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Nook Color a android tablet? Yes.... but..

There are a couple serious flaws that I have yet to see completely addressed, and I think people get a little carried away when they argue about these against some of the higher priced tablets like the galaxy, archos and streak7, and ipads.
There is market support, but its not full. Depending on whether I am using 2.1 or 2.2 I have different apps available. Ive tried switching between the two fingerprints out there, but regardless, its an issue.
Media Support.
Flash is passable on the 2.2 builds, and skyfire can do a decent job on the 2.1 builds, but still not where I personally would want my tablet to be.
A much bigger hindrance is the horrible media playback. Things I can view exceptionally well on my droid incredible I can hardly view at all on my nook color.
When running Froyo I cant access my Tversity Media Server at all while using Vplayer, and even on eclair its not the quality I would prefer to watch at.
Oddly enough, my Froyo 2.2 1.1 OC Nook Color plays worse then the Rooted Nook on 2.1. Speakers are awful as well.
I am not complaining, just trying to keep things in perspective.
Is this a great tablet? Yes.
Is this a great media tablet? No, however its passable if you dont mind re-encoding much of your media to LQ formats.
Is this as fully functional as people like to make it out atm? No. Though my fingers are crossed.

I've yet to find any media that I can view on my Incredible, but not on my Nook. The speakers suck, but that's a hardware issue, not a software one. No ammount of rooting is going to fix that.

A. Nonymous said:
I've yet to find any media that I can view on my Incredible, but not on my Nook. The speakers suck, but that's a hardware issue, not a software one. No ammount of rooting is going to fix that.
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I'm waiting for something like these to set my Nook in to help with the speaker problem...
http://blog.laptopmag.com/powerless-iphone-speaker-round-up

tangomonky said:
Is this a great media tablet? No, however its passable if you dont mind re-encoding much of your media to LQ formats.
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this is the reason why i tested the archos 101 & 70 and the galaxy tab. the nc is a far better general use tablet and the best "bang for your buck", but the archos is a better multimedia tablet - i kept the 101 since having 2 7" tablets didn't make much sense... then again having an ipad, nc and a101 doesn't make much sense either, lol.
the galaxy tab was between the nc and a70 in multimedia performance. better screen, but not as good with video & music playback. the archos was better in both departments imo. but the screen on the galaxy tab was the best of the 4. but at $550 i could get both the nc and the a101 and be happy.

Isn't the NC a eBook reader 1st? With that said, it's not suppose to do all of that right out of the box!!! With the from this community, the NC will be able (someday) to do all of those things. I bought my NC because of it's great potential and price!!!

I really don't understand what your getting at with this post OP..

I think the OP forgot the NC is an ebook reader

A. Nonymous said:
I've yet to find any media that I can view on my Incredible, but not on my Nook. The speakers suck, but that's a hardware issue, not a software one. No ammount of rooting is going to fix that.
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no but a speaker upgrade would be sweet
hopefully someone who likes taking these things apart can come up with a guide.

DevalB said:
I think the OP forgot the NC is an ebook reader
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And the hacks are being done from people on their free time. It's the best ebook reader/semi-tablet you can get for the price.

just got done ripping a dvd using the handbrake settings in another thread.
must say it looks pretty damn good on the NC.
very smooth and clear.... not up to blu ray but VERY NICE dvd quality video.
true hi-def video playback is going to cost you some more $$ if thats what you need.

hoping the NC gets hardware decoding for avi files soon. Other than that I'm really happy with it

Once we get DSP support in Froyo/Honeycomb, we'll have awesome multimedia support.

I got one last week and today after it auto updated itself to 1.1 I decided to auto-nooter it. The process went smooth, I installed the ADW launcher, live wallpapers and some apps and after playing with it for a while I'm very pleased with the purchase. I have an Android phone (Samsung Galaxy) and this tablet is a nice extension of the already familiar OS. I have not tried hi res video on it yet, but internet and games and utility apps are perfectly fine on it. It's a great little device and the integrated book reader part is a nice bonus.

