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[Q] What are the risks of flashing MY captivate?

I made another thread asking about a problem I was having with Odin not recognizing my captivate, but with no solution there I have decided to try and install froyo a different way. It looks like the froyo guide that nbs11 wrote will work for me a lot easier than odin. I am just about to attempt it, but I have a major concern:
With odin not being able to recognize my phone at all when it is in download mode, what would happen if my phone were to become bricked? Is odin the only way to fix it then? I would not want to brick it and then have a program that will never recognize it...
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I would recommend not flashing froyo until you work out the odin problem. You will be fine the first time you flash most likely but will essentially be stuck with that one rom. Most roms will throw crazy errors and fcs if you don't go back to stock before flashing.
Also if you happen to brick your phone you will be stuck without odin. It might be tempting to flash a rom but there will be no way to go back to stock.
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I was afraid of this... Do you know of any other way to flash back to stock without odin? I spent 6 hours trying to get it to work yesterday with no luck...

Oh wait! I would be using clockwork and RomManager in order to flash the phone to Froyo.... Does that mean when I am on Froyo I could use the same procedure to flash back to an older firmware all without the use of Odin?

That's^ exactly what I did, I used Rom Manager (clockwork, they're one and the same) to flash the recovery, backed up the stock Eclair and flashed Axura Froyo.
I also used Titanium to back up all my apps and restore them after switching to Axura. No Odin at all.
Had this phone short of a month. I'm trying to figure out how to flash Odin now.

gunmetaldroid said:
That's^ exactly what I did, I used Rom Manager (clockwork, they're one and the same) to flash the recovery, backed up the stock Eclair and flashed Axura Froyo.
I also used Titanium to back up all my apps and restore them after switching to Axura. No Odin at all.
Had this phone short of a month. I'm trying to figure out how to flash Odin now.
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So you can confirm that it would be completely possible to flash back to Eclair with just clockwork? If so, it might be worth doing. Well, as long as I don't get bricked... That, im sure, would require odin

totally not worth the risk. figure out ODIN first, or we will be seeing a post in a few weeks from you screaming about bricking your phone.....

Pirateghost said:
totally not worth the risk. figure out ODIN first, or we will be seeing a post in a few weeks from you screaming about bricking your phone.....
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Thats the thing though... I see no way to get odin to work with my phone. I have tried every thing that I know of.
*sigh* guess Ill have to wait for the official froyo update then...

I prettu much figured out how to recover using Odin, but before my question is now that I've rooted and applied a custom firmware, will using Odin now wipe all of my user data, root and rom?
Thanks.

I think i get it now, Odin IS a way to recover the stock firmware, it's not like clockwork where you backup your original and custom firmware and switch between them.
The fact that I was able to flash a custom firmware without bricking my phone sort of negates the need for me to use Odin.
I took that risk and it worked fine. Now for the OP, it's better to find out that you do have that option of reverting back to stock in case you brick in the middle of flashing. Therein comes the problem that Odin doesn't recognize your phone, hence the hesitation to flash.
I guess it's really up to you if you want to do it anyway without Odin...

I see no reason to risk it... I spent too much money on this thing to brick it without a way to fix it
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yentlequible said:
I see no reason to risk it... I spent too much money on this thing to brick it without a way to fix it
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Don't you have warranty on it? well everything that goes flashing is always a risk if your going back to stock im prefer using the "odin stock with 3 button combo", it flashes the sbl.bin first which is the 3 button combo in cases it hangs up somewhere you can always unplug the usb then go to download mode again. In cases there is also a "homemade test jig" that can help you go to download mode. The benifits you get from flashing is a lot you can use your phone full potential. Correct me if im wrong as long as you can start your phone with a display you can always fix it. I would suggest to read all those with quote and theres also "ADB" which can help in some cases. just keep in mind before flashing make sure that the 3 button combo is intact first.

