any luck finding a way to get 6.1 working on this phone? I just bought the Pure from AT&T as a replacement for my LG Incite that had 6.1 on it. So far I can't stand 6.5 at all. My main beef is with IE, I really like the one on my Incite vs. this one. And my other problem is with the start menu, I also prefer the drop-down style in 6.1.
Thanks for any replies or help.
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Start here.
Once you unlock your phone, you can flash to anything you want.
6.5 is hands down better than 6.1, there are 6.5.219xx builds that have the drop down start menu.

Thanks Bruce!
For some reason I couldn't find a good Pure forum, so that link helps a lot.