I have to agree - NC is amazing
I paid $249 for an e-book reader and have gotten so much more thanks to the folks on this forum. As an e-book reader, I've been very pleased with my NC. However, after changing it over to a tablet-ish device, it's become a constant companion!
Yes, I have to move my movie collection over to MP4 for viewing. I bought a 32GB card for that. So far, all my movies play great. MP3s work just fine as well. And most of the Android apps I want work well. And surprisingly, both my Slacker Radio apps (with caching) and my Audible e-book accounts work perfectly.
I was not looking for a media device when I bought the Nook Color. I wanted an e-book reader that I could hack and play with. Well, I do that and more!
So here's the choice. For under $300, you can buy a media device (like one of the Archos or an IPod Touch) that might read e-books or you can buy an e-book reader that, with a little work and a touch of bravery, can be a 90% media device as well.

tangomonky said:
There are a couple serious flaws that I have yet to see completely addressed, and I think people get a little carried away when they argue about these against some of the higher priced tablets like the galaxy, archos and streak7, and ipads.
There is market support, but its not full. Depending on whether I am using 2.1 or 2.2 I have different apps available. Ive tried switching between the two fingerprints out there, but regardless, its an issue.
Media Support.
Flash is passable on the 2.2 builds, and skyfire can do a decent job on the 2.1 builds, but still not where I personally would want my tablet to be.
A much bigger hindrance is the horrible media playback. Things I can view exceptionally well on my droid incredible I can hardly view at all on my nook color.
When running Froyo I cant access my Tversity Media Server at all while using Vplayer, and even on eclair its not the quality I would prefer to watch at.
Oddly enough, my Froyo 2.2 1.1 OC Nook Color plays worse then the Rooted Nook on 2.1. Speakers are awful as well.
I am not complaining, just trying to keep things in perspective.
Is this a great tablet? Yes.
Is this a great media tablet? No, however its passable if you dont mind re-encoding much of your media to LQ formats.
Is this as fully functional as people like to make it out atm? No. Though my fingers are crossed.
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Well fix.it.it.then

lafester said:
just got done ripping a dvd using the handbrake settings in another thread.
must say it looks pretty damn good on the NC.
very smooth and clear.... not up to blu ray but VERY NICE dvd quality video.
true hi-def video playback is going to cost you some more $$ if thats what you need.
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I think that the issue is that the nook color restricts the video resolution to less than the resolution of the screen for no reason at all. Also, it requires encoding video to watch on it when it could play most videos fine without encoding if not for self imposed software restrictions.

I understood when I pulled the trigger on the NC that this was developed as an eBook reader. With that in mind, rooting it and making it an Android device opens up a lot more avenues of functionality. Yes the Android App market is no where near where the Apple iTunes app store is, but Apple had a 3 year head start with that. App developers are going to bring their apps to the Android market to capture/provide for the increased market share, it will just take some time.
Keep in mind...these Android tablets are quite new to the market, it is still gathering up steam. iPad has had a year head start, and 3+ year of app store head start.
With that said, yes, the Nook Color doesn't excel because the software that was designed for it isn't even on par to what Apple offers. NC is not that great of an av device, even paired up with some mid-range Shure noise isolation ear buds. But give it time, apps will mature, the market is there. If you don't like what the Nook Color can be made to do for $250+ and a little time to research and execute, then go grab a glorified Android Tablet that will cost $500+ and most likely locked down so you can't customize it for even better functionality.

follower46 said:
I'm waiting for something like these to set my Nook in to help with the speaker problem...
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I use the Wowee One portable speaker on my (newly purchased) Nook Color, and it works incredibly well. Check it out on Amazon or Youtube.

Was given my NC, had it "customized" 2 days later,
Have done customized two more for family members, one works in English, the other Korean and my wife is making hints about where hers is now....
B&N has listed the nc as the best selling device they have ever sold and these forums and others like it are why.
Thank you everyone who has worked so hard on this across all the dev sites.

For video playback I use rockplayer, plays almost all formats very well. This thing is great for $250, awesome screen, plays games pretty well, does video great for me and is much lighter than my ipad. I think things will only go up from here, and here is pretty nice right now.