Nope, I have no warranty on this... I have t-mobile but didn't want the vibrant because I would need to pay the extra money for a data plan on it. With the captivate, I bypassed the requirement for the plan when I unlocked it.
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Ok time to re appear in this thread again. I have had a decent amount of flashing experience and want to make sure the right info us being shared.
Once again you can flash to any rom you want a couple of times.however after a few you are not found to be able to do it because what is going on in the phone of more complicated then you see on the phone. Most roms change the kernels and hardware software interaction. This can cause conflict resulting in fcs and excessive battery drain.
With all that being said I would still advise you to jump the bucket as king a you get odin to work. As long as you can figure that out you are golden. Once you have the hand of it you can flash to stock and to a rom in your sleep. I have managed to do it while on the highway.
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A) You didn't install the driver (or the wrong driver)
B) You don't know what Download Mode is
C) Your phone is broken
D) You need to use a different USB port
Those are the ones that come to mind.
Alternatively, you could give Heimdall a try.

MikeyMike01 said:
A) You didn't install the driver (or the wrong driver)
B) You don't know what Download Mode is
C) Your phone is broken
D) You need to use a different USB port
Those are the ones that come to mind.
Alternatively, you could give Heimdall a try.
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A) The drivers should be right, I downloaded them twice
B) I know exactly how to get to download mode.
C) Most likely
D) I Tried on 3 separate computers with different USB
Let me know if you have any other suggestions, I have tried everything.
What is Heimdall? Might be worth a shot...

Only idea i have is to pull your battery sim and sd card for a minut or two then flash odin with only your battery in.
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I bricked my phone with an i9000 firmware. Since I was unlucky enough to have a phone without the 3 button combo, I was screwed.
Now, IF I decide to flash my new phone again, i'll make sure to put together the homemade jig which can put the phone into download mode without the phone needing to be able to do it itself.

crystalhand said:
Only idea i have is to pull your battery sim and sd card for a minut or two then flash odin with only your battery in.
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That is what I have been doing actually... I take everything out and enter download mode with just the battery in the phone
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[Q] Cappy Bricked??? Pls help!!!! unique problem!!!

Ok i know and have seen that there are many experienced users in this forum, so i give you this!!Pls help sum1!!!
I think i bricked my fone, tried to get cwm 3 on it, then while rebooting, it wont reboot. went into download mode with odin (3 button fix) (i have done this 9-10 times before, not a noob to this), selected pit and tar and hit start. odin stuck on factoryfs and fully orange screen on fone. removed battery, fone, usb, odin restart, tried again, yellow screen. again. red screen. now got frustrated. tried normal odin(not the 3 button fix), again yellow screen.took out battery to try again, but fone wont start/go in dl/recvry mode anymore. tried on 2 different comps with xp/win7. no go.
SCREWED??
BTW, i ordered a jig.should arrive by end of week.

It'll be fine after you get your jig.
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same thing happened to me...but i just got it replaced..as there was no way i could wake it up...but try Jig..or just get it replaced...every captivate is under warranty...tell them u were doing official Froyo update and lost electricity or something....

yes will try that and post.
In the meantime, can sum1 pls run me thru the steps to install custom ROM on preinstalled froyo cappy? My prev 1 was stock eclair, i filed 4 insurance and am sure the new 1s gonna b stock froyo. I have heard that there are a no. f probs with stock froyo phones????

Its a semi uncommon problem.I have had the random colored screens before and had to pull battery. Managed to get odin to work after a couple of times
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psycho2097 said:
yes will try that and post.
In the meantime, can sum1 pls run me thru the steps to install custom ROM on preinstalled froyo cappy? My prev 1 was stock eclair, i filed 4 insurance and am sure the new 1s gonna b stock froyo. I have heard that there are a no. f probs with stock froyo phones????
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flash to stock using full Odin(full odin to avoid loosing 3 button combo), flash CWM.Zip....flash any froyo custum rom
or just flash the fix for sign verification (its somewhere in the threads) then you can avoid flashing to stock....just flash CWM and Custom rom

viny2cool said:
flash to stock using full Odin(full odin to avoid loosing 3 button combo), flash CWM.Zip....flash any froyo custum rom
or just flash the fix for sign verification (its somewhere in the threads) then you can avoid flashing to stock....just flash CWM and Custom rom
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YEA, I THOT SO 2... JUZ WANTED 2 VERIFY, WAT ABOUT WEN CHANGING ROMS?do i need to flash to stock every time, or can i just take a backup f froyo stock using cwm?(sorry 4 the caps...)

