Hi!
I've ordered a cappy from ebay, it was listed as bricked with download mode stuck. How can i reflash it if i don't know what rom has been installed on it (froyo or gb)? I don't want to permanently brick it so i ask for your help. I don't have it yet but it's better to know the know hows. Any tips, suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
use Odin 1 Click. It will load the bootloaders for Eclair 2.1. As far as I have read, it won't brick it. Earlier, I installed the one click Cognition Gingerbread, and I was able to go back to stock using One Click Odin.
Whatever you do, don't use the 3-button fix to go back to stock from Gingerbread - it will certainly brick it by mixing bootloaders.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible if it bricks!
Thanks, i will try that.
Beware though that My very first captivate had this problem and it wasn't software issue, I had dropped the phone and afterwards it would only boot into download mode, the only way I could get it to boot the OS was a flash, but the download mode would show back up later on. I had it replaced under warranty, that was 3 cappies ago, should be recieving the third today in the mail
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So i just want to be sure if I was reading the threads right, if we flash to GB we CANT flash back to stock eclair or can we?
rabbivj said:
So i just want to be sure if I was reading the threads right, if we flash to GB we CANT flash back to stock eclair or can we?
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it depends on the build number and history of the phone.
if you have successfully used odin oneclick jf6 or maybe ji6 froyo first try without needing a 3button fix or reflashing because of a soft brick you can use a oneclick odin to flash back to stock
if you needed 3 button fix you will need to use adb or a jig after odin oneclick to get download mode and flash the 3-button fix version.. do this only after using odin one click! 3button fix is only secondary bootloader! a mismatch will beak the phone!
if you have a 1010 build or greater there is a major risk because odin jf6 2.1 oneclick has a history of bricking these phones. some report success, some report that the phone goes into the phone+computer screen but is recoverable with a jig, some report that the phone is hard bricked.
i have a 1007 phone that never needed a 3-button fix. and on this phone i was able to use the gingerbread bootloaders on 2.1 and 2.2 roms without issue. unfortunately this was not the case for another member i talked to over pm who has a 1010 phone. his phone booted but the bootloaders did not give him 3 button capabilities on 2.1 untill after the phone was rooted and he used rom manager to tell the phone to reboot into recovery once. after that the combos worked. this was very odd, im not sure what to make of that, but trying to get the phone recovered ultimately ended in a bricked phone.
if you have a 1010 it might maybe be posible to use ji6 froyo (that old beta we all used for a while) odin oneclick but i am unsure if it flashes both bootloaders. if i get time tomorrow i might flash back to stock then to ji6 just out of curiousity to see if it has boot.bin. there is no way to break down the .exe and check that i know of.
that said icezar is/will be working on an odin package for odin 1.7 to flash a good combo of bootloaders that will give 3 button fix on any captivate.
Dani897 said:
it depends on the build number and history of the phone.
if you have successfully used odin oneclick jf6 or maybe ji6 froyo first try without needing a 3button fix or reflashing because of a soft brick you can use a oneclick odin to flash back to stock
if you needed 3 button fix you will need to use adb or a jig after odin oneclick to get download mode and flash the 3-button fix version.. do this only after using odin one click! 3button fix is only secondary bootloader! a mismatch will beak the phone!
if you have a 1010 build or greater there is a major risk because odin jf6 2.1 oneclick has a history of bricking these phones. some report success, some report that the phone goes into the phone+computer screen but is recoverable with a jig, some report that the phone is hard bricked.
if you have a 1010 it might maybe be posible to use ji6 froyo (that old beta we all used for a while) odin oneclick but i am unsure if it flashes both bootloaders. if i get time tomorrow i might flash back to stock then to ji6 just out of curiousity of if it has boot.bin. there is no way to break down the file and check that i know of.
that said icezar is/will be working on an odin package for odin 1.7 to flash a good combo of bootloaders that will give 3 button fix on any captivate.
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I have build 1006, i got my cappy the day it got released...and i have used odin 1click in the past.
you should be good to go.
How do you know what the build number is?
MaxRabbit said:
How do you know what the build number is?