Thinking about buying a color nook to root for my wife

Hi, my wife wants to get a tablet and she has 3 requirements. She wants to watch movies and TV shows that are in avi, able to browse flash websites, and view shows on abc.com/hulu/etc.
I read about the xoom bugs and the price is a little outrageous. Not really interested in the Samsung tab. The nook color rooted would be a great value but can it do those things?
Thanks. Calicene.
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2 out of 3?
HI
i am using a nook color. with phiremod 5.1 flashed onto the eemc CUSTOM ROM
1. if you are using rockplayer to watch the avi files for tv shows you download it won't be a problem.
2. flash 10.2 the latest version works.
3. me personally i have not been able to get hulu to work reliably. there is a flashplayer hack out there for the viewsonic gtab. i installed it on my nook but it didnt have audio. there is supposed to be a paid app called playon.tv ? but it wasnt reliable for me on trial either..
i purchased my nook color for 200 bucks on the ebay deal, with tax and shipping 216. so i am very happy with it. I use it for digital photo menu at my restaurant. screen is very very clear. it plays games well. also the battery life is good. i think nook color from the store + tax is like 266 dollars.
i also just purchased the viewsonic gtab for 285 shipped from woot.com, its also 307 from tigerdirect (look on the gtab general forums in xda) havent received it yet.
also, i could only get slingbox to work on a nookiefroyo build running off the sd card... if you wanted to have another tv option.
the hardware is very nice for 250 bucks.

Thanks for the input. What about abc.com and nbc.com for stream viewing shows? She visits those sites more than hulu anyways. Also, do you like the viewsonic gtab or nook color better?

I just tried both abc and nbc.com. neither would play on mine. I'm running flashed nookie froyo with flash 10.2 through the dolphin broswer. Nbc saaid not compattible with my device and abc wanted latest version of flash 10.1. Not sure why 10.2 wouldn't work.

nbc and abc both playing on cm7, bluetooth build. albeit - they are both choppy. hulu says not a supported platform... do the gtab and galaxy play this stuff smoothly?
i am not overclocked, and wonder if that would help.

NOOK for Android updated for tablets

Looks like we not have a real use for the stock Nook Reader app much longer.
According to this the new tablet app can be used to read magazines.
http://gizmodo.com/5801689/nook-for-android-updated-for-tablets
I haven't had a chance to check this out yet on CM7 as I'm at work and my NC is at home. Anyone try it yet? Does it even see the NC running CM7 as a tablet and give us the right version?

Ive been using it since last night and it is freaking awesome. Do yourself a favor and dl ASAP.

I downloaded it and so far it's a little clunky. At first it didn't see any of my books, but then they showed up. Then I ordered the free trial of Maxim, but I don't see the magazine anywhere. Maybe it just takes a little getting used to but so far it's bugging me.

I couldn't find anything in the press release on gizmodo (but I scanned pretty quickly)... will it play read-to-me children's books?

My Analog subscription magazine now shows up on my C7 Nook App! Woohoo.
Time to re-subscribe!

Hextall said:
I couldn't find anything in the press release on gizmodo (but I scanned pretty quickly)... will it play read-to-me children's books?
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Nope those are still Nook Color only.
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Sweet.
Does it have the word lookup feature? Having a dictionary at my fingertips was awesome with the stock reader.

Is there a way to side load ebooks to the nook app?

For me the Nook Reader is very sluggish in the menus & I can only se my B&N downloaded books & mags. Nothing shows in My files & I have sideloaded several books. Quite a few FC, so I don't know what to think. I like the page turn animation a lot. Great feedback that the page was turned. MAybe I need to try to reinstall??
kev

book title and page number at top of page annoying, anyone know how can to get back to 2.5?

TheValk said:
Is there a way to side load ebooks to the nook app?
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http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com...g-an-Epub-to-the-Android-Nook-app/td-p/611255

Can't find the app in market. Is there something I have to do/tweak first?
Using CM7.02 on NC...
Update: Market Enabler did the trick. Had to "be" in the US. Can't buy anything though, seems you have to have an US-creditcard as well. Workaround for this?