Most of the custom roms don't require flashing to stock now a days. But if its mentioned in the instructions than I would do it.
But definitely you should disable lagfix and stuff before flashing over new rom.
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viny2cool said:
Most of the custom roms don't require flashing to stock now a days. But if its mentioned in the instructions than I would do it.
But definitely you should disable lagfix and stuff before flashing over new rom.
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no i meant with stock froyo and 3e recvry, should i flash to stock using odin or just backup/restore using cwm? m not familiar using stock froyo on cappy.

psycho2097 said:
no i meant with stock froyo and 3e recvry, should i flash to stock using odin or just backup/restore using cwm? m not familiar using stock froyo on cappy.
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If u flash any zip from stock froyo it gives you sign verification error. So u need to fix that a nd than just flash custom rom as u normally do
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Crash N Burn....Owch!
psycho2097 said:
no i meant with stock froyo and 3e recvry, should i flash to stock using odin or just backup/restore using cwm? m not familiar using stock froyo on cappy.
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Sounds as though your bootloader got hammered.
Yes, as another posted, with 3e recovery you'll get a signing error, but there is a workaround, depending on your device and ROM you're using to have files pass through as if it were on 2e recovery. Another method is if one passes files that are unsigned. (only load if it's from a trusted source)
Is it possible you performed a nandriod backup before this debacle occurred?
If so, try a restore from recovery with your last nandroid backup. This should restore the bootloader and correct partitioning on your disk.
HtH
Peace-

Liv33viL said:
Sounds as though your bootloader got hammered.
Yes, as another posted, with 3e recovery you'll get a signing error, but there is a workaround, depending on your device and ROM you're using to have files pass through as if it were on 2e recovery. Another method is if one passes files that are unsigned. (only load if it's from a trusted source)
Is it possible you performed a nandriod backup before this debacle occurred?
If so, try a restore from recovery with your last nandroid backup. This should restore the bootloader and correct partitioning on your disk.
HtH
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inncidentally i did do a couple of nandroids before "all the **** hit the fan". and i could use it to restore. but how? my fone simply wont turn on, neither go in2 recv/ dl. so how 2 restore???????

all 2.2 have 3e recovery, custom roms built on 2.2 come pre cracked.
here is the 3e recovery fix. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909213
it works on all 2.2 stocks with 3e.
if you are rooted using "one click root 1.7" (NOT ODIN ONE CLICK!!!) you dont need adb commands just root explorer to mount and replace file. or use adb to mount and push file. the instructions in the thread have the 2 methods mixed together.
no offence but ignore Liv33viL on this one

Trusselo said:
no offence but ignore Liv33viL on this one
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Dude, that's just plain wrong. Let each person decide on their own who's advice to take and who's to ignore. It's an open forum and we all have the right to share our knowledge and experience. The focus here should be helping people get the assistance they need, not to diminish someone's credibility based on a personal opinion.
In short, grow up.

Trusselo said:
no offence but ignore Liv33viL on this one
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ok, but then do u mean my bootloader is not damaged? can it be still repaired by using jig? can i restore nandroid?? but how 2 do so since my fone wont turn on at all?

What happens when you do turn it on- nothing? Or does it hang on the boot screen?
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I had the very same problem. Your bootloater is boogered up now. I sent mine to an xda member and he fixed it.
Even with a jig I wasn't able to do anything. My phone would go into d/l mode with it but that was all it would do.
I paid $50 to have mine fixed which in my opinion is well worth it. That doesn't include shipping costs. I had connexion2005 fix it for me. He a great guy and does very fast work. It beats buying a new phone.
Hope this helps.
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All shameless advertising aside, it's worth trying a fix where others give up and pay someone. Through the process of elimination we can determine if you need professional help lol!
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Thanks guys..will try connexion when the jig fails.
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N does anybody know what to do, as my newly arrived cappy has a distinctive yellow tint to the screen. Do I call samsung and ask for a new one? Or is there some method to fix it by software?
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Do I have to go back to stock?

I'm sorry if someone already asked this question but I was not able find an answer. I am running a custom ROM now, do I have to go back to stock before flashing another ROM?

It is usually not necessarily to do it but it a very good idea to return to stock and master clear with the odin-1-click
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No you don't need to go back to stock. Nor is is necessary to master clear. Most if not all the roms on here will do a full wipe of your SD card during the install. Flashing back to stock just adds another chance to mess up your phone. This was advised, several months back but it's not necessary now. This doesn't apply if you want to flash to CM7. They have their own install procedure that is different than anyone elses.