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Under the battery.
have you ever used odin 1 click before? If so and didn't have a problem, no matter what build number, you won't all of a sudden have one with it.
I have 3 1010+ cappys and I'm lucky enough that ALL of them work fine with 1 click...
How much different is odin 1 click compared to odin3?
The only Odin I have ever used is the one that can be downloaded from the official serendipity page.
I've used many 2.2 roms and successfully flashed back to stock, will going to 2.3 be and back be that much different for me?
That is the only thing I'm skeptical about.
Odin 1 click contains both bootloaders and stock eclair rom/kernel/modem. It has a start button, and a master clear button and that's it.
That will replace the gingerbread bootloaders
it can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Odin 3 has more options and can be used to flash all kinds of stuff. Idk what firmware package you are using with odin 3 but if the .tar contains BOTH boot.bin AND sbl.bin it will flash both bootloaders as well and your good to go, if it doesn't have EITHER, then the gb bootloaders you are on are backward compatible and your good to go.
If it only contains ONE of the 2 it will brick your phone. No question about it.
here is a package for odin 3 that contains NO bootloaders http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
my fone has 1010 under the battery, ive used odin one click several times never had a problem with it. but i really want to try gingerbread. now im not sure if it will brick or not. can someone explain what is the 3 button combo, my fone has always had it. did some fones not have the ability to go into recovery or download mode?
I said already, if you have used one click before your fine, you would know the first time if there was a problem with the build number and one click. I've been to gb back to eclair just to test. All 3 1010+ phones are good.
ok thx studacris, just want to be as sure as possible before i give it a try, cant afford to replace fone if i jack it all up. but, i am pretty sure i can handle this with all the flashing and reflashing and stock and cwm and back that ive done on this and an old xperia x10. however have only used oneclick and not odin 1.7 so this will be a leaning experience for me. will post my results later thx.
so I was trying to flash the new miui 1.7.8 on my captivate and one of the step is to flash back to orig.
using odin 1.7 when I flash the phone its gone.
1- No power
2- PC doesnt recog the phone at all
3- charger not charging
so basically the phone wont come or wont charge.
tried one button to boot up in recovery but no luck...any idea?
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so I was trying to flash the new miui 1.7.8 on my captivate and one of the step is to flash back to orig.
using odin 1.7 when I flash the phone its gone.
1- No power
2- PC doesnt recog the phone at all
3- charger not charging
so basically the phone wont come or wont charge.
tried one button to boot up in recovery but no luck...any idea?
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What were you on before trying to flash? The newest Miui rom does not state nor is it required to flash back to stock using ODIN. What happened with ODIN when going back to stock? Did you not try using ODIN 1 click? Please give much clearer detail on your process if we want/try to help you.
i was on apex 8.x and thinking to go back to miui again. it said if you are on cm7 or miui then dont need to flash back to orig.
and since i was not, i use odin 1.7 and use cm7 initial kernel to flash my captivate. it flash successfully and when i tried to reboot phone there were no pwer and no charging.
thankx
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i was on apex 8.x and thinking to go back to miui again. it said if you are on cm7 or miui then dont need to flash back to orig.
and since i was not, i use odin 1.7 and use cm7 initial kernel to flash my captivate. it flash successfully and when i tried to reboot phone there were no pwer and no charging.
thankx
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Is apex 8 on 2.3 bootloaders? If so that could have been part of the issue. Miui runs 2.2 boatloaders so if you didn't flash to 2.1 or 2.2 before going back it's possibly why your phone is currently dead. Doesn't mean it's bricked. Search in the general forum for adamoutletter or someone close to that for a thread on recovering from hard bricks.
Glitch kernel let me OC to 1.4!
What .tar did you use with odin to flash back to stock? (don't say the one with the 3 button fix)
if it's a Hard brick, only option is jtag. Mobiletechvideos.com offers that service for $50 u.s. His username on here is connexion2005.
Sounds like Stud hit the nail on the head. You're not screwed, just not a happy person.
"Is apex 8 on 2.3 bootloaders? If so that could have been part of the issue. Miui runs 2.2 boatloaders so if you didn't flash to 2.1 or 2.2 before going back it's possibly why your phone is currently dead. Doesn't mean it's bricked. Search in the general forum for adamoutletter or someone close to that for a thread on recovering from hard bricks.