Nook VS Asus Honeycomb Tablet

I currently have an ASUS Transformer Tablet running Honeycomb 3.2. My wife is interested in the Nook for reading, magazines, etc.
I think there is a Nook app for android as well. Can anyone help me decide if it's worth it to buy her the Nook, or not?
What does the nook have or not have that a full honeycomb tablet has?
What does the Nook app for android have/not have that the Nook may have?
Pro's/Con's for each way?
Not looking to Root the nook either to put full android on it, unless its easy and pretty much harmless.
Thanks for the help all!

p.s., how to i add my signature? i cant find it anywhere!

I have had both (returned the tf101 due to a hw bug - not a fault of the transformers design, just a normal qa bug). The current nooo application now has everything. Even magazines, which I remember being absent when I triedthe nook android app a while ago.
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pros: $250.00 cons: $350.00
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dandunn98 said:
I currently have an ASUS Transformer Tablet running Honeycomb 3.2. My wife is interested in the Nook for reading, magazines, etc.
I think there is a Nook app for android as well. Can anyone help me decide if it's worth it to buy her the Nook, or not?
What does the nook have or not have that a full honeycomb tablet has?
What does the Nook app for android have/not have that the Nook may have?
Pro's/Con's for each way?
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The stock nook reader can do the children's books (lots of animation and "read to me"), the Android app can't. Otherwise, for grownups, they're pretty much equivalent.
The Nook doesn't have a phone, cell network, camera, microphone, video out, or bluetooth with reasonable range. These are some of the reasons that the price is so good.
When you run CM7, it does have host-mode USB (albeit a little hacky at the moment).
Not looking to Root the nook either to put full android on it, unless its easy and pretty much harmless.
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Booting CM7 off the SD is absolutely harmless, and very easy the third or fourth time you do it...

If the goal is to end up with a device that is good for reading books the Nook Color is a great solution. You might want to root it, very easy, and leave it running the stock OS. That will open up the NC to running apps and getting to the standard Market, but leaves the unit with the reader centric interface. I have mine this way and prefer that to a generic Android experience such as CM7. I usually prefer the bigger screen of the Transformer to the NC for general tasks like web browsing.

so what in lieu of the missing hardware (camera, gps, etc), what software limitations is on the stock nook color? Can you install apps from android market?

dandunn98 said:
p.s., how to i add my signature? i cant find it anywhere!
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couldn't find the signature under private messages

dandunn98 said:
so what in lieu of the missing hardware (camera, gps, etc), what software limitations is on the stock nook color? Can you install apps from android market?
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Stock is crap IMO. Its only good if your just going to be reading books. Cm7 makes this thing the best tablet for your money. It is crazy easy to install and you get the full android tablet experience for less than half the price of the big boys. Yes it is missing a camera and GPS but why would you ever need that on a tablet?
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And there is no market access on stock unless you root it.
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I have both and each has its place in my tablet world. I like the portability of the Nook and its gorgeous screen. The Transformer screen is equally impressive looking. Would highly recommend CM7 for Nook as others have suggested. When I need to use an app like Google Goggles, or other apps that use camera/video capabilities, the Transformer is the obvious choice and is quite capable. I have not yet had success with USB camera or headset with Nook but still have hope thanks to the devs continuing work. I have used GPS with both (using bluetooth GPS on the Nook). I use the Transformer as my "cell phone" now with my 3G mifi device (using the GrooVeIP app). I believe your household would enjoy having both.

With the nook app you have access to a lot less magazines because of liscense agreements. On the stock nook you have access to all magazine subscriptions like GQ and Vanity Fair.
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soo much good info so far. i'll have to investigate this CM7. don't know much about it at all

I also have both Transformer and Nook.
They each have their place. I almost always have the rooted nook with me. Keep in mind that you can find refurbs for $180 to $200.
Also, when you root to a sd card, you don't change the underlying software in the main memory of the nook. If you have a problem with your nook, just pull the sd card out and reboot it to stock.
Once rooted, you can add the software reader from Kindle and Sony. This means you can comparative shop to find the book you want. When it is stock, you can only buy from BN or borrow from your library.

advocate2 said:
I also have both Transformer and Nook.
They each have their place. I almost always have the rooted nook with me. Keep in mind that you can find refurbs for $180 to $200.
Also, when you root to a sd card, you don't change the underlying software in the main memory of the nook. If you have a problem with your nook, just pull the sd card out and reboot it to stock.
Once rooted, you can add the software reader from Kindle and Sony. This means you can comparative shop to find the book you want.
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This all sounds great, and i like the SD card root you guys are talking about. I haven't rooted an android device before so it's new to me, and i know theres TONS of posts regarding it as well. I have jailbroken iphones/ipod touches so i know the concept of it all.
With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?

dandunn98 said:
With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
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Please don't go there.
Rodney

rhester72 said:
Please don't go there.
Rodney
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understood. I'm all for giving credit to people for apps, and all. I just enjoy testing them before buying.