Just to add to what the others said. Make sure u flash a 2.2 based rom over ur curent (if thats what u are.using atm). Also you cant restore system app, it will screw up with ur new rom!
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BWolf56 said:
Just to add to what the others said. Make sure u flash a 2.2 based rom over ur curent (if thats what u are.using atm). Also you cant restore system app, it will screw up with ur new rom!
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The 2.2 stock will not let you flash a rom over it. Go back to 2.1 stock
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crystalhand said:
The 2.2 stock will not let you flash a rom over it. Go back to 2.1 stock
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Not what I meant.
If he flashed, lets say, FireFly (which is 2.2 based) then he can't flash over with, lets say, CM7 (which is 2.3 based). Just simple logic
@ OP - You can look on the ROM's thread to see what it is based on.

Thank you for all your help. I'm using Phoenix Ultimate now and want to try out the other ROM.

It takes like ten minutes to odin back to stock. I do it every time, just feels like a cleaner install. Plus all the devs put that in their instructions. I trust the devs.
If you download the CWM update.zip before you Odin to stock and leave it on your phones internal SD card, you don't have to root or get ROM manager. Place your new ROM on the internal card too. Just Odin to stock, allow to boot, and restart into recovery (3 button combo), install updates (twice) then use CWM to install zip from card (ROM you downloaded).
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quarlow said:
It takes like ten minutes to odin back to stock. I do it every time, just feels like a cleaner install.
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One less time touching Odin is one less time tempting fate. But that's just me. I'm pretty sure every rom dev in here has bricked a phone at least once...

much agreed. less odin. less potential for problems.
roms do a wipe now. doesnt matter what you had on it 2.1 or 2.2
2.3 is the only rom version that has a different partition table.
there is no issue flashing a 2.2 rom over 2.1 or vice versa. how CAN you upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2?? CWM anyone? oh **** right!
the only issue with flashing over 2.2 is the 3e recovery... and thers a fix for that. you dont need to go back to 2.1 to avoid the signature verification error... @crystalhand...

quarlow said:
It takes like ten minutes to odin back to stock. I do it every time, just feels like a cleaner install. Plus all the devs put that in their instructions. I trust the devs.
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Not all devs put it in their op. Some devs say flash first thru clockwork and only use odin when there are problems. Odin could be better used as a recovery tool only, not the first thing you do whenever you want to flash a new rom. Just my opinion.
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Odin could be better used as a recovery tool only, not the first thing you do whenever you want to flash a new rom. Just my opinion.
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EXACTLY as it should be.....

No, odin is potentially more dangerous than any standard rom flash. as has been mentioned, use in case your in some s

I've always flashed back to stock using Odin whenever I flash a new rom. Like someone else on this thread said, it just feels cleaner doing it that way. While I don't doubt you guys when you say it's dangerous, would anyone like to offer a brief explanation as to why that is? And would anyone be willing to guess at what the odds of a permanent brick might be? Are we talking something like 1 in every 10 flashes or more like 1 in 1000?
If it's closer to the first one then we really are playing with fire here but if the odds are more like the second one then I don't consider that much of a risk.

Juanmail15 said:
I've always flashed back to stock using Odin whenever I flash a new rom. Like someone else on this thread said, it just feels cleaner doing it that way. While I don't doubt you guys when you say it's dangerous, would anyone like to offer a brief explanation as to why that is? And would anyone be willing to guess at what the odds of a permanent brick might be? Are we talking something like 1 in every 10 flashes or more like 1 in 1000?
If it's closer to the first one then we really are playing with fire here but if the odds are more like the second one then I don't consider that much of a risk.
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I highly doubt someone is going to give you a "odds" answer. Phones can be finicky and they often do weird things. The less you're "changing" things, the better. Odining back to stock then flashing again to the ROM of choice just adds another chance for something to go wrong. Not just cable falling out or battery falling out, just weird coincidence. When there's absoutely no reason to go back to stock, why take the chance? Just because you're programed to THINK it's cleaner doesn't mean it is. As has been said several times already, most roms do a complete wipe of the sd card so there's really no reason to odin or masterclear.