Glitch kernel let me OC to 1.4!"
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tried but have no idea how to use usb or other way of jig....sorry not that technical
my phone is under warranty as of purchase date, what if i send to samsung will they know?
maxximboy1 said:
"Is apex 8 on 2.3 bootloaders? If so that could have been part of the issue. Miui runs 2.2 boatloaders so if you didn't flash to 2.1 or 2.2 before going back it's possibly why your phone is currently dead. Doesn't mean it's bricked. Search in the general forum for adamoutletter or someone close to that for a thread on recovering from hard bricks.
Glitch kernel let me OC to 1.4!"
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tried but have no idea how to use usb or other way of jig....sorry not that technical
my phone is under warranty as of purchase date, what if i send to samsung will they know?
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I'm not sure if Sammy'll know or not. Others maybe be able to lend you some advice as far as that goes. In all honesty, I'd avoid troubles and shoot connexion2005 a PM. I'm pretty sure he'll be able to fix it regardless of what's wrong with it. If it indeed is that you flashed over 2.3 BL, I'd say it's your best bet.
I mean Samsung might warranty, but I'm not sure, so I'm not going to say that they will or won't.
thax sending him msg
I have a Captivate build # 1008 and am sending it in for Warranty exchange, it was on Cognition 4.5 and I did Odin 1-click to stock then Kies for official 2.2, my 3 button combo does not work, so for At&t Warranty exchange do i need to get the 3 button working and is there anything else I need to do?
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I have a Captivate build # 1008 and am sending it in for Warranty exchange, it was on Cognition 4.5 and I did Odin 1-click to stock then Kies for official 2.2, my 3 button combo does not work, so for At&t Warranty exchange do i need to get the 3 button working and is there anything else I need to do?
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As long as you are on a stock AT&T Rom (which it sounds like you are), you're fine. The 3-button issue was something that happened with a certain amount of stock phones, so AT&T shouldn't give you any trouble with that. Just make sure your phone is not in a rooted state, and is as much of a stock state as you can get it.
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As long as you are on a stock AT&T Rom (which it sounds like you are), you're fine. The 3-button issue was something that happened with a certain amount of stock phones, so AT&T shouldn't give you any trouble with that. Just make sure your phone is not in a rooted state, and is as much of a stock state as you can get it.
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Completely Agree. Use Oden. Go Fully back to stock and Masterclear, and you should be good to go.
I was just wondering I just recently bricked my last Captivate luckily At&t replaced it for free but im not sure how many more times thats going to work. My idea was that the brick occured from a suspicious looking 2.3 odin file but im not sure if that bricked it. Should I try flashing with the same computer but with a diferent 2.3 odin? I got a new one heres the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821
Edit: forgot original package that bricked my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232703
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I was just wondering I just recently bricked my last Captivate luckily At&t replaced it for free but im not sure how many more times thats going to work. My idea was that the brick occured from a suspicious looking 2.3 odin file but im not sure if that bricked it. Should I try flashing with the same computer but with a diferent 2.3 odin? I got a new one heres the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821
Edit: forgot original package that bricked my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232703
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A hard brick occurs when you flash incompatible bootloaders. Make sure you flash the gingerbread bootloaders first (either the i9000 bootloaders or 2.3 captivate bootloaders) with odin then flash your gingerbread rom. There are odin packages that include just the bootloaders. Hope that helps.
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Yeah it kinda helps im gonna wait though and buy a usb jig just so im ready if anything does manage to go wrong. Thanks though i didnt know that.
See with the package i used that bricked my phone it got stuck in a certain stage and wouldnt go anywhere so i tryed unpluging it and try to go back to 2.1 but after that attempted 2.3 flash it wouldnt accept any odins.
A hard brick not only happens with incompatible bootloaders, but with an incomplete bootloader flash, which is what happened, you say it stopped at a certain point, that is more than likely where it bricked. That package isn't "suspicious", if it were there would be a lot of reports about it.
The first link you posted is bootloaders only. It will not flash 2.3 firmware at all. Just the boots.