With the cost of most android programs being low, there should never be a reason to look at pirated software. The software development we have today is a testiment to the hard work of many talented developers who would not continue if their work was not appreciated.
The Nook color , like most any tablet/reader device, should be considered for purchase based on filling a specific need. For reading, I have not found another device that provides anything close to the experience of the nook. For less than $250.00, you have a color screen that rivals tablets costing 2-3 times the nook. The fact that the nook boots from an sd card allows you to have a full android experience while retaining the stock nook reader.
For those wishing to expand the stock nook, cm7 provides a rich android experience with multimedia and the (almost) entire android market for apps. The market is now "device aware" and will only allow download of apps compatable with the device.
As for USB use, I am using a logitech bluetooth keyboard to type this message and use USB host mode to connect my digital camera to the nook to transfer photos directly for better viewing.
If you require all the functions of a full tablet (camera, GPS, ect:.) The nook might not be for you but if it is a secondary device that you can use to enrich your life with it's many capabilities, you will not find a better value on the market.
I'll get off my soapbox now and let you get on with that nook purchase.
Sent from my Wonderful Nook Color using Tapatalk

dandunn98 said:
With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
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if you mean to "sideload" apps then yes

A few weeks ago Staples had a coupon for $100 off all tables, including the Asus Transformer. This week Target is giving a $100 gift card to anyone who purchases an Acer Iconia (effectively making the price $299). For just $50 more than the cost of a new Nook Color, it's a no-brainer to get the Honeycomb tablet.
Both of the deals mentioned above seem indicative of price drops in the Android tablet market. Anyone who missed out on the above deals, just wait, and you'll see more like them.

Mass Effect: Infiltrator out for Android

Originally came out for iOS a month or two ago, came out for Android today.
Showing as incompatible for my Xoom running Eos 2.0.0, but compatible for my Nook Tablet running CM9 so I bought it and am going to try and side load.
Is it showing up as compatible for anyone on their Xoom on a different rom?
Edit: Sideloading seems to have worked, downloading the hundreds of mb worth of stuff now. So if you have a device that is compatible, you should be okay. Note, that sideloading without purchasing likely will not work, as I'm pretty sure it still checks to see if you purchased.
Edit2: Download is complete, game is running and looks great.

I noticed a little lag when you get the mission complete menus that pop up, but game play is really fantastic.
So I just checked the Play Store website, it's actually showing up as compatible with my Xoom now. Anyone else seeing it that way?

showing up incompatible here aswell running cm9 nightlies

flukeSG2 said:
I noticed a little lag when you get the mission complete menus that pop up, but game play is really fantastic.
So I just checked the Play Store website, it's actually showing up as compatible with my Xoom now. Anyone else seeing it that way?
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What xoom model do you have/rom are you on?
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Cubanluke88 said:
What xoom model do you have/rom are you on?
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Wifi only Xoom, stock rom no root. Its even showing up in the Play Store on my Xoom now.

Sideloaded on my Droid Xyboard 10.1, works really well without any problems!
Sent from my Motorola Droid Xyboard 10.1 with Verizon 4G LTE

Yeah there are 2 versions on the play store. The $5.01 version is incompatible, the $4.99 version is.

konuoha said:
Yeah there are 2 versions on the play store. The $5.01 version is incompatible, the $4.99 version is.
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The $5.01 one is for the Netherlands, as indicated by the developer Electronic Arts Nederlands BV.

Mass Effect!
Looks pretty good for the trailer but I hope the high end aspect of the game compares from my pc gameplay to my xoom tablet. Installing and downloading 348 MB of data then ill have it up and running
http://i.imgur.com/sq9Xl.jpg running on my Xoom