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I highly doubt someone is going to give you a "odds" answer. Phones can be finicky and they often do weird things. The less you're "changing" things, the better. Odining back to stock then flashing again to the ROM of choice just adds another chance for something to go wrong. Not just cable falling out or battery falling out, just weird coincidence. When there's absoutely no reason to go back to stock, why take the chance? Just because you're programed to THINK it's cleaner doesn't mean it is. As has been said several times already, most roms do a complete wipe of the sd card so there's really no reason to odin or masterclear.
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+1
Odin should only be used as a "Oh S**T I bricked my phone" program. But then again, if you read and know what you're doing than it should never be "needed"

axis01 said:
I highly doubt someone is going to give you a "odds" answer. Phones can be finicky and they often do weird things. The less you're "changing" things, the better. Odining back to stock then flashing again to the ROM of choice just adds another chance for something to go wrong. Not just cable falling out or battery falling out, just weird coincidence. When there's absoutely no reason to go back to stock, why take the chance? Just because you're programed to THINK it's cleaner doesn't mean it is. As has been said several times already, most roms do a complete wipe of the sd card so there's really no reason to odin or masterclear.
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Completely agree just want to clarify 1 thing. The roms don't do a complete wipe of the sdcard. The wipe the /data /cache and /system partitions, leaving the /sdcard completely intact, just like flashing to stock would. Master clear just reformats /sdcard partition and is not really needed as the os doesn't use this to function and including this in a rom would be catastrophic if the zip is in fact on the /sdcard partition you are wiping with it.

The most I do is clear cache, data and disable lagfix.

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If you download the CWM update.zip before you Odin to stock and leave it on your phones internal SD card, you don't have to root or get ROM manager. Place your new ROM on the internal card too. Just Odin to stock, allow to boot, and restart into recovery (3 button combo), install updates (twice) then use CWM to install zip from card (ROM you downloaded).
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So you'd just drop the update.zip on your internal drive, drop the ROM in as well, boot into recovery and flash it that way?

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So you'd just drop the update.zip on your internal drive, drop the ROM in as well, boot into recovery and flash it that way?
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Yup. That's how u do it, if you have no need to root before hand and back up, I'm assuming you've done that if I remember right you are the girl I told to brick her phone yesterday to return, is the replacement on eclair or froyo? Ig it on froyo you will have to get past the 3e recovery that's why I ask.

bricked a phone using odin....what went wrong?

I'm not new to this sort of stuff either. I used odin one time on my phone with no issues what so ever. my wife just had to make a warranty claim on her phone and we just got the replacement, asked her if she wanted me to root and put cognition on and she said sure
Well it had stock 2.2 on it and it wouldn't install clockwork recovery. upon reading that it was the update causing the problem I figured id just use odin to take the phone back to 2.2. I used a brand new charge cable I've only had for 3 weeks and things started fine but eventually the screen went black and odins progress bar stopped moving... 15 mins went by and nothing was happening... so I knew it was messed up and I unplugged it...
And $125 later I have an ins replacement on the way. Understand that I've been doin this for six months and this is the first time I've ever had a problem... so what happened? major hit to my confidence here!
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Cor-master said:
I'm not new to this sort of stuff either. I used odin one time on my phone with no issues what so ever. my wife just had to make a warranty claim on her phone and we just got the replacement, asked her if she wanted me to root and put cognition on and she said sure
Well it had stock 2.2 on it and it wouldn't install clockwork recovery. upon reading that it was the update causing the problem I figured id just use odin to take the phone back to 2.2. I used a brand new charge cable I've only had for 3 weeks and things started fine but eventually the screen went black and odins progress bar stopped moving... 15 mins went by and nothing was happening... so I knew it was messed up and I unplugged it...
And $125 later I have an ins replacement on the way. Understand that I've been doin this for six months and this is the first time I've ever had a problem... so what happened? major hit to my confidence here!
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Your prob is due to the new phones that come with 2.2 don't always work with one click Odin. Should use the recovery work around for it instead

should of known....ugh... wish I would of known this yesterday I would of been $125 richer and minus one angry wife. What about my phone now? its runing cognition 4.4.2. In light of what's happened I'm thinking about going back to stock myself and staying there... Will odin work on my phone or is there another way?
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you could use the Odin one click for JH6, that'll take you back to eclair and you can use the Kies mini to update to 2.2 KB1
or...
you could use full odin to flash the 2.3.3 basic theres a great TUT for it. let me grab some links...
the TUT; http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&highlight=tut
the odin to Eclair: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989&highlight=odin+one+click
if your going to choose the gingerbread path make sure you READ a lot.
And I wouldn't lose to much confidence over it. If you look at some of the "big shots" they usually have hard-bricked a captivate.