To make sure odin doesn't stall out, use a port on the back of the pc, right click odin and run as admin.
What studacris said. Keep in mind there is always a small risk on flashing that Odin fails. So once you flash Gingerbread bootloaders just don't flash any bootloaders again unless you really need to. OR Look in to the Unbrickable mod if you want that.
Just askin how long would ikt take to flash just the gb bootloaders?
Less than a second. Its a very small risk to begging with BUT a risk none the less.
ANother question is there any danger in downgrading bootloaders?
Same as upgrading. No reason to Downgrade except maybe AOSP specific kernels or warranty.
I had to right now because of a bootloop and a failed custom rom install and none of my backups worked and i couldnt install anything else. It said on clockworkmod that it couldnt read my cache folders. Did i have to go back to 2.1? Because thats what i did. Also thank you guys for answering my questions the captivate is so much more complex that the droid when it comes to custom roms and stuff like that.
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I had to right now because of a bootloop and a failed custom rom install and none of my backups worked and i couldnt install anything else. It said on clockworkmod that it couldnt read my cache folders. Did i have to go back to 2.1? Because thats what i did. Also thank you guys for answering my questions the captivate is so much more complex that the droid when it comes to custom roms and stuff like that.
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No there are Odin packages that Do not include bootloaders, just saying. Same as there is GB packages without bootloaders as well (this goes for KF1 and KH3 to my knowledge). Once you flash GB bootloaders there is no reason to reflash bootloaders except for AOSP specific kernels and Warranty.
Hey folks. I basically just want Gingerbread on my phone, but I'm having issues doing it through Kies as it won't recognize the current firmware when I connect.
I'm not able to flash to JF6 in Odin OneClick without getting an ATT boot screen and nothing more.
Apparently I need to have JF6 in order to get Kies to recognize the phone. I'd like to get this done today (Been two weeks without full function), and I'm thinking I just want to flash to a good rom that runs 2.3.
Is there anything I can do to flash to something other than I896UXJL1-stock or I896UXJI2 TORONTO? These flash well, but are not what I was looking for. Again, I'm going to need something that doesn't require JF6, or another method to get JF6 on without getting stuck at the ATT screen.
Any flash with Odin does not require you to be on a prerequisite firmware, it will flash over whatever you're running.
Go to the Dev section, find a gingerbread firmware with bootloaders included, put phone in download mode and flash.
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Okay, I've been browsing around, trying to find something suitable, but now it would seem that I'm not able to flash anything except for the OneClick method which gives me that ATT screen.
I read somewhere that later editions of the Captivate may not work out well with certain Odin flashes. I think my phone is 1038?
I'm hoping that someone might be good enough to show me how to get this thing to flash to what Samsung sent to Rogers from the factory, or at least to a point that I can successfully flash to 2.3. Right now I'm stuck.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Okay, I'm back to UXJL1, using Odin 1.81, and I also found a OneClick that reportedly switches out the bootloaders for GB bootloaders. I tried it, and it did give me an ATT screen, followed by a normal boot and I was back to having apps like Titanium crashing on boot, which is beyond annoying to figure out.
My biggest issue is that I think I have a decent grasp of what's involved in this process, but I don't know which file is compliant with which. I seem to always use 512 for the partition, but I see some variations in that. I also don't know what to do about the bootloader situation except the one tool I mentioned above.
Basically I could either use what I have, go back to Firefly, or keep trying this GB upgrade. I'd rather keep trying but I also need a phone.
I have a ton of different firmware files at my disposal and can download whatever else I need if mentioned, I also have a few different versions of Odin, and OneClick. I downloaded Odin OneClick 2.xx for rooting purposes and it seemed to work with a flash I did today.
Again, thanks for any help.
As for bootloaders. If the 1 click doesn't work, or you don't know if your phone likes 1 clicks I've attached a pda.tar and a odin in a rar that contains just GB bootloaders. This isn't my work I downloaded from somewhere in xda, I just can't remember where so I can't link. All credit to whoever created it. I can't speak specifics for I896 but random FC's usually means a bad flash. Try downloading again or another odin rom. Sorry I can't be any more help.