Thanks for the reply... yeah my confidence is bruised but its hard to turn back now. Just def don't ever wanna find myself in this situation ever again. I am interested in going to gingerbread, in fact very interested. I've started to look into it I'm gonna read more before I make the big jump.
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Thanks for the reply... yeah my confidence is bruised but its hard to turn back now. Just def don't ever wanna find myself in this situation ever again. I am interested in going to gingerbread, in fact very interested. I've started to look into it I'm gonna read more before I make the big jump.
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Good to know, just follow the tutorial to a T and you'll be all set
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Different versions of the captivate brick when you use the 1 click Odin. Use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143

Wow same thing happened to me aswell, it scares you for future flashes.
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Next time, (hopefully there won't be a next time for you) you should first hit up samsung warranty first. If you have att, try them before samsung. I hard bricked my phone, sent it to samsung, they fixed it, no charge and sent it back. It took about 12 days, but it was FREE. Just an fyi.
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Jeepin' Rock Climber said:
Different versions of the captivate brick when you use the 1 click Odin. Use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
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What happens if your running a gingerbread rom with updated bootloaders and you decide that you want to go back to froyo and elair. Is your only option odin one click to restore the bootloaders?, what if your captivate is one of those unlucky ones that like to brick with odin one click? Would you be stuck on gingerbread?

You can use 2.2 roms with gb bootloaders, they are backwards compatible. Just make sure there are no bootloaders in the rom you flash.
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Oh I see thanks.
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Wait so if i flashed gingerbread bootloaders and my phone is not compatible with odin one click, is there no way to get back onto froyo/eclair bootloaders? I understand that you can still flash froyo roms without bootloaders but you can always make a mistake and flash froyo bootladers bricking your phone.

You can use the regular JH6 flash back just not the one with the three button mod, this is because the three button mod replaces 1 out of 2 bootloaders and they won't match but the JH6 only replaces both (or none not sure) and they do match
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What's the difference between jf6 and jh6?
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Check stuff from studacris on this forum. He's very knowledgeable and helpful. I saw somewhere where he wrote about using odin one click to flash stock with any build. You'll get a bootloop, or a soft brick, and then put in download and flash the jf6 secure with odin. That way you have boots and stock. Don't quote me on any of this. I'm going off memory and might have some of this wrong. Don't want anyone mad at me for the wrong info. Just read into his posts, before trying any of this. You'll definitely learn a lot.
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This was what I was taking about.
studacris said:
sounds like you have a later build phone that doesnt like odin one click...thats all your gonna get out of it is a bootloop
get into download mode and use this package:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
if you go to gingerbread and want to revert back to stock bootloaders you will have to use one click, even though you will end up in a bootloop and then use the package i posted to get it up and running completly sotck.
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[Q] Need to go back to stock

Hey guys I need to send my phone back for warranty replacement and I am afraid to use Odin one click, because I know it bricked a friends phone recently beyond even JIG repair. His was an 11.02 or something and mine is a 10.07.
All I have flashed is DG's Cognition if that helps.
What should I do to go back to factory stock, will oneclick kill mine like his?
I cant afford to brick this one so I just need some confirmation, thanks guys.

Odin back to stock is the preferred method. While there is risk of brick, it generally doesn't happen that often. I have used it countless times.
But Odin will bring you back to stock and wipe any evidence from having a custom ROM.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SBSMALFJ
*Also, you could always say you were trying to update via kies and it stopped working (if anything went wrong) They won't ever know and it'll just get flashed stock firmware once they get ahold of it anyway.

I believe you can flash back to stock using OdinOneClick. But just to be sure you can flash this package instead
--> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
That package flashes everything but the two bootloaders and param.lfs. Meaning if anything goes wrong you still can use the combos or a jig to get back into download mode .
Just to double check you use:
Vol up, Vol down & power key to get into recovery mode?
&
Vol up, Vol down & usb cable to get into download mode?

It doesn't matter at all if you brick it. You're sending it in for a warranty replacement already. If odin one click bricks it tell them some bs about kies doing it.

studacris said:
It doesn't matter at all if you brick it. You're sending it in for a warranty replacement already. If odin one click bricks it tell them some bs about kies doing it.
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10 char
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Another thread for a question easily answered by doing a search first.

Miami_Son said:
Another thread for a question easily answered by doing a search first.
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Is it really necessary to post a useless post, with no information?
You really think I didn't search these insanely complicated and deep forums?
A friend of mine just ended up with a hard brick after using odinoneclick.
Something about a later build phone. But nobody seems to know much about this issue.
So needless to say I would like to be a bit cautious now.

brannutz said:
Is it really necessary to post a useless post, with no information?
You really think I didn't search these insanely complicated and deep forums?
A friend of mine just ended up with a hard brick after using odinoneclick.
Something about a later build phone. But nobody seems to know much about this issue.
So needless to say I would like to be a bit cautious now.
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About as necessary as you starting a new thread for a common issue instead of posting to an existing related thread. And the problem with later build phones (1008 and up) is also well documented in here. Be cautious all you want, but respect the forum by not starting redundant threads.

brannutz said:
Hey guys I need to send my phone back for warranty replacement and I am afraid to use Odin one click, because I know it bricked a friends phone recently beyond even JIG repair. His was an 11.02 or something and mine is a 10.07.
All I have flashed is DG's Cognition if that helps.
What should I do to go back to factory stock, will oneclick kill mine like his?
I cant afford to brick this one so I just need some confirmation, thanks guys.
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Mine is a 10. 07 and I have flashed to stock with one click plenty of times
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brannutz said:
Hey guys I need to send my phone back for warranty replacement and I am afraid to use Odin one click, because I know it bricked a friends phone recently beyond even JIG repair. His was an 11.02 or something and mine is a 10.07.
All I have flashed is DG's Cognition if that helps.
What should I do to go back to factory stock, will oneclick kill mine like his?
I cant afford to brick this one so I just need some confirmation, thanks guys.
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Im trying to get back to stock from GB. Mine is 10.06, OdinOneClick (with 2 bootloaders) wont work, odin3 works but I cant find a stock rom with those 2 bootloaders.
I could tell you to use odin3, but I cant link you a stock rom with 2 bootloader.

xisque said:
Im trying to get back to stock from GB. Mine is 10.06, OdinOneClick (with 2 bootloaders) wont work, odin3 works but I cant find a stock rom with those 2 bootloaders.
I could tell you to use odin3, but I cant link you a stock rom with 2 bootloader.
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Have you tried the one click from designgears thread it is in development... If you can that is your best bet... You might want to try that
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leezrd said:
Have you tried the one click from designgears thread it is in development... If you can that is your best bet... You might want to try that
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I tried this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989

xisque said:
I tried this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
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And still nothing?
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is there a way to go back to stock compleately?
I used odin and it brings it back to stock software, but what about the data on the phones internal memory all that stuff is still there. Like pictures, music, titanium backup files, etc.
Can the internal memory be formated?

Coreym said:
And still nothing?
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OneClickOdin doesnt work with my phone as I posted before.

usSiR said:
is there a way to go back to stock compleately?
I used odin and it brings it back to stock software, but what about the data on the phones internal memory all that stuff is still there. Like pictures, music, titanium backup files, etc.
Can the internal memory be formated?
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Yes, search for master clear.

usSiR said:
is there a way to go back to stock compleately?
I used odin and it brings it back to stock software, but what about the data on the phones internal memory all that stuff is still there. Like pictures, music, titanium backup files, etc.
Can the internal memory be formated?
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Or dial *2767*3855# were you dial numbers (dialer) because master clear with odin lags and hang up sometimes
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Coreym said:
And still nothing?
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rwaarrrrrrrrr!!!
I got a new computer and new cable and now odin 1 click is working good!

Odin and Windows 7
Just an FYI for all Windows 7 user about Odin3 (oneclick or otherwise) in general. Use Windows XP service pack 2 compatibly mode to make this run without getting locked up as often.